How much is the Iraq war and occupation costing us — monetarily, that is? Around $15 billion a month and rising (h/t WaPo via TruthOut):
The latest estimate of the growing costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the worldwide battle against terrorism – nearly $15 billion a month – came last week from one of the Senate’s leading proponents of a continued U.S. military presence in Iraq.
"This cost of this war is approaching $15 billion a month, with the Army spending $4.2 billion of that every month," Sen. Ted Stevens (Alaska), the ranking Republican on the Appropriations defense subcommittee, said in a little-noticed floor speech Dec. 18. His remarks came in support of adding $70 billion to the omnibus fiscal 2008 spending legislation to pay for the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, as well as counterterrorism activities, for the six months from Oct. 1, 2007, through March 31 of next year.
While most of the public focus has been on the political fight over troop levels, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) reported this month that the Bush administration’s request for the 2008 fiscal year of $189.3 billion for Defense Department operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and worldwide counterterrorism activities was 20 percent higher than for fiscal 2007 and 60 percent higher than for fiscal 2006.
[...]
"Stevens is being realistic," said Gordon Adams, who served as the senior national security official at the Office of Management and Budget from 1993 to 1997, in the Clinton administration.
Pointing out that Bush’s request comes out to $15.8 billion per month, Adams said: "Iraq, Afghanistan, and the war on terror are not getting cheaper. . . . This will go down some, as the surge comes home, but not as much as people think."
He added: "More and more of these so-called emergency funds are being used to repair and buy new military hardware," because "the Pentagon is worried that defense budgets will start to go down next year."
Translation: Bush’s war gave them lots of new toys, but those got wrecked pretty fast (war does that, y’know) and they want to get some more while they can before the war starts to wind down. (I’m sounding facetious here, but because of the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the readiness state of our armed forces is a mess, both in terms of equipment and persons, to the point where unit cohesion is already falling apart and mutinies are happening. Of course, maybe things wouldn’t be so bad on the equipment front if there wasn’t so much war profiteering going on.)
One indication of how fast costs are rising is that operations and maintenance costs for all of fiscal 2007 were $72 billion, and the entire fiscal year 2008 request was $81 billion, according to the CRS.
Which is why costs are rising even though overall violence is allegedly down.
Ironically, in the one place where violence has dropped the most — Basra — the violence drop was the result of the occupying British troops leaving, which would reduce the Brits’ costs considerably.
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Now how much was the SCHIP program for kids? Wouldn’t want to skew our priorities.
kids need medicine and food,funny dat
Bushco needs mo moneaie
i never thought the american public would go for this daffy spending overseas again after vietnam…biy deh stooooopit
Well, you have my attention. ! Isn’t 15 billion a month double the figure quoted last year? I seem to recall way back 8 months ago the term “nearly two billion a week”being thrown around congress on MSM a lot. and isn’t ted stevens and the entire alaska state house under investigation at the moment for crimes revealed in FBI tapes involving kickbacks, etc.
what are the robberies in the hood called
SMASH and GRAB? yea Bushco bunch of hoods
Um, but, ah…the surge is working! It’s going so well that, by the end of next year, we’ll almost be back where we were in 2006! That’s progress!
Yep: $2 billion a week has been bruited about for quite some time…
We need to march on the capitol and demand an end to this. Congress, both sides, is signing our names to loans we never agreed to that generations to come will be mortgaged to pay. Twenty million people on the Mall. high time.
15 billion? A bargain at twice the price!
Gen. Petraeus and George W. Bush have embarked on a bold Terrorist Welfare Program(TWP) giving a generous $300.00 a month stipend to the same Sunni extremists, dead-enders, Saddamites and rejectionists that we were told for four years are the ‘worst of the worst’.
We would have saved a lot of money if we had decided that negotiations with ‘terrorists’ was the price we have to pay in this awful world and bought out Saddam for a cool few billion.
-G
AND the most pertinent question??….. WHY the doubling of costs. i mean WHY doubled?? can’t be the inflation we aren’t suffering from..
http://nationalpriorities.org/cms/costofwar
Maybe we could demand reperations from NewsCorp, General Electric, and TimeWarner.
well, technically, the majority of that figure is to be paid by our kids and grandkids
those assets are at the expense of our infrastructure repair, future programs and revenue to be gathered some time after we are gone
Ah but if we’d negotiated with Saddam and bought him off (as was rumored that he made the offer) then Little Boots wouldn’t have gotten to show how manly a man he is by wearing his codpiece to the carrier.
hey these things cost money
arms dealers own some of the largest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShAfcoGGbI
The problem with SCHIP is that there’s nothing in it for the Bush family. If Congress would add some money for things like buying copies of Neil Bush’s software, the bill will pass. Politics, after all, is the art of compromise. With a Bush in the WH, that compromise always requires Bush family payoffs.
Whatever happened to making them put Iraq in the Pentagon budget? None of this stuff is unpredictable, and we’re long past the point when WWII and Vietnam were under regular budgeting, not “emergency” appropriations. Letting Shrub keep doing this is just handing him another club to beat Congress with.
Must…cut…taxes
Stop..welfare…abuse
Bush has announced that he will veto the defense authorization bill. I say, “Fine.” If you don’t want the money, then you won’t get any money at all.
Sadly, Pelosi and Reid will end up capitulating to their truculent, blackmailing child. Those two would make AWFUL parents!
and Exxon would not have record profits from their paid puppet
We are being robbed….oh, here…take my wallet, just don’t hurt me.
For a refresher…Why We Fight…click on my name.
Then start here with part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jc6Y8wyhQ
I’ve watched it, and it is excellent.
Well, there’s only one logical interpretation: it’s good for Republicans!
Banned excerpts from Iraq 4 Sale – the pukes banned Congress from seeing it (4 min.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cJlJudDtVE
So if spending on Afghanistan & Iraq keep going up 20% per year, the wars will cost $1,000,000,000,000 per year in a decade. (That’s meant to be $1 trillion, if I got my zeros right.)
Chances are it’ll go up faster because of the required equipment replacements.
You know what’s another billion dollars a week? Haliburton and KBR and Blackwater need the business. It is the new breed of welfare.
and how do the repugs get away with not including military spending in the “discretionary” part of the budget? that really pisses me off.
Only Edwards, Kucinich, and gulp, Paul, are confronting this stuff.
perhaps a dysfunctional people deserves a dysfunctional People’s House.
I have a hunch that if we cut off Pentagon funding for a whole year they’d figure out how to get by. It would be a good exercise for them to finally live with OUR means. The reason they have all these missing billions is because they know they can always get more from the the Congressional ATM.
Now’s the time to chop them — they’ve lost two wars, they couldn’t protect us from 19 hijackers with $24 of hardware supplies, and not a single American is safer today than we were in 2001.
When the Republicans warn of the perils of socialized health care, maybe we should agree with them and use the Pentagon as an example of the worst sort of socialistic abuse.
As we speak, the National Guard are depleted, and literally hundreds of the fighter jets that protect the country are grounded. They are borrowing National Guard from other states all over the country, and they are borrowing Canada’s airforce to protect us. That is a bad scenario.
What sucks is that we get nothing for the money. 500 Million a day, for nothing. We’re not rebuilding there anymore. We have no real reason for being there. The best case scenario is that it’s safe enough for us to leave.
We get nothing except higher oil prices and a world that hates us more than they did before we spent all that money.
And to think what that could have bought.
excellent idea!!! the we can really test whether private charity is the correct respond to need!
And for all that money, it still looks like our army is falling apart and we’re only just able to meet payroll. WTF?
oh then they can play
MINES BIGGER THAN YOURS…lol
http://www.bostonboating.com/i…..tinum1.jpg
they get PLENTY with your money
At this point I don’t see how the Chimpy and Co. Iraq war juggernaut can be stopped before January 2009, and perhaps not even then, unless Kucinich or Dodd gets in, a very unlikely prospect indeed.
Pelosi promised to put Bush’s occupation on-budget: no more supplementals. She also promised to end his damnable occupation. She promised investigations — if we gave her committee chairmen subpoena power. She’s broken every promise she’s made.
But there’s an alternative: Cindy Sheehan
In my sessions on “framing” and talking to others about issues I use the “Cost of the Iraq War” website….. the cost of the war to Phoenix alone:
Cost of the War
Of course when talking to Repugs, the only item they want is the Public Safety Officers (we don’t have any ports) so all the rest is Liberal squandering of their tax dollars.
Oops. I forgot about Edwards, whom I’m actually supporting in the primaries. I wonder if Freud would have something to say about that…
katymine, that’s great framing.
great comparisons, thanks
Thank God we haven’t had any major natural disasters to contend with, like a hurricane in New Orleans or wildfires in San Diego.
Sorry but i must disagree in the strongest possible terms. No more dough. that’s it. What would it take to organize a national call in to every single senator and congressperson by ANYONE who is opposed to more $$ wated on this crap? It’s a simple thing really. NO more money. Yer flagged, guy, you drunken sot.
NO MORE , (what did teddy kennedy call it on the senate floor recently, “gigantic”?) BLANK CHECKS. In fact, no more checks at all.
15 billion now, double a year ago
so half a billion a day now, forecast a billion dollars a day next year?
war on greed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW7eyNX55-E
Its all on the website…. but you have to understand your audience. With Democrats you can provide the whole list but if you are trying to get the typical libertarian Repug type here in AZ, then you talk about Prisons, Public Safety, Roads and freeways.
Well since Bush plans to veto the Defense Bill….. we can just do it… shut down ALL the money.
Unfortunately, with Little Boots in charge, he is perfectly capable of literally letting the troops run out of food, ammo, pay whatever just to prove his point, no matter what.
which I think the folks like Pelosi et al recognize which is why they keep giving him the money
where is PELOSI?????? in her garden(magic)
shut it down,boycott and pickett the liberal media stations/snark
In a word: Yep.
my mom lives at a marina …i have never seen the yachts being used,anytime i visit her,not a soul on them
We could have arranged to have a scale model of Baghdad built so that Little Boots/Smaller Codpiece could have dressed up in cowboy hat and flightsuit and been allowed to run amok, destroying the set like the Godzilla actors.
That wouldn’t have cost much at all.
-G
but everyone at one time or other will get sick!!!
you forgettin the elephant in the room
EXXON
One of Rudy’s morons was caught on tape saying that Rudy is the man to send the “Muslims back to their caves”.
I take it Rudy won’t be meeting with Keith Ellison any time soon.
-G
the media loves dem some Julie annie
At a rate of $15 billion a month how long would it take to buy every American a hybrid car? How much gas would America save? If every American who wanted a hybrid had one how much would the price of gas drop from lack of demand?
How would Iran pay for Nuclear Technology without high oil prices
Oh and on a side note can Pakistan maintain its army at its current size and its Nuclear Weapons without our Aid/Tribute/Help?
I think that if we work peacefully to lower demand for oil we will have better results than our current policy.
Speaking of Ghouliani….Check out his connections to that super duper highway…:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/a…..2064.shtml
i just can’t buy that argument. Why? because it’s intimidation and that’s all. And once we cower beneath that we are done. you cut the money, then see what happens. REsult is NOT a foregone conclusion. wrong assumption. American people will have something to say about it by then that surprises everyone.
You are absolutely correct that it is an intimidation tactic. But Little Boots has given ample evidence that he is a bully and it is a bully’s tactic and he has shown himself enough of a psychopath that it is not at all inconceivable. And how would the American people stop it at this point? He’s playing out the string and that would just be another tactic that the 28%ers would swallow.
Greetings all, from my borrowed internet access. You have no idea how much I’ve missed you all. Lightning strike at my place cooked my TV, cable box and modem, and computer. Went right through the surge suppressor…any way, great post, PW. Thank you for staying on top of this and bringing it to light. Please say hi to all for me, and may 2008 PLEASE be an improvement on ‘07!
I’m tellin you this whole deal is a setup just like with Kennedy. If a Democrat gets elected, especially Hillary, they will jump ugly at the first opportunity to prove they are up to “protecting the punk ass American people”.
Bush gives Pakistan billions for their help in the war on terror? But Pakistan won’t let Bush go after Bin Laudin. These two statements are in direct contradiction to each other and cannot both be true.
But since Bush is the giver and he is getting nothing in return lets assume that he is lying. If so then the money we give Pakistan really is a gift given with no expectation of return, or its tribute.
Hi, everyone! Sorry I’m late — got stuck in a meeting. What’s shakin’?
Yep again. We’ve been dealing with this psychpath for a while now. A number of us discussed this at FDL with Kirk Murphy the shrink sometime ago… You might even remember that.
You do not kowtow to bullies, you outwit them. simple. it’s not like the dems don’t have a mike.
We need to march on the capitol and demand an end to this. Congress, both sides, is signing our names to loans we never agreed to that generations to come will be mortgaged to pay. Twenty million people on the Mall. high time.
See you on March 15.
http://www.pephost.org/site/Ne…..38;id=8749
psychopath…
Now you just stop that there logic, TCU. Americans can’t be bothered with all that ’sciencey’ mumbo jumbo and environmental ethics BS. We have better things to do with ourselves like minin’ coal and drillin’ wells an’ important shit like that. :)
The point is that Chimpy is not only a bully but also a psychopath. That’s the big difference. A psychopath who unfortunately is also the prez of the United States and the civilian Commander-in-Chief of the US Armed Forces.
Unfortunately, while the Dems might have one or two mikes, the Republicans have all the networks and Clear Channel and FOX. And a few newspapers.
They began buying up, buying off and/or scaring off the corporate media back in the 1970s, starting with AM radio; when they finally got the Fairness Doctrine repealed in 1987, they were more than ready to take advantage of its demise, and soon right-wing blowhards like Limbaugh filled the AM dial from sea to shining sea.
Furthermore, don’t you think it’s somewhat enabling of dems to cower beneath the potential threat of the public seeing just how psychopathic , selfish and nasty this guy can be.?? I”m not afraid of that, it would be a good thing for the country to see who they voted for. Stop sheltering people from the consequences of their failure to be informed citizens. gotta be brave or you get nuttin back, or worse more of the same.
Is Bush a Mark or a Punk is the question?
Is Bush a Punk paying Pakistan Tribute, meaning that he keeps paying them billions but he knows that Musharraf will never go after or let us go after Ossama?
Or is Bush a Mark? Does Musharraf bat his eyes at Bush and keep saying soon dear maybe next week I just need a few billion for Crac, er aid for poor people to win popular support.
2007 was a nightmare of criminal incompetence and High Treason:
a) Congress took out most of the tax help from the Energy Bill
for Wind and Water turbines, Solar, the http://www.iter.org/ fusion
reactor project, electric and hidrogen cars and the excuse that S.
McConnell gave to Gwen Ifill of http://www.npr.org/ was: “…..in
the Southeast States we dont have wind, so our rates would have gone
way up…”, take that for America’s Energy Independence and
Washington
DC !!! and they took out the Oil Lobby Tax refund of 13 billion,
another absurd giveaway that should have gone to finance our Energy
Options: Solar,Turbines,Hydrogen,Ethanol without cutting one single
tree ,Geothermal, Nano tech., electric and new batteries, more coal
to
hydrogen-electricity-diesel capturing 100% of the carbon dioxide,
new
composites, new insulation materials,more smart research and
testing ! ,they cut our future !
b) Colorado and Ohio are rejecting the fake fraudulent voting
machines , touch and gone, without paper trail, and what do DC do?
they de-construct the FEC, so no watchdog ! ….they are going to
steal the elections again !
c) the Senate drops a measure for less sugar ,less junk and less fat
in school foods…hey ! if the kids dont get sick, the Pharma can’t
support its one trillion dollar Market Cap, someone’s got to get
sick ! ….may as well be the kids,they dont have lobby’s, too bad !
d) Sam Zell buys the Tribune with 4 national Newspapers and 23 TV
stations with a down payment of 315 million dollars and gets to buy
the company at a discount,and he wont pay any taxes!, his partner
Murdoch buys the WSJ,turns it into a gossip finance doodle and
they
all get the FCC to drop their ——–, so that they all can control
papers,radios and tv’s in the same markets and fix the elections
and
the scandals, what a peach !
e) Congress is about to stop investigating Tax Fraud in the US
Virgin Islands by Hedge Fund managers and other smart patriots
invested in Military and Security Contractors in Iraq , and the
lonely voice in the IRS , Ms .Petronchak (NYT,12.21.07) may not be
able to collect up to 373 million dollars in tax breaks, most likely
she will get fired or send to Alaska to audit eskimo pets and polar
bear food deductions….
f) Mayor Bloomberg after assuring all that he is not involved in his
firms dealings, is reported by the NYT as being on a daily schedule
of
voice calls, e-mails and contacts with his company staff, he even has
a Bloomberg Terminal in his City Hall desk and access to the Company
e-mail database, and all the while the City of New York makes Bond
deals with Merril Linch every month, and Merril owns 20 % of his
company, so if you or i do that, we get fired and indicted,but he is
special, after all,he is going to buy his VP with any
candidate,Democrat or Republican,and then,once inside the White House
as V-P, the President will have an accident or scandal and Bloomberg
and his Army of Israel team will take over the Oval Office,its a
done
deal ! and where are the christian men to save America ? they are
very busy watching the players and eating hot dogs ……..
g) On Star system goes out in 2 months,G.M. wont support this analog
radio system, when they sold the Hughes-DirectTV satellite system to
News Corp. from Australia at the time, they lost a key asset,and now
they dont have analog hardware, this sale was the beginning of the
fall, shame !
h) When the Senate voted for A.G. ,the nominee told them 3 times
that just by saying National Security, he,Mukasey as well as
others,could go out and around the USA Constitution,and last week
Mukasey told the Congress to back off on the CIA tapes
Investigation, a political appointee telling the US Congress what to
do!
http://www.senate.gov/legislat…..all_vote_c
fm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00407
this vote was the worst High Treason Vote ever in the History of the
United States of America! , and we still dont know who Mukasey’s
clients and customers are while advising Giuliani and in between Law
Firms and Judgeships,as well as Podhoretz and Giuliani, the 3 team
members,we dont know who they have worked for ….but we do know
that
Mukasey and Wainstein want to keep the CIA Investigation under their
own control ,and with Zelikow of the 9/11 Commission, the 3 want to
be the only ones to get the facts and control the spin, so its time
to
put an honest Independent Counsel in charge,too many lies ! and
answer: what is what Mukasey,Wainstein and Zelikow don’t want
anyone
to know ?
i) http://www.c-span.org/ ,that great call-in radio show,Washington
Journal , 7-10 a.m. EST,is now totally a neocon controlled spin
machine, every day the key guests are from the American Enterprise
Institute and similar, and anyone that mentions AIPAC or the Israeli
Lobby influence gets cut-off, what a criminal shame !
the death of Bhutto benefits mostly Musharraf and Saudi
Arabia,Bhutto’s plan
to investigate and control the madrassas were a direct hit against
the sunnies-wahabis
from Saudi Arabia,the AlQeda network,the core of the extreme muslim
network, so the people
who gets most of our oil money,are the ones that hated Bhutto’s the
most, she had to go to keep Musharraf and the Oil and Nuclear Lobby
in power, and we must remember that “Nuclear ” Kahn had to be kept
secure, he got all his hardware from the Israeli network of
Wisser,Meyer,Karni and our own dealers, Khan outside of the Musharraf
control is a grave danger to Israel and AIPAC-Mossad, he must be
kept under guard, and since Washington DC only does what Israel wants
first, they will blame the Tooth Fairy,Santa Claus and the Easter
Bunny before letting the FBI , the Interpol and U.N. inside Pakistan
to talk to Kahn and do a full examen of the killing of Bhutto,
anything but the truth….
to think that in America today most all the TV Networks,Radio and
Newspapers are controlled by neocon Mossad-AIPAC members, most all
the
news get fixed and edited to fit their agenda , most Justice Dpt. new
apointees are neocons and most news from Iraq go trough neocons like
Edelman,Whitman and other members of the Israeli Army in the USA,
what
a shame ! and when i ask young christian men , they say : i’am a
patriot,i only read the sport pages…that’s the result of 12 years
of junk foods, sugar sodas, chemical pizzas and stupid neocon
manipulated Television, 30% of the voters in America are
mentally ………we must reverse this crime !
I urge Edwards, Paul, Obama, Clinton, Huckabee,Richardson,Biden,all
to tell the American People that as long as we are addicted to Middle
East Oil ,we will send all our billions to Saudi Arabia and
Israel,they want us to be addicted to that oil and with our troops
there, as soon as we break free, the Middle East is not so important
anymore, we must fix our great country, not spend our taxes in that
part of the World, we should go there to sell computers, mobile
phones,air condition units, desalination plants,Jeeps,solar panels
and
good homes, not war spending and financing more homes of israeli
settlers in occupied arab farms and cities that is the root of the
violence and the hate against America, time to change….. our so-
called allies are using american made weapons, F-16 planes,Humwees,
cluster bombs, uniforms, radios, attack helicopters and missiles ,
all
clearly marked as “ugly american” made to kill arabs that dont want
to
give up their land,a policy that only benefits the
Contractors ,Equity
Partners and Hedge Funds invested in the War contracts, its time to
stop the madness,time to Trade,do Commerce and Friendship with all
Nations,like the great USA Constitution says, time for Peace,Jobs
and Growth……the candidates must be clear about this, and so
far ,
Edwards and Paul are the only ones with the will to say so…
and we must remember H.R.1955 by R.Harman , now pushed in January
2008 into the Senate floor by S.Lieberman and S. Collins, and that
will establish special Committees to investigate USA citizens for
terroristic-growth oriented opinions, so the neocons in Congress are
going to indict any USA citizen that does not like neocon policies
and says so…
I’d say more of a mark – especially since lots of the “aid” provided to support the Waronterra is rumored to have been spent to equip the Pakistan army for anti-India operations.
disagreee. still think there is hay to be made by some scrupulous reporters at MSM, not many, but some. anyway, is NO excuse for not trying. Was for example, refreshing to hear Nancy P (whom i detest for the most part) go after th offshore corporations and their tax evasion the other day in her pressconference. Of course she gave it one shot and we may not hear about it again. no followup. she did speak out though. something,
you know what?? truth is i’m this close to leaving before someone tells me i can’t.
like this does
and we must remember H.R.1955 by R.Harman , now pushed in January
2008 into the Senate floor by S.Lieberman and S. Collins, and that
will establish special Committees to investigate USA citizens for
terroristic-growth oriented opinions, so the neocons in Congress are
going to indict any USA citizen that does not like neocon policies
and says so…
If he is a Mark then we just need someone he likes and trusts like Musharraf or Condi to tell him all the things that he wants to hear and get him to sign some papers without looking at them…as has apparently been going on this whole time?
Wait a minute! Just how gullible is this guy? He has been taken for years!
Are we really that sure that he hasn’t been drinking again Heavy this whole time?
We could easily use these laws on warproffiters like Haliburtron for actually harming the war effort by wasting money. If we had any Democrats with a spine that is but no Holy Joe would prefer to make people paranoid about opposing the war on terror.
He really does not think that America is full of Al Quieda sleeper cells, he just wants America to be afraid of disagreeing with his war.
but… but… but… impeachment is off the table! Whew! Saved again by back room politics. Thanks Nancy. Don’t know what we would have done if you hadn’t stepped in and saved us.
Remember Pete Stark, who was disciplined by Bush Dog Pelosi. Stark said Kommander Guy sends troops to “Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President’s amusement.” But this is true. HuffPo has still more examples of inapprpriate amusement when
discussing Iraq and War.
Er…
Up. Ya got that right. And all those vile scum who in the name of ‘conservatism’ would tell you we can’t afford single-payer healthcare, new roads and bridges and schools and Universities and kickstart programs for solar roofing, electric cars and remediation of the toxins we dump into our environment….
They are liars. They are enemies of the nation.
Stevens should go to the slammer for the rest of his foul existence.
Lift,
Do you have a mind link to my brain…. I thought I was looking in the mirror as I read your post. The part on C-span is true. Pull up the December 5th W/J amd listen to the tone of the callers and the obvious nervousness of the host… Callers that day wanted Bush’s head on a platter. It was the day after the NIE report on Iran. The anger crossed the political spectrum. I agree with much you say, not all, however your basic premise is correct and on point. Check out my take on the issue at the link below. I see it as the modern day “East India Tea Co” or Halibuton or Exxon mobile. energy it is all the same. Keep us dependant on the oil dude……………………………
Natural Selection Corporate T(r)eason and “Executive Oil”
http://boards.lp.findlaw.com/c…..SS0gdFGhDg^7@.ef272cd/928
S 1959 IS THE WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did anyone see Dodd w/Blitzer today?
So you dutiful Liberals will vote for Hillary, who will commit more slaughter and squander more money in order to appear ‘tough’.
a vote for someone is a vote for their policies.
who could misunderstand the inperialistic bray throughout Clinton’s statement
from Foreign Affairs?
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/…..ntury.html
Maybe it means all their attempts to attack Iran and to stir up trouble have failed, so they’re now disarming domestic America and begging for somebody to attack us. After all, it takes two to have a war, even if we have to arm the “enemy”.
Of course, this Pakistan thing might be their latest “product rollout”. Maybe they think they can embroil us in a war over there (betting on Obama?) for ever.
“Endless war for endless profits!” should be the Republican party campaign slogan.
Do you roll out a new product in late December?
This reminds me of the line from Alice’s Restaurant where Arlo is in jail and the other guys ask him what he got. He said he didn’t get anything, he had to pay to have the dump cleaned up and for court costs.
You’re right, we don’t get anything for the money. We just have to pay it and pay it and pay it. Somebody else (I wonder who) gets the money.