Wow, like clockwork Mr. Cheney. Just as the President prepares for a Mideast tour to line up support for the attack on Iran…
Pentagon says Iranian ships harassed by Iran.
Who couldn’t see THAT coming? Apparently “hormuz” is the Arabic word for “Gulf of Tonkin.”

Blue Texan!

Howdy.

In other campaign news, I hear from key insiders that Rudy will unveil his new economic plan, “Longer Work Hours and No Vacations for Anyone,” within the week.

Yes! If people are unhappy with the economy and stagnant wages, it must be because they’re lazy! If they worked hard, they’d be multimillionaires like me! /rudy *g*

Rudy says Jihadists are perverted. Strange word choice coming from Rudy. Would it help if Rudy put on a dress?

hey biodun
mondale to hart

The phrase was associated with the 1984 U.S. presidential election. During primaries in the spring of 1984, when the commercial was at its height of popularity, Democratic candidate and former Vice President Walter Mondale ridiculed the candidacy of his rival, Senator Gary Hart, by using the phrase during a March 11, 1984 televised debate prior to the New York and Pennsylvania primaries.

Hart had moved his candidacy from dark horse to the lead over Mondale based on his repeated use of the phrase “new ideas”. When Hart once again used the slogan in the debate, Mondale leaned forward and said, “When I hear your new ideas, I’m reminded of that ad, ‘Where’s the beef?’” The line got a great response from the audience. Subsequently, the two campaigns continually clashed using the two dueling slogans (Hart presented his book, published later, to the press between two slices of bun).

Rudy’s so-called 29th-inning strategy has failed. Instead of winning in Florida he should consider retiring down there. But I guess people will understand if he goes back to his two firms in New York to make more shitloads of money.

Rudy plans the obvious bizarro world strategy of riding the wave of voter discontent by telling everyone that things are fine.

-G

Thanks. I’ll do some research on that…

9/11!
9/11!

Dueling Banjos – Rudy and Shrub. Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?

I swear, if him and the Duchess of WTC-7 get in, this whole country is a bunch of idiots.

Gives new meaning to “transparency in government”

Didn’t a Pakistani radical recently get caught doing a Dame Rudy move by trying to sneak out of the besieged mosque wearing a burka?

-G

Poor Rudy! Bless his little moffia heart. No one seems to understand him. Somewhere deep inside is a good guy. If you just keep looking the Repugs will give him the attention he deserves.

First, they must get rid of that pesky Ron Paul. Who invited him to the party, anyway?

Ron Paul song goes number one in UK on YouTube

http://www.prweb.com/releases/…..605721.htm

Actually, I had said “it didn’t work for Mondale”

Well, whether he said it to Reagan or Hart, it didn’t work. He won the nomination but lost the general in a big way…*G*

Rudy, unfortunately, looks like the devil. Hard package to sell.

“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”

Well I like this Modern English song but it’s worth ruining it to poke fun at Rudy’s campaign:

I’ll stop the world and melt with you
(I’ll stop the world)
You’ve seen the difference and it’s getting better all the time
(Let’s stop the world)
There’s nothing you and I won’t do
(Let’s stop the world)
I’ll stop the world and melt with you

Rudy, unfortunately, looks like is the devil. Hard package to sell.

Fixed it for ya.

I love that phrase “Duchess of WTC-7″! We haven’t seen Vuitton’s best customer on the campaign trail of late, have we?

She better watch herself or Ghouliani will be casting about for her replacement. If he thinks the divorce with Donna Hanover was nasty…..

OK. I just saw that at wiki. You win… Now we (or I) can get back on topic…*g* Apologies, Blue Texan.

Well, whether he said it to Reagan or Hart, it didn’t work. He won the nomination but lost the general in a big way…*G*

good thing your are laughing…the best part was Hart wrote a book on his stuff and when the campaign handed out the book they put it in buns….but it was too late.

“There are some people who believe that this country is declining,” he went on. “There are some people who believe that we’re going in the wrong direction. Well, you know something? They’re wrong!”

This from the guy that thinks his campaign is on track when it went off the rails weeks ago.

Rudy, unfortunately, looks like the devil. Hard package to sell.

Shhh, RW, don’t tell him!

You go ahead on Rudy, that’s the way to win elections! Just keep up the good work!

While a big majority thinks we are on the wrong track.
I think there is very little agreement on what the right track would be

In the dem primary, the candidates have to WIN. It’s about to turn into a two person race- and thirty second place finishes add up to losing.

In the gooper primary, it’s still possible that they come down to the convention with a three or four person battle going on- in which case it’s only important to be one of the three or four- so one can go after a smaller piece of the gooper electorate and stay alive.

ccmask January 7th, 2008 at 10:40 am
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I swear, if him and the Duchess of WTC-7 get in, this whole country is a bunch of idiots.
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Rudy is toast. So is Hillary. They are so last election cycle.

Heh. I’m right, you’re wrong…pretty much sums up Ghouliani, whether you’re talkin’ his wives, his kids, the City, where to put his command center….now, he’s telling all of America that we’re wrong and he’s right. What a jerk.

Rudy is empty headed and not the brightest bulb on the tree. This doesn’t mean he doesn’t have basic education skills. It means he lacks curiosity, critical thinking, attention span, ability to communicate, and can’t go beyond his need for immediate satisfaction. Someone needs to send him a box of chocolates. He’ll drop out for instant gratification.

There’s nothing wrong with Rudy’s math, 9 plus eleven doesn’t add up to seventy…….

Would be pretty interesting to see the snake handlers, the libertarians, and the “reward the rich” branches of the gooper party tear one another apart openly in a convention floor battle. I’d pay for a ticket to that one!

I can’t do links anymore since the new website, but…..

Italian-Americans Rip Rudy as an UNCLE TOMASO,” blared the Boston Herald’s cover, citing a single activist who doesn’t like the way Giuliani jokes about mobsters.

Quiz. Which candidate is Rove handling?????

Here are the numbers in NH:

John McCain, 35 percent

Mitt Romney, 31 percent

Mike Huckabee, 13 percent

Ron Paul, 8 percent

Rudy Giuliani, 5 percent

OK, so Rudy made maybe only two or three appearrances there. He’ll come in last in Michigan, last in Nevada, and last in SC. Then onto to Florida for his swan song.

The heart of the argument for gooperism is that if you reward the poor- there’s no incentive to be rich- but if you reward the rich- then everyone will work their ass off to become one of the annointed.

I’ll bet they are getting them butterfly ballots ready as we speak.

Hillary could have embraced the candidacy of Ned Lamont. She chose Lieberman.

Hillary could have easily thrown the base of the party a bone or two. She chose Carville and the DLC.

She had her chance.

she better watch herself or Ghouliani will be casting about for her replacement. If he thinks the divorce with Donna Hanover was nasty…..

I can’t wait until Ghouliani’s wife figures out that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different results! What was she thinking?!! Oh, half of ill gotten gain is better than nothing? A little blackmail among friends?

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LS January 7th, 2008 at 10:59 am
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Quiz. Which candidate is Rove handling?????

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Duncan Hunter?

That stripper that ran for governor in California?

Duncan Hunter- now there’s a guy who gets very little respect..

Rove busy writing his memoirs—”Hiding in the Bush”

Lou Dobbs?

This from the guy that thinks his campaign is on track when it went off the rails weeks ago

Actually, his candidacy was stillborn from the get go. The rest of America simply had to know what New Yorkers already knew. Then he unraveled gradually, a steady but sure hemorraging as he bled all over America, helped along by stiletto jabs here and there, all the while yelling “9-11!” “9-11!” as if that alone would save him from the mob…

Quiz. Which candidate is Rove handling?????

Ron Paul. He’s handling him with a one two shoot ‘um down knock out punch. “Hit him again boys.”

He’s looking to capture the people who like men who look perpetually pissed off vote.

Dunky ambushed the MSNBC gaggle-fest this morning and walked onto their set.

-G

In the dem primary, the candidates have to WIN. It’s about to turn into a two person race- and thirty second place finishes add up to losing.

For the most part, that’s true. But if the presumed nominee (the guy or gal in first place) should falter for some reason, then the person in second place steps up. Hopefully. That’s why I’m hoping for at least a second place for Edwards.

Mary Caray! that’s the stripper Karl is working for!

oooh ! stop the presses! Bush went all the way to Chicago to speak to the American People about the ECONOMY! (on c-psan now)

Dunkin’s pullin 1% of the vote in NH.

Plans to double that in South Carolina where they can spot an idiot from a distance.

absolutely right and same for mukasey, both out of the same law firm.

Clusterfuck could just as well stay in Washington to give his crappy little speeches- but he LOVES ta get on the big plane an go bye bye.

Seriously?!

She’s not only a stripper, but a film star, too. If ya know what I mean…nudge nudge, wink wink.

Somethin bout the water in South Carolina makes lots of people say “Hey- there’s a real idiot over there- let’s all go vote fer him”!

They picked Clusterfuck out of the crowd as their kinda guy.

What kinda barbeque they got in South Carolina anyway?

Watch yer Googlin’ searches for Mary Carey…..Could land you in hot water.

-G

Huckabee has his “Things would be great if I’m the dictator” moment:

Huckabee:If they’re not going to vote for me … let the air out of his tires. Shovel your snow into his driveway,” he joked. “Don’t let this person do damage to this country while you’re trying to do a good thing.”

-G

The best was Freddy T (I was in Die Hard… (homer) Die Hard II… ohhh):

People should realize that all SS and Medical was in trouble and that they need to sacrifice more for the war and so we could support the military…

Nice call Fred.

OT:
What happens with all this medical stuff when people retire? That is why people can’t retire they can’t afford their medical (esp. not after their property taxes now cost more than their original mortagage by far). This means no fluidity in the jobs market, and all Corps, Medical, etc want this to continue to keep wages down and to keep experienced people employeed (not have to re-train, or in the case of engineers start to actually teach people from grade school all the way to graduation in order to have a big enough crop).

“let the air out of his tires”

kinda funny actually.

Mondale is a complete bad memory. Remember his acceptance speech at the DNC where he promised to raise taxes, uh duh. That advice having been provided by Dick Leone. Mondale was like the last of the last with all the genes long expired. But I surely admire his sponsor Hubery Humphrey.

Just dropping by here for a sec, but you wouldn’t believe what just happened on CNN. They were showing us the stories they are working on and one of them was Bush speaking live about the economy. “Are we going live? Oh ok, we’ll just follow that for you, on to other news.” Talk about an irrelevant president!

It actually was funny, I was standing 10 feet from him when he said it.

-G

Not without his Hog Cuisine. “I’ll give you two hamburgers tomorrow, for one hamburger today”

Mondale- the nightmare that recurs to dems every election season- “Lord- don’t let him/her be another Mondale”

Mondale might as well have said I’ll date your daughters and drop a turd in your punchbowl too.

Dumbest thing ever.

-G

How bad are these numbers going to be as the econ proceeds…ouch.

Mondale- Kamikazee Kandidate

I heard a greenpeace boat also yelled at an oil tanker with a megaphone. It was scary there for a minute, then they ran over the greenpeace rubber raft.

Never nominate a guy named “Fritz”.

That’s what we call Breaking News around here.

Really? He said let the air out of your neighbors’ tires if they were voting for someone else? Shovel your snow into the neighbors’ driveway?

That won’t go down well with Hampshirites, will it?

Rudy and them all are in a win-win unless things are cleaned up. If he does not get Prez or a position then he is a Corp Lobby/Think Tank/Speakers circut.

To boot he can keep his 3rd wife and have affairs as he travels the country preaching to the well Oiled machine. Oh, and he will get an extra 5 million for a book.

Just remember that Mondale did in fact tell the truth. Cuz St Ronnie of Ray-gunz did raise taxes.

Of course, although the truth might set one free, it does not get one elected to the presidency.

Mondale-Ferraro! Two big-time losers… They didn’t stand a chance with Reagan-Bush (the father)…*g*

Thanks by the way to the link to Bush’s speech on the economy.

He is using it to push for free trade agreements, keep the tax cuts for the rich, and back repeal of the estate tax. On oil prices, he says, there are no quick fixes. IOW he is going to do nothing about it. No new ideas just the same old recycled hucksterism, what some wise person once called voodoo economics. I am so not surprised.

puravida January 7th, 2008 at 11:20 am
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In response to fahrender @ 49
Seriously?!

She’s not only a stripper, but a film star, too. If ya know what I mean…nudge nudge, wink wink.
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there’s somethin’ about her, and Mariah Carey i would vote for. Karl’s just in it for the money …….

He was joking…..He carried it a bit too far, but he was obviously joking. Only one employee at the place seemed a bit taken aback by his joshing.

Me, I thought it was funny, but in poor taste.

-G

For me the right track would be a living wage proposal, single payer health care and a war tax. I think Americans would find it patriotic to pay off this debt early.

A change in policy in Iraq. I do think we owe them a lot of money in damages (Pottery Barn) and should just write a check and get out.

Hugh good luck on your radio program tonight!

Now Mama’s crying:

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. – Hillary Rodham Clinton’s eyes welled up and her voice broke repeatedly Monday as she talked with voters in a restaurant about her campaign for the presidency.

The former first lady was making a last-minute pitch for votes as she spoke on the eve of the state’s primary, with polls showing her trailing Barack Obama.

Asked by a sympathetic voter how she keeps going in the grueling campaign, she replied, “It’s not easy. It’s not easy.”

So it ’s come to this. Crying for votes?

Froomkin is up with Bush’s messiah complex. After dismissing his legacy, he can now talk about nothing else. Some of what Bush has to say about himself:

I can predict that the historians will say that George W. Bush recognized the threats of the 21st century, clearly defined them, and had great faith in the capacity of liberty to transform hopelessness to hope, and laid the foundation for peace by making some awfully difficult decisions

When he needed to be tough, he acted strong, and when he needed to have vision he understood the power of freedom to be transformative

Estate Tax
re-labeled …
Death Tax
now re-labeled …
Paris Hilton Tax

(dont matter that papi Hilton got pissed and took the money away because Paris gave all the guests crabs)

Good plan Bush, do nothing and try to get another trillion for 200 families in the country.

Then there’s this:

“Some of us put ourselves out there and do this,” she said, her voice breaking and her eyes glistening with tears, “against some pretty difficult odds and we do it each one of us because we care about our country.”

“But some of us are right and some of us are wrong,” she said in a hesitant, quaking voice. “Some of us are ready and some of us are not.”

She is toast.

Thanks

So it ’s come to this. Crying for votes?

Better then lying to get them!

But then we knew along that they’re crocodile tears, because in the next New York nanosecond or so:

“I’ve had so many wonderful opportunities in this country,” she said, her voice catching. “This is very personal for me. It’s not just political. It’s not just public.”

“Some people think elections are a game,” she said went on. “It’s about our country. It’s about our kids’ futures. It’s really about all of us together. You know some of us put ourselves and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it, each one of us because we care about our country. Some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not.”

(Same link as my 78.)

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Even I have a line I don’t want to cross.

I think the term “Mama” is not part of kind converstation (even if there is a backstory). In addition I have my doubts on that story, what did she get some dust in her eye or something? Not a supporter and I doubt it.

What hour are you going to be on?

OK, you beat me to that…*g* That darn edit function…

7PM EST is the plan.

More from Bush:

History is odd. I will be long gone before the true history of the Bush administration is written. I’m still reading analyses of Abraham Lincoln’s presidency. I would hope, at least, at the very minimum, people would say that George W. Bush respected my religion, and has great concern for the human condition; that he hurts when he sees poverty and hopelessness; that he’s a realistic guy, because he understands that the only way that these extremists who murder the innocent can recruit is when you find — when they find hopeless situations — they have no vision that’s positive; and that he helped present an alternative, and that was one based upon liberty and the rights of men and women in a just and free society. That’s how I hope you remember me.

Ain’t going to happen, Georgie.

His megalomania is going to have a real hard time dealing with his lame-duckedness and his political toxicity.

Which is why I’m afraid he’s gonna get on board the Cheney Relevence Train any day now.

-G

P.S. Looks like Blimpbaugh is leaking pus too. Seems his dildoheads can’t deal with not being told what to do and who to support.

Meltdown nation.

I think the term “Mama” is not part of kind converstation (even if there is a backstory).

Yes there is. Some in MSM call her that. Haven’t you heard of “Don’t cry for Mama, I’m for Obama”?

Biodun: So it ’s come to this. Crying for votes?

I wonder how much she had to practice to generate those tears. Even during the worst of the Monica affair when it was obvious what her husband had done to her, she never shed a tear.

I don’t think that will help her at all and it might hurt her. The Tough Bitch image is actually a positive for her IMO as it’s honest and authentic (Something she is frequently accused of NOT being), and anything that dilutes it isn’t good.

Boxturtle (Disclaimer: I’m an ABC voter in the upcoming election)

I’m hearing some interesting rumors about Clinton staying in the race. Will try to get some better sources.

Wow, spot on – once again everything said is the bizzaro opposite. Ex. Bush respecting anything never mind peoples religion.

Nope—Bush is smokin funny cigarettes. He’ll be remembered as the guy who fucked up everything he touched cause he didn’t have the patience to figure out what the fuck he was doin before he did it.

Well…. I guess if she took on the moniker. It still seems a bit much to me.

James Carville calls her Mama.

-G

“I’ve had so many wonderful opportunities in this country,” she said, her voice catching. “This is very personal for me. It’s not just political. It’s not just public.”

“Some people think elections are a game,” she said went on. “It’s about our country. It’s about our kids’ futures. It’s really about all of us together. You know some of us put ourselves and do this against some pretty difficult odds. And we do it, each one of us because we care about our country. Some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not.”
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Then Hill said she would like to bomb the bejesus out of Iran or somebody as she bit the head off a small animal.

Oh, people in the MSM – then I stand by what I originally said; don’t like it at all.

More Bush:

I admire the great traditions of the Middle East and believe that the average man can succeed mightily

Bush is so for the average man yet in the speech he just gave in Chicago he was defending tax cuts for the rich and repeal of the estate tax. I do not think that word “average” means what he thinks it means.

I think Bill wants her out of the race…probably for good reason (her own safety)…JMHO

On the crying game if true. Could be looking for the backlash from Fox and everyone and trying to spin gold with it. I don’t think that sort of desperate strategy sounds like them though. Seems like a stupid strategy if true.

Now Huck looking for the ivory towers to insult him – that I see with his base. In this case I doubt that is what they are planning as it seems overly stupid.

…?

Any reasons I seen something like this said twice. Maybe its just hard to win Prez.

see the “own safety” quote. Ya think?

Mebbe he thinks that average is a C plus frat boy who was born on third base and thinks he hit a triple.

He’s made some statements out there that have left her campaign reeling…plus, these are ruthless, scary times…they are all really brave if you ask me.

Oh, people in the MSM – then I stand by what I originally said; don’t like it at all.

See GregB @ 98. I guess you better have some words with Carvilkle then. And good luck with that.

As with the media, Carville using a term is not necessarily a reason for others to use it. In fact, Carville using, just as with the media, is a good reason to NOT use it.

Obviously YMMV

Hillary’s got several big loss possibilities on the board before she gets to states where she can win- could be all over by then I guess.

Please, please, please. Mondale was a hack, is a hack, always a hack. Mondale was not trying to tell the truth. He actually thought it was a good tactic to accuse the other side of lying about the need to raise taxes. It was an attack, not a purposeful statement. And beyond stupid.

They’re ALL hacks- every bloody one.

Obama is not a hack and Adlai Stevenson was not a hack.

Obviously YMMV

This I definitely agree with. Not to quibble…*g*

All of the Clinton rumors have now been sourced back to the Edwards campaign primarily Joe Trippi…

oop story and link

Edwards Adviser Trippi: Hillary Campaign Is Broke
By Greg Sargent – January 7, 2008, 11:45AM
Edwards senior adviser Joe Trippi has a theory about the Clinton campaign: He says that it’s broke, or will be soon enough.
“There’s a good chance that they’re on the ropes financially,” Trippi argued in an interview by cell phone from New Hampshire. “I can guarantee you their money is drying up. I don’t think anyone is contributing to them.”
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/….._broke.php

Damn, Trippi is a straight up gangsta.

All I’m saying is that the use of that term is quite condescending and insulting. I’m sure you can think of a few terms that strike you in that same fashion that you would not want to have applied to yourself.

OK, I stand corrected. But: If Carville calls her that, and she doesn’t like it, don’t you think she would have told him to stop doing it? They’re close friends after all…

I’m thinkin’ Carville is/was more of a friend to Bill than to HRC. And I’d guess she probably has told him and has been ignored.

OK, case closed. I’ll stop calling her that. But some here have called her bitch, which I find more insulting. Name-calling isn’t really foreign to FDL is it? Clusterfuck, Chimpy, Darth, Novakula, and so on and so on.

Bush got re-elected, no? I make no assumptions about this “whole country” any more.

Name calling is not foreign to FDL and I call the Rs names that you have listed. But you may notice, there ARE certain terms that I do not use. Bitch is one of them..

Maybe the difference is the “nicknames” you list are for the individual but not those that are commonly used to denigrate and mock groups of individuals by their race/sex/whatever.

DAD

well we know that republicans have daddy syndrome and LOVE big daddy/big brother to tell them how to think and how to feel. it might work for the right for rudy to tell em what to think

Ok I get it. Those Repug names are specific to the individual. Whereas Mama could be applied to a group. I really get it now. Honest.

I think “bitch” can be approprite at times. Shouldn’t be over-used. Not a favorite of mine, though. I go easy on the girls.

Bush got re-elected, no?

NO! NO! and NO! again

living wage proposal,
single payer health care and a
war tax.

I think Americans would find it patriotic to pay off this debt early.

in Iraq.

we owe them a lot of money in damages (Pottery Barn)

Pardon the editing.

These all sound like great suggestions to me.

Where to set tax rates could be very difficult to know. I suspect Bush is leaving us with one heckuva mess after his 8-year party.

Better then lying to get them!

Honesty is always welcome. Better late than never.