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		<title>By: jackie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1190774</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excuse me, but as a very strong, politically aware woman who has cried out of anger, out of tiredness, out of the pure meanness of people and because I have been told/shown that I am just’ a woman and my feelings are just weakness/hormones and mean nothing.&lt;br /&gt;
I really resent the ’cause of women, indeed, Grow up’ comment.&lt;br /&gt;
We are all trying to make this country/world a better place for all who come after us, but if we lose or have taken from us, our ability to show emotion/humanity then all is really lost.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but as a very strong, politically aware woman who has cried out of anger, out of tiredness, out of the pure meanness of people and because I have been told/shown that I am just’ a woman and my feelings are just weakness/hormones and mean nothing.<br />
I really resent the ’cause of women, indeed, Grow up’ comment.<br />
We are all trying to make this country/world a better place for all who come after us, but if we lose or have taken from us, our ability to show emotion/humanity then all is really lost.</p>
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		<title>By: anonosassin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1190448</link>
		<dc:creator>anonosassin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Lily15@231&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lily15@231&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    Nothing makes me angrier than somebdy being so foolishly genital-centric as to think that the cause of WOMEN is the most important thing at stake here.  The survival of America as something other than a corporate plaything is what is at stake here.  And Edwards is the only plausible champion to save us all in that battle.  Don’t worry, little girl, he won’t do anything to jeopardize Roe v. Wade.  But you should worry that Clinton (or Obama, for that matter), won’t to anything significant to curb the corporations.  What good is your right to abortion if we all get treated as insects by the corporations?  Shallow, selfish, and short-sighted, all at the same time.  The “cause of women,” indeed!  Grow up.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p><a href="mailto:Lily15@231" rel="nofollow">Lily15@231</a></p>
<p>    Nothing makes me angrier than somebdy being so foolishly genital-centric as to think that the cause of WOMEN is the most important thing at stake here.  The survival of America as something other than a corporate plaything is what is at stake here.  And Edwards is the only plausible champion to save us all in that battle.  Don’t worry, little girl, he won’t do anything to jeopardize Roe v. Wade.  But you should worry that Clinton (or Obama, for that matter), won’t to anything significant to curb the corporations.  What good is your right to abortion if we all get treated as insects by the corporations?  Shallow, selfish, and short-sighted, all at the same time.  The “cause of women,” indeed!  Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189914</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 15:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;She got emotional for herself. She sees the nomination slipping away and choked up. No gender war. Like her male counterparts, she does not lack grandiosity and she certainly is as dishonest as the worst of them. Her lovey dovey connections with Bill, the hand holding, the looks which she has done for years have got to be fake. She wants to be president for the same reason men want to be president. They want to go down in history. They want power. They want to fill their inner emptiness. Anyone willing to surrender so much for the job has got to be too crazy to do it well.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She got emotional for herself. She sees the nomination slipping away and choked up. No gender war. Like her male counterparts, she does not lack grandiosity and she certainly is as dishonest as the worst of them. Her lovey dovey connections with Bill, the hand holding, the looks which she has done for years have got to be fake. She wants to be president for the same reason men want to be president. They want to go down in history. They want power. They want to fill their inner emptiness. Anyone willing to surrender so much for the job has got to be too crazy to do it well.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189843</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes people make assumptions about race and don’t realize the hurtfulness of it. Ex: Asian drivers suck or Asian food is smelly. It’s so pervasive, people don’t realize the bigotry of it.&lt;br /&gt;
On a side note: You might want to head over to the Watson/Moyers interview at PBS or go toBlackAgendareport.com, because for a guy who “tears up” over the civil rights movement, Obama is pretty far from MLK, and in fact doesn’t believe Jena 6 or New Orleans are racial issues. There’s actually an article on Black agenda report comparing both Obama and MLK, and showing how badly Obama comes up short, with his love of big business and all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes people make assumptions about race and don’t realize the hurtfulness of it. Ex: Asian drivers suck or Asian food is smelly. It’s so pervasive, people don’t realize the bigotry of it.<br />
On a side note: You might want to head over to the Watson/Moyers interview at PBS or go toBlackAgendareport.com, because for a guy who “tears up” over the civil rights movement, Obama is pretty far from MLK, and in fact doesn’t believe Jena 6 or New Orleans are racial issues. There’s actually an article on Black agenda report comparing both Obama and MLK, and showing how badly Obama comes up short, with his love of big business and all.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189834</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Now that *is* good. Please tell me it’s true.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that *is* good. Please tell me it’s true.</p>
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		<title>By: bobh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189827</link>
		<dc:creator>bobh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hillary was merely reacting to a touching display of personal concern by a supporter; the emotion is entirely understandable and human, given the withering hostility and abuse she endures.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can imagine male candidates doing the same, but it would not be thought unusual or indicative of unfitness to lead.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary was merely reacting to a touching display of personal concern by a supporter; the emotion is entirely understandable and human, given the withering hostility and abuse she endures.</p>
<p>I can imagine male candidates doing the same, but it would not be thought unusual or indicative of unfitness to lead.</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189826</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;pdate: Amanda Marcotte pulls her support from John Edwards and switches it to Obama over Edwards’ remarks. (h/t rc) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish I had the luxury to switch over remarks (reported how, for what reason?), but I don’t. After Dodd left the field and since Kucinich’s chances are zero, Edwards is the only candidate I can stomach. The Hilary/Obama free trade love, corporate candidate thing forces me to stay with Edwards. At any rate, Obama may have been thinking the same thing, the same way he whips up the normal voters with “change” but doesn’t tell his audiences that he’s a fan of free trade and corporations in general.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>pdate: Amanda Marcotte pulls her support from John Edwards and switches it to Obama over Edwards’ remarks. (h/t rc) </p>
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<p>I wish I had the luxury to switch over remarks (reported how, for what reason?), but I don’t. After Dodd left the field and since Kucinich’s chances are zero, Edwards is the only candidate I can stomach. The Hilary/Obama free trade love, corporate candidate thing forces me to stay with Edwards. At any rate, Obama may have been thinking the same thing, the same way he whips up the normal voters with “change” but doesn’t tell his audiences that he’s a fan of free trade and corporations in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Arcparser</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189806</link>
		<dc:creator>Arcparser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 13:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Patronizing, sexist, jerk?”  Excuse me?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is not the time to buying into whatever spin the MSM chooses to couch the little press they afford the only progressive remaining in the race with any chance of receiving the nomination.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;JRE was in a no-win situation with the question that was posed to him.&lt;br /&gt;
He reacted cautiously, but appropriately for someone on the eve of a competitive primary. If he gave a more nurturing response I would have found that sexist and more patronizing, not what he ended up saying. I wouldn’t expect him to have been more touchy feely with someone like Giuliani, so why should he be that way with Hillary? So he gives a gender neutral, though appropriately competitive response and gets branded a misogynist by some of the leading lights of the progressive movement. Disappointing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Patronizing, sexist, jerk?”  Excuse me?</p>
<p>This is not the time to buying into whatever spin the MSM chooses to couch the little press they afford the only progressive remaining in the race with any chance of receiving the nomination.</p>
<p>JRE was in a no-win situation with the question that was posed to him.<br />
He reacted cautiously, but appropriately for someone on the eve of a competitive primary. If he gave a more nurturing response I would have found that sexist and more patronizing, not what he ended up saying. I wouldn’t expect him to have been more touchy feely with someone like Giuliani, so why should he be that way with Hillary? So he gives a gender neutral, though appropriately competitive response and gets branded a misogynist by some of the leading lights of the progressive movement. Disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: sentinel</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189747</link>
		<dc:creator>sentinel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jane: we will see more of this rubbish. I must say I am disappointed with Mika Bre: she seems to have become a regular member of the punditry and joins the boys in their fun.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jane: we will see more of this rubbish. I must say I am disappointed with Mika Bre: she seems to have become a regular member of the punditry and joins the boys in their fun.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinHayden</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/feel-the-misogyny/#comment-1189732</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinHayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 12:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Edwards made no reference to her gender in any way. He made a statement that could be construed as a dig at an opponent, but  I don’t see the sexism in it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, because of the media spin, the rightwing pouncers and all the so-called liberals tossing in their misogynist attacks, I bet JRE regrets saying anything. Now he’s being accused of sexism for an entirely political remark.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edwards made no reference to her gender in any way. He made a statement that could be construed as a dig at an opponent, but  I don’t see the sexism in it. </p>
<p>However, because of the media spin, the rightwing pouncers and all the so-called liberals tossing in their misogynist attacks, I bet JRE regrets saying anything. Now he’s being accused of sexism for an entirely political remark.</p>
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