"There are too many moments these days when we cannot recognize our country." The New York Times lead editorial today echoes what millions of Americans must be feeling as this awful year comes to a close. It was a year of self recognition, when Americans finally realized America can no longer pretend to be a moral beacon. It is a sickening discovery.
Out of panic and ideology, President Bush squandered America’s position of moral and political leadership, swept aside international institutions and treaties, sullied America’s global image, and trampled on the constitutional pillars that have supported our democracy through the most terrifying and challenging times. These policies have fed the world’s anger and alienation and have not made any of us safer.
In the years since 9/11, we have seen American soldiers abuse, sexually humiliate, torment and murder prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq. A few have been punished, but their leaders have never been called to account. We have seen mercenaries gun down Iraqi civilians with no fear of prosecution. We have seen the president, sworn to defend the Constitution, turn his powers on his own citizens, authorizing the intelligence agencies to spy on Americans, wiretapping phones and intercepting international e-mail messages without a warrant.
We have read accounts of how the government’s top lawyers huddled in secret after the attacks in New York and Washington and plotted ways to circumvent the Geneva Conventions — and both American and international law — to hold anyone the president chose indefinitely without charges or judicial review.
Those same lawyers then twisted other laws beyond recognition to allow Mr. Bush to turn intelligence agents into torturers, to force doctors to abdicate their professional oaths and responsibilities to prepare prisoners for abuse, and then to monitor the torment to make sure it didn’t go just a bit too far and actually kill them.
It is a devastating indictment, and there is more, but it is only half finished. As we look into the mirror to see what our country has become, one cannot help but feel contempt for the passivity -- or is it complicity -- with which the "opposition party" and an indolent media acquiesced in one outrage after another. Do the leaders of the Democratic Party truly condemn the Administration's actions? Do they feel the revulsion and disgust in the pits of their stomachs? And if so, why are they not demanding full disclosure, accountability, censure and removal from office for the most criminal regime in our history?
Glenn Greenwald reminds us the Democrats have been complicit in the Administration's illegal spying, in waging illegal wars, in creating a CIA monster, in sanctioning torture, in destroying the 4th Amendment, in illegal kidnappings and detentions and the assault on habeas corpus, and in creating kangaroo courts. As much as the Administration's arrogant defiance and contempt for the rule of law, the Democrat's meek protests and their refusals time and again to stand up to these outrages dismayed their supporters and created a sense of helplessness, a feeling there is nothing our political institutions can or will do to do cure this sickness.
The most obvious remedy, the one expressly designed for this purpose, sits unused for reasons no one can credibly explain or defend. I suspect historians will look back on Nancy Pelosi's decision to take impeachment off the table and describe it as one of the most cowardly, unprincipled and damaging statements ever uttered by a national leader. It has left America defenseless against an onslaught of lawlessness.
The Administration is destroying who America is, what it stands for, why it's important. And with only a few exceptions like Chris Dodd, Russ Feingold and others, the Democrats are not vowing to save it. They're not even acknowledging the travesty that every American can read in every day's headlines.
Now a new set of leaders is seeking our votes. What have they done to earn our trust? They have some interesting proposals to deal with other problems, but the front runners are not speaking to the destruction of our Constitutional system, they're not demanding accountability for the damage that has been done and a return to the rule of law. They're playing it safe.
But this is not a time for people who lack political courage. Who among them will step up and say what must be done?
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Because it is greed and corporate interests that is the constituency of government made possible by lobbyists and the Supremes who equated money with free speech. That is the root cause of the problem of America. It is not a democracy, but a representative corporate kelptocracy. Any one who wants to play will further what has been going on because ALL that is noted above is an outrage to democracy.
There is no accountability. There is only stealing, lying and self agrandisement. That’s America to me.
We have seen judy, Judy, Judy and other NYT stenographers print BushCo lies, paving the way for the US invasion of Iraq. We have also seen the NYT sit on stories until after the 2004 election to protect BushCo. Someone buy Mr. Sulzberger a mirror.
And if not, who are these people we elected to office and how can they live with themselves?
And how can we get rid of them as soon as possible and put human beings in their places?
Stripping corporations of personhood and restoring the Fairness Doctrine would be a nice start…
I think the editorial board just held up the mirror for Sulzberger — and he sees William Kristol.
I just got a letter from Nancy Pelosi asking for money. No way!! I read it hoping she somehow would have a message of hope and a removal of impeachment. I can dream cant I?
AMEN, BROTHER!!!
(sorry for the shouting, but it seemed appropriate.)
Bob in HI
Good words…..but empty….in today’s editorial.
As you say, where the h*ll was the NYT and all the other media when we really needed their voices….before and during the fact vs. after?
The NYT is fashionably late to the party, don’t you think? How useless, irrelevant, and hypocritical is this unless they go the last step and call for impeachment. They could at least speak kindly of D. Kucinich. He’s been right all along.
The NYT editorial board has been on top of most of the issues they list, and I really respect what they’ve been doing for the last couple of years; the editors on the news side have a mixed record, at best.
Elizabeth Edwards up on MSNBC just now…John’s words are not just rhetoric, he is for the people, not the corporations. Adrenaline’s risin’ in the Edwards camp, you can see it comin’ on!
Prairie’s talkin’ False P’s and L’il Smokies
I don’t think it makes up for Kristol, but it’s a start.
cbl is that really you? Good to see you back!
Maybe we’ve been captured and suffer the “Stockholm Syndrome” which destroys the inclination to confront our captors. Clearly we cannot expect change from either political party. We can speculate about why this is, but that doesn’t help. We are left to our own devices, and what might they be? That’s something to talk about. We can’t even agree to forego movies to support the writers. That’s not a great and vigorous opposition.
The Boston Globule has also slipped.
Publishing this trash by Jeff Jacoby, the Bay State’s Grover
Norquist
“I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”
Why do they hate America?
http://www.boston.com/bostongl.....ncome_tax/
Hey revdeb are you gonna go to eschacon?
Sorta on topic, the Times is getting very weird, not as weird as the journal, but weird. The editorial page has been hammering these issues more strongly that anyone else in the traditional media. But they’re gonna put serious intellectual Billy Kristol on the op-ed page. They run Krugman, but the Book Review savages his book, and, yesterday, gave the Doughy Pantload a pass on the ridiculously titled “Liberal Fascism.”
I just don’t see how they can ever ever make up for Kristol
They’re working awfully hard to tamp that down. Joe Klein is over at the swamp saying he’s jumped the shark. Far as I can tell, the pilot still hasn’t aired.
My comment to NYtimes
“Great editorial. I have three followup questions:
1. To what extent has the Mainstream Media and the NYTimes been complicit in cooperating with the Bush coverups?
2. Where was the Opposition Party whose oath is to the Consitution and “We the People”?
3. How does the hiring of discreditted neocon Kristol reflect a desire to stop this media complicity?
Multiple personality disorder. Plead insanity and then you don’t have to admit your complicity in the crime….
Editorial? Or lament? Keening cry of mourning? What have we done, what have we stood silently by….
Excellent posting, Scarecrow. The NYT and WaPoo and MSM have been willing pawns in this chess game. Editorial decisions printed stenography. Editorial decisions selected stories to publish. Editorial decisions withheld the truth and distorted elections. When the First Amendment is corrupted, none others need apply.
what a great piece scarecrow
I blame pelosi by the way
does the times let you respond on line?
I would love to contribute a letter but I find no comments link, is there none?
Happy New Year from the land of oz. Ninite time in Far North Queensland. :-)
ooos, found it
http://community.nytimes.com/a.....1mon1.html
Might I encourage you here at the Constitutional core of the Democratic Party to end the year digging for the Constitution
I blame Rahm Emanuel(sp?) and Steny Hoyer (and the Dems who selected Steny) more than I blame Pelosi.
Happy New Year Novista!
well, that’s the comments page but I can’t get “post a comment” to load
too bad
OfT again:
Seems that Indiana is reviving the attempt to constitutionally ban both gay marriage and that gay couples be allowed any of the legal incidents of marriage. *s*
Comments section is predictably full of bible-thumping, “it’s my right and duty to tell you what’s right”, but with an encouraging number of more reasonable voices as well.
should anyone care to enter a comment on the topic, go here:
http://www.topix.net/forum/sou.....6#lastPost
The Gray Lady does Lady Macbeth!
It’s nice that the NYT has somehow seen the light at this late date but as others have asked, where have they been for the last 7 years? We are all, to a greater or lesser degree, complicit in the destruction of our nation. There was never the proper outrage and many of the acts of this administration deserved riots in the streets and national strikes. We all need to take our responsibilities as citizens with more seriousness and redouble our efforts to restore our nation.
I also hold we, the voters, responsible. Bush should have never garnered enough votes in 00 or 04 to get close enough to steal the elections.
I blame corporate Amerika. The rules you must abide by to maintain good standing with your employer would make Stalin proud.
They have bred passivity amongst the citizenry, who have swallowed the “…government has no place in business” BS.
This, while the Constitution says just the opposite.
Perris@30 try this: letters@nytimes.com
It has truly bothered me that none of the issue papers address the healing of our constitution. None of them mention what has to happen to bring our justice system back on board. None of them have dared to talk about the conspiracies that have led us to this point (tin foil hats are not welcomed in many places). And yet we have our constitution shredded. We have a president who does not ever fail us in ignoring laws. Our department of justice is now lower case and a joke. Our getting here to this point has been a conspiracy of people known as neocons. And cons they surely are and they ought to be cons in prison. But no, we are forced to view them as “normal” as “law abiding” because the so-called opposition party doesn’t do opposition. I cannot think of a more chilling way to bring in a new year.
if we are unrecognizable to the craptastic times…what are they to us
the megaphone for liars…and the continue in the role today
they have completely bought into the surge is a success meme
forgetting the alleged purpose is now off the table
what a bunch of liars
The New York Times sufferers from Schizophrenia. Tomorrow they will issue an apology as they front page all manner of right wing rhetoric. And Bill Kristol? The man is a parody of himself.
That’s a good new year’s resolution.
Nice of them to point out the obvious.
What is Bloody Bill going to do now that he is on the inside?
Activate his secret decoder ring and call them traitors again?
Yes, Emanuel and St. Hoyer are accomplices or worse. I find it more and more difficult to describe the problems, because you need something the length of Hugh’s list.
Just back from the NYT site. I went intending to read the full editorial in its own text. Instead, I read this, and I hope you will, too:
After a Son’s Death, a Shared Mission
We ragtag army of voices have a Gladiator. His name is John Edwards.
The comments responding to the editorial are really great. Quite a few say, in effect: “Great, but where’s the last paragraph — the one demanding impeachment?”
If these crimes aren’t impeachable, that leaves only blow jobs.
When I first started working in Russia in ‘96 I was proud of what our country stood for, and held up our nation as an example of what they could become. No more. Very sad to watch our international reputation slide into the gutter.
I’m always dumbfounded when people I talk to in my life have no idea about what has REALLY happened over the past seven years. My fear is that whoever is elected next year is not going to change things to the degree that we want it. After the 2006 election it didn’t take long for me to realize that we were used to get some of the Democrats elected for they have not carried out their promises they made to us! Will that happen again? Gawd, I hope not.
Right on, Scarecrow. Brilliant post.
If by 2012 things haven’t changed, we’re in deep doo doo. Maybe we should start NOW in forming a viable third party just in case?
I’m with you, Prairie Sunshine. Edwards is the man.
Yep. I’m in for Edwards too.
Egregious, I would be very interested to see how refuseniks and dissidents in Russia were treated and then compare and contrast to our new gulag system.
Needless to say, behavior that we were outraged by back then will be the behavior that the New Empire finds necessary these days.
Really very sad and inuriating.
-G
Thanks Scarecrow, stark and blunt.
got it, thanks
I am over here
http://community.nytimes.com/a.....ostComment
and they have a recommend button!
I think we’re going to need a New Year’s Resolutions post — a what we’ll do list to get our country back.
I don’t think we’re at the Gulag level yet, but isn’t it amazing that we could even be having this conversation? How has it come to this.
though it won’t be done, the first thing that really needs to take place is that we bring criminals to the bar of justice
not gonna happen and that makes getting the country back a little more difficult
I read this too. wonderful.
We do have a champion. I hate that they want to ruin him. Guy on C-span saying Edwards is a good closer.
They will do anything to ruin him. But he is electable in the National race.
I believe that 50 years from now, the legal/political decision to treat corporations as legal persons will be considered with the Civil War as the two most important events in the post-Revolutionary history of the United States.
I SO agree with this statement
How has it come to this…
Niemoller said it, the labels may have changed, but it still applies. The face in the mirror needs to be all of us. Resolved to do better.
They came for the
gypsiesimmigrants….They came for the
gaysgays….….
They came for the
JewsConstitution….They came for me and there was no one left to do anything…..
“There are too many moments these days when we cannot recognize our country.”
so what does the NY Times do to rectify that situation - they hand one of the biggest megaphones in the world over to that skank, that nation destroyer, the amoral shaft-the-poor warmonger always lying sack of crap bill kristol. F**k the NY Times and their bullshit, their complete lack of responsibility to the nation and the constitution, and any kind of moral underpinning; with their phony crocodile tears. This is the same paper that brought us Whitewater, the Judith Miller lies and cheerleading to invade Iraq, and now bill kristol.
Well, I resolve we DO bring them to justice. However long it takes.
General Barry McCaffrey liar for bush, just said the civil war in Eyerack is over and we will be bringing troops home soon.
Contemptible Brewer, msgop whore, well can’t we just replace the malaki govt
I couldn’t agree more.
-G
Scarecrow,
Excellent post. I welcome the editorial that the NYT has published. It is about time. I am saddened that our Democratic leaders have shirked their constitutional duties.
What recourse do Americans have when the sole person responsible for bringing the law breakers to justice, refuses to? I guess it is protests, boycotts, sit-ins, strikes?
Obviously, this past year of taking impeachment off the table and working to put forth an agenda for change was an abominable failure. The Repubs have stuck together and blocked anything meaningful to happen. I am of the opinion that 2008’s congress should solely focus on bringing the law-breakers to justice. Nothing else is going to get done anyway.
Camps have been built and more are in the pipeline, and the corporate mercenaries are ready to guard them.
Best political blog in 2007: FireDogLake
Best progressive blog in 2007: FireDogLake
Worst political blog in 2007: MichelleMalkin.com
The NY Times has me so fucking pissed off right now that I have resolved–at least for the time being–to refuse to visit their Web site.
I’ll second that motion.
Are these actual results of a poll? If so, linky?
Always choose your enemies with great care - you become like them
They’re the results of my own privately conducted market-tested poll…*g*
What is incomprehensible is that the Democrats, with control of the Congress, refuse to respond in any meaningful way to Bush’s persistent breaking of the law. In this they are utterly complicit.
So if they have Kristol, wont the wingnuts read the Times? maybe that is good.
you are? and there is a recommend button?
well then, I think I’ll go over there and hit that button!
thank you, I appreciate it!
Right on.
If there is one General that annoys me, it is McCaffrey.
When he talks, it’s like being at a Pentagon briefing…
I’d like to stick a copy of Tocqueville’s Democracy in America
in his fucking mouth…
This is WAY OT, but some pups were speculating the other day as to what exactly the huge container was that washed up on the beach in the UK.
They figured out what it is. Its a beer fermentation tank… mmmmmmm… beer.
Morning Scarecrow and all
It seems to me the first amendment covers the right and duty of a free press to keep us informed of what our elected representatives ,not leaders,are doing in our name.
Get out in the battle field and show the unexploded bomb-lets from the cluster bombs ,the torture in action, the inner workings of gitmo- no rules prohibiting the freedom of the press means what the hell it says. Embedded reporters my ass more like government propaganda agents. This is bullshit the great New York Times never shows the consequences of the business end of our wondrous weapon systems against the frail humans they are used against in order to” project power”
anyway, here’s my comment over at the times
http://community.nytimes.com/a.....&pg=5
Finders keepers?
When you analyze current Congressional politics correctly, there is nothing at all incomprehensible about what is going on.
First, unlike “the Republicans”, “the Democrats” does not refer to a unified Congressional voting block. “The Deomcrats” refers to a diverse set of voting blocks who happen to caucus together.
Second, it is not “the Democrats” who possess Congressional majorities for any purpose other than parliamentary ones. The current Congressional majority is a corporatist coalition of Republicans and “conservative” Democrats who are fully in favor of everything that is going on right now.
The progressive wing of the Democratic Party simply does not have the electoral power to advance its agenda right now. Complaining the “the Democrats” are ineffectual and complicit is both erroneous and pointless.
What we need to do is elect progressive Dems in the hopes of creating a progressive Democratic voting bloc with enough power to drive the Congressional agenda. We simply don’t have it right now. In this regard, it is useful to vigorously and continuously (a la Glenn Greenwald) point out which Dems are not supporting a progressive agenda (many of whom pretend to), so that we can get rid of them.
Contemptible Brewer, msgop whore, well can’t we just replace the malaki govt
Isn’t it interesting that the gooper-impaired see no contradiction in their constant cries that ‘we’re there to give democracy to Iraq”, getting all giddy over purple fingers, and then calling for our intervention into the Iraqi democratic process whenever it suits their issue-of-the-moment?
everything you said - right on the money.
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Times Editorial…. selected words … in blank verse:
My heart is pounding, palpitations, sweaty palms, lightheaded, and weak kneed, and it’s not the flu. Is it love that has got the blood running? Yes. The Washington Post has an article on FREE access to internet classes at Yale, Berkley, MIT, etc…”With video, you can watch Shelly Kagan, the well-known Yale philosopher, asking students about existence and what makes someone’s life worthwhile….The focus is sharp enough to see the sticks of chalk at the blackboard, the laces on his Converse All-Stars. You can watch his black eyebrows fly up and down as he makes points. You can see which books are on the syllabus and get the assignments online.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....id=topnews
Free video access to Ivy League and top 10 universities classes via the internet will revolutionize education. Imagine highschools using this as part of the curriculum in classrooms. Education is the key to a free society.
New Years resolution: going to Yale, MIT, and Berkley via the internet for free
How does the NY Times is bipolar, editorial writers recognizing the outrages of this adm, at the same time hiring Bill Kristol, the lead cheerleader for those outrages.
Speaking of the Gray Lady:
Matt Bai, who covers the “leftist blogosphere” for the rag, gives Steven Gilliard a shoutout in the Sunday Magazine’s “The Lives They Lived” special year-end section.
Jane was one of those “few dozen mostly white bloggers” who was at Steve’s funeral.
Missing edit.
Damn. I gotta give that a try when I lecture.
When are your lectures at Yale going online for free?
Comments the Times’ editor (for some odd reason) refused to publish:
But Maxine from Dallas screaming “Love it or leave it!” — that they publish.
Outstanding letter perris.
Pach took on this on Saturday, pointing out some of the errors in Bai’s piece.
Thanks! I was at the Lake on Saturday morning early afternoon, but had already left when that post went up.
I too proudly remain unpublished at the Grey Lady. I was neither rude nor abusive… I guess complicity and Kristol set off filters like A%#ac does here*g*
They never take mine either!
I’m sure that you were deemed ‘not serious’ and perhaps even ‘partisanly shrill’.
-G
is mine there?
I see it, does anyone else?
The NYTimes does not recognize the f*cking country that Chimpy has wrought…
They finally published it, Jim and you’ve already gotten 9 recommends!
The AP on Chimpy’s decrepit upcoming and final year:
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No, they don’t feel these things, because they are down with the program.
Most people know that the epic battles between steroidal giants in proffessional wrasslin’ are fake, the insults, affronts and outrages perpetrated by the ‘heel’ on the ‘face’ are just part of they show, and keep the crowd riled up, yearning for a retributory smackdown by the good guys.
Why can’t concerned, moral, Liberals and Progressives ever see this pattern in the political dramas discussed endlessly here?
The (D)’s and the (R)’s are fundamentally on the same team, and their interests overlap minimally with ours.
wrasslin’ fans are more self-aware, at some level, of the basic structure of their ’sport’ than (D) captured netrootsians.
Bush hasn’t done a damn thing out of “panic and ideology.”
He’s NEVER felt panic (always someone else’s problem).
Ideology? He just wants everyone to believe he’s an ideologue.
He’s just narcissistic, moronic, manipulatable, corrupt, and without conscience.
Let’s not lose sight of that.
Christy has a sparkling new post available upstairs.