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	<title>Comments on: Sunday Late Nite: Joshua Hoyt tells the GOP, That Dog Won&#8217;t Hunt</title>
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		<title>By: billw</title>
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		<dc:creator>billw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I had to search for a link to Josh Hoyt’s op-ed, as I didn’t see a link to it in TsddySF’s post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-080105immigration-oped-story,0,2544779.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Immigration issue fizzles again&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
By Joshua Hoyt&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to search for a link to Josh Hoyt’s op-ed, as I didn’t see a link to it in TsddySF’s post.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-080105immigration-oped-story,0,2544779.story" rel="nofollow"><strong>Immigration issue fizzles again</strong><br />
By Joshua Hoyt</a></p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know the story as PARC was one of my internal accounts so I got to meet many of the players. Xerox screwed the pooch on that one! Great product but way over priced for the apps 20k plus. Of course Xerox was and still is run by a bunch of toner heads in Rochester NY. In the early days we always traveled first class now the service reps don’t even have a territory as their own, the customers never get the same tech twice. Still have a lot of friends there and we keep in touch.&lt;br /&gt;
I will check out the book as I haven’t read it yet but I need to get through Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Too much on the computer and not enough reading whats a guy going to do?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The book is around in used bookstores for a few bucks and it’s great.   Probably a chapter on the site or Amazon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Xerox PARC still is coming out with cutting edge stuff. I remember seeing a demo of liquid newspaper in a tube that changed every day I think that is their invetion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The book is the history of software and the development of the PC and has interesting (to me) chapters on Gates growing up, Gates and Allen riding their bikes to a company to critique the programs written by adults as 13 and 15 year-old kids, the early years, Mipps, where Gates had a falling out with a guy over selling the computer to him (generation clash) who later became a family physician in Georgia and told 60 Minutes he never regretted the choice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But you were there and you lived some of this. &lt;/em&gt; I like software and computers as a hobby.  What perspective you must have.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know the story as PARC was one of my internal accounts so I got to meet many of the players. Xerox screwed the pooch on that one! Great product but way over priced for the apps 20k plus. Of course Xerox was and still is run by a bunch of toner heads in Rochester NY. In the early days we always traveled first class now the service reps don’t even have a territory as their own, the customers never get the same tech twice. Still have a lot of friends there and we keep in touch.<br />
I will check out the book as I haven’t read it yet but I need to get through Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Too much on the computer and not enough reading whats a guy going to do?</p>
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<p>The book is around in used bookstores for a few bucks and it’s great.   Probably a chapter on the site or Amazon.</p>
<p>Xerox PARC still is coming out with cutting edge stuff. I remember seeing a demo of liquid newspaper in a tube that changed every day I think that is their invetion.</p>
<p>The book is the history of software and the development of the PC and has interesting (to me) chapters on Gates growing up, Gates and Allen riding their bikes to a company to critique the programs written by adults as 13 and 15 year-old kids, the early years, Mipps, where Gates had a falling out with a guy over selling the computer to him (generation clash) who later became a family physician in Georgia and told 60 Minutes he never regretted the choice.</p>
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But you were there and you lived some of this. </em> I like software and computers as a hobby.  What perspective you must have.</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I know the story as PARC was one of my internal accounts so I got to meet many of the players. Xerox screwed the pooch on that one! Great product but way over priced for the apps 20k plus. Of course Xerox was and still is run by a bunch of toner heads in Rochester NY. In the early days we always traveled first class now the service reps don’t even have a territory as their own, the customers never get the same tech twice. Still have a lot of friends there and we keep in touch.&lt;br /&gt;
I will check out the book as I haven’t read it yet but I need to get through Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Too much on the computer and not enough reading whats a guy going to do?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the story as PARC was one of my internal accounts so I got to meet many of the players. Xerox screwed the pooch on that one! Great product but way over priced for the apps 20k plus. Of course Xerox was and still is run by a bunch of toner heads in Rochester NY. In the early days we always traveled first class now the service reps don’t even have a territory as their own, the customers never get the same tech twice. Still have a lot of friends there and we keep in touch.<br />
I will check out the book as I haven’t read it yet but I need to get through Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Too much on the computer and not enough reading whats a guy going to do?</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nahant, I’m way north of you.  I wrote a longer reply that got lost when the new thread loaded.  ugh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;hey, I’m going to get fire in the valley.  that sounds interesting PeteP.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nahant, I’m way north of you.  I wrote a longer reply that got lost when the new thread loaded.  ugh.</p>
<p>hey, I’m going to get fire in the valley.  that sounds interesting PeteP.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Suz is upstairs with some cool tunes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Have her find out what brand they will be using. We will be voting by mail, saves the hassle of any last minuet issues. Once you sign up for voting by mail they will continue to send the ballots to you by mail. Try you’ll like it!&lt;br /&gt;
In Oregon everyone votes by mail at least that what my oldest son tells me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have her find out what brand they will be using. We will be voting by mail, saves the hassle of any last minuet issues. Once you sign up for voting by mail they will continue to send the ballots to you by mail. Try you’ll like it!<br />
In Oregon everyone votes by mail at least that what my oldest son tells me.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;What Os are you using? A mac. I have inherent hatred of macs, I used to work for Xerox when the first Lisa came out. I was servicing the Xerox Star.. Jobs stole the GUI and the mouse from the Small talk OS at Xerox PARC&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LOL–There were a lotta people lining up to steal from Xerox park and each other including Jobs and Gates.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Have you read &lt;em&gt;Fire in the Valley?&lt;/em&gt; There are a million books but it’s one ov my faves.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fireinthevalley.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fire in the Valley&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What Os are you using? A mac. I have inherent hatred of macs, I used to work for Xerox when the first Lisa came out. I was servicing the Xerox Star.. Jobs stole the GUI and the mouse from the Small talk OS at Xerox PARC</p>
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<p>LOL–There were a lotta people lining up to steal from Xerox park and each other including Jobs and Gates.</p>
<p>Have you read <em>Fire in the Valley?</em> There are a million books but it’s one ov my faves.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.fireinthevalley.com/" rel="nofollow">Fire in the Valley</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: ChristineEdmonson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChristineEdmonson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;58 and major fog, tomorrow 59!  Our daughter is arriving tomorrow in this. Yikes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58 and major fog, tomorrow 59!  Our daughter is arriving tomorrow in this. Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 06:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seriously?  Like what did you have in mind?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;She does have to attend some additional training for a new voting machine.  And don’t forget: SF was suing the machine company for sending the wrong machines for the last election (mayoral, etc.).  SF had to ship the proper ones from San Jose and elsewhere.  Maybe I should have her take a picture of the machines!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?  Like what did you have in mind?</p>
<p>She does have to attend some additional training for a new voting machine.  And don’t forget: SF was suing the machine company for sending the wrong machines for the last election (mayoral, etc.).  SF had to ship the proper ones from San Jose and elsewhere.  Maybe I should have her take a picture of the machines!</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 05:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;dosido  where do you live? I am in RWC very near Atherton. We go for walks over there just so we can drool at the McMansions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dosido  where do you live? I am in RWC very near Atherton. We go for walks over there just so we can drool at the McMansions.</p>
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