In his Chicago Tribune op-ed today, Joshua Hoyt, Blue America ally and Executive Director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, runs the numbers on immigrant-bashing in the Iowa GOP caucuses, and finds that the haters lost. Big.
On the Republican side, Romney, despite his overwhelming funding advantage, came up short. University of Iowa polls showed that 57 percent of Iowa voters favored earned citizenship for the undocumented and only 23 percent favored deportation.
Despite the bad advice the GOP got in 2006 and 2007, candidates are still taking that advice in 2008. It's not working.
Immigrant bashing just does not move votes. The 2006 elections were a disaster for anti-immigrant demagoguery. Not only did the issue fail to stave off the Republican loss of the House and Senate, but leading Republican anti-immigrant campaigners such as Reps. J.D. Hayworth of Arizona and John Hostettler of Indiana and Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania all lost their races. And in a telling portent of the future, Latino support for the GOP dropped to 26 percent from 44 percent.
Last November, Republicans trotted out their anti-immigrant dog again, trying to gain ground in Virginia and take advantage of Gov. Eliot Spitzer's botched attempt to grant driver's licenses to the undocumented in New York. The results: Democrats took the House of Delegates in Virginia and the Republican assault in New York was negligible.
And in 2008, the GOP rejected the one-issue candidate whose issue was immigrant-bashing.
Tom Tancredo, a backbench congressman who appears to live only to bully immigrants, ran a commercial that claimed, "Islamic terrorists now freely roam U.S. soil," and ended with a backpack exploding in a shopping mall. The Colorado Republican congressman's "Before-it's-too-late" campaign to terrorize us into electing him president was thankfully interrupted by his withdrawal from the race, but Tancredo endorsed Mitt Romney on the way out.
Romney was a worthy recipient of the Tancredo mantle because Romney ran commercials that aired more than 12,000 times, mostly in Iowa and New Hampshire, promising to be rough and tough when it comes to illegal immigration. Romney used the debates and his commercials to blast his challengers, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Huckabee, for being soft on illegal immigrants. (All the while, Romney suffered from that peculiar hypocritical blindness that this issue seems to engender. Romney, it turns out, once employed a landscaper who used undocumented workers to landscape Romney's stately Massachusetts home. Romney continued to use the landscaping firm after that was reported, but dismissed the company when it was caught a second time using undocumented gardeners.)
Giuliani and Huckabee quickly turned themselves into political pretzels, trying to be what they had never been in real life: tough, enforcement-first upholders of our broken immigration "rule of law." Only McCain tried to maintain his self-respect on the issue.
The results are in. In a state where voters had a clear choice to vote for Romney's tough stance on illegal immigration in the Republican caucuses, they instead turned out in historic numbers to vote Democratic. There they picked Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), who has unabashedly advocated an earned path to citizenship for the undocumented.
Watching the men who make up the GOP field last night, I realized they know this issue won't win for them. How many times did Mitt Romney sing out the praises of legal immigrants, speaking very clearly so no one would hear him wrong? The GOP knows they can't continue on this path, but they can't stop themselves either: they saw how right-wing radio and the bigotsphere excoriated their colleagues on Capitol Hill last summer on the issue. Each and every one is terrified he will be next.
Is there a take-home lesson that Republican leaders and politicians should learn from Iowa? Yes. Voters are concerned about our broken immigration system, but they want sensible solutions, not just loud barks from a toothless hunting dog.
Predictably, there's lots of ALL CAPS commentary denouncing this sensible analysis in the Trib's comments section, so if you can take an opportunity, please lend a good word to our ally Josh Hoyt in his attempt to bring rationality to the discussion.
And -- let's remind Speaker Pelosi, Rahm Emanuel, and Chris Van Hollen at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee that this issue must not be demagogued, plain and simple. And that Americans don't vote for candidates who bash immigrants.
Here's my email to Nancy, Rahm, and Chris, which you are welcome to crib if you like:
Please stop telling Democratic Congresspersons (and Congressional candidates) to demagogue on immigration. The Iowa caucuses prove that immigrant-bashing doesn't play with the voters. Americans want a clear path to citizenship for immigrants, not deportation.
For more information, I recommend Joshua Hoyt's excellent opinion piece in today's Chicago Tribune, which can be found here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-080105immigration-oped-story,0,1664188,print.story
Thank you for your service to the Democratic party and to the United States of America.
Sincerely,
TeddySanFran
Really -- let's be sure Democrats don't co-opt an issue for which even Republican voters reject their own candidates.
That dog won't hunt for us, either.
(h/t Pachacutec)
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Great piece Teddy.
Teddy is that you or Joshua Hoyt??
Any one hear from Suz??
That’s Joshua Hoyt. The avatars don’t show up when I use a picture, so my little bear pic is missing.
Thanks, diablesseblu.
Great piece, Teddy!
(and good news, too)
Hi Teddy, driving by really quickly and sorry to go OT briefly, but did you read Li’l Debbie today?
Hi Kirk, thanks, it’s very good news, isn’t it? I hope it sinks into the heads of The Beltway Dems.
Every-week doses of Debbie really make Sunday night constipated, don’t you think LL? I did read her column, though, and I howled. No link, but — jeez, she doesn’t understand how often Post reporters grant anonymity?
I wouldn’t hold my breath… They seem to have a tin ear in regards to the hoi polloi… ;-)
But Rahm ‘The Rabbit’ says that’s one hell of a dog! That that’s the purtiest dog he evah did see him. That he’s gonna run that there hound to git him a SuperMarjority! Yeah, SuperMajority!
Obama gits the nod and McCain/HuckaBee! are gonna go huntin’ and next thing it’l bee a big Ol Rabbit skin pegged out on the barn door. And once more the Dems will be scratchin’ their heads and wonderin’ ‘What happened’ I had ‘em right in my sights!
Thanks to ‘The Rabbit’ and Miss Nancy and ‘SellOut’ Reid you can kiss yer ‘SuperMajority’ goodbye no matter who ends up in the WH.
Kudos to Mr. Hoyt for the great work he’s doing. We should all try and support him and throw the gotdamned ‘Rabbit’ as far out of office as we can.
Oh I know, Teddy, she gets sufficient coverage here *g* It’s just that when I read it this morning, I thought of you and chuckled ;-)
I’ve noticed that this and the gay-panic thing have lost their electoral luster for the GOP. The time to put various anti-immigrant and anti-gay measures onto state ballots for November is drawing nigh, and the Republicans are desperate for ways to goose turnout of their voting base. Yet so far, I’ve yet to hear of a single ballot measure anywhere for the November elections.
Teddy, your little bear is there - it publishes on the front page - just not on the individual post page.
The repubs thrive and hate and anger. It’s driving them out of office but they don’t seem to notice. Fine with me.
Today on Sam Seder’s show, one of the guests said that the breakdown of party choice of young voters in Iowa was 80% Dem and 20% Repub. Did I hear that right? Did anyone else hear something like that? I was sure they were joking, but they didn’t act like it. It seems too good to be true.
Former Sen. Gravel raised some eyebrows in NH today when speaking at a highschool he encouraged the students not to ‘trip out on alcohol’….he told them to smoke weed instead.
-G
thank you, Teddy! I remember i am descended from immigrants.
Dear Bill and Hillary,
Thanks for the bridge to the 21st Century. We’ll take it from here.
KK Bai…
When I was in high school my doctor told me the same thing.
Actually, it was the Virginia State Senate, not the House of Delegates, but that’s just a quibble. Also, to add one more to the list of years, the GOP candidate for governor in 2005 demagogued about immigration, and it didn’t do him any good either.
AC — we must ensure that Our Party runs on what we, and most Americans, believe in. Not what Rahm cooks up with his corporatist buddies.
Thanks Suzanne, and hi!
For all the attention and airplay (read: Lou Dobbs) it’s received, if immigration was an issue with any traction, it would have gained traction by now. it’s part and parcel of the Republican fear package being peddled. definitely not us. too many real issues that people cafe about and directly affect them more than immigration.
good post, TSF.
Suzanne, you made it! *waves*
This issue is all part of the ‘look at the shiny shit’ strategy. Looket thim immigrints takin’ yer jawbs!
-G
You’re back! With electricity and internets and everything! So you and Token weathered the storm ok?
Suz! Yer Back!!!
Welcome back Suz :-)
Welcome home Suz!
RShift, I wondered when I read that if it was right, and I’m glad you noted the correction. It didn’t seem right to me that the House of Delegates turned Democratic, but I didn’t want to challenge Joshua without looking it up.
ndfg — You are right, we are all descended from immigrants, and just because there were fewer people here, with a less-well-developed sense of real property laws, is no reason to treat new immigrants as badly as the GOP candidates want to. I mean, deportation? How’s that going to work, exactly? And who wants to pay $20 a head for lettuce the next day?
Welcome back, Suzanne.
Glad the electrons found their way back to you and Token
Mike Gravel - the candidate who didn’t exhale…
PW @13:
Yet so far, I’ve yet to hear of a single ballot measure anywhere for the November elections.
In November 2008, Florida will have the Florida Marriage Protection Amendment to the state constitution on the ballot.
Hey suzanne.
Josh Hoyt is a lion.
Thanks for writing this up, Teddy.
The Bong Hit Express.
-G
maybe the Republicans are trying to destroy our country so that it is no longer a desirable destination for anyone, thereby saving it from the teeming hordes /s
greetings from SoCal… still raining… :-/
Yay Suz!
Suzanne! Finally got power… thats great! No damage I hope, I spoke to my daughter up in grass Valley and they are still without power. This am their house was only 42 degrees F.
Are ready for the next one on Tuesday?
The illegal immigrant thing is easy to solve. It’s called MINIMUM WAGE, and it’s already the law. The goppers just want to blame the victims, and not punish the supporters of their party.
The longer the immigrant issue is “pushed” the longer the opportunity there has been to kill off the myths about it. The idea that immigrants “don’t pay taxes” or are collecting Social Security (when they are actually contributing to the fund but are NOT collecting) have been utterly discredited. And as McCain pointed out in the debate current undocumented workers would have to pay some sort of fine and/or restitution.
The latest absurd lie is that undocumented immigrants are responsible for the sub-prime collapse…that THEY were the irresponsible borrowers that have not met their payment schedules and foreclosed. But that is so phoney that anyone with a lick of sense would see through it. How would these undocumented workers establish their identities, residency and credit worthiness? Most send their surplus income back to Mexico, or elsewhere…where homes are cheaper and they wouldn’t risk losing those “impossible to own” hiomes if they were ever caught by the INS!
In one of the brief times when I turned the sound on in the GOP debate, Giuliani actually seemed to be talking about half of an actual real solution for immigration. Specifically, he was talking about trying to make it so that people wouldn’t want to come here illegally.
Of course, since he’s a gooper, he meant by making it unbearable for them to be here, rather than by making it more attractive to work in their home countries. The GOP is the Punishment Party. Every problem can be solved by punishing someone, you just have to pick who.
wow. that’s bad. makes me feel like quite the wuss for whining about the cold down in FL last week.
In Oregon the anti gay folks tried to get an initiative on the Nov ballot, but fell 116 signatures short. Civil unions were passed by the legislature and were supposed to be available on Jan 1st (or 2nd) but a conservative judge issued an injunction, so it’s on hold. The anti gays are scrambling to get more signatures admitted.
we got 9.02 inches of rain starting thur nite and ending fri nite. got another 1.50 saturday, rained on and off today. power went off 0600 fri am and came back on around 0500 this morning. has gone off twice this afternoon (eyes rolling). token complains that he is not a duck and bailey the cat gives me dirty looks as if i can make it stop raining. house has gas furnace and gas stove so i was warm and able to cook.
what’s up in Oregon? not as blue as i thought? that’s very close to getting that measure on the ballot. is that easy to do? and that health care amendment got rejected - that drew alot of ins co $$$.
They better strap into their seats on Wall St.
weeeeeeeeee……
-G
Wow. 10.5 inches of rain in 2 days? Token would be happier if he was a duck. Don’t you love having gas? It makes it so much easier when the power does go out.
LOL — The Punishment Party.
Betcha Judi Nathan can tell us more about that, too….
Hey BFl thye had run out of propane also, they had taken the kids to play in the snow and when they got back the propane had been delivered but with a small generator they are having to chose between the fridge and tv or plug in the blower for the propane powered fireplace. I told her to have her hubby wait till the frige stop cycling and plug in the dam blower. What a choice tv or keeping warm. Of course the kids want the tv. Ah the joys of modern life.:):)
Token sez quack!
work tomorrow. kids back top school. gotta run. i guess jane’s gone, but if ya see her tell her that was a grrrrr-eat book salon today. i liked it anyway. oh yeah, and tell her that and that i vote for quaaludes, too. glad suzanne our
peerlessfearless leader is back.Go Edwards!!!! In it to the convention!!!!
Quiz Time!
Which Republican Presidential candidate had Grandparents that were two-generation Mexican citizens…who violated US laws and fled to Mexico to evade prosecution, taking refuge in a commune filled with similar criminals?
Hint…his father was born in Mexico and because of the above may not have held US citizenship but lived his life without anyone challenging his status. Fortunately for the candidate, he is an “anchor baby”…born in the United States.
The Portland metro area is extremely blue. The rest of the state, not so much. There was a brief time when gay marriages were performed here, but the anti gays succeeded with an initiative to ban them. They said at the time that civil unions didn’t bother them at all, just no gay marriage. That was 2004.
So the state legislature passes civil unions and the anti’s got their undies in a wad and collected signatures to stop it. Hard to believe they’re a bunch of hypocrites, huh?
But they couldn’t quite find enough haters. So they found a conservative judge to help them out.
Richardson??
e-z choice. The New York Football Giants were on. Gloves and scarves and hates never hurt anybody.
But seriously, that sucks. better now?
Willard.
Whats new
Nope…REPUBLICAN Candidate!
Interesting. Immigrant bashing isn’t working, and hating teh gays isn’t working so well either. Poor repubs. /snark
No still no power as of an hour ago. they were talking of getting his mothers gas generator 5KW for the night. She has power. Hope they got it!!
Details details Aw shit!
Hypocrites they are. The anti-gay marriage amendment will probabaly pass here. We already have an amendment prohibiting gay people from adopting. Buncha troglodytes down here.
Was it mittie
Suuuuuzzzzzzzzzz!
Hey, I couldn’t wait for you to come back. If you want to risk losing your power again you can watch a FauxNews interview of HuffPost’s “liberal blogger” Roy Sekoff take on the Billo/Obama thingie! It was awesome. He even worked in an MFing iced tea joke. Great stuff.
And yeah, they did NOT call him a foul-mouth femblogger, darn.
I still say Willard.
Are you in FL? That’s the only state I know of that bans adoptions by gays.
someone answer this already? Mittster.
Hope so. when is this gonna be over?
The Romney family lived in Mexico for quite a while. Weren’t they hiding from the law or something?
Beerfart wins some Grecian Formula
Yeah. Me too. I’m from NJ where the state has placed kids from foster care with gay parents, so it’s, uh, different here.
The SF Chamber of Commerce filed an amicus brief with Out & Equal Workplace Advocates and Levi’s in favor of the equal marriage cases here. Their logic is that California will lose talent to Massachusetts and Canada unless we permit marriage. When like-minded business people see a brain drain out of Florida, the haters will lose their advantage.
It’s all about the Benjamins.
Great!!!! I’m Ok on top-a little thin. But my beard is grey. it’ll work there, right?
Bingo! Willard’s Grandparents and Great-grandparents were polygamist refugees from Utah into Mexico where they established a cult commune so they could continue shebanging loads of nubile young Mormonettes. Because they left the territory before it was a state their status may not have technically have been “illegal”…but at the same time they may not have been US Citizens. They acquired Mexican citizenship, however, as did George…who was born in Mexico. He moved “back” to the US as a boy, although his citizenship was questionable, married and had Willard. Thus Willard is thus half Mexican (actually more “Mexican” than Richardson, I believe), and provided his Dad with anchor status.
George Romney ran for President and there were questions raised about his status to be President…but the deeper question regarding his ancestral citizenship was never even looked at deeply!
wow! 9 inches of rain??!! ‘at’s a lotta rain! We are working on 3.5″ in the last 24 hours… so wet, but not nearly that wet…
Gawd, I hope they can fuck up Dallas and beat the odds.
HATE Dallas.
I guess so. Ask Willard!
Ther is another big one coming in tuesday according to local ABC here. But it will take a lot to match Fridays fun.
Oh they were getting 90 to 100 MPH wind they know of 3 places close to them where either the power pole was snapped or trees took out the lines. Well when you live in the hills and the woods what do you want. But of course they had to go there just to buy a house. Couldn’t do it here on the peninsular!
Do you think he needs it:):)
Oof! Only the Norwegians posted a gain… Basically, a 2% loss in all other markets…
nice turn of phrase…
the tradition continues, I believe. I forget the guy that was just on trial for doing the same thing…crrreeeepy!
Speaking of amicus briefs… when the gay marriage case was before the NJ supreme court there were tons of ‘em from “family values” legal organizations saying that gay marriage was bad for child rearing. this in a state that places foster kids in homes with gays. right out of the box one of the justices asked the deputy ag defending the gay marriage ban if he was relying on any of the “child rearing” arguments advanced by amici. answer: “no.” what a waste of paper and ink (and court time and resources) all those briefs were.
No, it was a prize in honor of Willard. I think Mitt must use it, except on those hot sideburns he sports.
me too. 0-2 against them this year but they CAN do it. i’ll give my prediction later in the week.
OT-I’m going out of town for the week, and because I have an adorable 2 year old niece to play with, I’m not bringing my laptop. We’ll be too busy playing to spend time on the tubes. Being offline for a week will be odd, but it’ll be ok. I hope!
See everyone in a week. Keep your fingers crossed for me there’s aren’t any crying babies on the flight tonight. Maybe that’s why they call it the “red eye”.
What a creep! I have 3 daughters and people like make me want to load my old enfield rifle and do a little hunting!
SUZ! zippity doo dah zippity day my oh my…..
snoopy dancing -
I’d just like to link this post, that I thought was very interesting, and well done/thought provoking from EW today, on the New Hampshire primary and other election dynamics.
Also this election link is probably old news for most of you, but it has the latest polls in the primary states via mouseover, so it’s pretty handy–they get updated.
Empty Wheel Missing the Party January 6,2007
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
ae we talkin’ about CA?
Yes
I have been driving through South West Virginia and the wingnut radio is all about ”illegal alien migration’ from third world countries into the the US. That theme was accompanied by ”the next President will be Barak Mohammed Hussein Obama” who will open all of the US borders. The not so subtle appeal to lizard brain hate was disturbing.
We assume you are referring to “silly wabbit” hunting, no?
But of course! I haven’t hunted for any thing bigger:)
Ot The Bill’o confrontation at Edwards speech in NH. From Raw story:http://rawstory.com/news/2007/OReilly_uses_profanity_causes_incident_at_0105.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcMCiAGyIQ
oops need to put that pesky space in! http://rawstory.com/news/2007/....._0105.html
or Obama?
Teddy–
What the MSM misses, and I mean consistently is that the huge component of the Immigration problem, and you’ll never hear any of the Republicans preaching immigration “toughness” mention it, is that the INS is completely broken.
There is not any consistency from district to district either in processing time, red tape, and many law reviews have shown studies of inconsistency in the Courts.
To legally go through the immigration hurdles, it can take 10-15 years and that can limit the jobs that many of these people can get. INS personnel are routinely nasty–I’ve run interference for some of these people–lie to them about appointments, generally fuck with them, and like most federal bureaucratic bullies, are tough on people who have trouble with the language and no tools with which to defend themselves. The immigrants are their whipping boys–since they are the only people they’ll ever get a chance to pick on.
For example, if you’re seeking asylum based on evidence of a threat of harm in many of the Immigration Courts in Miami, a number of the judges will grant it at a 90% rate.
In Atlanta, the rate averages 5%.
During this current administration, Congress allowed DOJ to begin appointing immigration judges. The result was that Monica Goodling, the twit at DOJ was in charge of this. She vetted them, illegally asking if they were “good Bushies,” and she had no experience litigating a traffic ticket much less anything federal. She was out of the shittiest law school on the planet and fresh out. She was one of many on the resignation bus from DOJ, and one of the dumbest by far if not the dumbest.
This has resulted in a whole army of immigration judges who have had no experience with immigration law–think of Katrina hits the courts.
Ot the shit keeps coming on bushco:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....inionsbox1
Too bad McGovern didn’t get elected!
Oh shit too fast on the keyboard Obama is correct. Gee no one lets you get away with any thing here at the lake:)
Go to C&L to see Roy Sekoff take down billo on Faux News. Hilarious. It will make you feel good! Sorry I no linky
On my way be right back
same video and I just happened to catch the faux news piece last night on the tv Bill’o what pig headed lying blow hard.
I think AGAG gave her a serious run for the money, in that department… ;-)
And to think this is only one of the can’t get the mold stain out of the grout messes Bush is gonna leave us with as he heads to whatever Hole in the Wall to ride out War Crimes statute of limitations…
Paraguay, like all good fascists do…!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/.....n-foxnews/
try this.
And again sorry I am linky impaired. I could do it on the old interface and maybe it’s just my computer acting up, but links go lame when I try.
Doh,
The force is with me. When I don’t try to link, I can! it’s so zen.
We simply must have a President in 2009 who will review the appointment of every single civil servant, judge, immigrant judge, hearing officer and federal appointee with a jaundiced eye. If a buyout is required, we’ll need to do it, because the damage these imbeciles will do will last, and continue, for decades.
No “bygones” Presidencies like Clinton’s, please
Good evening dear friends. How are you all this fine night?