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	<title>Comments on: New Flag: Don&#8217;t Cough On Me</title>
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		<title>By: hawkseye36</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186622</link>
		<dc:creator>hawkseye36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 20:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;About ten years ago, I saw a person with AIDS interviewed by Charlie Rose.  The PW AIDS said he had given up flying because every time he did, his physician diagnosed him with TB.  The problem was that the airlines didn’t dry out and disinfect air ducts on planes.  I suspect that conditions are the same and that we are all, every time we fly, subject to contracting diseases that like that environment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About ten years ago, I saw a person with AIDS interviewed by Charlie Rose.  The PW AIDS said he had given up flying because every time he did, his physician diagnosed him with TB.  The problem was that the airlines didn’t dry out and disinfect air ducts on planes.  I suspect that conditions are the same and that we are all, every time we fly, subject to contracting diseases that like that environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186473</link>
		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this link, Allan.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this link, Allan.</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186460</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s highly unlikely that electronic medical rcords will do anything but cost more. IT is replete with projects where “projections” forecast a boatload of savings, and delivered more expense.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If one is sick enough that the medical record is relvant, then one has a serious problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They will be used to deny insurance coverage. I’ll repeat. Electronic medical records will be used to deny health insurance coverage.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only “savings” will be for the insurance comapany shareholders &amp; executives.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s highly unlikely that electronic medical rcords will do anything but cost more. IT is replete with projects where “projections” forecast a boatload of savings, and delivered more expense.</p>
<p>If one is sick enough that the medical record is relvant, then one has a serious problem.</p>
<p>They will be used to deny insurance coverage. I’ll repeat. Electronic medical records will be used to deny health insurance coverage.</p>
<p>The only “savings” will be for the insurance comapany shareholders &amp; executives.</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186450</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cut it out. You sound like Tom Tancredo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cut it out. You sound like Tom Tancredo.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186397</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is actually a recent, real report about chemical trails - check it out:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=7339345&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=7339345&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually a recent, real report about chemical trails &#8211; check it out:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=7339345" rel="nofollow">http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=7339345</a></p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186392</link>
		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for that. Among other lies, Americans are deceived into believing that they would have to wait until they are dead to receive care.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. Among other lies, Americans are deceived into believing that they would have to wait until they are dead to receive care.</p>
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		<title>By: peanutbutter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186378</link>
		<dc:creator>peanutbutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wonder what ever happened to big ol scary avian flu. I think V for Vendetta tore a hole in that scam. Another normal public health issue turned into an opportunity to make people afraid and make money off of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes it is a problem, but not one that should be making us hide under our beds.&lt;br /&gt;
reply&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hm?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as I can tell, the U.S. gov’t is in deep denial about the impact another influenza epidemic, as with the 1918-1919 one, would have on today’s world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In fact, I’m kind of surprised they *haven’t* tried to turn it into a fear mongering issue in order to control us.  I think their very silence is much more ominous than any political footballing of it would be.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a good site to start with&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fluwikie.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.fluwikie.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Wonder what ever happened to big ol scary avian flu. I think V for Vendetta tore a hole in that scam. Another normal public health issue turned into an opportunity to make people afraid and make money off of it.</p>
<p>Yes it is a problem, but not one that should be making us hide under our beds.<br />
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<p>Hm?</p>
<p>As far as I can tell, the U.S. gov’t is in deep denial about the impact another influenza epidemic, as with the 1918-1919 one, would have on today’s world.</p>
<p>In fact, I’m kind of surprised they *haven’t* tried to turn it into a fear mongering issue in order to control us.  I think their very silence is much more ominous than any political footballing of it would be.</p>
<p>Here’s a good site to start with<br />
<a href="http://www.fluwikie.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fluwikie.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jang</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186379</link>
		<dc:creator>jang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here in Ontario…great health plan.   No cost to visit your Dr.  No cost if you go to hospital.  More or less triage model of who gets care first..and can have longer than one would like wait for surgery perhaps in some locations,  but this is offset in my opinion, by the lack of worry about cost of an operation.&lt;br /&gt;
Re:  meds,  over 65 yrs coverage of many meds thu Ontario Drug Benefit. Costs pt dispensing fee only in  many cases.   Here in Ontario there are retrospective studies done on var disease states in order to assess which meds have worked most succussfully,  and modifications are made to the Ont Drug Formulary based on these criteria,  ie updates according to the latest info perhaps every few months.&lt;br /&gt;
For pts c low income and very high rx costs, there is the Trillium program which covers the same meds as the over 65 group, but with a sliding scale deductable according to a persons salary which is deducted when a person fills rx ie no upfront payment, but one pays the rx until the deductable is satisfied then the drug cost is free,  until another quarter rolls by.&lt;br /&gt;
Many people have private health plans from their work,  in some plans a person can choose how to structure their plan each year…ie my son opted out of dentists plan last year…until I said it is time to give Mother her birthday present and all go to the dentist.&lt;br /&gt;
We are really free from worry,,,&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Ontario…great health plan.   No cost to visit your Dr.  No cost if you go to hospital.  More or less triage model of who gets care first..and can have longer than one would like wait for surgery perhaps in some locations,  but this is offset in my opinion, by the lack of worry about cost of an operation.<br />
Re:  meds,  over 65 yrs coverage of many meds thu Ontario Drug Benefit. Costs pt dispensing fee only in  many cases.   Here in Ontario there are retrospective studies done on var disease states in order to assess which meds have worked most succussfully,  and modifications are made to the Ont Drug Formulary based on these criteria,  ie updates according to the latest info perhaps every few months.<br />
For pts c low income and very high rx costs, there is the Trillium program which covers the same meds as the over 65 group, but with a sliding scale deductable according to a persons salary which is deducted when a person fills rx ie no upfront payment, but one pays the rx until the deductable is satisfied then the drug cost is free,  until another quarter rolls by.<br />
Many people have private health plans from their work,  in some plans a person can choose how to structure their plan each year…ie my son opted out of dentists plan last year…until I said it is time to give Mother her birthday present and all go to the dentist.<br />
We are really free from worry,,,</p>
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		<title>By: hackworth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186347</link>
		<dc:creator>hackworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your budweiser would be $12 a six pack and a pack of smokes would be $8. Drink less and smoke less. No big deal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your budweiser would be $12 a six pack and a pack of smokes would be $8. Drink less and smoke less. No big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/06/new-flag-dont-cough-on-me/#comment-1186344</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s so sick to me that governments think of their citizens/soldiers as guinea pigs. Putting our soldiers in locked rooms to expose them to Anthrax to see the effects of it or putting them and our citizens a few miles from the testing of a nuclear bomb is just plain scary to me! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is being tested on us right now? We have no idea. Even Teflon coated pans could be the next epidemic in this country. Apparently Teflon particles can build up in our bodies and because it hasn’t been used for too long, the scientists don’t really know what effect it is having on us. I do know…when I was taking in rescued parrots/birds I stopped using Teflon coated pans. Why? Because if the Teflon is heated up to a certain temperature, it releases a gas into the air that kills a bird instantly. Oh gawd.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s so sick to me that governments think of their citizens/soldiers as guinea pigs. Putting our soldiers in locked rooms to expose them to Anthrax to see the effects of it or putting them and our citizens a few miles from the testing of a nuclear bomb is just plain scary to me! </p>
<p>What is being tested on us right now? We have no idea. Even Teflon coated pans could be the next epidemic in this country. Apparently Teflon particles can build up in our bodies and because it hasn’t been used for too long, the scientists don’t really know what effect it is having on us. I do know…when I was taking in rescued parrots/birds I stopped using Teflon coated pans. Why? Because if the Teflon is heated up to a certain temperature, it releases a gas into the air that kills a bird instantly. Oh gawd.</p>
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