I know the "intelligent design" crowd are a bit slow on the uptake when it comes to stuff like evolution, but consensus reality really does hold that China does not share a border with the US:
On Thursday night he told reporters in Orlando, Fla.: “We ought to have an immediate, very clear monitoring of our borders and particularly to make sure if there’s any unusual activity of Pakistanis coming into the country.”
On Friday, in Pella, Iowa, he expanded on those remarks.
“When I say single them out I am making the observation that we have more Pakistani illegals coming across our border than all other nationalities except those immediately south of the border,” he told reporters in Pella. “And in light of what is happening in Pakistan it ought to give us pause as to why are so many illegals coming across these borders.”
In fact, far more illegal immigrants come from the Philippines, Korea, China and Vietnam, according to recent estimates from the Department of Homeland Security.
Huckabee, ever on the cutting edge of the immigration forefront (well, at least since he decided there was one) alerts us to a heretofore unheralded problem at the border:
“The fact is the immigration issue is not so much about people coming to pick lettuce or make beds. It’s about people that can come with a shoulder fired missile and can do serious damage and harm to us, and that’s what we need to be worried about. And the unsecure borders that we have pose a real national security threat.”
That whole fence thing suddenly starts to make more sense. Going to be damn hard to scale with an FIM 92-Stinger strapped to your back.



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Oh the Huck stupid.. it burns, IT BURNS!
hiya jane!
world geography, 9th grade. want me to send him my old book and notes?
I don’t like Huck.
But I like him because I believe he says what he believes.
With that logic, you must LOVE Bush and Cheney and Romney and all the others who claim to not believe in things like the Constitution or science.
You know that all we need is a Huckabible. Books are written by the secular-progressive, egghead, atheistic, college communist types.
-Mike Huckabees’ Policy Apostle
Beware of Pakistanis in Ponchos.
Aw Gee! Huck was just trying to CONTRAST himself with his opposition
Osama Bin Escobar.
-G
I’m more concerned with middle age to older white guys who fear the lost of a white male dominated society more then anything else.
Evening all.
Simply believing what one says is no virtue. I’ve heard all sorts of nuts espouse crazy bs that they believed with all their hearts. To the contrary, his sincerity may make him more dangerous, as he may really believe he has a direct line to God.
Now that scares me. I would much prefer a salesman of limited scope than an apocalyptic true believer.
Sure would nice if a reporter would ask Huckabee (or all the other candidates who voice almost identical opinions about how this is all about “security”, e.g., McCain just to name one) why they haven’t proposed building a fence along the Canadian border.
Huckster may want to propose that anyone caught sneaking over the border
be asked the following question (courtesy of Frank Zappa):
Is that a real poncho, I mean is that a Mexican poncho or a Sears poncho?
Geography knowledge worthy of a beauty queen. Maybe they went to the same school.
doesn’t security mean checking all the boxes and cartons and stuff that comes in on ships? are they talking about doing that?
Yeah, that’d be real security…but it would slow down business, and there’s no way the people who own those corporations and fund the elections are going to allow that.
It would surely be more likely Huckster dear, that the Pakistanis are watching their borders for any unusual activity of Americans crossing into their country. Ya know, like in the Aye-rack.
What a bonehead.
Beware of Pakistanis in
Ponchosrowboats.And boy, are their arms tired…
Correction: teh Aye-rack.
Mr. Huckabee is not very cosmopolitan.
Sometimes I think Huckabee is purposely inviting attack in the hopes that his base (the persecuted and the martyred) will rally round.
Huck’s an idiot, but he’s DeeCee’s useful idiot. If he can take out Romney in Iowa and Rudi in Florida, then Old Lord McCain can cruise to victory. McCain’s the Establishment candidate now, don’t you suppose? And, as Fineman just pointed out on Tweety’s program, “the surge is working, and that benefits McCain.”
And I’m really mad at Eugene Robinson right now, since he laughed along with Noron, Tweety, and Fineman about how Democratic caucus results are reported later than GOPs in Iowa. They all giggled and mocked the Democrats for being slower and less organized than the GOP, with no recognition that the GOP’s caucus is simply a meaningless night-time straw poll: you show up, vote, and leave. Democrats have a real caucus, with a second ballot for supporters of candidates who fail to achieve “viability,” usually 15% of the precinct’s attendance.
Just another way for TradMed to make Democrats look hapless, to laugh at them for reporting later. Our Iowa process takes longer because it matters more and enfranchises more people. I wouldn’t expect Noron, Tweety, or Fineman to even know that, but Gene Robinson does, I bet, and he should have pointed that out.
I think I’ll mention it to him next time he has a WaPo0 chatz.
Oh, and this is certainly good news for Republicans, right?
Gotta run. See everyone later.
It doesn’t matter, because even he admits it’s a miracle that he’s having such success…God’s driving Huck’s campaign bus.
Ooooo….Lou Dobbs show is talking about this after the break…Huck’s “bizarre” comments about foreign policy….No, I don’t watch it, but it’s on the teevee for noise…and the occasional yuck, yuck.
Hiya Mr Teddy San Fran!
Hiya SK!
Hmm, so only illegal immigrants pose as RPG-wielding risks, eh?
…uttered in the hometown of Pella Door and Window Co. There’s your security problem right there, Huck… they’re coming right through the door at ya!
Dakine at 4
I agree.
I’m just frustrated with candidates who say stuff they don’t believe.
they just don;t like people without pink skin
Huckabee. Did he come from outerspace? Because all of us come from immigrant families at one point or another.
At any rate, so much for humanity toward persons from troubled countries. Strikes me that the trouble may be the reason for the immigration. It often is. In my neck of the woods, whenever there are a lot of people coming from one country, usually the Catholic church has a hand in it. I respect them for that. A good friend of the family (practically my surrogate mother) was from Vietnam and helped to this country (out of Korean refugee camp) by the Catholic church. Funny that they did the work considering her husband was an officer in the S. Viet airforce.
Get Huck a map?
If he doesn’t believe in evolution what makes you think he will believe a map?
CNN is slamming Huckabee….his aide says, he has no foreign policy knowledge…D’oh???? D’ya think?
CNN’s Dana Bash reporting on this — also noting that Huck’s advisor acknowledged today that his guy has “no foreign policy credential,” so they decided to talk about Pakistan in terms of immigration.
They really don’t like people who don’t pray their way.
Depends on the map. Some maps have evolved; but others are the result of intelligent design.
Maybe the Huckster can get Cheney to stay on as VP.
Huck has no chance, because he’s not tied into corporate power.
HRC will be the victor.
Then it will be interesting to see what the left leaning blogs say about her presidency.
If he doesn’t believe in evolution what makes you think he will believe a map?
Might work – maps are flat.
Globes, otoh, well those are just evil.
You noticed!
With these jokers I put nothing past them. Nothing.
Good time to share this
Science vs. Faith flowchart
Umm, probably the same things we have to say on Harry Reid?
poor Huck might have been breathing too much hairspray,many dead neurons i believe
not so fast bub
Yes don’t jinx us.
Hillary cited “one particular credibility issue” as to why an international investigation into Bhutto’s assassination should not be conducted by the U.S. Hmmmm…wonder
whowhat she was referring to precisely??Given huck’s statement, he also seems to believe that Pakistanis are coming over like pod people to form cells and snatch brains and bodies or something.
What? The U.S. isn’t that impartial? Hmmmm.
This lefty blogger will be with the anti-war effort to find a Democrat to challenge Prez HRC in 2012, should it come to pass. Count on it.
Yep. He’s a dolt, alright. But, this will not preclude him from being the nominee.
It’s astonishing that Huckabee is actually a serious contender. A man of his stature and talents belongs in some sort of museum or perhaps a zoo. For gawd’s sake. And this individual certainy should never be in control of nuclear weapons.
The stupid republicans wasted no time trying to springboard from Bhutto’s killing, and while pouring billions into a failed investment in Mushariff, did nothing to try to protect Bhutto or get Mushariff to provide real protection. Every 5th rate State Department official had more protection from a contractor, many of whom were helped to violate numerous federal arms laws by the State Department.
Idiot Rudy, the most hated politician prior to 911, who as Vanity Fair’s Graydon Carter wrote
“Grasping, petty, and vengeful, he was the sort of politician who runs for higher office not so much because he can then reward those who helped him along, but because he can punish those who didn’t…with the exception of Osama bin Ladin, nobody has cashed in more on that fateful day.”
Besides Bin Ladin, Rudy’s stupid choices helped kill the biggest number of people in NYC on 911.
He insisted on locating the Emergency facilities in WTC.
He was warned numerous times to get the NYFD, NYPD, and EMS on frequencies that could communicate with each other and he failed, as has NYC to this moment, as has Bloomberg, as has the Congress of the U.S. and it’s moron President.
Should Rudy 911’s Florida firewall work, the Democratic candidate should hammer him on this and tear apart his bullshit platform of “911 and more fear and more 911 and more fear”.
Exactly what the hell does Huckleberry think the Pakistanis are gonna “do” to Mericans?
We need to get rid of those immigrants from the Philippines. Starting with the Maglalang family.
Arlen “Magic Bullet for the Warren Commission” S.P.E.C.T.R.E. was in Pakistan the day Bhutto was assassinated — surely he could help the investigators while he’s there? Such credibility he could lend to their efforts.
Here’s why HRC will win:
She’s backed by corporate power.
Dems will hold their noses and vote for her.
Some Repubs who are practical will vote for her.
Ron Paul, as an indie, will draw votes that are neither D nor R…young votes.
lol
Huckabee’s candidacy is a valid reflection of widespread ignorance among the American people, biases forged in the facade of religion which should have no place in an election, and the systemic lack of education that is the trademark of the American people.
I know, I know….hand waving….Specter came up with the magic sunroof!!!
It’s December 28, 2007, and is this accomplished even today?
Edwards by a landslide.
Why so hard on Huckkklebee? Didn’t the Supremes (s)elect a Preznit in 2000 who couldn’t even name the President of Pakistan when asked?
HRC is far from “winning.”
LOL. Thanks BAdwater.
Exactly what the hell does Huckleberry think the Pakistanis are gonna “do” to Mericans?
Try to assassinate all or our candidates for Prime Minister?
I agree with Teddy — once Huck, Rudy, and Mitt are done self-destructing, McCain slips through. And with the highly debatable exception of Ron Paul, can any of us doubt that McCain is the least bad in a field of horribles? As I said to my wife the other day, at least he’s been tortured. I mean, that’s something. He may even believe in evolution, or at least not condemn it with every fiber of his being. Still immensely bad for the country and universe, of course.
To return to Jane’s subject, Mike Huckabee is living confirmation of the Theory of Incompetent Design.
Good lord, and this guy is supposed to be a serious candidate?
Maybe he’s been talking to Fred too long. The Soviet Union of Pakistani’s are on the march.
Yep, by one O’Conner vote that she now says she regrets. A little too fuckin’ late.
That would clear out most of Hawaii’s cheap labor pool…
hahahahahahaha
hi KK!
I was really hoping it would clear out Fox News’ cheap labor pool…
I have a question.
Would any of you go to India in the next few days.
he is tetched but not batshit!
no, reprisals
I have to respect McCain’s service this nation. However, somehow the Bush Family broke him and turned him to yet another of their toadies. I can never vote for him.
I’d stay away from Kashmir if I was going there.
now I get it… neighbors of mine that I kinda thought was speaking a little too much Spanish are really speaking Pakistani…..yea that’s it.!Thanks Mike, I owe you one, gonna start building my own fence tomorrow.
Bombay was hit last year iirc
I would vote for McCain’s daughter, the blogette. She’s got her fingers on the pulse of America.
My daughter is going on the 1st for 20 days. I worry. I am hoping the trip is canceled.
it is worrisome
Sure Mary–you buyin’?
There are thousands of Americans in Indian cities in various companies. Tom Friedman spent months there and he could go anywhere he wants–his wife is worth several billion.
This AM on Joe Scarbrain, Huck put Afghanistan to the EAST of Pakistan.
He not only needs a map, he needs to learn the compass.
that reigon has always been a hot bed,ive been there twice,so much hatred has been stirred up
if it were megoing,id postpone,thats just me
I am more concerned about the code red status of India right now.
Ghouliani has his own Hugh’s list growing…corrupt and scary..police state.
Romney….icky…plus Cofer Black…scary..police state.
Huckleberry has his own blooper list growing, scary…..
Paul has a following, but he’s extremely….you know…
Kucinich has a following, good candidate, UFO’s held against him..wife has tongue stud and other TMI problems.
Biden…one minor misinterpreted blip used against him, good candidate.
Edwards…good, expensive hair held against him, war vote.
HRC…stuff, war vote, etc…too hawkish.
Dodd…good, but says “here” too much, otherwise good.
Richardson…
Obama…hmmmm…Lieberman.
McCain….Hawkish.
I still say Edwards will win…unless Gore jumps in if there is a tie. I’d love to see a Biden surprise.
Don’t rule out Lou Dobbs, Bloomberg, or Gore.
JMHO
Ot – Oh, fer chrissakes.
William The Bloody headed for the NYTimes:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..78635.html
In defense of Huckabee’s East/West confusion, he’s of an age who grew up when there was an East Pakistan and a West Pakistan (as am I). It’s an easy mistake (not like not knowing Mushareff’s name).
hey Joe,any new interns lately?
That…is a bad, bad sign.
LS, Add Babs Comstock to team Mittens. She appeared on cspan and said she is working for his team this afternoon.
when was there an East West Pak?
Very dangerous situation. Things could spiral out of control. Bush in control is bad enough. Imagine if President Huckabee was in charge now.
Ki will have rundown of 07 special comments tonight.
mary — We have relatives who are living in India at the moment, and they haven’t had any issues. But they are nowhere near Kashmir. I’ll ask them for you what their take is on the situation where they are, if you like and will let you know what I hear back…
oh my god, oh my god, oh my god
WE HAVE A SHOT!!!
oh puLEEZE let a real progressive be our next president (pretty please?)
Wonder if Huck knows how to spell potatoes?
I saw her on CSPAN on Washington Journal…even Mr. LS squawked out loud!
Except that they’re both east of Aghanistan.
“Long way ’round” Huckabee?
Shhhh…..landslide…
No, but he can bake ‘em purty good.
Yes Please! That would be wonderful.
God fucking damn. Whaat, the NYTimes is trying to cement their reputation as a rag? Our Liberal Media! OH, that just pisses me off! And scares me and makes me sad. We’ve come a long way (down), baby! Right wing extremism on the front pages of our…Aaagh, I can’t even write./end rant.
Remember George Harrison’s “Concert For Bangledesh”? Bangledesh is East Pakistan.:)
Afghanistan is west of all the Pakistans.
Ummmm….how the hell did CNN get an entire story by Nick Robertson, edited about Bhutto, Musharraf, AQ, Bush, etc., so quickly??? With all of the players, all of the background, all of the rationale, etc….something stinks.
Mary, I want you to understand I hadn’t (although I should but I don’t always) read all the threads and didn’t realize your concern was your daughter’s travelling to India–which of course would be a different dimention for any of us. So my first comment might have seemed flip and insensitive because I didn’t realize what you meant–and of course it wasn’t intended to be.
While it’s true the BSF have been put on hightened alert along the India Pborder, as a reflex to the unrest in Pakistan, the friendship busses and the Samjhauta express peace train
between India and Pakistan have not been stopped.
As a parent myself, I can’t tell you not to worry. That said, India’s an immense country, one can take sensible precautions, no one’s blaming the Bhutto assassination on the Hindus, and there are useful catchphrases that can mitigate risk, including:
I am Canadian
and (forgive me)
Look! Over there! Tom Friedman!
i’m wishing your daughter the very best and safest of travels, mary.
gotcha thanks….great album by the way
And I apologize if I’ve picked up the mantle of flip and insensitive.
my second favorite country on Earth,im just not very brave
best good wishes
Go for it.
Obama or Edwards would be highly exciting. I’d rather see Richardson than Hillary, and it has nothing at all to do with her gender.
I have made that same mistake more than once so I sorta figured you weren’t being a jerk.
For that matter, I’d much rather see Dodd or Biden than Hillary–there’s a lot to admire about their honesty–but they don’t have the cash or the votes.
Speaking of intelligent design, Huck’s Christmas ad with the illumed cross was there by intelligent design or I’m not a monkey’s uncle.
The unauthorized Korea/China/Vietnam immigrants mostly enter the country on a plane, on a legitimate tourist visa or to see family, and then just stay. Fences have no effect.
model smart
beauty queen smart
hillbilly politician smart
?
Here’s some trivia. Did ya know that plate tectonic shifts were first imagined/realized/explained by a non-scientist, non-expert and it took a lot of years before everybody else caught on?
I wonder how long it took Huckabee to realize that while the earth is flat (ask Tom Friedman) a globe is spherical and yet evolution still appears to be happening.
I’ve gotta say, I’ve been asked some odd questions, but that is a doozy!
Just exactly what kind of accomodations are you offering? Heh.
I keep hearing about how we should be afraid of Islamist’s (or Islamofascists, whatever that’s supposed to mean), but I’m far more terrorized by Wingnut Talibegenicals like Huckleberry. Bush is living proof that they can do far more harm than Osama Bin Forgotten. Hell, Al-Qaeda can only kill us, where as the Fundies can negatively change what we are as a nation and flush over 200 years of heritage, down the drain. Alas, at 49, I’d prefer having those that we are supposed to be afraid of; kill me, than to again endure anything like the Bush administration EVER AGAIN!!
Don’t know how dangerous they are, but Canada is loaded with them. Also don’t know how many that are living in Canada that had relatives living in Pakistan, tortured by us or at our behest, and are now pissed off. I never could understand why if security was the main concern, people weren’t just as worried about the northern border. Unless of course security isn’t what everyone is really worried about at all. Nothing like stiring up racist feelings to get votes.