It’s hard to
understateoverstate the level to which Fourthbranch runs this government without being subject to regular government scrutiny.
I’ve been reading Craig Unger’s "Fall of the House of Bush" in preparation for our January 5th Book Salon, and this struck me:
Bush, according to the memo by the former Pentagon official who had once worked with Cheney, "would allow others to define the key ‘policy’ choices to make without any preliminary framing guidance from him…. "What Vice President Cheney has managed to do…is to become the sole framer of key issues — issues deemed important by Dick Cheney — for President Bush."
Exactly what went on behind the scenes in framing these issues was difficult to say because secrecy was paramount to Cheney. To store the everyday business of the office of vice president he had installed a man-size Mosler safe, used elsewhere in government to guard highly classified secrets…. The names of Cheney’s staffers, in many cases, were kept secret. His office location in the West Wing of the White House notwithstanding, it was even unclear which branch of government Cheney worked in. Even such mundane matters as talking points for reporters were sometimes stamped "Treated As: Top Secret/SCI." According to the Washington Post, it was a designation that Cheney’s office appears to have invented….In effect, Cheney was protecting unclassified work as though its disclosure would cause "exceptionally grave damage to national security."
Cheney’s core concerns, "the iron issues," as his aide Mary Matalin referred to them, were the economy, energy, the White House legislative agenda — and, of course, national security. To address those concerns, Cheney put together a staff that was unparalleled in the history of the vice presidency, in the process expanding its powers accordingly.
When Al Gore was vice president, he usually had four or five staffers who were experts in national security. By contrast, Cheney hired at least fourteen on his own staff alone, and had scores of loyalists scattered throughout other departments. Cheney’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, who had experience both at the Pentagon and the State Department, was given the additional title of "national security advisor to the vice president" to give him more clout at interagency meetings. (emphasis mine)
And on it goes, through Luti, Wolfowitz, and Perle, and, of course, Addington, who Unger describes as a ruthless ideologue whose job it is to enforce Cheney’s interests and those of the neocons — at all costs. All of this was done prior to the attacks on 9/11.
The bit about Libby takes me right back to Marc Grossman’s testimony at Libby’s trial — how we all got the sense that Libby’s spoke with Cheney’s voice in interagency meetings and beyond. That little tap dance that Ted Wells tried to pull off on how Libby was just your average viewer of Meet the Press, dialing in with a viewer complaint and getting to talk with Russert about it. (Ha!) The hubris and willingness to shove anyone around to get Cheney’s way permeated the testimony — and Craig Unger’s book backs that up in spades thus far.
Just when you thought the Nixon Administration was the high water mark for secrecy and paranoia, along comes the Fourthbranch Cult of Cheney.
Related posts:
- The Fitzgerald-Cheney Interview: What Don’t We Know That We Don’t Know?
- Dick Cheney, Scooter Libby, and the “Unremarkable” Meat Grinder
- Liz Cheney Warns Against “Walking Away” from Afghanistan, Apparently Forgetting that Dick Cheney Walked Away from Afghanistan
- The Cheney Interview: Judge Sullivan Rebukes Obama, but Still Shields Crucial Info
- Cheney Refused to Release the Journalists





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Rundown of KO 07 special comments tonight.
hey, CHS!
Christy!
Evening gang. Mr. ReddHedd is on bedtime story duty this evening. And I’m about to pop some popcorn and pick out a movie for some Friday relaxation. How are things in your neck of the woods?
even though it’s a great monica, it gives him too much credit where he needs to be demeaned
accurate though it might be, he has obvioulsy replaced the fourth estate and he might well be the fourth branch of government, to me putting it in the conversation gives him credit he does not deserve
Maybe it’s funnier because I’m reading “Fourthbranch” like Jack used to do “Just Jack!” on Will and Grace. *g*
Hey Christy
Saw a book today and thought of you, that is after I got down swooning.
Lyrics by Sting.
one thought
UGH!
So what you’re saying is that Chee-knee orchestrated an internal coup of the presidency and Dubya hasn’t noticed yet?
I’ll bet there are some CIA torture tapes somewhere in one of those man-size safes….
“used elsewhere in government to guard highly classified secrets.”
Heh! You do seem to have an abnormal fetish for Darth, Christy! ;-)
Shorter KO: You are a sacrificer of our children, Sir!!!!
George never wanted to actually BE the president, he just wanted to a be CALLED the president and walk around AS IF he’s the president
he picked Cheney and handed him the wheel because he doesn’t know how to drive
problem is, Cheney is a bigger moron then bush but Cheney somehow gets people to think he has some kind of administrative competance…he does not
“All of this was done prior to the attacks on 9/11.” Bingo, ding, ding.
Why the hell was he in charge of what Norad did on 9/11? What “experience” did he have to call the shots – literally??? Why did his account of where and what he was doing conflict with Mineta’s testimony to the 9/11 Commission….
It’s a secret.
Cheney’s crew picked W because he was a cheerleader type and was electable…beer at the BBQ, religion, etc., yes it was/is a coup.
It is so obvious.
this is SO very spot on….claps Bravo
Ko takes on new D congress.
we know as a fact the president was “in no danger” even though his unsecured location was public knowledge
the cia did not escort the president from his advertised venue, they kept him exactly where he was supposed to be.
this to me is the biggest clue in the entire episode
CTuttle — Anyone who orchestrates this much disrespect for the rule of law and/or the rules and regs of government deserves as much scorn and sunshine as I can heap on them. Cheney’s earned it and then some…what he and Addington, Libby, Yoo and their acolytes have done to constitutional principles alone will take a lifetime to undo, let alone to all of the human rights advocacy people have done through the years. It’s shameful, and someone has to take it on…I just got tired of not enough people doing it when I started blogging, and I’m going to keep it up until it begins to be corrected…
I got a shiver in my soul when I read that, LS
Crazy Dream — Los Lonely Boys
in the back,dark reaches of our minds,we know the unthinkable
W had to demand to be flown back to DC….but, oh well, Cheney the “expert” was deciding personally whether to shoot down passenger planes or not. It’s all on the record, but you can’t talk about it, because….It’s a friggin’ secret…
Sheesh, I was only joshing, M’dear! I whole-heartedly concur with ya… *g*
Love Los Lonely Boys!!
nope,there is no record,they were not transcribed iiirc
Christy, brava!!
Sorry, my lupus has been acting up this week and the leg pain is making me a little edgy…sucks to get old. *G*
How I yearn to read Dead-eye’s obituary.
[CHS notes: That sort of language can get you a visit from the Secret Service. Careful on edging up toward that line, please…]
Mineta was, and there is a video of him describing what happened in the Situation Room in the WH that day. It’s on Youtube too.
Once again, I’ll concur… 8-)
but the whole story ,of the biggest crime in history deserved a tad more investigation,no?
KO Special comments available in book stores in time for New Years.
not for sissies,and lupus is no fun,sorry!
Isn’t this where someone says “It beats the alternative”?
i love it that Julie Annie brags about what a great Clousseau he was
If the Republicans get in again next year the view here is that Cheney’s influence will continue to be felt. If a vote were held tomorrow on who the nastiest man alive is, Mr. Cheney would get my vote. He is a very, very bad man.
everyday above dirt is a good day
I’m not surprised by any of this.
I’ve always thought of Cheney as Regent to the third-rater that somehow became pres’nant.
I would quibble a bit, I think the Iraqi Fiasco tops it… With the USA/DoJ witchhunt a close third… 8-(
it is simply amazing to me with the family history of the Boooshies since WW1,that they were ever let near elected office
amazing
yes true true
RickinSF — I don’t find any of it surprising, either. Except that someone was dumb enough to issue it in written memoranda form — or perhaps were they trying to get the word out publicly and it wasn’t an error after all. The possibilities for intrigue are just endless on that, aren’t they? *g* It’s all stuff we’ve known in bits and pieces, but like the John Anderson “Follow the Money” book, it’s overwhelmingly infuriating when you read it altogether in one, big lump.
Smarty Pants… 8-P
The names of Cheney’s staffers were kept a secret? Oh wow. Is that because Osama is part of it? Hey, could be.
Love Los Lonely Boys!!
with a guest guitarist of promise – Carlos something-or-other:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4COLJ5tBUr0
OVP’s papers that will be submitted to the National Archives will only pale in comparison to Shrub’s sole tome in his Prez Library, ‘My Pet Goat’…
I’ve always thought of George Bush as the car salesman out in the front lobby wearing the plaid business suit and a brown tie…and…I’ve always thought of Dick Cheney as the asshole manager in the back of the building of the car dealership Georgie goes to find out the best way to screw over the customer.
At least Prez Library will have “My Pet Goat”. Whaddayawanna bet Cheney gives up nothing to any National Archives?
That would be the McLibrary.
I did a post recently on what George Bush’s presidential library will look like once it’s completed: IT WILL BE AN EMPTY BOX WITH A COUPLE OF DEAD FLIES IN THE BOTTOM OF IT, because these assholes have pretty much destroyed everything they’ve done. Of course, “My Pet Goat” will be next to the dead flies just for shits and giggles. LOL
How are things in your neck of the woods?
I’m still trying to figure out how CNN and others are claiming (or at least were earlier today) that Ms. Bhutto was killed by cracking her head on the sunroof.
At the same moment they were pimping the Pakistani Interior Ministry’s claim that it wasn’t the gunshots or bomb that killed her (thus taking the blame off of themselves), CNN was running a piece of film showing a hand raised above the crowd, firing near point-blank at Ms. Bhutto.
also, HuffPo has a picture of the seat on which Ms. Bhutto was standing… (graphic)(4th picture in):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..78599.html
Cheney’s core concerns, “the iron issues,” as his aide Mary Matalin referred to them, were the economy, energy, the White House legislative agenda — and, of course, national security. To address those concerns, Cheney put together a staff that was unparalleled in the history of the vice presidency, in the process expanding its powers accordingly.
forgive me,but who on gods green earth would believe a word that woman uttered
Cheneys biggest concern was Cheney imo
You can take to the bank, that if “the Republicans get in” Cheney’s influence will be paramount. You’re talking about a contest between two individuals who long ago hopped on the Unitary Exec train, Rudy 911 (”forget I helped kill hundreds of firemen”by not getting communication with the choppers, NYFD, NYPD, and EMS) and Mitt-(”I don’t remember the lie I told an hour ago” Romney.
It sure does!
OVP’s papers that will be submitted to the National Archives
I’m guessing two pages, totally redacted…
At the rate Georgie is going, his library will be the first ever floating library, because no one in America wants it in their state! LOL Poor guy. He’ll have to put an empty box on a boat to float it for the rest of eternity!
why are we letting them get away with this?strictly from a historic background…no major crime scene was ever treated like this
Makes you wonder how much of those 2 pages will have black permanent marker lines on them? Oh boy. Two 8 1/2 X 11 pieces of paper with black lines on them. That pretty much sums up their tenure if you ask me!
whenever we are talking about either cheney or rumsfeld I am compelled to post this link
it is unbeleivable to me this treason is not talked about more, this is EXACTLY the same thing they did with Iraq, EXACTLY the same thing they are doing with Iran
fear, it’s what he sells, he has an empty box of fear and since it’s empty he manufactures crap and heaps it on the world
The CIA strongly disagreed, calling Rumsfeld’s position a “complete fiction” and pointing out that the Soviet Union was disintegrating from within, could barely afford to feed their own people, and would collapse within a decade or two if simply left alone.
Ike warned us
Christy, If Shrub claims a pocket veto on the Def. Approp. Bill, and the Congress says nuh-uh, who initiates the third branch’s intervention…?
Not even that…Cheney is the secret that
affectseffects National Security…an empty man-sized safe will be all that’s left…Shhhhh…
Even the signature block…? ;-)
Off topic, but interesting (though, I’m sure most of you know this already):
Listen to John Moore of Getty’s reaction of her death and the pics to go along with it…
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/…..index.html
Bhutto was shot. The Pakistani government, who didn’t do an autopsy prior to her burial, is now saying she died from a bump on the head.
yes indeed he did but there is a differance here;
our armed forces, the military were soundly AGAINST military aggresion in Iraq
it’s these depraved theives, they want to steal the treasure of the middle east and of the american middle class
Soebser Ackerman Leaving TPM Muck to Washington Independent, New Investig todayative Reporting Site
Spenser Ackerman, who wrote many of the key articles at TPM, is leaving today, to help start a new investigative site
http://www.washingtonindependent.com
It should be interesting, and hopefully worthwhile.
And buried already…! WTF? 8-(
Right on!
Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach
Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach
an empty man-sized safe will be all that’s left…
Shhhhh…
Am I the only one creeped out by the “man-sized” safe?
Anybody seen Jeff Gannon/Guckert lately?
The media helped them to the spoils(GE)and kicked over the traces everytime
sometimes i just really cant believe all that has happened in the last 7 years
Who among the presidential candidates most reminds you of Dick — my way or the highway — Cheney?
I know! WTF is right. Well, I suppose, just like 9/11 one has to get rid of the evidence quickly [remember back to the steel of the WTCs being rushed off American soil and onto China’s soil so none of those pesky experts who believe in science could inspect them].
Richard Clarke describes what happened in ho book
Ewwww….why a “man” sized safe???? Oh yeah, the biggest secret of them all….yup…OBL.
a new Pearl Harbor opened the door
PLovering, I would say McCrazy is the closest. He never budges on anything even when his train is heading fast to the edge of the cliff! LOL
Ghouliani, for sheer evilness…
i say Rudy Kazooti,il DUCE
People can’t believe they would do such a thing, but people are worried sick that they are gonna do it again in order to stay in power. I don’t get that.
Sunshine…we need sunshine…
Even the signature block…? ;-)
Absolutely. Can’t have just anybody being made aware of who it was that signed whatever the blacked-out document says/said.
Clear breach of security, that.
Yep! Rudy is the other one!
i say Rudy Kazooti,il DUCE
Keep in mind that Willard’s (Double-Gitmo) recent answers to a questionnaire show that he’s absolutely on board with everything this administration has done.
And quite possibly with things they haven’t done – yet.
I don’t think so, that is why the CIA and the Pentagon is pushing back hard against the E.O. and OVP, in particular… The NIE and the Torture Tapes are some examples…
Who signed PNAC – Pearl Harbor statement?
Who was at the controls during the 9/11 attacks?
Who was CEO of Halliburton?
Who wanted to go into Iraq enough to out a CIA agent?
Who is but isn’t part of the Executive Branch?
Who is running the Pakistan policy, the Iraq policy, the Iran surge to war?
Who?
I don’t think they needed a full autopsy, if the right people examined her depressed skull fracture and were able to determine she died of an epidural (probably) or subdural hematoma. That bomb was unfortunately, close to her an had a terrific impact, and sadly her head hit the metal frame of the car.
That type of damage to vessels from a skull fracture from intense pressure from a bomb often can kill them, especially when they’re in a car/SUV.
I’m talking about the “people” at the mercy of the press. You are right about the agencies pushback, thank Goddess!!
funny dat…no?
Eli is upstairs, I didn’t see that little banner
hes a pussy
rudy is a bully…mostly brown idividuals
docs at TPM call horse manure,or bull manure
Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach
Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach Impeach
huh?
Christy, you might want to dust off the old Energy Task Force files before Unger’s Book Salon.
Everything we needed to know about Bush and Cheney surfaced within days and weeks of taking office; Bush signed an EO within a week of inauguration setting up the Energy Task Force that Cheney led, and in which the spoils of Iraq were divided. Even the complicity of the SCOTUS became evident as a result of Cheney and the Energy Task Force, with Scalia refusing to recuse himself after his duck hunting with DeadEye.
To the best of my knowledge, Cheney still owes documents in relation to the Energy Task Force and has not turned them over — dating back to 2004 decisions by fed Judge Paul Friedman (April ‘04) and SCOTUS (June ‘04). Why this criminal has not been held in contempt is beyond me.
And everything that’s happened since the Energy Task Force has merely been a reformulation of the hide-and-seek tactics used to obscure Cheney’s “other priorities”.
The dilemma – constitutional, bureaucratic, practical and personal – is that Libby and Addington spoke for Cheney and Cheney spoke for a President who would not speak, and who would not object when Cheney spoke.
Effectively, this gave Cheney the power of the President without the need to publicly acknowledged his coup. One wonders if Cheney is a Svengali, or if Bush and Cheney actively or tacitly agreed that that’s how it should work because it was wonderfully convenient for them both. Those early on who objected that commands from Cheney’s shop lacked the obvious and necessary presidential imprimatur quickly found themselves seeking other employment.
Footnote to Peggy Noonan at the WSJ: If you’re seeking a better example of submissive, neutered or effeminate political behavior than John Edwards combing his hair, see above.
Secrecy was and remains essential to Cheney’s coup. Surprisingly, even now, he has it. Hence, apart from late night show humor and a few blogs, few publicly challenge the Decidererer’s self-proclaimed role, because it accurately describes his formal (but not actual) powers, and because doing so would earn a Press Korps “reporter” the Thomas and, now, the CNN treatment.
Even we still call this the “Bush” administration.
I can see it now, rows and rows of papers in folders and binders full of paper and every single page is completely redacted blacked-out.
How Bushie.
Treason……………….
Corporate Style………
Conyers does NOT care about Wexler’s Petition to start Cheney impeachment hearings!
Read the transcript from Democracy Now.
http://willyloman.wordpress.co…..-petition/
He will NOT allow impeachment hearings to take place.
Conyers knows that Pelosi will undercut the efforts of impeachment rather than helping to build a bi-partisan coalition to impeach.
Conyers knows that Pelosi will again be Speaker of the House next year and she will take him off the Judiciary Committee if he goes against her wishes. It’s a “lose-lose” for him and impeachment.
Let’s help him and the rest of the members of the House of Representatives by removing an obstructionist Speaker. It can be done and must be done to start the impeachment process.
http://www.petitiononline.com/…..ition.html
This administration has committed treason, and therefore must be held accountable for it. Period.