Last Saturday, in the comments section of my post, I invited FDL readers to make their case for who among the Democratic front-runners they thought should be president in 300 words or less, and promised to post what I thought were the best (and by ‘best’ I mean most thoughtful and detailed) responses.
Here are the ones I liked the best. Enjoy and comment!
For Obama:
PeteCO, January 5th, 2008 at 9:18 am:
I will say that everyone should read Obama’s autobiography, "Dreams from my Father". That’s what makes him such a compelling candidate, for me. Here is a guy who is about my age, and although he grew up in vastly different circumstances, is of my generation and appears to see things my way on issues like drugs (hands up those who haven’t "experimented" at some time in their lives) and race (content of character, remember that?). I guess what I’m driving at is that he’s the first post-boomer candidate, and doesn’t have any of that baggage (enough with Vietnam, already.) He also has kids who WILL be affected by climate change, so hopefully he’ll take it seriously.
Electing Obama will also send a very clear message to the wider world; Not all Americans are batshit crazy racists and bigots, and majority of the electorate rejects and repudiates the last 20 years of Bush/Clinton dynastic politics. Obama signals that the US is ready to rejoin the community of nations as a mature democracy.
I don’t think that’s 300 words.
Actually, it’s 177. Good job!
Backing Edwards:
Katymine, January 5th, 2008 at 9:04 am
JohnEdwards
http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/health-care/"So this is a smart, serious proposal. It addresses both the problem of the uninsured and the waste and inefficiency of our fragmented insurance system. And every candidate should be pressed to come up with something comparable."
Paul Krugman
The New York TimesOne position is to help provide education for children across the world. THE number one way to lower numbers in prison is early childhood education. To contact children to show that America is not the evil purveyor of war but an agent of good we can cut into the next generation of terrorists.
Makes the case for Hillary:
SKY1, January 5th, 2008 at 9:58 am
Phoenix woman, each state is different, and does not necessarily reflect what the rest of the nation thinks. I’m from Missouri, and actually live in a medium-sized city–yet the majority here are religious Republicans who are pro-Bush. Two-thirds in my area voted against gay interests when it came amendment time–thank heavens areas like St. Louis and KC got us Claire McCaskill, stem cell research, and are more pro-gay. I have a friend who lived in Cedar Rapids for a lengthy period of time. She said the people there are typically traditionalists who have a more conservative view of women in society. I understand the Clinton camp knew Iowa was going to be a tough sell before they ever ventured in. My point, please don’t assume the rest of the country will vote as Iowa. I understand that there was only a percentage point difference between Obama and Hillary amongst Democratic voters. What I would like to see, is more understanding of where Obama stands. He’s against the Kyl-Lieberman bill, but didn’t VOTE against it. Is he FOR women’s abortion rights? I don’t know. He never mentions it, as he votes "Present" on such sticky subjects. No interviewer ever brings that up. I’ve only seen one reporter ask him why he was the only state senator in Illinois to vote against a woman’s right to have the records sealed in court after she was sexually assaulted. When asked about the matter, he mumbled, and explained, well, the bill probably wasn’t written right. I don’t know what his answer was, frankly. –And I don’t think he did either. I understand his voting record is quite similar to Hillary’s, so I don’t see the "Change" candidate except for his skin being black. From what I’ve read, his voting record only differs when it came to the confirming Gen. Casey. Obama voted FOR him. Hillary voted AGAINST him. Hillary did her homework and found out he was incompetent (does that sound familiar?), and not as knowledgeable about matters he should have been.
Likes Edwards, but thinks Obama’s gonna take it:
fahrender, January 5th, 2008 at 9:19 am:
i’m a John Edwards supporter. i think he has had the best things to say about economic issues and social issues. he’s focused on the enemies of America, 99% of whom live within our borders and have waaay too much power, politically and economically. he has lead the way on stating his policies and plans.
however, right now i think Barak Obama has a fantastic chance of winning the nomination of the Democratic Party. i think both Edwards and Hillary were hurt pretty badly in Iowa. i think Iowa was more important this time than any previous time because so many candidates of both parties got into the fray so early. Edwards didn’t have the cash but he really put in the time and that should have counted in Iowa. Hillary had the money and the organization but she came out third. both Edwards and Hillary are under the gun. if they change what they are doing now it’s over. if they don’t change what they’re doing it may well be over as well.
i have never seen higher energy and positive vibes than i saw watching the tape of Obama speaking thursday night. the energy came from him and it came from his supporters. this is the kind of phenomena that will energize the American voter like nothing has in a very long time. i don’t know much at all about Obama’s policy plans and who his advisers and cabinet will be but if he takes the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries there will be nothing that can stop him. and i mean he’ll take the whole ball of wax. America will elect him without batting an eye. i hope he already has Secret Service protection.meanwhile, good luck in New Hampshire, John Edwards. you’re gonna need it.
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I’m with Fahrender…
Damn, they found the body of the hiker killed in the North Georgia mountains.
Edwards will leverage his hard work and skills, pick the right issues and persue them with determination. His health care plan is superior. He is the candidate taking the lead on all of the major issues including the battle for the Middle Class & Poor. He is being supressed by the “well-born”.
When I was younger, I idealistically rooted for Bill Clinton, even before the first primary votes came in. Of course I became very disappointed with his rolling over for the Republicans again and again.
So now I’m older, a bit more cynical, rooting for Edwards and just hoping for the best regardless of who wins. We’ll need to keep fighting no matter who does.
PW!
Howdy, everybody! What’s shakin’?
LS!
Eepah! Things are going from outlandish to Goddamn bizarre. Sen. Clinton just made this statement at one of her closing rallies:
“Last year I went to Fallujah with John McCain. Yeah, I’ve travelled with him and I say what happens on the road stays on the road.”
Make it end!
-G
Hi, everyone!
Wasn’t there some shit about them doing shots?
Obama offers change from the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton cycle of politics which is failing us. Hillary bashing MLK and Obama together says a lot about her. Obama offers hope. His message is powerful and America is ready for it. Hope and the desire for change have caused America to be great before, and it can again.
Obama doesn’t do so badly on experience either. Just successfully taking on the Clinton machine is great experience. And unlike all his major opponents, Obama was wise enough not to support the war in Iraq from the start, always advocating finishing the job in eradicating bin Ladin. Obama’s position against the Iraq war was not popular and not easy especially in the middle of his campaign for Senator, but he took the hard road nonetheless.
Obama would be older than Bill Clinton when Bill was first elected President and Obama already is older than JFK when he was elected President. Another successful President who was older than Obama upon taking office was T.R.
If you take a close look at the “experience” of Obama’s opponents, it’s not like they are former successful governors either. Hillary’s main experience as First Lady was failing to implement healthcare reform and then being relegated to the backburner for the rest of Bill’s terms. She still won’t release her official records as First Lady either, which is troubling given that we need government openness more than ever.
Hillary voted for Bush’s warmongering proposal to declare Iran’s military to be terrorists as recently as a few weeks ago – only to write a letter to the President “clarifying” her position. On both her votes on Iran and Iraq, Hillary will not admit she made a mistake.
Unlike Hillary, Obama does not take lobbyist money or 527 money. Obama spearheaded ethics reform in Congress. This is the type of politics I hope America votes for.
It’s time for a change.
Sexist pig :)
I really really really wish the media didn’t ignore Edwards and detest Hillary.
We’re all getting such a skewed view of everything even tho we know the media’s biases. I shudder to think how less-informed voters are viewing things.
He’s in it to the convention…… But a little luck now wouldn’t hurt.
Doing shots? That’s weird.
I was for Edwards the second Kerry finsihed his concession speech in Boston that afternoon. I thought he had done a good job in the campaign and I thought he could win. That’s all i cared about that day. I was sick of losing. Still am. Didn’t know what Edwards really stood for then, but now I like his priorities and his background. And he can win.
What’s really needed here…
Question to others re media bias. I’ve watched politics for a long time — longer than I’d care to admit. Has there ever been a media bias against a “major” presidential candidate on the order of what’s going on with Edwards?
If so, I don’t remember one. Anyone else?
I’ll vote for whoever gets the nod, but my preference is Edwards.
I didn’t like Obama’s answer to question #3 from:
http://www.10questions.com
A couple of factors that Obama has in play, that are truly beneficial are; he has aroused the 30 and under set, his color of skin is not a viable issue, and, his turnout is indisputable… *g*
It’s time for a change.
Well, I guess that’s why we’re having an election.
Everybody, but everybody get’s that.
Even my dog knows we need a change.
One of the reasons I do not support Obama is his totally underwhelming grasp of what we need. Like Senators who actually show up for a vote.
I’m not a Hillary supporter, per se, but I do agree that action over blah blah matters.
Hmmmmph.
I live in California, so it doesn’t really matter who I support.
HILLARY CLINTON, MCCAIN HELD VODKA-DRINKING CONTEST Fri Jul 28 2006 19:19:50 ET
On a congressional trip to Estonia, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton astonished her traveling companions by suggesting the group do what one does in the Baltics: hold a vodka-drinking contest!
Delighted, the leader of the overseas delegation, Sen. John McCain, quickly agreed, the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report on Saturday.
The after-dinner game went so well — memories are a bit hazy on who drank how much. McCain later told people how unexpectedly fun he found Hillary to be.
TIMES reporter Anne Kornblut has filed a story on the curious relationship between Hillary and John McCain, newsrooms sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT.
“One of the guys,” is the way McCain describes her.
I believe that the mainstream media is kicking Edwards and Clinton to the curb because their corporate masters think Obama is the most beatable by whichever Republican emerges from the clown car.
What Farender said.
We are planning to vote for the nominee of our party. Be it Hillary, Obama or Edwards.
Except that Darth opened up a can of whup-ass on the great trial lawyer in the debates.
I’m getting the spins just thinking about it.
What it says Business is good
jo6pac
makes me glad I’ve been sober for sooooo long
Edwards would’ve had to been on the curb, before they could’ve kicked’em there…! 8-(
Me too. But I may have to hold my nose to do so. Wish I didn’t feel that way.
Obama and Clinton have been running for President for the past 4 years and their Senate votes reflect their view of what they expect to be politically practical. Obama’s rhetoric has outstripped his actions.
That’s OK by me if he ends up actually doing something as President.
Feingold and Kucinich have consistantly acted as responsable Congresmen.
Neither will be available options in ‘08.
I think Edwards has the most substantial and consistant platform, but then he hasn’t been politically distracted even to the degree of voting ‘present’.
Any of the three beat *any* other option.
We would rather have Senator Clinton as president by a long shot than any of those fossils commonly referred to as Republicans.
Ma’am, I’d already vowed to have a clothespin handy when I entered the booth, irregardless… *g*
OKKiddo …you are too kind fine gentleman calling the Rethugs “fossils”. Is the beauteous Lahoma previewing/editing your comments? *g* *g*
We, too.
CT
What do you think took him to the curb?
I guess I’m not understanding your comment.
Well, another bcs game not worth staying up until midnight for!
I live in FL so it absolutely doesn’t matter who I support. All this talk about HRC being dead after NH would be soooo different if DNC didn’t take away our delegates – we have more than Iowa, NH & SC combined and Hillary had been polling really, really well. she coulda made up ground. But you’ll never really know with Obama bein a juggernaut an’ all.
Disagree.
I think you are right..It seems the “dog whistle” on Obama is that he is a crypto “islamofascist”. While driving through South West Virgina last night; wingnut radio kept referring to Obama as “Barak Mohammed Hussein Obama” and that he would open all of the US borders to illegal alien migration from the third world. Hillary “Rotten” Clinton was getting very little attention.
It’s the most stunning thing I’ve ever seen. He is The Invisible Man. I’d suggest he come out in a dress and pearls, but Julie-ani’s already taken care of that…
I stared at that picture for 20 minutes. It brought tears to my eyes when I saw in a bit of comedy what is really confronting us. That picture is worth a million words and it brings all of the Prez wannabeez to their neez.
I don’t feel that way. when you compare ours to theirs. I have no problem voting for any of these three or the even the people below them or who have left the race. it’s a good field.
I guess my assertion that the SEC is overrated is losing steam.
Love the “Julie-ani” — one of the more clever names I’ve seen
Yeah, it sucks that the DLC took away your delegates.
Bummer, dude.
Y’all have had a bad run, voting-wise.
Speaking of politics, oh dang, I missed Arnold’s state of the state tonight.
Rats. Ha.
Ban the Buckeyes! Didn’t they score first last year, too?
She does make suggestions from time to time. ;0)
Great post, PW. Let’s not forget today’s NYT editorial take on Edwards, the “coiffed Southern lawyer”. When the grey lady plays MoDo, we’re all in trouble.
PhysioProf @ 48:I guess my assertion that the SEC is overrated is losing steam.
I guess my feling the same way was dumb. Take Hawaii and the….. never mind.
Demi, He’d have to have been a ‘viable’ candy in their eyes(MSM), He’s only received the same cursory attention that has been accorded; Dodd, Biden, Richardson, DK, etc… It is a travesty on all sides… look at Ron Paul’s rude reception… 8-(
I was all down about it yesterday, but as I think about it, Obama can get the Dems in the state energized again. Hilary? Get out the red marker.
TimeWarner CNN is reporting breaking news about the Hillary campaign. James Carville is willing to take over campaign from the “Chief Strategist” Mark Penn. This would certainly take failure into success with no problems.
Oh maybe one problem. James Carville helped Scooter Libby spread the lies about the Iraq War.
Thanks for the ’splanation.
I get what you’re saying. :( me too.
I live in PA, so I don’t vote until April! About 40 states are ahead of me. We need one single day of voting for the primary, just like the national election. That truly counts every voter equally.
I agree whole-heartedly! Let’em be heard…! *g*
We are going to keep our eyes on the prize. The White House.
Sleep tight tonight, each of you.
lahoma and me.
Sounds like he who wrote about the “coiffed Southern lawyer” may have quaffed himself before writing it.
Aloha, OKK and lahoma!
Tighty tight, Kiddo and Lahoma.
I’m down for the count myself.
Stevie King and a hot bath.
Night, kiddo.
LOL! BTW, Hugh, in regards to McGovern’s plea, where should Congress start on your list, No.1? *g*
MSM started all this Obama rockstar stuff and the HRC is invincible stuff and then systematically dissed everyone else, one by one….now they are banning Kucinich and Paul from participation in debates and such…Paul’s supporters at least chased Sean Hannity down the street….
When “we the people” discuss the candidates, it feels as though we are doing it as if we think everything is okay. Everything is not okay. The 2000 election was stolen and so was 2004. Everything else is an act as if everything is just hunky dory. It is not. Sigh.
I know alot of you out west missed it what with the weather and all and were asking…..
Rutgers did beat Ball State in the International Bowl, 52-30. Screw you, Letterman!!!
Hannity = pussy. get ‘em Paultards!!!!!
So Diebold machines are being used for the NH Primary. I guess that means the counting of votes will be quick and easy.
A raucous bunch, eh?
Ah, I just came back to the lake and found the Coulter ad staring at me. I’ve been waiting for that momnent! I clicked on it just so Jane gets $$$ from her. However, I couldn’t think of someone I dislike so as to put their e-mail address down to get coulter-grams.
OK Jon Stewart on sans script!
John Edwards sez Obama takes corporate contributions and they have influenced his votes on health care
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..79790.html
“A” Daily Show, not “The” Daily Show. The Daily Show won’t be back until the strike is over.
Writer’s strike solidarity unibrow. . . .
According to this article Obama’s definition of pac and corporate contributions is one of those is is things
Published on Sunday, April 22, 2007 by Los Angeles Times
Obama’s Refusal of Lobbyists’ Money Has its Limits
by Dan Morain
WASHINGTON – While pledging to turn down donations from lobbyists themselves, Sen. Barack Obama raised more than $1 million in the first three months of his presidential campaign from law firms and companies that have major lobbying operations in the nation’s capital.Portraying himself as a new-style politician determined to reform Washington, Obama makes his policy clear in fundraising invitations, stating that he takes no donations from “federal lobbyists.” His aides announced last week he was returning $43,000 to lobbyists who donated to his campaign.
But the Illinois Democrat’s policy of shunning money from lobbyists registered to do business on Capitol Hill does not extend to lawyers whose partners lobby there.
Nor does the ban apply to corporations that have major lobbying operations in Washington. And the prohibition does not extend to lobbyists who ply their trade in such state capitals as Springfield, Ill.; Tallahassee, Fla.; and Sacramento, though some deal with national clients and issues.
“Clearly, the distinction is not that significant,” said Stephen Weissman of the Campaign Finance Institute, a nonpartisan think tank that focuses on campaign issues.
“He gets an asterisk that says he is trying to be different,” Weissman said. “But overall, the same wealthy interests are funding his campaign as are funding other candidates, whether or not they are lobbyists.”
http://www.commondreams.org/ar…..04/22/681/
New watertiger upstairs!
Monday Late Nite: You gotta fight for your rights!
In response to SKY1
Your post was well written but disappointing in two ways. First, I’d expected to see an afirmative argument for Senator Clinton. It was not there because, second, you focused on providing misinformation on Senator Obama. In the Huffington Post, Arianna Huffington’s column this afternoon listed and rebutted the many false charges Sen. Clinton’s has made against Sen. Obama . The following exerpt refutes your specific characterization of Senator Obama’s record on abortion rights.
It is these kind of misleading attacks that have resulted in Sen. Obama’s substantial lead in the polls. While I deeply respect Sen. Clinton and her years of service, this Rovian turn she is taking does not serve her or the Democratic Party.
I will support Senator Obama on Feb.5th.
is there video of that?
I’ll have a double sigh, please, bartender.
And I’m sorry. Planned Parenthood and NARAL lost the right to put the “pro-choice stamp of approval” on anything when they sent out those mailers telling their members to thank Joe Lieberman for his vote to put Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court. To grant them that authority is positively ahistoric.
There is definitely a double standard going on here. If Hillary Clinton tried that old “the dog ate my Senate schedule” excuse for missing Kyl-Lieberman (when there was evidence to the contrary), there would be spew alerts everywhere.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/01…..-misogyny/
Kiddo In the McGovern post (the all time best for me including Bob’s explanation) it also put a song back in my heart. Below you said you lived in the city SF and supported Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern.
I went over to Berkeley and participated as well. I worked for OM…organic Merchants in Richmond neighborhood. Filmore West, a fantastic time for politics and music. I was there earlier for the Beat generation. City Lights bookstore it was so great. It was a mind expanding experience in more ways that I can count. Cultural (Renasaince Fair), intellectual and political even became a Buhddist Mountain Climber. Why Oklahoma?
I don’t either–i’ve been voting since 84, and don’t remember this kind of overt shunning of a mainstream and viable candidate ever before.
Edwards really is a threat to their bosses (and them too, if they’re rich).
The rich, through their media, show their distrust of Edwards and in so doing show their disregard for Democracy. They are undoing America.
Another arrogant, but uninformed Obama supporter no doubt.
Edwards isn’t currently in the senate. Sigh.
They still can’t get over having won the Civil War.
Geez, can’t we find some smarter nicer people somewhere in America?
Hillary has been working on children’s and women’s advocacy since the 60’s, including academic work, lawyering, board work, starting up foundations and legislation. This is who she is, and I don’t think she’s gotten enough credit for it. One comment she made a while back was “women make lists”, and I think that produces a thoroughness and discipline in her – she gets back to people, details don’t fall through the cracks, she stays focused – I think that would correct some of the biggest problems seen from Bill’s administration. The comments on thehillaryiknow.com support the anger from her debate appearance – she remembers particular people and helps out individually as well as on smaller and larger legislation initiatives. This isn’t just something she’s planning on doing. Her time in the Senate has been a good finishing school for her, coming in with a rather negative reputation and low expectations and turning that around with patient steady work.
I wanted my comment above to stand on its own.
But I also think there’s an inherent sexism at work, in that work on women’s and children’s issues doesn’t rise to the star level of “Civil Rights”, even though it’s about much the same thing. Many of us remember the little girls killed in Birmingham 45 years ago, but how many remember the bombings, arson, shootings and stabbings at abortion clinics over the last 15 years? Reducing poverty often means combining job programs, education, health care and childcare solutions for single mothers, though our macho idea of “good jobs” seems to always be about manufacturing jobs and assembly lines. Getting out the black vote is considered a noble effort, whereas getting out women’s vote is often considered sexist and unnecessary – “playing the gender card”.
Thank you for mentioning a “clothespin”. I had wondered how I was going to vote if Obama is the candidate and I entered the voting booth holding my nose with both hands. Thanks to you I have the solution.
“Electing Obama will also send a very clear message to the wider world; Not all Americans are batshit crazy racists and bigots,”
Just wait for the Harold Ford redux and get back with me. Sadly, it doesn’t
take but a few batshit crazy racists, to prove to the wider world that this country has completely gone off the tracks.
The Republicans for over a quarter century,have picked their leader, based on the solidarity and support of the most reactionary elements of society and have empowered same, well beyond their numbers.
This group is not going to go quietly into the wilderness and I doubt that Murdoch’s minions can resist the urge to rattle their cages.