Via the Group News Blog, I see Matt Bai has a piece on our friend (and occasional Firedoglake contributor) the late Steve Gilliard for this weekend’s New York Times Magazine. It’s not a bad piece overall, by any means. I continue to be glad the NYT is giving Steve some of his posthumous due.
That said, it does suffer from some of the same blindnesses we’ve become accustomed to in the work of our self-selected chronicler on behalf of the establishment.
I arrived at Steve’s wake before everyone but a handful of family members, and attended the funeral, a light skinned latino: I saw a number of bloggers of color there, though the white folk in attendance mostly were Steve’s political friends, not just bloggers. Air America’s Sam Seder arrived at the wake very shortly after I did.
The establishment has this imperative, it seems, to represent the blogosphere as purely bleached out, when it isn’t representing the blogosphere as all male. The Group News Blog gently points out how Bai’s piece depicts a white throng of alien bloggers on cultural safari to East Harlem. . . because both Bai and the Times, I guess, have mad street cred, and Bai himself personally interviewed all these attendees to discover their personal backgrounds and life experiences (hint: not).
And while I have no doubt at all Matt Bai knows what it is to awaken in a stranger’s bed, I don’t think Steve viewed his own life as lacking in human warmth or personal connection. He wrote effusively of his connections to friends near home, Jen not least of all, and his devotion to his niece and nephew made blogospheric legend.
What Steve did understand, in a way Bai never has, is that love of topic, and doing a lot of fucking work to understand a topic on its own terms, can itself be enjoyable, a bridge through which to forge real connections with others. Bai writes shallow personality driven pieces that always seem to fit his preconceived notions, making him precisely the kind of journalist Steve used to skewer with such inimitable abandon (see Zengerle, Jason).
It’s therefore ironic, in a way, that Bai would be the one to write this piece. I wonder what Steve would say, and how many f-bombs would be in it, were he here to read Matt Bai do his intellectually lazy hanger on shtick once again, this time at Steve’s expense, depicting him in part as a socially awkward geek wanting for human warmth (nope, no lazy blogger stereotypes in there, eh, and doesn’t everyone know that all single people are hopelessly lonely)?
With each Bai piece I read, no matter what the subject, it seems I just get more of a read on. . . Matt Bai. Just as Bai tried to make himself the biggest personality on the stage at the Ykos candidates forum last summer, alongside Clinton, Obama, Edwards and the rest, he keeps showing up like the guy who never really felt quite cool enough, who tried always to insert himself into the "it" cafeteria table by whatever means necessary.
For all that crap, the piece itself is not all bad, and as I said, I’m extremely glad it’s been written. Steve deserved a regular NYT op-ed more than William The Bloody "Wrong About Everything" Kristol ever could.
Steve (or as your family called you, "Stevie"), we still miss you achingly, terribly.
Every fucking day.



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zed 4 me?
I haven’t been around here or the internets, really all that long. So I was not familiar with Mr. Gilliard or his work. But from the great outpouring of respect, admiration and love I’ve witnessed, clearly, it’s my loss.
Same here. Driftglass, whose opinion I trust emphatically, had a moving piece on Gilliard today:
http://driftglass.blogspot.com…..rd-jr.html
First off: Fuck Bai.
I was utterly horrified at his ‘performance’ at yKos. If I’d been there I would most certainly have called him out on the spot….asshole.
As for Steve there is really only one thing paramount:
Fight Back!
By contrast, Phsysio, I’m not getting such a good impression of this Bai fellow.
Steve is probably laughing loudly, especially knowing how folks like Jesse and you have got his back.
RIP, Steve — we’ll do the f-ing work from here.
[Perhaps a bit of spotlighting to the NYT might be in order, perhaps both to Matt and the public editor.]
We have truly become a nation of narcissistic assholes.
I haven’t been hanging around long enough to know Steve either, but I just read some of his posts, and I’m sorry he is gone.
Matt Bai is a MoDo drag king.
Lonely black man blogger gets internet respect and white friends because readers can’t tell his race. Friends brave a trip to Harlem (!) to honor his life, cluster together for safety.
Stupid, disrespectful, and shallow above all: that’s our Matt!
I hope that Bai & MoDo tag-team interview the eventual Democratic nominee at NN in Austin. Attendees may learn all sorts of exciting things of the boxers-or-briefs, shaken-or-stirred, rollon-or-spray variety.
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Miss Steve Gilliard. Every day.
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I haven’t read the piece, and I’ve never heard of Bai or read his work, but the consensus among those who knew Gilliard seems to be that Bai is totally off the mark on what Gilliard was really like.
I am so pissed off at the NY Times right now, that I have sworn off going to their Web site. The egregious garbage they have been publishing–and the hiring of “the Isiah Thomas of war” (I love that, TBogg!)–is just too much for me to give them my clicks.
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PhysioProf
Did you read Krugman’s column on U.S. foreign trade the other day? He points out several more reasons why you can’t expect it to be much of an engine of growth for the U.S. despite the drop in the $$ vis-a-vis developed countries’ currencies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12…..ref=slogin
I don’t think I have ever read anything that Mr. Gilliard did. I didn’t start looking at blogs until about the time of his passing. Looks as though I missed out. Does anyone have a favorite piece and link to something he did?
I didn’t. As much as I respect Krugman, I really don’t want to patronize the Times right now. If you are so inclined, a few bullet points would be appreciated.
Gilly lives on as long as someone says….fuck the fucking Yankees.
You’ve got mail.
I wasn’t around to ‘know” Steve Gilliard, but anyone who can be so eloquent about the Yankees had to be a good person.
Yeah the whole piece was totally patronizing. Bai didn’t know Steve, he wasn’t at the funeral, he’s trying to shoe-horn it into his standard “blogger” narrative (as well as a few other stereotypes) and unsurprisingly, it just doesn’t fit.
Once again, it’s more about Matt Bai than anything else. Though I’m sure he won’t be the last to try and crib Steve’s legacy.
Wow. That’s a real tough one.
He used to post like 5 new pieces late at night, east coast time, and each was original, fresh, often raucous, always insightful and incisive. His perspective was so unique no one has been able to fill the niche he held, and thankfully, no one has been fool enough to try.
I’d stay up to read his stuff, though he sometimes posted into the wee hours.
I first found Steve through…hot dogs. Somebody had linked to a post Steve did discussing an article in the NYT about the great hot dogs in NYC. He ended it with “OK, can people explain one thing: why do the people of Chicago hide their hot dogs under a salad?”
The comments that followed were some of the funniest and best food posts I had ever read. I was hooked, and loyal reader from that day forward.
The original post is here…
http://stevegilliard.blogspot……ebate.html
And to hear Mr. Bush tell it, the economy is rosy and were winning in Iraq. Everything is fine. That’s why many folks are scared to death we are going to slip into a nasty recession and that Bush may well succeed in blowing up the world.
I hope that the Rs keep thinking that until the 08 election. It’s so much easier to run against people who are out of touch with reality. Especially on the economy, where people KNOW what’s going on.
OK. Finished one of my “started but abandoned in the middle” books, and am going to make another push to finish another one or two before New Years. It’s the yearend pressure to get my #s up! Great fun. Will check in later.
I just read Bai’s piece before slipping in the back door again.
It is obvious he is describing what he sees from a distant perspective.
Yes, he gives Gilly some of the mad props he so richly deserves but he does it from a third floor window perspective,IMO.
I can’t say I can do anything else either as I was late to find Steve myself.
From what I saw though, Gilly was a fierce motherfucker in his sense of family and his use of the gift given to him to see beyond what was less than obvious to a lot of us in the first place.
He was truly a good man and in the end, if there is anything at all that matters,that is the highest compliment of all.
Pachu; as an old Gilliardista, I say, Grazi! :o)
Wonder what Mr. Gilliard’s take on Mr. Huckabee would be?
Yes, Pachacutec — very well wrought, this post.
Thanks, man. No one could call bullshit like Steve, but I couldn’t let this one pass, if only from loyalty to Steve.
just a fast look-in as i’m in and out all day…i had just become acquainted with steve gilliard and found out he was ill….but what i read in his posts was very enlightening and i still check the newsblog from time to time… and i WAS a subscriber to the times…. no longer after bloody kristol’s been hired!! and the only people doing well now are those who are already extremely wealthy imo…
And what of Jen?
She went through the wringer.
IIRC, she was dealing with all kinds of shit while Gilly was in the hospital and still managing to give updates for all of the worried folks.
I certainly send her well wishes.
I had found Steve’s blog somewhere along the line. He was great a offering rejoinders in his comment threads.
That was quite fun to see.
-G
As far as Chimpy is concerned, just as the Iraq war seems to have settled on slow stew and the Republicans want to talk about it is the time that the economy is going noticeably into the shitter. Now people are concerned about that….Sort of the Carville mantra.
G-Dub is also stuck in the same boat as his slap-happy-pappy trying to claim the economy is good while people are suffering.
He’s making himself into such an out of touch villain.
Oh lord, that would be worth the price of admission now, wouldn’t it?
Wish I could tag-team with him again. We had a lot of fun doing that.
What I remember most of Gilly was his generosity of spirit and his astonishing wit and brilliance.
Bai wants us all to play our assigned roles in his self romance and so misses the wonder of great souls like Gilly.
Still, it is good that Steve is recognized … and would be lovely if someone would collect his posts and publish them for a wider audience.
Bai = phones-it-in wannabe
Thanks, Pach.
“Invisible Blogger” hardly. And I wonder if the NYT has Steve’s year of birth correct. They say 64, many posts from last June say 66.
Bai makes me wonder wonder why its so hard to judge people by their actions and words and not by whether they’ve been invited on evening political teevee. His observations about the physical characteristics of his subjects creates an image and that makes for good writing but he inevitably draws conclusions about his subjects from those observations that are nothing short of conjecture and I find that objectionable.
Hmmm… Who determined this to be the best of FDL for ‘07? Inquiring minds would like to know… ;-)
Pach, you’re being much too tough on Bai, in my view. Getting Steve into the lives section was a good thing. I honestly don’t think he was being patronizing, as Jane suggests, either. Sure, it’s his viewpoint and you may well disagree with the emphasis – but thanks to Matt Bai, Steve Gilliard was remembered with the likes of Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., Luciano Pavarotti, Brooke Astor, Ike Turner, Lady Bird Johnson and Jack Valenti. I’m just glad more people will see the name.
‘64 is the correct year, though in the first few days we were all drawing from one errant source on the year. I forget where we all got it from, maybe an email.
I am sorry but that was an ad hominem attack on someone that lent little to the conversation. If it should not be discussed in the thread it should no have been there.
I am staying in this thread as requested. I posted the piece about Costa’s and Holloway as an example. I think he is a critical thinker who approaches his work with integrity. The are may examples of excesses in sports, entertainment, corporate America. I simply don’t think it was right to jump Costas. I also am fully prepared to get all fucking wise ass if some one wants to.
Hey Raven,
Thanks for bringing your comments to the previous thread and clarifying that we’re not talking about Gilly in the reference above to the “ad hominem attack”.
Not at all. I realize that there is an anti-sports tilt on the Lake just like there is with most of my friends here in Athens. I realize that sports can be taken to extremes but I also find that they add a meaning and richness to the lives of many people. If the statement did not single one person out I would have been fine with it. Who is to say who does, and does not, contribute to the greater good. Not I.
There was a post by Jane I think that described her last meeting with Steve, and watching him walk away with a backpack on into the sea of people on a NYC sidewalk. Not sure why, but that visual has always stayed with me very vividly, kind of like a closing shot in a great movie.
I wonder if it has to do with the idea that any “average Joe” can have such an impact on so many people. So many say things like, “Well what can I do…I’m just one person?” or “I’m not from a family with money or connections, so why bother?” and other such excuses, but Gilliard, Jane, and many others throughout history have shown that anyone can make a difference, as long as you go for it.
Now, off to find my backpack.
Responding to TinSF way up at Gordie Howe’s number above…..
“Lonely black man blogger gets internet respect and white friends because readers can’t tell his race.”
Interesting that.
I guess Mr. Bai was a little late to the true Tao of Steve as well.
Or maybe he just missed it all together.
Because, clearly, Mr. Bai wasn’t there for this.
“Yesterday was an amazing day, in that the trolls were met and faced down. I can’t say I’ve ever been this impressed with a group of posters before.
So there’s no confusion, let me state outright that I think Jonah Goldberg and Rich Lowry are racists. Now, they’re not the cross burning kind, but their ongoing contempt for the state and intelligence of black people is so obvious and clear cut, their denials are, at best, comical. They, like so many white people before them, want to pick who will influence and lead black people with no idea of what black people think or expect. Anyone who praises Charles Murray and says black people should support social security theft because they die earlier, has no respect for black people. Just because they don’t curse black people doesn’t mean they like them. We do know the difference.
Goldberg fucked up because he didn’t realize how silly he would look calling a black man a racist. Then when he got hammered, he had to say I looked silly. Well, Atrios proved who was silly yesterday.”
And that, was from January 2005!
You know, for me, Mr. Gilliard and his writing was every thing that Billmon and his was not wasn’t.
And that’s saying a lot.
A whole goddamned king hell of a lot.
Heckfire, I think I’m gonna skip the turkey for New Years and go straight for the Beer Can Chicken.
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*I always loved it when (notsoJersey)JamesWoolcott commented, tongue-in-cheek, about Mr. G’s penchant for cursing.
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I linked that post by Jane above in the first paragraph.
They reprinted that piece in the booklet at Steve’s funeral. The family found it quite compelling as well.
Thanks for that link. Some great quotes out of there:
“I don’t care what conservatives think. The NRO Corner thinks I’m a racist, I don’t care, their opinions on race are meaningless….I’m not writing to make conservatives happy. I want them to hate my opinions. I’m not interested in debating them. I want to stop them.” “
I wish more or all Liberals would understand this essential point. There should be some sort of “Debate Class” for Liberals. The first assignment is to read all of Gilliard’s posts.
Oh fantastic! I’m not much of a saver or organizer, but I did save your post about Fitz at the end of the Scooter trial, and now I’ll have this one from Jane. Thanks again.
bonkers @ 45–
You’re very, very welcome.
Mr. Gilliard really did stomp on the terra.
And I would love it if any of the denizens could update us on how Jen is doing.
I always loved reading about her and Steve’s outings, especially the ones they took with his sister’s kids.
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I think the one thing that I miss most about Steve is when I read the News Blog, I felt someone out there was just as outraged and as aggrieved.
Here is what I thought at the time of his passing.
This is my all-time favorite Steve Gilliard manifesto, the Fighting Liberal piece:
Be like Steve. Be a fighting liberal. It’s still stunning to me how much I miss someone I never really knew.
Thank you for sharing this commentary. Truly a creed for all of us to hold dear.
And thanks, Pach, for this post, which has added valuable clarity and depth to the surface commentary of the NYT piece.
Hell yeah! I remember that one, and will now be saving and committing it to memory. Thanks for re-posting.
I just wish I had known more about Gilliard before he died. What a loss for me. We could really use him now.
And Pachacutec — you seem to have keen insite into Bai and his ilk. (You would think most blog readers would, but, alas, no.)
Great article.
Grrrr — INSIGHT, not INSITE.
There are always a certain amount of Fighting Liberals in a society. “Fighting” Bob LaFollette was a Presidential candidate and US Senator that tried to keep the US out of WWI, and faced severe ridicule and scorn for it, but he was never deterred.
http://www.fightingbob.com/aboutbob.cfm
Our task is to create so many Fighting Liberals that fascists can never exert any control. America was founded by Fighting Liberals. This is the main battle in our society. BigMoney always attempts to silence us either through brute force or through the media. It’s not likely we’ll be able to beat them on the brute force front, and who would want that bloodbath anyway, so we must start by taking over the main messaging that influences the electorate. FDL and other sites have made major inroads on this front, but we still have so far to go.
The movie “V for Vendetta” covers this issue in a most interesting way.
One of the real beauties of the internet is that Steve Gilliard is still only one click away.
His thoughts and words live on and are just as relevant today and tomorrow as they were the day he set the electrons in motion.
He got it right, there is no compromise, they don’t want it. It is up to us to call out the the ones who long for the days gone by when they could treat people as non entities not deserving the common decency of even acknowledging their existence.
God Speed Mr. Gilliard,
We fight back.
Steve’s Fighting Liberal stance, which went way beyond the great post quoted above, was coupled with another insight — because the righties are such demonstrated cowards, they’d fold up like a cheap suit if we hit them hard a few times. Unfortunately, few other liberals — and this includes popular bloggers, who are in a position to land a blow on the smug and complacent “conservative” ascendancy do so, and almost none of our “champions” in Congress possess Steve’s courage or commitment. In some ways, I’m glad that Steve was spared the sight of Reid, Pelosi, and the other leaders of the post-2006 majority rolling over for President 30 Percent. The outpouring of admiration and affection that followed first his death and then his flawed memorial in Sunday’s Times expresses not only our gratitude for what Steve did but our fear that we liberals have lost an irreplaceable asset.
Can you imagine such loving eulogies for Lopez, Goldberg, Lowry, Hewitt, Instacracker, Hindrocket, or any of the other righties?
Thanks very much Pach.
Everyone’s memories and thoughts about Gilly have given to a very reflective Saturday.
It’s as if we had been living in darkness for the last seven years.
Steve lit up our night.
So fight back, Liberals and Firedogs.
And fuck the fucking Yankees.
Jeebus I still get verklempt thinking about Steve.
Fuck the fuckin Yankees! (and go Pats, until the GBP kicks your asses)
Damn I miss Steve. He was our integrity. We soldier on …