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		<title>By: myers</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1190092</link>
		<dc:creator>myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Electing Obama will also send a very clear message to the wider world; Not all Americans are batshit crazy racists and bigots,”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just wait for the Harold Ford redux and get back with me. Sadly, it doesn’t&lt;br /&gt;
take but a few batshit crazy racists, to prove to the wider world that this country has completely gone off the tracks.&lt;br /&gt;
The Republicans for over a quarter century,have picked their leader, based on the solidarity and support of the most reactionary elements of society and have empowered same, well beyond their numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
This group is not going to go quietly into the wilderness and I doubt that Murdoch’s minions can resist the urge to rattle their cages.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Electing Obama will also send a very clear message to the wider world; Not all Americans are batshit crazy racists and bigots,”</p>
<p>Just wait for the Harold Ford redux and get back with me. Sadly, it doesn’t<br />
take but a few batshit crazy racists, to prove to the wider world that this country has completely gone off the tracks.<br />
The Republicans for over a quarter century,have picked their leader, based on the solidarity and support of the most reactionary elements of society and have empowered same, well beyond their numbers.<br />
This group is not going to go quietly into the wilderness and I doubt that Murdoch’s minions can resist the urge to rattle their cages.</p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189770</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for mentioning a “clothespin”. I had wondered how I was going to vote if Obama is the candidate and I entered the voting booth holding my nose with both hands. Thanks to you I have the solution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for mentioning a “clothespin”. I had wondered how I was going to vote if Obama is the candidate and I entered the voting booth holding my nose with both hands. Thanks to you I have the solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Desider</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189715</link>
		<dc:creator>Desider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wanted my comment above to stand on its own.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I also think there’s an inherent sexism at work, in that work on women’s and children’s issues doesn’t rise to the star level of “Civil Rights”, even though it’s about much the same thing. Many of us remember the little girls killed in Birmingham 45 years ago, but how many remember the bombings, arson, shootings and stabbings at abortion clinics over the last 15 years? Reducing poverty often means combining job programs, education, health care and childcare solutions for single mothers, though our macho idea of “good jobs” seems to always be about manufacturing jobs and assembly lines. Getting out the black vote is considered a noble effort, whereas getting out women’s vote is often considered sexist and unnecessary - “playing the gender card”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted my comment above to stand on its own.</p>
<p>But I also think there’s an inherent sexism at work, in that work on women’s and children’s issues doesn’t rise to the star level of “Civil Rights”, even though it’s about much the same thing. Many of us remember the little girls killed in Birmingham 45 years ago, but how many remember the bombings, arson, shootings and stabbings at abortion clinics over the last 15 years? Reducing poverty often means combining job programs, education, health care and childcare solutions for single mothers, though our macho idea of “good jobs” seems to always be about manufacturing jobs and assembly lines. Getting out the black vote is considered a noble effort, whereas getting out women’s vote is often considered sexist and unnecessary &#8211; “playing the gender card”.</p>
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		<title>By: Desider</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189702</link>
		<dc:creator>Desider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 08:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary has been working on children’s and women’s advocacy since the 60’s, including academic work, lawyering, board work, starting up foundations and legislation. This is who she is, and I don’t think she’s gotten enough credit for it. One comment she made a while back was “women make lists”, and I think that produces a thoroughness and discipline in her - she gets back to people, details don’t fall through the cracks, she stays focused - I think that would correct some of the biggest problems seen from Bill’s administration. The comments on thehillaryiknow.com support the anger from her debate appearance - she remembers particular people and helps out individually as well as on smaller and larger legislation initiatives. This isn’t just something she’s planning on doing. Her time in the Senate has been a good finishing school for her, coming in with a rather negative reputation and low expectations and turning that around with patient steady work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has been working on children’s and women’s advocacy since the 60’s, including academic work, lawyering, board work, starting up foundations and legislation. This is who she is, and I don’t think she’s gotten enough credit for it. One comment she made a while back was “women make lists”, and I think that produces a thoroughness and discipline in her &#8211; she gets back to people, details don’t fall through the cracks, she stays focused &#8211; I think that would correct some of the biggest problems seen from Bill’s administration. The comments on thehillaryiknow.com support the anger from her debate appearance &#8211; she remembers particular people and helps out individually as well as on smaller and larger legislation initiatives. This isn’t just something she’s planning on doing. Her time in the Senate has been a good finishing school for her, coming in with a rather negative reputation and low expectations and turning that around with patient steady work.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189569</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;today’s NYT editorial take on Edwards, the “coiffed Southern lawyer”. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They still can’t get over having won the Civil War.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Geez, can’t we find some smarter nicer people somewhere in America?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>today’s NYT editorial take on Edwards, the “coiffed Southern lawyer”. </p>
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<p>They still can’t get over having won the Civil War.</p>
<p>Geez, can’t we find some smarter nicer people somewhere in America?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189563</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think Edwards has the most substantial and consistant platform, but then he hasn’t been politically distracted even to the degree of voting ‘present’.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another arrogant, but uninformed Obama supporter no doubt.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards isn’t currently in the senate. Sigh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Edwards has the most substantial and consistant platform, but then he hasn’t been politically distracted even to the degree of voting ‘present’.</p>
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<p>Another arrogant, but uninformed Obama supporter no doubt.</p>
<p>Edwards isn’t currently in the senate. Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189554</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;I really really really wish the media didn’t ignore Edwards and detest Hillary.
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&lt;p&gt;The rich, through their media, show their distrust of Edwards and in so doing show their disregard for Democracy. They are undoing America.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I really really really wish the media didn’t ignore Edwards and detest Hillary.
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<p>The rich, through their media, show their distrust of Edwards and in so doing show their disregard for Democracy. They are undoing America.</p>
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		<title>By: amberglow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189447</link>
		<dc:creator>amberglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t either–i’ve been voting since 84, and don’t remember this kind of overt shunning of a mainstream and viable candidate ever before. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Edwards really is a threat to their bosses (and them too, if they’re rich).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t either–i’ve been voting since 84, and don’t remember this kind of overt shunning of a mainstream and viable candidate ever before. </p>
<p>Edwards really is a threat to their bosses (and them too, if they’re rich).</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kiddo In the McGovern post (the all time best for me including Bob’s explanation) it also put a song back in my heart. Below you said you lived in the city SF and supported Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern.&lt;br /&gt;
I went over to Berkeley and participated as well. I worked for OM…organic Merchants in Richmond neighborhood. Filmore West, a fantastic time for politics and music. I was there earlier for the Beat generation. City Lights bookstore it was so great.  It was a mind expanding experience in more ways that I can count. Cultural (Renasaince Fair), intellectual and political even became a Buhddist Mountain Climber. Why Oklahoma?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiddo In the McGovern post (the all time best for me including Bob’s explanation) it also put a song back in my heart. Below you said you lived in the city SF and supported Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern.<br />
I went over to Berkeley and participated as well. I worked for OM…organic Merchants in Richmond neighborhood. Filmore West, a fantastic time for politics and music. I was there earlier for the Beat generation. City Lights bookstore it was so great.  It was a mind expanding experience in more ways that I can count. Cultural (Renasaince Fair), intellectual and political even became a Buhddist Mountain Climber. Why Oklahoma?</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Graham Cracker</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/making-their-case-for-them/#comment-1189374</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Graham Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 04:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I’m sorry. Planned Parenthood and NARAL lost the right to put the “pro-choice stamp of approval” on anything when they sent out those mailers telling their members to thank Joe Lieberman for his vote to put Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. To grant them that authority is positively ahistoric. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is definitely a double standard going on here. If Hillary Clinton tried that old “the dog ate my Senate schedule” excuse for missing Kyl-Lieberman (when there was evidence to the contrary), there would be spew alerts everywhere.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://firedoglake.com/2008/01.....-misogyny/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I’m sorry. Planned Parenthood and NARAL lost the right to put the “pro-choice stamp of approval” on anything when they sent out those mailers telling their members to thank Joe Lieberman for his vote to put Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. To grant them that authority is positively ahistoric. </p>
<p>There is definitely a double standard going on here. If Hillary Clinton tried that old “the dog ate my Senate schedule” excuse for missing Kyl-Lieberman (when there was evidence to the contrary), there would be spew alerts everywhere.<br />
<a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/" rel="nofollow">http://firedoglake.com/2008/01&#8230;..-misogyny/</a></p>
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