Blue Texan!

Blue Texan!

Blue Texan!

Neck and neck, but still just missing in a photo finish. Congrats Biodun, and I’ll just have to try harder next time.

Okay. Blue Texan!

Yep…Every so once in a while, I gotta flex those muscles…*G*

I forgot to say Thanks!

Well, I knew I wasn’t first, and sometimes conformity is best.

Dartmouth students cut class. But I think many of them didn’t want to miss out on lunch at that nifty Thai restaurant down the street. Or maybe they just went out for a run down the hill and across the bridge into Norwich, VT.

I realize Dartmouth is a pretty conservative campus, but c’mon — history is being made here.

We may not be talking politics here but a sense of entitlement.

I can’t say I blame them for ducking out. I don’t wanna hear Obama’s (or Hill’s) empty rhetoric. Edwards – I would stay for. At least Edwards offers some tangible ideas.

Oh come on – These students are the going to grow up to be the real people who run the world, not some figurehead like Obama or Clinton. They need to go to class to learn how to do it! *snark*

Well you know what they say about Dartmouth girls…

Actually, I don’t. Care to share?

Totally OT but I enjoyed fdl’s news headline “Musharraf vows to catch Bhutto’s killers”. No doubt OJ will volunteer to help out.

That’s the “least” he could do given how much he blamed the victim on “60 Minutes” the other night.

Hi Blue Texan. They should come teach at the HS where I work. TONS of kids cut class for no good reason. Imagine how many would skip for this!

In all fairness, I wouldn’t cut class for a stump speech, no matter who’s giving it.

How dare they! How dare students go to class, when they can sit and listen to stump speeches. The nerve.

Actually, I don’t have a clue, but I figured if I left some suggestive . . . someone would come up with something.

Um, I went to Dartmouth, and remarkably few students cut class — of course this was a long time ago, but the scholarly ambitions of the school seems to have gotten more intense from what I can tell. The profs are interesting and good: so why should you cut class? You’re actually taught by profs, not TAs: they’re good, they’re interesting, they’re knowledgeable … Plus you’re paying a hell of a lot to be there. Yes, history is being made: but Bill Clinton will go on and on long past the time he’s lost his audience.

And not everyone at Dartmouth is entitled: its got a broad spectrum of students from across the socio-economic spectrum. Myself, work-study, loans, and some scholarships to get through: my folks are by no means rich.

But would you have cut class at 19 or 20?

They can’t cut class.

A Heritage Foundation internship hangs in the balance.

Well that should be easy…according to Mushareff she killed herself

Hi BT.

They know there’s lots of sales puffery involved when someone’s selling a product. So some probably just stay until they can more or less reasonably size the candidate up.

Speaking with a republican associate, I used the term sense of entitlement. I said that republicans have a sense of entitlement – that its ok to rape the treasury. Crony capitalists feel entitled by nature of their connections. Soon, my republican associate starting sprinkling his talking points with sense of entitlement, ie: Welfare recipients have a sense of entitlement. Then, I said that it was cheaper to have welfare than open ended occupation at $3 bil per week…

For your general amusement:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/….._time.html

I still can’t get over anyone taking Chuck seriously in any way, shape, or form.

Mush added, “If someone committed a crime, they will no longer be in my administration.”

Dartmouth/Heritage Intern to Shell Shocked and Hungry Iraqi:

This freedom stuff is pretty cool, huh?

Here’s that Thai restaurant I was talking about in my 9.

Sounds a lot some one we know and despise??

LOL. When I read that headline I thought: golf, anyone?

But would you have cut class at 19 or 20?

Nope. Neither would most of my classmates back then.

Mushy should go on teevee and look under the couches like MockingBush did in search of WMD.

And not everyone at Dartmouth is entitled: its got a broad spectrum of students from across the socio-economic spectrum. Myself, work-study, loans, and some scholarships to get through: my folks are by no means rich.

A broad spectrum you say. So a cross section of Dartmouth students would have the same demographics as a state school? If not, then maybe your spectrum is not as broad or as deep as you think it is.

Clinton, Bill, is a rock star because of what happened in the WH pantry, not because people like listening to his lyrics. Monica made him!

The exact quote, as a matter of fact.

http://www.boston.com/news/nat…..dismissal/

Hi Tex, I know I would have and did, but that was way before tuition dollars and the competition to get in went through the roof…I’d applaud the fact these kids went to class and went to a stump speech. sounds like they have their priorities straight to me.

Disgusting

Meanwhile, AP continues the drumbeat of Hillary’s obit:

Filed at 1:36 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — If New Hampshire 16 years ago threw a lifeline to Bill Clinton’s struggling candidacy, the state’s primary Tuesday could put Hillary Rodham Clinton’s presidential bid on life support.

It’s a stunning turn of events for the former first lady, who has seen once formidable candidacy all but swamped by Barack Obama and his powerful message of change.

With polls showing New Hampshire poised to deliver another victory to Obama after his win in Iowa last week, Clinton — who has made electability a central theme of her candidacy — may have to soldier on amid mounting evidence that Democratic voters want to elect someone else instead.

But, but, who learns how to clear brush there? Oh sorry, that’s at Andover and Harvard. My bad.

If Clinton is a rock star, then Jimmy Carter is a rock star, albeit a bit out of date – he is a rock star none the less. No Monica for Jimmy?

Just posted at tpm, via Huffpost:

Hillary forces thinking of pulling out of NC and NV, focusing on Feb 5th and forming anti-Obama 527

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

And follow their link to Huffpost article.

Seems like either a huge mistake for the party or a way of disengaging from the election?

I’ve spent considerable time at Dartmouth. It’s a lily-white campus. And the students definitely feel and act entitled. I do have endearing friends there however–faculty. BTW, Dinesh de Souza went there. And that tells you a LOT.

OT: Anyone know when the polls close in NH?

8pm

OT:

My news & blog feed got a facelift this morning. Peanut Butter is my techie and she is amazing!

Currently has mostly blog posts on the front page, but the content updates about once every 2 or 3 hours.

Clinton-Bloomberg ‘08!

As snarky as I was earlier, I never cut class either. I was one of those weird students who learned from being in class and reading or doing the assignments. It never worked for me to cram. I either knew it or I didn’t.

No, AP has decided not to wait for the results tonight:

New Hampshire famously made Bill Clinton the ”Comeback Kid” in 1992, giving him a strong second-place finish after his candidacy was nearly derailed by allegations of womanizing and efforts to evade the draft. He went on to win the Democratic nomination and the first of two terms as president that year.

The state has offered no such solace to his wife this time.

She received just polite applause and occasional boos at a state party fundraiser Friday night, while Obama was swamped by enthusiastic supporters. And while the Illinois senator was greeted with enormous, raucous audiences throughout the state, Clinton was left to help move chairs around at one campaign event to allow in enough people to make it appear respectably crowded.

(Same link as my 39.)

As snarky as I was earlier, I never cut class either. I was one of those weird students who learned from being in class and reading or doing the assignments. It never worked for me to cram. I either knew it or I didn’t.

OT:

My news & blog feed got a facelift this morning. Peanut Butter is my techie and she is amazing!

Currently has mostly blog posts on the front page, but the content updates about once every 2 or 3 hours.

You forgot Yale and skull and bones.

Betsy, what did we do to deserve the double postings?

I re-posted when the first one hit a database error. You?

Toobz are freakin’out!

Clinton-Bloomberg ‘08!

Too New York-centric. Although Hillary would probably like that. A lot.

hey, it’s bullshit in both cases. I’d walk on it, too.

seriously…if either were talking about reality–you know, as in “reality-based”?–I’d be paying rapt attention. but fluff is fluff, left or right.

c’mon, Edwards…

Smgumby January 8th, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Well you know what they say about Dartmouth girls…

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yeah, don’t play lacrosse with them ………

Clinton sings: Cry me a River

Bloomberg hears: Buy me a River!

Looks like Big Dawg’s been neutered.

WOOF!

Toobz are freakin’out!

Freaked out yesterday as well. It’s becoming a daily occurrence at FDL. (But we still love ya, Jane.)

Man what is going on?? I got double posted as well.
I would be nice to get some answers to all the problems the the site has been experiencing.
BT could you ask the back room boys to maybe host a thread and let us know? Of course not today, we can limp along for now but it would be nice!
Inquiring minds want to know!

And he might cry tonight–in sympathy:

Bill Clinton, who has campaigned doggedly throughout New Hampshire for his wife, complained bitterly Monday that his wife had been unfairly treated while Obama had been given a free pass.

”The idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months is a little tough to take,” the former president said at a campaign forum at Dartmouth College. ”Just because of the sanitizing coverage that’s in the media doesn’t mean the facts aren’t out there.”

(Same link as my 39.)

Enormous turnout – running out of ballots:

http://dailykos.com/story/2008…..396/432864

Ooooo…the times are indeed a-changin’

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/005035.php

Could we be getting rid of another odious republican operative? Bye-bye Mary Landrieu?

More and Better Dems on the way!

Same. I just left you a comment over at your place on the Chisum thing.

Re: toobz acting up:

Jamie and/or Rick probably working on it. And where is that darn edit function? Is it gone forever? Too much bandwidth might be causing problems. Needs tweaking for a while.

could you ask the back room boys to maybe host a thread

Perhaps you missed the ironing post earlier.

Nahant, when we have tube issues it means our message is getting out to the massages. So don’t fret so. P.S. Do you still talk like you are from Nahant or did you shake the accent when you moved west?

Bill Clinton, who has campaigned doggedly throughout New Hampshire

A Tom Swiftism. They really are carrying this Big Dawg analogy to extremes, aren’t they?

Yeah, Biodun, I miss that edit thing, too. I meant masses not massages @69.

Yes I am on the west coast so my day starts a little than the east coast and today I wanted to keep up with the voting and didn’t read the early threads.

the chimp is live. its so painful to listen to him. what a stupid fuck.

Smgumby January 8th, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Well you know what they say about Dartmouth girls…

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yeah, don’t play lacrosse with them ………

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I thought that was Duke?

where the men are men and so are the women

Good news on the turn out. Bodes well for the future.

Can’t speak for the here and now as I graduated 20 yrs ago. But given that the state schools have 5 times as many students as Dartmouth, they will always win demographically, as well they should.

But the state schools aren’t in session now, and Dartmouth is — which is really why candidates are going there. Any youth at all will do, however “entitled” they’re perceived to be.

I now work at The University of Chicago: and the undergraduates seem more entitled to me than we did at Dartmouth back in the day. They’re rude on sidewalks, for instance: they need to go first ALWAYS. But perhaps thats me getting old :)

9:00 a.m., dude!

This is likely the last day this term where the temps will be above liquid nitrogen, so I’m sure they’re enjoying the outdoors.

Can’t speak for all the kids, but my daughter goes there and she and her pals are all Richardson supporters, so unlikely to be at the Obama and Clinton functions. And anybody who thinks that college-age kids will get out of bed for something that starts at 9 a.m. doesn’t know much about kids.

I vehemently disagree with the perception of Dartmouth students as entitled. I certainly don’t understand how leaving to go to class makes Dartmouth students entitled. Classes are in session and students are choosing to attend. If professors wanted to cancel class, they could. But if they haven’t, it is certainly not inappropriate for students to choose to go to class!

Moreover, Dartmouth is NOT a conservative school. Dartmouth is middle-of-the-road, if not liberal. I graduated a little under 3 years ago, and in my experience, there is a very vocal, but very small conservative minority (a la the Dartmouth Review). There is a large body of liberal activists. The rest of the campus is apathetic (the isolation of the campus can lead to what is commonly called the “Dartmouth bubble”).

So, to sum up, Dartmouth may not be Vassar but it’s not the Heritage Foundation, either. And it is unfair and absurd to accuse Dartmouth students of being entitled for the high crime of going to class.

Coul;d it be that the students have already seen Obama or Bill Clinton several times already? Maybe not at Dartmouth but elsewhere? Or have heard the stump speeches on TV or in some other format? “History is being made” but maybe they’ve already had a mouthful of that history and some realize that they have to do some important class time.

When I was in Berkeley in the late 60’s and early ’70’s there was a lot of “history being made” but I still found hat I had to cut out of demos and go to class on occasion.