zed really?

Suzanne!

Hi ya Suz. Just love SRV.

1?

Ann Coulter is this for real?

Hi Suzanne.

Good to see you back in the saddle, Suz!

gtg pups. glad to see no one in the video audience is yelling for ice tea! good night.

Give me more of Stevie. Appeals to the bass player in me. Glad to hear all is OK with you! Are you ready for Tuesdays bout?

hiya Suzanne.

how are you teddy?

Huckabee Steps Back Into the Pulpit at Evangelical Church in N.H.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..s_politics

http://texbetsy.headonradionet…..amendment/
The fourth amendment is dead. So are the others of course, but this is new:

Sidebar: If Your Hard Drive Could Testify …

from NYT > Home Page by ADAM LIPTAK

The government contends that it is perfectly free to inspect the hard drive of every laptop that enters the country in the same way it looks through suitcases.

Please oh Please don’t ruin Stevie on us:)

Dan Balz, WaPo’s Chief Political Reporter, chatz at 11am eastern tomorrow.

Questions accepted anytime.

Suzanne called me a little bit ago and, in between multiple references to tined eating utensils, asked me to let everyone know that her power had been on almost the entire day but had gone out just after she saved this post.

She misses you all and hopes to be able to join us yet tonight.

sorry nahant.

i often post the news of interesting blog posts at this hour.

I just had to share this comment on this CNN article. Brings a whole new meaning to the term “low-information voter.”

Why isn’t Bush settled to President election. Of course I would vote him instead of the other candidates. Is there somekind of official valid maximum time period for president’s incumbent.

Oy!

After I just got through typing a masterpiece too.

Glad she made it allright,too bad about the forkin’ power.
I gotta go to that place again in the morning so no late late nite fer me.
Have a good one.

nigh busted

Shit I don’t think they legally can do that to US citizens but I am not a lawyer, would definitely fall under 4th amendment.
after read said article this is going to get fugly. I feel it does violate our rights under the fourth and fifth amendments.

Suzanne, you’re cultivating a fan here… first the Allman Bros., then Govt. Mule (drummer Matt Abts = one of my best friends since 1978) and now this? Bless you! Albert King… holy shit!

Ah yes…that place.

I would bet my last dollar that this thread is the first place she visits as soon as she’s back online.

That sounds like someone who’s not a native English speaker, and who is trying to go along to get along.

Pennsylvania Supreme Court Rules In Favor of Sperm Donor Against Mother Claiming Child Support — Despite Earlier Waiver

Back to the real world busted in the morning. Get a good nights sleep! you probably need it

Just learned over at the treehouse that Countdown is doing puppet theatre tomorrow, featuring the Orally/Obama staffer shakeout. Should be grand!

Yep, a full week of it too. I already need a vacation.

C’mon back Suzanne,I can always stand good tunes.
Night RBG, Nite evehbody.

Can’t wait! Keith always does a bang up job. I still wonder how he has managed to stay alive with the way rips Bush. I hope he wears his dragonskin TM vest.

oh man, that song clip is a beauty.

I saw SRV live twice. The first was probably within months of this clip being recorded in ‘87 and was in an old coliseum on the state fair grounds in Dallas. We sat on worn wooden bleachers and were agog as he played with a plume feather bouncing from his hat with every stroke. The second was not long after at an outdoor venue on the grounds of H. Ross’ old EDS campus. He played a memorable rendition of Voodoo Child at that one.

A new US spy agency?

A new intelligence institution to be inaugurated soon by the Bush administration will allow government spying agencies to conduct broad surveillance and reconnaissance inside the United States for the first time.

Under a proposal being reviewed by Congress, a National Applications Office (NAO) will be established to coordinate how the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and domestic law enforcement and rescue agencies use imagery and communications intelligence picked up by U.S. spy satellites.

If the plan goes forward, the NAO will create the legal mechanism for an unprecedented degree of domestic intelligence gathering that would make the U.S. one of the world’s most closely monitored nations.

Until now, domestic use of electronic intelligence from spy satellites was limited to scientific agencies with no responsibility for national security or law enforcement.

Yeah, you’re probably right. There’s a distinction between those who are not yet informed and those who are willfully ignorant.

SUZ!!!!!! *G*

Great clip. I had to use it and post it to a few places I frequent, so here’s my generic reply:

********

I heard Elvin Bishop make this a Friday or Saturday Night staple at Winterland, Fillmore West and elsewhere, back in the 70’s.

But in this ‘87 lineup of greats, including my Butterfield hero, well.

Rock on gents, when it rains I think of all of you, when I’m sad I think of all of you who passed. The Sky Is Crying. And with good reason, cuz good men have passed on. Namaste.

*****

Damn Suz. Yer On Yer A Game!!

*G*

I might be comfortable enough to sleep. Thanks all for staying up with me.

Geebuz, this makes us worst n China, and obviously, a completely facist and evil republic.

Thanks for puttin it up ma’am . . . we continue to slide backwards, with our rights, as we continue to move forward, with the moneh goin to the 1%.

This guy lives in my town, in thegodforsakenvalleythattimeforgot. He presents an INTERESTING dilemma to me:

http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/611018.html

Should we stay or should we go?

WooHoo – good news.

Nite Betsy, pain free sleep wishes.

Betsy sleep well and may all your dreams be pleasant ones and pain free!

Nite Bets!

… and nite, all.

I see the Ann Coulter email ad up there in the corner. I’m pretty sure if you view it three times in three consecutive days you might turn to stone or a pillar of salt. That’s what I get for having my IE up instead of Firefox.

Larue did you make it to nay of the Day on the green concerts in Oakland. They were a bargin I made it to several of them. Now we try and get to shore line. We have sen some really memorable shows there. Eagles, Earth wind and fire and one of the best Steve Miller Band “The Joker”.

When Will you ever learn?

Niters Betsy and TSF – sleep well ;~)

I just had to look, do you give out barf bags with that?

I guess this is my first time seeing your site. Thanks for that and the link to Liptak.

I’m sure you’ve seen this sweetheart before. It boasts a 20% accuracy at night and a 60% accuracy in perfect light:

FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics

I haven’t spotted the Ann coulter ad here yet. Do you have to be really bad, or really good, to see it?

Just use IE explorer her fugly self shows. Oh quick give me the barf bag!

If you see the Coulter, be sure to click it. The irony of her publisher paying FDL… delicious!

I think if you had to have a poster child and a paradigm shift for the ugliest behavior imaginable, it was Coulter’s appearance a few months ago shrieking nastily at Elizabeth Edwards on Chris Mathews:

Elizabeth Edwards Confronts Coultergeist

Coulter “wishes” Edwards had been killed in terrorist plot

IE does it; I don’t know about Opera or Safari. I’m pretty sure FF blocks it. FF is a great browser and I love the variety of the extensions/add-ons, but I’m using IE lately.

ET I think they are on left side near top.

I know the story as PARC was one of my internal accounts so I got to meet many of the players. Xerox screwed the pooch on that one! Great product but way over priced for the apps 20k plus. Of course Xerox was and still is run by a bunch of toner heads in Rochester NY. In the early days we always traveled first class now the service reps don’t even have a territory as their own, the customers never get the same tech twice. Still have a lot of friends there and we keep in touch.
I will check out the book as I haven’t read it yet but I need to get through Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine. Too much on the computer and not enough reading whats a guy going to do?

The book is around in used bookstores for a few bucks and it’s great. Probably a chapter on the site.

Xerox PARC still is coming out with cutting edge stuff. I remember seeing a demo of liquid newspaper in a tube that changed every day I think that is their invetion.

The book is the history of software and the development of the PC and has interesting (to me) chapters on Gates growing up, Gates and Allen riding their bikes to a company to critique the programs written by adults as 13 and 15 year-old kids, the early years, Mipps, where Gates had a falling out with a guy over selling the computer to him (generation clash) who later became a family physician in Georgia and told 60 Minutes he never regretted the choice.

But you were there and you lived some of this. I like software and computers as a hobby. What perspective you must have.

I use Safari mostly. I write posts for my blg on a freeware called “Camino,” that somerbody turned me on to here three months or so ago.

So, by keeping away from Bill Gates, I also get to shun Ann Coulter.

I had heard about that and I don’t think I could watch that Fu** Bitch before going to sleep for fear she just might show up in my dreams, maybe in the light of day???

A lot of Apple fans who are Dems view Gates and Coulter similarly LOL.

I love Mac machines, and the whole Apple mystique/Apple freak thing although I think they blew it when they intentionally pulled Iphone features out of the Itouch. Time will tell.

But I’m using a PC right now–I Beta test a lot of MSFT stuff, and I know that would get derision from a lot of Apple users. I know Softies on the campus that use both all the time though and even blog about it on their sites.

It has come up a number of times on my Firefox. Refreshing gets rid of it.

Did you ever see the photoshopped photo of her with the mouth of a lamprey eel?

That’s one babe you do not want to ever dream about. It would make Silence of the Lambs look like a walk in the park. I’ve been having enough off the wall wierd dreams lately–always in color.

Actually if you use

http://video.google.com/

and do a search on her, people have nailed her with some great video interpretations.

Hi Suzanne – I’m driving by to see if I’ve added javascript properly to my browser…

And they dare to call this democracy!

The Tyranny of Super-Delegates

A truly scary picture: http://firedoglake.com/2007/03…..und-drang/

How come the Left is always right?

New Hampshire debates: Democrats and Republicans embrace US militarism

Quote: “The back-to-back televised debates among the leading Republican and Democratic presidential candidates, broadcast over ABC television Saturday, provided a stark glimpse of the militaristic policies that will be undertaken by whichever of these candidates wins the November election and enters the White House a year from now…”

… except for Ron Paul.

if you pull the Darkblack image of Lampray
Annie onto your desktop, it is titled “cworm.”

Sweet dreams all you fine firepups. Stay warm & dry & safe.

I did read the link and yes PARC did and are still working on liquid paper. I am a member of a list called EX-Xeroids and get mail from the group. PARS was a great place to visit and I got the privilege of doing any local projects that George Pake (VP and founder of PARC) and other labs. In the late 70’s and early 80’s. I was able to meet many of the researchers. I was also allowed to attend presentations on research. I have two of the books that dealt with the first ten years and the second ten years in my collection. Much of them are over my head but I could glen a fairly good idea of what was being done there. Xerox tried to sell off the center but was unable to. They still do amazing things there . Check out their web site http://www.parc.com/ a lot of interesting info. I sure miss those days!

PARC accomplishments:
– ethernet
– smalltalk
– GUIs
– the predecessor to Word (IIRC)
– a lot of real good OS research

It looks like Sibel Edmonds is tired of not talking:

In the article, just filed tonight, Edmonds reveals details overheard on wiretaps she translated during her time at the FBI, just after 9/11. Her disclosures to the Times reveal a maze of nuclear black market espionage involving U.S. Defense and State Department officials, that resulted in the sale and propagation of nuclear secrets to Turkish and Israeli interests. In turn, that information was then sold to Pakistan and used by A.Q. Kahn for development of nuclear weapons. The secrets were subsequently proliferated to Iran, Libya, North Korea, and potentially al-Qaeda’s Osama bin Laden, just weeks prior to September 11th, 2001.

Hi Wigwam,

I don’t recall if you were party to the Ron Paul discussion we had raging here at FDL about 12 hours ago. It was a lot of fun. Apparently I torqued a few fine folks by suggesting that Ron Paul had one or two good ideas. Of course I didn’t bring up his nastier habits, but it didn’t take long for that unpleasantness to take center stage. As they say, it was fun while it lasted.

I’m going to bring up another of my favorite presidential candidates soon. Cynthia McKinney. I can’t wait for the crowd reaction. (grin)

-R.

Pete her is an old e-mail from the EX-Xeroid list it contains some links to the archives on the Star system. First commercial networked computer (10 megabit Ethernet)
Ex-Xeroids,

Someone named Marcin Wichary has created an online archive of article
(historical and current) documenting GUI history and design. The
archive includes articles on the Star (as well as ones on the Apple
Lisa and Macintosh).

Until now, the only online version of the Xerox Star Retrospective
article was the one posted by Dave Curbow at:
http://www.digibarn.com/friend…..trospect/, But now, I
think Wichary’s posting of it, which includes links to other articles
it references, will be more useful.

- Star Retro:
http://www.guidebookgallery.or…..rospective

- Xerox Section (14 articles): http://www.guidebookgallery.org/articles/xerox

- Directory of articles: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/articles/

- Archive home page: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/

Jeff Johnson
UI Wizards, Inc.
Product Usability Consulting
http://www.uiwizards.com

howdy all.

just wanted to let the late night crew know that hugh is scheduled to be a guest on jeff farias’ radio show tomorrow today (monday) at 6:30pm EST. i think we will be able to listen via websteam.

Nahant – if you hard-refresh, your comment will show.

Good News! I bookmarked the link.

Thanks I had several windows open at once to the site and now have closed all but 2 of them..

Thanks so much for the links I wouldn’t ever find otherwise. I’ll have a good time with them. They do amazing things there for sure, and it sounds like you’ve had some great exposure to them.

The book I mentioned is easy reading, although it does a good job of tracing the early days of Apple and Windows and the personalities involved in getting software on computers evolving from Big Iron. For someone like me it was fun, and I pull it out every once in a while and reread parts of it.

I don’t approve of Ron Paul, but I sure like his positions on
– war and peace
– foreign policy
– the rule of law
– civil liberties.
When he gets to economics and social welfare, he gets totally crazy but he articulates a point of view that needs to be soundly smacked down.

He certainly raises the caliber of the dicourse during this campaign.

There has been a lot written about him having hidden agendas: racism, naziism, misogyny, etc. They don’t matter much since there’s no way he’ll get elected.

ET,

We’ve been covering the Sibel Edmonds “revelations” throughout the day here at FDL. Siun and I agree that there is something exceptionally odd about this story.

Earlier it was fairly ineffable. Just that some elements of the story were not adding up.

For example in the snippet you provided, the dates are all wrong. Sibel Edmonds was employed at the FBI in the aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001. The Pakistanis had a functional nuclear weapons test in 1998. The items that she purported had to have read therefore must have been documents from the mid-1990s. It makes no sense at all that she would be working on that stuff 4 to 10 years after the purported secrets had been stolen.

I want you to consider the possiblility that the U.S. Government has a psyop running involving a red herring named Sibel Edmonds who is being conveniently trotted out in the right wing Sunday Times which has a track record of willingness to cooperate in propaganda efforts with both the U.S. and UK governments.

Furthermore, I want you to ask yourself why Edmonds seems to be spreading FUD (that is, Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) about the Pakistanis today, while in the four years that I’ve researched her bleatings, never once before has Pakistan come up. Why doesn’t she name a suspect? Why are the editors at the Times so coy? What kind of psyop are they running here?

Clearly this article creates more confusion than it resolves. What kind of journalism is that? Well, most government psyops guys call that propaganda.

I stumbled accross this and it’s kind of interesting. It’s from a law site but it has an analysis of the speaking styles of the candidate, trying to correlate them with their success:

Leader, Manager, Worker: An Analysis of Democratic Candidates’ Speaking Styles

Executive = Declarations: bring forth, generate something new, lead.
Manager = Requests: please do x by time y with condition of satisfaction.
Worker = Promises: deliver competent performance in a domain, over and over.

And never the twain shall meet.

Let’s walk it back to our Presidential candidates.

One speaks in declarations, inspires, leads.
The second requests you elect him to fix problems, lobbies for a change so he can fix the system.
The third talks of her competence and experience, promises she will do what she’s always done, and has the policy plans and papers to prove it.

nahant – is that a private email communication that you are posting?

Wigwam,

We have a complete mindmeld on Ron Paul. Can I be your dittohead on this? Thx. :’)

Glad to help Pete. I will look at some of my archives and see if I can come up with some more goodies from PARC tomorow!
Time for beddy bye for now. I hope everyone of the Firepups have a restful sleep. Thanks to all for the great discussions. I won’t dream of ANN C I hope!

well, go over to emptywheel can ask lukery your questions.

The guy who has really been making this case is glenn greenwald. Only, he never says anything about economics. (Could he be a closet libertarian?)

The person I’d really like to see take off on Paul’s economics and social policies is Krugman. If he wrote a good post on that, I’d frame it.

Interesting take. I was gone outside most of the day, learning how to Nordic skate ski. Uh, make that failing to learn.

So, if Edmonds is a government operqtive, do you think Ellsberg is in on it?

technically yes but it is 4 plus years old and on that list we are free to use for discussions. I don’t think there will be any repercussions as the info is in the public domain. It also helps to know the list owner, I used to work on his engineering hardware for him, early dedicated word processors.
Hope it doesn’t cause you any heart burn.

Well Pete,

You bring out the socialist in me. By your characterization, the only worthy candidate would be the worker, because the other two characters are completely superfluous to the production of government services. They are mere talking heads who might seek roles in religious ministries, bloviating punditocracies or Little League management.

Of course I see that this theoretical construct isn’t worth the electrons its projected on because anyone who knows anything knows that the “worker” described here is her. I.e. Hillary, the worker. Sadly, your law site fails utterly at what lawyers are usually best at, deception. While Ms. Clinton may pose as a journeyman in the realm of rule, anyone who can parse a political speech in context clearly understands that:

Hillary has no ambition to be the mere worker bee.
Her ambition is to be the Empress of all she sees.

ET–

The question for me, and we had a ton of Sibel Links over on the EW thread

here

is in the history of the litigation that I’ve followed closely and EW has done some nice posts on in the past, if you think Sibel is flaky the way that DOJ often tries to paint people who are about to expose some of their bullshit and lying (in this case the FBI’s being asleep at the switch in translating 911 info for openers) why is DOJ going to such bizarre lengths to shut her up, and the courts, as usual with state secrets arguments is rolling over for DOJ as they did in El-Mazri.

It’s damn unusual for the D.C. or any other circuit to close oral argument, seal opinions, and deny the plaintiff the right to attend oral argument. It’s a cold frigging day in Hell when that happens.

In the Soviet Union at the height of Kruschev, and in China today, and many 3rd world countries it happens all the time, but until we’ve become the judicial bananna republic we’re becoming under Bush/Mukasey it damn well didn’t happen here.

I think DOJ is just trying to coverup their colossal fuckup in preventing 911. I haven’t really dug into the stories in the Londdon papers yesterday.

I have noticed the fun picture book here:

Sibel Names Names

State Secrets Cases

ACLU: A Patriot Silenced

Vanity Fair:An Incovenient Patriot

Sibel has had a damn good lawyer with several years of experience in the games the gov has played, and the ACLU took a close look at the situation before spending the time writing her cert. briefs in the Supreme Court.

To me, and a lot of people, it was disappointing they lacked the guts to grant cert.

It’s hardly in the category of a private email conversation per any laws forbidding them, since every link is a public link and nothing private in nature (not a scintilla) was posted.

Re:

So, if Edmonds is a government operqtive, do you think Ellsberg is in on it?

Absolutely not. Ellsberg is a straightshooter. I’ve never seen anything to indicate that he’s anything other than a hero to those of us who dream of democracy and transparent government as the ideal.

I realize that Ellsberg has some association with Edmonds, but I haven’t spent enough research effort on that to understand their relationship.

In some of her recent speeches, Hillary has enumerated the tasks facing the next president and emphasized how important it is to elect someone will “hit the ground running” and be prepared for new tasks to arise at any moment. Of course, she wants us to see her as that person.

My problem is that stuff like restoring the rule of law, restoring habeas corpus, prosecuting U.S. war criminals and generally repealing the Bush presidency were never mentioned.

Is the Republican Party disintegrating before our eyes? Someone posted this video of Ron Paul supporters chasing after and harassing Sean Hannity, saying “Fox News Sucks!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXKddQvC1o

Thanks for the Edmonds info. I’ll catch up. I just posted a new poll on possible further indictments of GOP Alaska legislators at my place.

Re:

The guy who has really been making this case is glenn greenwald. Only, he never says anything about economics. (Could he be a closet libertarian?)

Glenn Greenwald’s turf is civil liberties. That was his specialty at law before he became a full-time writer.

So, in the sense that the National Lawyer’s Guild, ACLU, Center for Constitutional Rights and the Libertarian Party all believe in preserving and promoting civil liberties then they do have something in common. However, that and an anti-war stance are probably the only overlaps.

The Libertarian Party is something I’ve loved to ridicule in the past. The level of intellect applied to conniving on how to cheat on taxes greatly exceeds any concept of how to run a complex society among the Libertarians I am familiar with. To me, it looks like these guys wouldn’t even know how to fill a pothole, let alone administer a village.

pete here are a couple of links done by former Xeriods, they are and were a fun group. Oh and thanks for watching my back!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re2Oh4rxN6w The Truth About Programmers (1990)
What’s for Dessert? (1987) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKreH_OHt8
I think you will get a kick out of them.
Talk at you tomorrow Pete.
Oh and lurkingmod whats up with all the site glitches Hardware, OS or the application. Curios minds want to know? I get a lot of data base errors among other problems, any idea or are you just a moderator and not one of the back room boys?

LOL Ray–

Well Pete,

You bring out the socialist in me. By your characterization, the only worthy candidate would be the worker, because the other two characters are completely superfluous to the production of government services. They are mere talking heads who might seek roles in religious ministries, bloviating punditocracies or Little League management.

Of course I see that this theoretical construct isn’t worth the electrons its projected on because anyone who knows anything knows that the “worker” described here is her. I.e. Hillary, the worker. Sadly, your law site fails utterly at what lawyers are usually best at, deception. While Ms. Clinton may pose as a journeyman in the realm of rule, anyone who can parse a political speech in context clearly understands that:

Hillary has no ambition to be the mere worker bee.
Her ambition is to be the Empress of all she sees.

A quick point, Ray. I didn’t write the article. I quoted the article. Maybe I should have made that clear with a quote bar. It’s late here. Those words aren’t mine. I’m passing the article along and you can draw your conclusions from it.

This is on a pretty good law blog and they quoted the article. I simply passed it along, because I think it’s interesting. I haven’t had a chance to finish it yet.

BTW EW had a great post on the election I linked earlier, so check it out:

Missing the Party

My response to ET, also, on Sibel Edwards, should have been the response to you, so I hope you read it @ 89.

But I’ll make one point again. It’s a damn cold day in hell when the D.C. Circuit closes oral argument and bans the plaintiff in the case from attending it, and the ACLU and some top of the line appellate litigators took a damn close look at Sibel’s info before pouring expensive resources into her cert. petition.

I haven’t had time to read the London articles from yesterday yet.

I did see this though:

Sibel Names Names

Becaus she wouldn’t lift a finger to get any of that done–it’s not on her radar. Clinton DOJ had plenty of the same faults.

To some extent Naomi Klein’s book Shock Doctrine describes the empirical refutation of their economic policies. That shit just doesn’t work.

Just a moderator.

Re:

My problem is that stuff like restoring the rule of law, restoring habeas corpus, prosecuting U.S. war criminals and generally repealing the Bush presidency were never mentioned.

The impression that I get is that Hillary wants to be a more ruthlessly efficient imperialist pig than George Bush. All that stuff you mention about habeus corpus and rule of law? What’s that got to do with being an Empress?

Thanks for the link. I was tired, and I thought, and I could be wrong, that Ray was dissing Sibel, and characterizing her as a flake.

I know who the flakes are in this and they are DOJ attorneys and the DC Circuit bush pawns who screwed Sibel, Zaid, the ACLU and Americans.

Bush DOJ will do anything to cover the fuckups of an administration that has been running this country into the ground, and keeping it anything but safe for six years.

Reading “The Little Goat” and panicking when your country has been essentially bombed with a plane, and then running away on a plane, instead of taking charge as Bush did precisely, when your FAA is making a fucking fool of themselves by panicking and pissing in their pants and not knowing which end is up, is a metaphor for how Bush has run this country into the ground.

Dam I was hoping to get some incite as to what been going on. thanks for the reply and have a great morning now. Keep us honest we wouldn’t want to get the lake in any trouble!
good night bro

Again thanks for this stuff a lot. I am into it. Everyone have a good morning.

Everyone have a good morning.

good night!

how goes the web mastering selise?

Never knew video existed of this date, assuming it’s the same one on recordings for some years. Great to see it preserved.

Re:

Is the Republican Party disintegrating before our eyes? Someone posted this video of Ron Paul supporters chasing after and harassing Sean Hannity, saying “Fox News Sucks!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXKddQvC1o
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Thanks Brother Rob,

That one made my day! The natives are restless. I love it.

I just sent the follow message out to my listserv:

While almost all Democrats seem to have successfully completed their anger management courses or at least gotten onto a good prescription mellowing agent, this group of enthusiastic Ron Paul supporters are doing exactly what I think the Left should have been doing for the past four years. Harassing Hannity. This is a hoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXKddQvC1o

OK, just because this looks like a blend of Krystalnacht and Grant Park, Chicago, ‘68 don’t accuse me of being a revolutionary. I’m just sitting here typing….. for now.

Re:

To some extent Naomi Klein’s book Shock Doctrine describes the empirical refutation of their economic policies. That shit just doesn’t work.

Respectfully, I disagree. Naomi Klein’s wonderful book is about the Bush style of “disaster capitalism” as she describes it, or predatory capitalism as I’ve come to call it. This is quite separate from the philosophy of libertarianism.

In the case of predatory capitalism, there is no liberty, there is utterly ruthless control by an oligopoly. This is discussed as “the Chicago School” of Eeconomics and Milton Friedman is their guru.

Libertarians prefer the views of Freidrick Hayak.

Think about competing think tanks. American Enterprise Institute versus the Cato Institute.

I know, I know. This is getting too abstruse and esoteric of a comment board.

But my main point is that Klein’s book isn’t about the Ron Paul version of economics. It’s about the crony capitalism of the GOP guys who are trying to crush Ron Paul.

I thought Friedman was into the unrestrained free markets and got misty-eyed over the sublime wonderfulness of the unseen hand. How could they give him the Nobel prize for crony captialism. No wonder it’s called “the dismal science.”

There are times when anger is the only sane response. And any encounter with Fox News is such a time.

Think about competing think tanks. American Enterprise Institute versus the Cato Institute.

John Galt must love it, eh?

Beginning to appreciate RayDuran.

I miss the edit function. Excuse me, Ray…

Re:

I thought Friedman was into the unrestrained free markets and got misty-eyed over the sublime wonderfulness of the unseen hand.

Friedman was a monetarist. He felt that control of the nation’s and the world’s money was the key to prosperity, at least for those who controled the money. In the U.S. that would be the private corporation called “the Fed” or Federal Reserve Bank. OTOH, libertarians are more akin to the older order called mercantilists. These people thought trade in goods and services was more important than the banking function in the economy. They officially lost the battle for control of the economy in 1913 with the creation of the FRB.

How could they give him the Nobel prize for crony captialism.

Well, of course they didn’t. They gave him the prize for his work on monetary theory. While it’s not a bodice ripper, Friedman’s book “Monetary History of the United States: 1867-1960” is actually a tremendously infomrative book.

I’ll certainly agree with you about the dismal quote. :’)

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John Galt must love it, eh?

Omigod, you do not even want to get me started on the evil that Ayn Rand brought to the planet in the name of morally bankrupt greed. Her spawn from hell, Allan Greenspan, spent half of his most recent book regurgitating the militantly selfish justifications for Fed policy and the other half describing how the cuckolded taxpayer was forced to clean up all the damn messes that Greenspan’s sponsors refused to be responsible for. That man should be tarred & feathered instead of being lionized as he is by the fraudulent financial press in this nation.

I’m eternally grateful that I was fortunate enough to see all these guys at least once.

Butterfield was the first show I ever saw back in May of ‘67 at Princeton when I was 14. It was between East-West and Pigboy Crabshaw albums and Butter was breaking in a horn section featuring a young alto player named David Sanborn. Mike Bloomfield had left to start the Electric Flag but Elvin Bishop just smoked.

I was lucky enough to see BB open for Big Brother, Albert open for Tim Buckley and Big Brother the night the Fillmore East opened and Cream at a Catholic HS in Scotch Plains, NJ before I turned 15 when I saw Jimi at the Fillmore.

Needless to say, it was a magical time. I was just lucky enough to be born at the right time and live in the right place to see so many great shows between ‘67-’73. Old enough to see Hendrix and young enough to miss Vietnam.

I remember when I first read about Stevie Ray in Musician magazine back in ‘82 playing a Birthday Bash for Mick Jagger when the Blues was at a real low ebb, Pete Townshend claiming the guitar was all but dead and in the process of being replaced by synths and key-tars and Asia, Human League and a Flock of Seagulls ruled the charts.

SRV was a gift from above. The Blues will always be my thing.