Make no mistake, the secrecy and intimidation on these issues comes from a single source: the shadow national security apparatus Dick Cheney has been fostering for his own policy purposes, and protection of his network of neocon allies who have birthed and implemented the host of failed policies from acceptance of torture to the end-run of the rule of law at any price.
If you think they have any second thoughts about the long-term implications of their failures on US reputations, see, for example, this recent gem from fellow Cheney neocon traveller Frank Gaffney:
Frank Gaffney Jr., director of the Center for Security Policy, says he has been told that two key al-Qaida figures gave up critical intelligence when confronted with so-called "enhanced interrogation." He argues that "aggressive" methods are "absolutely essential and should not be ruled out," adding: "War is an evil. . . . It requires us to do evil things."
At Fort Huachuca, Lt. Col. Jennings insists there is no uncertainty among his instructors and students: The Army does not condone torture or train its interrogators to use such practices. A new Army Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation…requires soldiers to abide by the Geneva Conventions, general laws of war, federal statutes and the Detainee Treatment Act of 2005, all of which prohibit torture. The manual expressly forbids waterboarding and many other coercive methods employed during the war on terror….
As we know from the Libby trial, Dick Cheney will sacrifice anything — and anyone — in order to cover his own flank.
With reports of internal Bush Administration debate about increasing covert operations within Pakistan surfacing again, and mounting tensions in the region pushing Taliban sympathies to the fore as the Musharraf hold on power weakens with the assassination of Bhutto, an increase in public floating of options in order to seize the upper hand via covert PR plants has begun again. In earnest.
During the Libby trial, former Cheney spokesperson Catherine Martin (now a WH Press liaison) laid out in great detail the "anonymous plant and on the record confirmation strategy" of ginning up their own support from their own circle of friends (read: the WHIG). See this, for example, from the NYTimes:
Several of the participants in the meeting argued that the threat to the government of President Pervez Musharraf was now so grave that both Mr. Musharraf and Pakistan’s new military leadership were likely to give the United States more latitude, officials said. But no decisions were made, said the officials, who declined to speak for attribution because of the highly delicate nature of the discussions.
Hello, anonymous cover, yet again, with no intrinsic news value whatsoever. Who didn’t know that Musharraf’s government was threatened by the increased chaos following Bhutto’s death? Or that the Bush Administration would attempt to squeeze advantage out of that weakness — even to our long-term detriment if it bought them short-term claims to being action figureheads?
What I have been seeing over the last few weeks is that same pattern of behavior cropping up in story after story — clearly the lessons of Judy Miller were never learned. As Santayana famously said, "Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
The CIA will not publicly be admitting any errors, if recent public pushback from the press folks is any indication. Questions about interrogation techniques being taken too far across the line is nothing new. But the degree to which the White House, and more specifically Dick Cheney’s office, has been involved in shaping and enforcing that policy is. See Church Committee warnings, lather, rinse, repeat.
From the CIA to FISA fights to the use of the NSA for domestic spying purposes to a whole host of other issues which obliterate the notions of a balanced government in favor of a unilateral executive, what we have seen is the implementation of a host of policies designed solely to strengthen the hand of the President at the expense of everything, including the very foundations of our nation, the shaky underpinnings of which come straight from the raving lunacy of the neocon "braintrust." (This bloggingheads debate on "who is watching the watchers" lays this out nicely, thanks to Jack Balkin’s take.)
If we are to mend America’s tattered image, we can start by being honest with ourselves about what is being done in our names. And at whose behest.
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The Spoliation of America
Things are just about out of control. Rule of law? Rule of war.
” He argues that “aggressive” methods are “absolutely essential and should not be ruled out,” adding: “War is an evil. . . . It
requiresenables us to do evil things.” Just editing the quote for the “true” meaning….Impeach.
This administration has no rules they follow or break. The rule of law means the way the want to interpret them See Signing statements!
No more money for kids health care and those are just a few examples!
BTW, what is…”an evil”??????
A Santayana corollary – Those who can successfully hide history condemn the rest of us to have to constantly and confusedly jabber “WTF!!”
I recall well my party screaming at the top of their lungs about the 18 1/2 minute gap.
I believe that Dems in Congress have been illegally spied upon by the Executive branch to obtain blackmail fodder for Democratic spine removal. This is the only explanation that makes sense to me as to why the Bush administration’s criminal behavior is being minimized by Democratic members of Congress.
- Tom
Bag of shit he is. I agree Impeach! Impeach the whole administration top to bottom and put them in a dark hole for life!
How many lives have been and are going to be wasted just to keep cheny happy.
Records? What records? (See fire in the executive building next to vaders office? Aw how convenient.
They lost their balls some where along the way. Wouldn’t it be nice to get the truth and nothing but the truth!
and there’s this pentagon saber rattling in the straits of hormuz via the nytimes aka let’s bomb iran
Great series Redd.
A lot of work went into that, it shows.
here’s the link, i hope.
[RBG note; edited to fix link.]
OT ~ Toooo FUNNY YouTube!
Things are Coming Undone but not in a good way. Failure must be obvious to all for Change to happen and People to give new ways a chance.
Or we can ignore the lessons of failure and become a second rate power!
I’m afraid that the Bush administration favors Henry Ford’s position:
Doesn’t Ford’s attitude fit the “We make our own reality” sentiment of Cheney, Bush & Co.?
Bob in HI
I’m so weary of being too stupid to understand what Bush, Cheney, Condi, Gates, Mukasey and the rest of that little group are up to.
If torture really worked then just where is Ossama…after all these years?
link
The Crew has trashed the Constitution so thoroughly that it’s become almost unrecognizable. If it were not for the Sacred Cow of the 2nd Amendment, it would be totally unrecognizable as the heart of our Republic and “This Noble Experiment”…
Impeachment is the Cure.
Perhaps these Dems we’re trying to influence aren’t really Dems. Starting around 1995 and watching Clinton do one thing after another that made me smack my head (D’oh!), along with many of the Dem “leaders” who are still there “leading,” I started thinking that these people are there specifically to undermine the DemocratIC Party from within. I think the DLC was created just for this reason. They do just enough Liberal stuff to keep us complacent and satisfied. That’s the whole game of it all.
This last year has proven this theory for me. Blackmail isn’t necessary. That’s just who they are.
It is amazing how this Tyranny has been able to get away with imprisoning and torturing all of those Afghanis and Iraqis after they attacked us on 9/11.
Let’s just start with that friggin’ myth!!!!! It makes me sooo incredibly angry.
Will Huckabee, Rudy, McCain or Thompson be more forthcoming about Intel? I don’t think so. And some in my party say bombing Iran is not off the table.
Where is the evidence Al Quieda has tortured our Solders? Or in weakness compared to Al Quieda have we tortured while Al Quieda has just killed our solders and kept the moral high ground?
If Bush had any evidence of Al Queida torturing or solders he would have shown it by now. But after all these years I would expect Al Quieda to be torturing our solders by now or soon.
How long can we keep hoping they will not do what Bush has done from the start to our troops.
I know some of these people! I want my friends safe. There were no WMD.
In terms of impeachment, the impression in this house is that Bush and Pelosi are simply running out the clock. And soon enough it will be ‘out of sight, out of mind’.
There would have been no screaming in the Nixon era if Pelosi and Reid had been in leadership positions.
I am inclined to coincide with your view on the matter.
“Where is the evidence Al Quieda has tortured our Solders?”
Evidence? We don’t need no stinkin’ evidence! We know who the Dirty Rotten Bastards are! They’re Evil good for nothing Killers! We know what they’d do to our soldiers, so we have to do it to them first, before they get their hands on our soldiers! Do unto others before they do it unto you! Isn’t that what the Good Book says??? Our minds are made up! Evidence would just confuse us with facts!
Oh, Lordy. End of rant. It makes me sick just to try to think like that.
Bob in HI
I love the ending of the post “
Spoliation.
It’s the word of the day.
With any luck it might become the word of 2008.
I already like it better than truthiness.”
Sounds good to me Spoliation, spoliation tell all your friends and neighbors! Bush uses spoliation to hide his misdeeds! Yep thats spoliation we have here now what can be dome about it??
What Bob said!
I drank with the ROTC guys and galls. I went to college with the Gulf 1 vets.
I understood about WMD. I thought that we needed more troops in Iraq at the start of the invasion to keep my friends safe.
No WMD well no way was this war “worth it ” to risk my friends!
And thats why I’m here. Me and Mine
This business with the Iranian boats and our navy today in the Strait of Hormuz. Our Intel is asking us to believe in effect that Iran is almost begging the most militarily powerful nation of Earth to attack it?
WAHH!
Just saw the video of Clinton “crying.” Maybe it’s me, but goddamn it looks SO fake. Who the hell does she think we are?!? Just go away to some cushy job on Wall St. Please!
http://www.newsweek.com/id/85609
**if it’s real, Lord please forgive me.
The Cafferty File McGovern’s call for Impeachment of the Bobbsey twins Twill and Twilly
Twill do that And Twilly will do this.
Even as a joke you would not have finished that sentence. I know you are doing SNARK but. As a friend don’t please
OT.
Breaking News:
Frank Luntz has fired his toupee.
-G
Ya mean you don’t think it is not just adjusting the facts??
Our nitwit prez would never tell a lie. So what happened today in the Strait of Hormuz must be an accurate account.
Wow, Jack McCafferty just asked “Why won’t Congress Impeach Shrub and Darth..?”
Excuse me, while I pick my jaw off of the desk… ;-)
I thought the Clinton scene seemed legit. I don’t think she wanted to show as much as she did.
Her best strategy now is to run to the left- and go hard against Bush..
His answer: The Harry and Nancy show!
There are times when GWB must “adjust the facts”. It’s for our own good.
Her downfall began when hubby Bubba tried telling us Americans that he was going to resurrect the dessicated old man Bush from his seaside crypt and fly around the world telling everyone that his son is retarded.
Sacred everyone near to death.
-G
Hillary can force Obama to put some flesh on the bones of policy he vaguely describes. That usually causes some fall off in support as people realize what’s really going to be proposed.
Father Darth knows best!
Obama is not our guy. And Hillary is not our girl.
Great video Lou.
My friend Amy was a gulf war 1 vet. I saved her from a drunk frat boy once so she bought me drinks. Tall thin Strawberry Blonde hair oh and Dating a African American girl also a Gulf war one vet.
She was there and understanding although I never told her why I was so sad my brother had just died.
She just knew and accepted it was great to talk to somebody who understood pain and accepted without pushing for answers.
There is a human cost to this war that I wish we didn’t over look so much.
If haven’t seen it Crooks and Liars has the video of Hannity fleeing like a coward with a pack of Paulians yelling Fox News Sucks.
Oh yeah, and Frank Luntz has a bad toupee.
-G
Thanks, LHP — Just got back from an errand I had to run with The Peanut. Sorry to have been AWOL for a bit, gang…these two posts took a while to put together today.
Sure would be nice to see all these presidential candidates from Congress get up on their hind legs and lead on these issues, but so far, the Leading Congressional Presidential Candidates aren’t doing it, and the lesser lights can’t get a hearing.
Hm. Idea. Maybe that’s why the Leading Candidates aren’t doing it? Ya think?
Might mean Cheney et al will get away with it. And will sit in their
Doomsday Bunkers pulling their strings till… when?
When will they be brought to justice and who will do it?
Oh Yeah check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&NR=1
Three Stooges they are great!
Yah motor boats are such a threat to Destroyers.
Thanks for the post. It was well worth our time and I’m sure yours, too.
Here is another one for enjoyment “I don’t Care” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..&NR=1
Do check out the links in both posts, gang. There is some really great background material there, and I’d hate for folks to miss it.
WASHINGTON – An Iranian fleet of high-speed boats charged at and threatened to blow up a three-ship U.S. Navy convoy passing near Iranian waters, then vanished as the American ship commanders were preparing to open fire, the top U.S. Navy commander in the area said Monday.
Iran has stealth technology on their cigarette boats apparently.
These goons are gonna plunge us into another and another war.
-G
Some on the scene witnessses indicated they were rowboats. Reportedly, one of the Iranian rowboats had a BB gun on board though.
GW Clusterfuck out raisin hell- he HATES it that he’s no longer the center of attention- he’d take a shit on the White House lawn if he had to ta get the camera back on him.
Christy, how the video is the Police byut you are quoting Santana?
-G
;)
How come…..
I hope you are exercising I’m here early cause I went to Yoga, the Chiropracter and then the Hot Tub. No Yoga tommarrow I need the Chiropracters’s adjustments to set for two or three days otherwise I’ll hurt myself again.
But we need you to take care of yourself. I can’t imagine November without you.
Sorry to get Preachy I’m still overweight myself.
The core of Iran’s fighting ships are several Chinese, French and Iranian made small missile boats. In particular, there are five Chinese Cat-14 fast attack catamarans of very recent design and build. These catamarans are believed to travel at 50 knots (93 km/h), and are extremely stable and mobile. All five are armed with the latest design of Chinese anti-ship missiles. The rest of Iran’s navy consists of around 250 small costal and inshore patrol craft.
Your joking right row boats jut how would Bush go gulf of Tonkin on us with row boats:)
New Thread.
actually, it looks right on to me. i just saw the video and it looks to me like the media are really overracting to nothing. it’s up on cnn if anyone wants to watch it. and fwiw, i support edwards.
People can change with necessity and wisdom never close the door on sinners.
But never stop condemming the sin. Obama is proud now and must be brought low to see this.
Still an angry Black man is what the GOP wants, again I hope that he is playing possum
The GOP will accuse him of this soon. So his act is a waste of time I hope he realizes this soon.
Again I’m being so Catholic for some reason. I have forgiven even Maximillan.
The problem is that Hillary can’t exactly use her major asset, the fact that she is a sitting Senator, to start to develop the credibility she needs to counter Obama and Edwards. If she had actually supported Dodd’s filibuster more actively, or had repeatedly requested that the House investigate Cheney for Unconstitutional acts (a safe position by the way, since she would not have to actually do very much about it), or had more vehemently insisted on holding funds for Iraq unless there was a firm withdrawal schedule…
Well, then she may have been able to illustrate her credibility. But she never championed anything that would counter her vote for the Iraq Authorizing Resolution. That’s been the albatross around her neck. Edwards was able to free himself of that once he was free of the burden of having to make political compromises…after he actually stepped down from the Senate. To that point he was in favor of the invasion and even advised Kerry not to back away from the Authorizing Resolution vote. And Obama never had the albatross.
One word: ratings.
It would be nice if you’d include a link on your sources here, but I’m guessing that they are correct. How ironic, too, because the Iranian attack catamarans represent the kind of Navy that Donald Rumsfeld’s transformational thinking would love, and the aircraft carriers and destroyers are like, oh so World War II thinking that Rumsfeld despises.
Are the Iranians stealing pages from Rumsfeld’s playbook?
Bob in HI
http://impeachmenthearingsnow.blogspot.com/
And the firing of Archibald Cox after the Pres said he wouldn’t interfere with his investigation. The Saturday Night Massacre was the first time I ever wrote my Congressman and Senators. I was 28 years old, and I had been paying attention to politics for many years prior, by the way. Guess I’ve always been a political junkie.
Ok that’s pretty frickin funny
Hilarious!!
Just watched this the first time myself on TV.
Sorry to disagree with you but I thought it was real. Hilary came across to me as someone who is real, who is truly concerned, and perhaps dismayed that she hasn’t been able to get the message out that this country can be better than is has been under the Bush administration.
Hilary has her faults, but I don’t doubt her sincerity.
May the Lord forgive you. *g*.
man I wish I was here for this thread, am posting this after it is long old
anyway;
must post this on all cheney threads
Dick Cheney’s program started with his self-appointment as vice president for an indolent, illiterate, weak man. Its gestation goes back thirty years. 9/11 was as an opportunity to implement it, to appropriate our reasonable fears in order to suspend the normal checks and balances that would have prevented it. An old method familiar to the pope and his Inquisitions.
Critically, Cheney’s plan was implemented by a man with no formal power or authority, but who appropriated the president’s without a whimper from the Oval Office. Hence, the added need for secrecy. But as long as the Shrubster could go to bed at 9.00 o’clock and still ride his bike, as long as he could avoid paying a fair share of taxes on unearned income from trust funds accumulating since the Civil War, it was OK by him.
Equally critically, the Cheney plan obfuscates not just his authorship, but who benefits: the recently discussed new “triangular traders”. Not this time those who made millions (in North and South alike) trading slaves, for molasses, for rum. This go round, it’s the billionaires, the neocon “intellectuals”, and a small group of corporations and wealthy investors.
Fear is profitable, ask Raytheon and Halliburton and Blackwater. Its contagious and spreads on its own. But it benefits Wall Street, not Main Street. Fear makes people forget their own issues and man the pumps. No point negotiating the union contract, or organizing for national health care, or stopping the creeping privatization of public universities when the house is burning down.
But Cheney’s “one percent” limit for fearsome creatures, written about by Ron Suskind, illustrates that the publicized fears are not rationally based. As do color-coded alerts around the holidays and key Congressional votes. The secrecy and fear that hides Cheney’s authorship does sucker punch normal policy reviews and cost/benefit analyses, and the network of bureaucrats who would do them. (And bolsters the work of neocon think tank “intellectuals” that provide the “rational” foundations for a post-apocalyptic, er 9/11, America.)
Scott Horton’s work illustrates an important element of the plan: the corruption of the DOJ in order to act outside the law, to hide it, and to avoid being accountable for it. It also derails and punishes opponents, including whistleblowers, and their backers. Added to secrecy and fear, retribution clips the opposition, including most ominously, Congressional oversight. That leads to enactment of laws that institutionalize the president’s word as the only law of the land.
Jello Jay, Harried Harmon, Running Reid – take note. The voters are awakening. They are coming. And they are not happy.