Comments on: Late Late Nite – Fighting Winter with Summertime http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 18:51:10 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176795 cinnamonape Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:47:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176795 <p>Is he still going to put troops over the horizon (in Kuwait) to act as a response force if there’s a civil war or to attack terrorists? And what about that two Brigade (@4000 troops and support staff) that are going to be there to protect the Green Zone and reconstruction projects? Has he changed that?</p> Is he still going to put troops over the horizon (in Kuwait) to act as a response force if there’s a civil war or to attack terrorists? And what about that two Brigade (@4000 troops and support staff) that are going to be there to protect the Green Zone and reconstruction projects? Has he changed that?

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176747 JamesJoyce Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:47:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176747 <p>“It’s time for a new approach, and amongst the three front runners in the Democratic field, that means Edwards. As with FDR, if his approach works, he will be both the most loved and most hated man in America, and some will wring their hands about how divisive that is. But if “unpleasantness” is what is needed to stop going to war illegally, to end the shredding of the Constitution and to end the destruction of the Middle Class, so be it. An unwillingness to really fight means that those who will, the Republicans, will walk all over those who won’t.<br /> The time for the failed politics of compromise is over.”</p> <p>I believe you are correct. Jefferson would indeed be proud of your position “Corporate aristocrat’s” perpetual assault on the constitution and attempts to “usurp” it, have been effective. Political affiliation no longer matters as manifest by the democratic leadership’s failure to hold this administration accountable, for self interested politcal reasons.. I believe all current politics viewed agaist the backdrop of America’s founders’ fears and concerns, carries the same weight as the bible……</p> <p>Unfortunely, for America, America’s concern with the bible carries more weight than the words of our brilliant and gifted founders……</p> <p>Today more so than ever,as was back then, America’s revoution was a reaction to an unjust econmic arrangement. The English empire “mercantiled” the world from India , to the New World using war as the instrument of coersion. The colonist of America revolted against the King of England and his corporate cohorts in colonial crime. Today corportions control every aspect of American’s live’s, from the gaspump to the deathbed. When government conspires with corporations you have, Kings of England and corporate cohorts in colonial crime! This is what our constitution was designed to avoid America, not enable…….</p> “It’s time for a new approach, and amongst the three front runners in the Democratic field, that means Edwards. As with FDR, if his approach works, he will be both the most loved and most hated man in America, and some will wring their hands about how divisive that is. But if “unpleasantness” is what is needed to stop going to war illegally, to end the shredding of the Constitution and to end the destruction of the Middle Class, so be it. An unwillingness to really fight means that those who will, the Republicans, will walk all over those who won’t.
The time for the failed politics of compromise is over.”

I believe you are correct. Jefferson would indeed be proud of your position “Corporate aristocrat’s” perpetual assault on the constitution and attempts to “usurp” it, have been effective. Political affiliation no longer matters as manifest by the democratic leadership’s failure to hold this administration accountable, for self interested politcal reasons.. I believe all current politics viewed agaist the backdrop of America’s founders’ fears and concerns, carries the same weight as the bible……

Unfortunely, for America, America’s concern with the bible carries more weight than the words of our brilliant and gifted founders……

Today more so than ever,as was back then, America’s revoution was a reaction to an unjust econmic arrangement. The English empire “mercantiled” the world from India , to the New World using war as the instrument of coersion. The colonist of America revolted against the King of England and his corporate cohorts in colonial crime. Today corportions control every aspect of American’s live’s, from the gaspump to the deathbed. When government conspires with corporations you have, Kings of England and corporate cohorts in colonial crime! This is what our constitution was designed to avoid America, not enable…….

]]> By: wigwam http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176736 wigwam Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:56:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176736 <p>There’s an alleged link to that article at #117, but it didn’t work for me. So it’s helpful that you posted it verbatim.</p> <p>And, I agree with you that it is an excellent and important post that gets exactly to the crux of the race. Making nice and business as usual don’t cut it in a constitutional crisis.</p> There’s an alleged link to that article at #117, but it didn’t work for me. So it’s helpful that you posted it verbatim.

And, I agree with you that it is an excellent and important post that gets exactly to the crux of the race. Making nice and business as usual don’t cut it in a constitutional crisis.

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176735 bigbrother Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:40:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176735 <p>Indubitubly the best post of the year: If I may:</p> <p>The Edwards Imperative: Because Compromising To Change Hasn’t Worked<br /> Edwards should be Democratic nominee because he is the most progressive and electable of the top three candidate and the only one who understands that entrenched interests like the telecoms, banks, credit card issuers, health insurers and oil companies aren’t voluntarily going to make some sort of “bipartisan happy consensus” that costs them billions of dollars and a ton of power, whether doing so saves millions of lives, trillions of dollars and makes the country prosperous and safe or not.<br /> Just is not happening.<br /> And anyone who thinks it is (hello Mr. Obama) is both living in a fantasy land and certainly is suffering from amnesia, because nothing, nothing in the last 30 years, indicates that megacorporations are giving up any power, even a small amount, without a fight to the death.</p> <p>[snip]</p> <p><em>[Mod Note; Edited by Mod for length. To help keep the FDL servers running smoothly and to avoid any copyright issues, please do not post entire articles — <a href="http://agonist.org/node/48716" rel="nofollow">include a link instead</a>. Thank you. ]</em></p> Indubitubly the best post of the year: If I may:

The Edwards Imperative: Because Compromising To Change Hasn’t Worked
Edwards should be Democratic nominee because he is the most progressive and electable of the top three candidate and the only one who understands that entrenched interests like the telecoms, banks, credit card issuers, health insurers and oil companies aren’t voluntarily going to make some sort of “bipartisan happy consensus” that costs them billions of dollars and a ton of power, whether doing so saves millions of lives, trillions of dollars and makes the country prosperous and safe or not.
Just is not happening.
And anyone who thinks it is (hello Mr. Obama) is both living in a fantasy land and certainly is suffering from amnesia, because nothing, nothing in the last 30 years, indicates that megacorporations are giving up any power, even a small amount, without a fight to the death.

[snip]

[Mod Note; Edited by Mod for length. To help keep the FDL servers running smoothly and to avoid any copyright issues, please do not post entire articles — include a link instead. Thank you. ]

]]> By: newspaperbrat http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176734 newspaperbrat Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:33:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176734 <p>I’m fading fast as well. Niters dear firepups!</p> I’m fading fast as well. Niters dear firepups!

]]> By: PetePierce http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176733 PetePierce Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:03:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176733 <p>Much appreciated.</p> Much appreciated.

]]> By: fahrender http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176732 fahrender Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:59:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176732 <p>reading Ian Welsh’s eloquent case for John Edwards over Hillary or Barak Obama:</p> <p><a href="http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/2…..ic_nominee" rel="nofollow">http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/2…..ic_nominee</a></p> <p>that about says it all for me ……</p> reading Ian Welsh’s eloquent case for John Edwards over Hillary or Barak Obama:

http://agonist.org/ian_welsh/2…..ic_nominee

that about says it all for me ……

]]> By: newtonusr http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176731 newtonusr Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:53:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176731 <p>It’s chilly and wet here.<br /> And as much as I like Edwards, I’m still more than a little peeved with Ralph, and wondering what Iowa has shown the Edwards campaign that makes them think that Nader is a plus.</p> <p>Gotta go… fading fast.<br /> nite npb!</p> It’s chilly and wet here.
And as much as I like Edwards, I’m still more than a little peeved with Ralph, and wondering what Iowa has shown the Edwards campaign that makes them think that Nader is a plus.

Gotta go… fading fast.
nite npb!

]]> By: newspaperbrat http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176730 newspaperbrat Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:47:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176730 <p>Hey newtonusr - warm, sunny & finally drying out throughout the Monterey peninsula & south coast. ;~) My burning question: Will Ralph Nader’s endorsement of John Edwards help get out votes for him in Iowa?</p> Hey newtonusr – warm, sunny & finally drying out throughout the Monterey peninsula & south coast. ;~) My burning question: Will Ralph Nader’s endorsement of John Edwards help get out votes for him in Iowa?

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176729 bigbrother Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:46:44 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/01/late-late-nite-fighting-winter-with-summertime/#comment-1176729 <p>Well..<br /> The first day of 2008 was excellent for moi. I learned a lot from you all. I started my jogging regime with my buddy my almost 14 year old rot/shep. He has a dazzling smile and a grateful attitude. I am happy he can still manage to stay ahead of my pace.<br /> I have a positive feeling about the coming year. You make of it the best you can. Be well prepared as much as possible. I think this group will help each other as well as humanity. There are a lot of people and other organizations that have done and will be doing much to that end. We are just grains of sand on the a little planet. I hope we can make it a better place. Have another year.</p> Well..
The first day of 2008 was excellent for moi. I learned a lot from you all. I started my jogging regime with my buddy my almost 14 year old rot/shep. He has a dazzling smile and a grateful attitude. I am happy he can still manage to stay ahead of my pace.
I have a positive feeling about the coming year. You make of it the best you can. Be well prepared as much as possible. I think this group will help each other as well as humanity. There are a lot of people and other organizations that have done and will be doing much to that end. We are just grains of sand on the a little planet. I hope we can make it a better place. Have another year.

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