Login HereRachel Maddow just told Chris Matthews that TPM is blaming him as the personification of all the sexist crap Hillary Clinton has to take from the media (works for us), and the reason women came back to Hillary tonight after going for Obama in Iowa (exit polls say 47% for Clinton, 34% Obama).
Tweety was gobsmacked.
I think Atrios gets the final word:
Chris Matthews: LEAVE JOHN MCCAIN ALOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
62% reporting (per MSNBC):
Clinton 64743 (39%)
Obama 60322 (36%)
Edwards 27578 (17%)
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You’re gonna make him cry
Wahoo!!!
I did like that!!
Jane!
Good for Rachel!
I didn’t see it. Was Tweety more gobsmacked tonight than he was on TDS/book tour?
Jane, you must be exhausted too. Thanks for keeping up with all of this for us.
Tweety deserves to be gobsmacked, the self-important little jerk. I wonder how Tip O’Neill ever put up with his sorry ass.
And just before Maddow said this, Buchanan said the NH voters just gave a rejection to the entire MSM, pollsters, pundits, etc.
Tweety was gobsmacked.
Now if Katrina V. will just rip JoeScar a new one before the night is over, I’ll be happy, no matter who wins the primary…
Is Tweety really falling for McCain I haven’t been watching him much lately.
latest numbers from AP feed … only change Concord
Nashua - 4/9 precincts, 49% Clinton, 29% Obama
Manchester - 9/12 precincts reporting, 45%Clinton, 31% Obama
Concord - 10/10 precints, 40% Obama, 36% Clinton
Portsmouth - 5/5, 42% Obama, 35% Clinton
Hanover - 0 results
Keene - 5/6, 41% Obama, 30% Clinton
AP feed to Concord Monitor, Western towns breaking toward Obama strong, hard to tell if they have enough votes to balance out Clinton wins in East … college towns still no results
I wonder if Tweety got a chubby when Hillary kissed him on the cheek and then dismissed him.
I didn’t see it. Was Tweety more gobsmacked tonight than he was on TDS/book tour?
No. That was a very special and singular moment.
Hee, hee, hee!!!
Russert…It was either
Hillary Clinton’s plea
Bill Clinton’s anger
Bleat, bleat, baa, baa
Seismic shift in the last 24 hours? Is that possible?
That’s from Timmeh.
he-he…
I’m guessing “yes”.
The most repeated word today: Women
I don’t think that Timmeh could care less about the Dem’s. His guy McCain won tonight, so from here on out it’s all gravy.
I just love the fact that Tweety was trying so damn hard to have the opposite effect.
Dick Cheney Controls Tim Russert!
Heh,
msnbc calls clinton
AP just called it for Hillary
Tweetie just called it for Hillary
NH called by msnbc for Clinton.
women without children voted for Hil…hmmmm.
hard to say if that’s without bearing children, or without children at home??? anyone know?
MSNBC calling it for Clinton.
msnbc calls it for clinton
She made a fool of him. As well she should. He has done everything in his power to ruin her. As has Arianna.
Larry Johnson makes a good point, which is that none of the reporting on the polls mentioned that 17% of NH voters who were presumed to vote in the Dem primary were undecided. So, none of them had any business calling it for Obama…
I luv Fred Thompson’s 1% of the vote.
Maddow belted him that was funny.
They are going to shelve Crying game. Work up MLK quote. Go over the data and candidates from the last 4 days.
You must of heard him snoring behind the curtain…
hehe….
KO trying to help Tweets: the entire industry was wrong about hil
‘08 is going to be “the economy stupid” redux. “The Big Shit Pile” hasn’t hit the fan yet..When the voters see that economic disaster is going to happen..Obama is going to loose support and edwards should do better..He is not going to quit.
Time for Obama to make a very gracious speech. We’re counting on you Obama!
And Tweety covers everyone in spit.
It was the dismissing and not the Kiss
Gee, did you see the guy giving a speech, where is he anyway?…
You know, things just turned around for Clinton. Bad time to drag out the scumbags.
ROFL!
For as long as this is a Clinton/Obama dogfight, Edwards has a lot of influence on the Democratic issues discussion (since neither can afford to lose votes to him), and I like that. Also, as many have noted, he’s had a steady national rise; the longer he’s relevant, the better his chances. I like that, too.
Tweety frantically laying off blame on getting it all wrong on “pollsters”. Lucky for him that *he* wasn’t saying that Obama was gonna run away with it.
Ahem.
Hell, I’m not even for Hillary, but I’m glad she’s winning. Hopefully, this will take the air out of Obamamania and it keeps Edwards in, much more so than if it were an Obama steamroll.
AP Calls it for Clinton
I agree
If there is a recession, pretty words wont work.
Can we watch something other than chanting crowds?
Yah, bye.
And he doesn’t owe the DLC a darn thing. Wouldn’t that be special !
Was it something he ate.
Also:
Question: What is the definition of a perfect vacuum?
Answer: The space between Chris Matthews’ ears.
Obama was smart not to take the media bait and not “accept the leader mantle” just yet. He said that yesterday I think
the national media is too much… really. NH and Iowa are different states, with different people, who have different concerns. There doesn’t need to be a “seismic shift” in 24 hours for their two primaries to yield different results. Really.
CNN is refusing to follow the lemmings and is not calling it–worth noting that it is still a close race.
And I’m guessing the money spigots now get turned on again.
Oh, but the kiss made it all the more better.
Interesting, since this is what Bev Harris at BlackBoxVoting wrote earlier today:
Apparently 80% of NH uses the exact same model of machine used in Florida in 2000. The same kind where it has been proven had 16,000 votes subtracted from Gore late in the eve. Gore then won the hand recount of that same area. Just saying…
Nah thats putty between them thar ears :)
I don’t think we should accept the results of this election without challenging the machines. The people voted on paper ballots, but they were counted on optical scanning machines and the people who count them have lots of opportunities to manipulate them. There are many security problems with these machines that have not been fixed. Exit polls are not lining up with the results.
http://blackboxvoting.org/
Just get home, & KNX news radio called it for Hillary on the way into the garage. “Huge Dem women turnout in New Hampshire.” Ohhh, that has a nice ring to it…
I wonder if Arianna is having gas pains? Maybe she will stop using unflattering pictures of Hillary?..not likely.
Yeah, me too. I think, for me, it’s the feeling that more voters will have a say instead of everyone following suit or something.
Congratulations to Clinton on a big win.
It is going to make a great week of spin, and polls. I guess if they have similar policy votes Hillary does have more exerience.
Gonna have to mull on this for a while, but for sure NH is a great primary state. Always up in the air, subject to fits both wise & dumb.
Also want to see the money numbers as she had a TON of signs. But I thought much more Obama people canvasing.
I can’t imagine any kind congrats-to-McCain speech from Fred or Rudy. They didn’t give a crap about NH.
It’s an election, people. I guess we should all be glad……
Heh, my wife just got back from an errand, and, I told her Hill was just declared the victor, and her first words were; “It must’ve been the tears…” I about died… *g*
Gravinich has now sunk below 2%. I’m beginning to lose hope…
Hilary needs Tweety to pick on her more if she wants to win. Tweety now has a choice if he attacks Hilary he helps her or Tweety could be quiet for once and that would hurt Hilary. Bwahahaha!
Tweety trying to weasel out by saying Clinton’s team also believed the Titanic was going down.
Shorter Tweety: “I didn’t start the rumor…maybe, but…but…but they helped spread it.”
Yahoo ‘political dashboard’ is saying that Clinton gets 8 delegates, and Obama gets 8. So did they TIE??
Absolutely right, Jane. Matthews and the MSM bash Hillary, and her supporters forget all about her penchant for kissing rightwing ass, and turn out in droves to vote for her. The MSM has you guys by the cerebellum. They hammer on her, and the issues don’t mean a damn thing to you.
Again, if she weren’t a woman, and if her name were not Clinton, that peckerhead-vote-chasing, FoxNews-and-Rupert-Murdoch frenching vote of hers to make flagburning a federal crime, BY ITSELF, would have had you guys working like navvies to defeat her. Instead, we’re getting a preview-in-reverse of what the general will be like, if we’re politically suicidal enough to nominate her.
If we nominate Clinton, the huge issues with which we have a wonderful chance to run the bastards back under the bridge won’t mean diddly, for the simple reason that the republicans will be delightedly make HER the issue.
And it will play, and play large, and we will be sitting around the day after the election pissing and moaning about “how could this have happened?”
And if it does, it will be because a lot of people awarded the democratic nomination as a consolation bandaid because conservatives purely hate her, to a candidate whose positions, in the highest and craziest of ironies, come very close to theirs on many issues, most notably, Iraq.
There isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between Clinton’s “plan” for Iraq, and George Bush’s. And that means that she can’t make it an issue, and that means that we won’t win this election if we nominate her.
So, boys and girls, you pays your money and you takes your chances, but just take a good, cold-eyed look at the number that you’re putting your chips on, because this year, EVERYTHING is riding on it.
Women breaking 47% for Clinton in NH. WNYC (NPR) is also saying that Hillary garnered more young voters in NH than in Iowa.
Da Comeback Kid II!!!!! I was sayin’ all day that this race was not over and I was assuming BO would win pretty big. So what happens now? All that money that wasn’t gonna come Clinton’s way is gonna start pourin’ in?
MSM starts beating the shit outta BO? Republicans wack-off at te prospect of facing Hilary in the general? I dunno and I wish the msm would just admit they don’t know either. It’s a fun season -watching the R’s is entertaining. Gotta get some coffee on to see if Rudy beats Paul. That’ll go down to the wire. And what is Fred pullin? 2%? What a disgrace to have him in that debate. the people who talked him into runnin’hamed of themselves.
But she will be forced to compete in SC and Nevada
If Edwards drops out at some point, do those votes go to Clinton or Obama? Mine would go to Obama if Edwards was not on the ballot.
I’m glad that this gives Edwards a chance.
This is too freaking funny. I have a chihuahua and an American Eskimo. I howled about how happy I am that Hillary is ahead, and they howl with me! My ears hurt!
True on econ. You know they might sell and argument that Bill was great on Econ and as econ tanks you don’t want Edwards with his —- (whatever), you want the proven change of Clinton surplus. Don’t know how dangerous this would be.
In any case shows that each state can make up its own mind. Please get Edwards some states folks! After all NH went for Bush in 2000.
Which Edwards supporters are ticked that he gave the same speech? He needs to inspire the voters. He gets a national stage and gives the same effing speech. Doesn’t he know we were listening last time?
maybe Lou Dobbs is still hoping for a miracle turnaround for Hunter… maybe he thinks Dems will write him in. Seriously, why is Hunter still in this race? Not that our county wants him back or anything, but whatever…
Okay, whomever wins New Hampshire get what how many electorial votes?…
Four?…
Whoop-de-doo….
Great - Clinton is superstitious just like McCain. What is wrong with people thinking magic nickles are going to do something—- dumb.
Look. If Reid can be elected in Nevada so can Hill.
I guess Senator Clinton put the brakes on Obamomentum…
This from Blackboxvoting:
UPDATE: 4 pm EST Jan 8: The first order of business tonight needs to be to compare results in the hand counted paper ballot locations vs. the Silvestro-programmed Diebold machine locations. Here’s a link to feed for AP results when they come in:
http://www.thetelegraph.com/ne.....shire.html
Comma delimited database: NH municipalities hand count vs use Diebold machines: http://www.bbvdocs.org/NH/stat.....ems-NH.txt
How would Tweety react if Hill suddenly turned on the waterworks during one of his Interviews…? Ain’t no man-scent there… *g*
Terry Mc- there are contrasts in people records. Is it true that Clinton and Obama only have 4 small voting differences (or is this utter falseness)?
And that is as it should be.
They really don’t need ‘em do they. The old scumbags ya mean, right? She’s fully staffed with scumbags now as it is.
Obama may have held off claiming frontrunner status because his internal polls probably showed that it was too close to call. I agree it was a smart move.
give it a break bubba
*raising hand* He’s been saying the same thing for weeks now. (I like it, but still) — clearly those lines aren’t working, mix things up a bit when you have the national stage! Come on John!
Does that save Penn’s job…? Hmmm…?
Perfect that could win it for Hilary.
Hey now, tanbark!
no one has forgotten the bush ass kissing!
I think we’re celebrating the fact that the media got some comeuppance tonight. yay.
Agree. Interesting exit polls over at Politico show that Hillary has what might be called the “Democratic base”: non-college grads, income under $50,000, etc. Obama gets the young people, the intellectuals, and those with high incomes. What’s interesting is that Hillary’s base is also Edwards’ base, with one exception: John cleans up among voters who think the candidate “cares about me”; lowest rating (really low) for “cares about me” is Obama.
Well said!
Alright. Hope NH is not choosing another Bush or Sunnunu. I will give her one more look, but think I am going to see the same. Anyway back to hard-knocks.
Today for some reason the old white idiot teevee guys are driving me to distraction. Most of the time I pretend they are women in drag.
Matthews was one of the first to trumpet Hillary’s inevitability. He then passes on without missing a beat to forecast her premature demise. There is simply no there there.
Beerfart on SC and NV: They don’t mean shit. But HRC’s gotta compete? Hey, bring ‘em on.
Thanks KO. that’s why people get excited: a woman won a primary election. In Iowa, more history with a black winning. History.
It’ll be some kind of history, too, if a white male dem wins in a crooked GOP voting machine too.
I’m no HRC fan, but just for the sake of the sharp stick in the MSM’s eye I’m kinda glad she took NH.
Yeah, that HuffPo Hillary coverage has been bizarre. It was Drudge-like.
Yep! The winner in these primaries are essentially psychological…not actual. It’s the bigger Primary States like New York and California that may be critical.
But I do have a question for the experts out there. Does a State like Texas have a lot of Democratic delegates? Are the numbers based upon State population (i.e. Congressional Reps) or is it based on the size of the actual party or turn-out.
Also, assuming that Obama has a smidgen more delegates assigned from the primaries and caucuses…could the Convention still go to Clinton because she may have more “assigned delegates”?
Seriously, can anyone remember so many polls being so far off? Literally every poll I saw the last two days had Obama up 7%-14%, with the one described as always skewed to Clinton (Marist was it?) even having Obama up for the first time yesterday.
So if she wins by 4%, every single poll was off by at least 5%?
I can’t remember such a shift.
That’s exactly right!
I prefer Edwards, but I’m glad to see HRC kick some MSM ass.
Tweety’s reaction would be priceless, too… *g*
This is the first time I heard the speech. I think its better than anything anybody else has said. Of course McCains Speech tonight has lowered the bar.
Interesting…
Could you imagine a woman laughing like Chris Matthews?…
Most Edwards votes will go to Obama. I am sure they will do a poll on it soon.
Like everyone using U2.
Also I think KO is wrong again - Obama will say something else other than he came out #2.
Hillary giving the 10 minute warning.
Edwards is double Huckabee tonight is the number 3 position.
What is missing in those numbers are the 17% undecided. Looks like a good number went for Clinton.
Matthews is a buffoon. I hate to think he could have led to Hillary’s victory. Obama about to speak.
punaise said it even better at 102 ROFL.
Sexist Crap From The Media:
Hillary Answers No Questions from Media or People:
Sexist.
HRC Votes for Patriot Act Both Times:
Yeah Sexist. Oh that’s very Sexist.
Obama’s got a great poker face.
Open your eyes they are all in drag Tweety, Tucker, Tony Blankly, Bill O’Reily, Ann Coulter (a man in drag)
If as some are speculating, the women broke more heavily than expected for Hillary, it could be because of how the whole “tears” episode played out, both in the media and between HRC and the other candidates. That would have been too close to the election to have been reflected in the polls.
Yeah KO and MSNBC - maybe talk issues and not who is going to win it (psst. its in the future so at least spend some time).
Obama up.
Again, if she weren’t a woman, and if her name were not Clinton, that peckerhead-vote-chasing, FoxNews-and-Rupert-Murdoch frenching vote of hers to make flagburning a federal crime, BY ITSELF, would have had you guys working like navvies to defeat her. Instead, we’re getting a preview-in-reverse of what the general will be like, if we’re politically suicidal enough to nominate her.
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Tanbark this is good stuff. Are you British? I had to look up navvy.
OOOH! Hillary got that ever-important “Spinster Vote”!
“Spinsters” the new “Soccer Mom”!
Maybe they were actually casting black magic spells, too!
Well once Iowa, NH, SC, and NV have voted the majority of delegates will have been chosen, right? Small states like California, Illinois, and New York won’t make much of a difference.
Nice crowd response for Obama…
Wahoo!…