I know I can’t be the only one nervous about Joe Lieberman pimping for John McCain:
As President, John McCain will bring America together again. He will inspire a new American unity and a new American patriotism. He will push all of us to work together to solve our biggest problems, and defeat our most dangerous enemies.
But to nobody’s surprise save for the unduly credulous, Lieberman helps McCain not with Independents, but Republicans:
According to a Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll released last week, Lieberman’s endorsement makes only 15% of independents more likely to vote for McCain, yet it persuades 25% of Republicans.
Which makes perfect sense, because when Republicans hear the word "bipartisan" they know it’s code for "give the GOP everything it wants." If someone suggested it mean giving in to the Democrats on anything, they’d all be screaching like a pack of howler monkeys.
But here’s the danger:
It’s not Lieberman the maverick or moderate who helps McCain the most; it’s Lieberman the moralist.
The Connecticut senator – who, besides his hawkish stance on foreign policy, continues to caucus with Democrats – has for several years now been a regular fixture on conservative talk radio. In 1998, he became a hero to the right wing for openly denouncing Bill Clinton’s misconduct. Just as Lieberman’s obvious comfort talking about religious faith irritates many on the left, it endears him to evangelical Christians, as does his campaign against violence and sex in movies and video games.
Why is this distinction – Lieberman’s appeal to conservatives more than independents – so important now? Because McCain has a famously rocky relationship with the Christian right. If he doesn’t start smoothing it out now, he cannot win the nomination. If, on the other hand, he does start to repair the rift, he can string together a broad Republican coalition and continue his improbable comeback. ….
I can see it now. Lieberman shores up McCain with the evangelicals, and the two of them waltz around singing Kumba-fucking-ya and Joe talks about how nobody wants to end the war more than he does and it all makes perfect sense to people using about 2% of their brains. Then old fart McCain kicks, and we’re looking at…President Lieberman.
Please, by all that is holy, kick him out of the caucus and strip him of his seniority now. The only two politicians he’s endorsing so far are Republicans. And really, the satisfaction of being able to say "we told you so" has long since waned.
Don’t make us be right again.
(h/t tparty)
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Ned!
Zed2
you have to be kidding! Loserman lost it for Gore. He’ll lose it for McCain, if McCain is dumb enough to pick him, which he won’t be.
What does the Dem leadership have to say about why they have not done this yet?
oy
If the snake-handlers won’t vote for a Mormon, I don’t see them voting for a Jew.
Good gawd. The hits just keep on coming. First Bhutto and now Lieberman.
Jane, I figured John McCrazy would pick either Joe Lieberman or Susan Collins to be his VP. McCrazy likes living in a safe little box where he will be protected by those around him. Hey wait, where have I heard that scenario before? Oh that’s right! George & Dick. Nevermind.
GeorgeSimian – Lieberman lost it for Gore because he is a Republican mole. Of course, he may lose it for McCain because he is a weasel.
heh, best shortest answer ever.
I agree with PeteCo. They’ll vote for a black and a woman before they vote for a Jew.
if mccain wins the repug nom – i bet he asks liarman to be his veep…and he will accept – thus continuing his treachery re the dems
He lost it because he’s a weasel and a mole
Joe is the head of the Shitheels for McCain Caucus.
Just go Holy Joe.
-G
wrong!!
I don’t see where there is any hint that Lieberman is even being considered for VP. Where do you see that?
Doesn’t Lieberman meet with both Senate Dems and Thugs when planning strategy for pending legislation/votes?
Nah – McCain needs somebody else for Veep to counter-balance his pro-war stance.
Put the two of them together and it’s “The War Ticket”. I think the polling’s in on that one.
They’ll vote for him, if it’s presented right they will.
exactly!
If he consents to run as the Republican running mate will THAT be sufficient cause for him to be booted out of the caucus and stripped of his seniority? Or does he really have pictures of Harry Reid and a stripper squirreled away somewhere?
I cannot bring myself to think about that self absorbed creepy little pusbag today…not today
My lady knows I am jacked-up about Bhutto. And now I am thinking how Joe Lieberman might be smiling about Bhutto’s death. lahoma is now trying to calm me down.
who’s ned?
KO firepup alert – Countdown live at top of the hour.
Nooo! Holy Joe must be stopped!
He certainly has a cozy relationship with Susan Collins, as “Co-Chair’s” of the Homeland Security committee…
We’ll be there. ;0)
Ned Lamont!
Seems to me McCain has to pick someone much younger – and certainly more attractive. Two old men won’t have much appeal.
Republicans have had fifteen years of anti-Democrat propaganda pumped into them. They think Democrats are traitors, tax-hikers and cowards. There’s no way a Republican will put one on his ticket. Especially one from Connecticut.
I guess the campaign could be called The Surge Sister Roadshow.
Why in the damn hell does Lieberman still get to caucus with my party? I want Lieberman gone. I want Pelosi gone. I want Reid gone.
That will be a hell of a Campaign Bus.
It’ll have “Straight Talk Express” stenciled on one side, and “Everything I say is Bullshit” on the other.
DEMS get a fucking grip and kick this bastard out – he is a repug – dont y’all see that?
Actually, now that I think about it, this is just a Lieberman smear. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for smearing Lieberman, but let’s call this for what it is. It’s great because it makes Lieberman seem so Republican that a Republican might even put him on the ticket as VP.
Ned Lamont? That conjures visions of HRC. I’m still pissed about that. And puleeze don’t anyone try and tell me that Hillary supported Mr. Lamont.
Actually, the most harrowing prospect for me is the possibility of having to listen to the sound of that little schmuck’s whining, whinging voice. I can’t decide whose voice irritates me more — RGJ or W.
What I want to know is what the fuck he is about to do to that little dog in the red outfit.
He’ll be “a uniter not a divider,” just like our dear President Bush! Yay!
Um, right…
I cannot say what I’d like to see done with Mr. Lieberman. If I did i might land up in jail.
You can’t smear a shitstain George.
Huck/Joe. Can you imagine?
St John and St Joe? The Asshat and Weasel ticket? Oh, my! Two legends in their own minds.
And speaking of whining, whinging voices, can you imagine both he and Collins having dinner?? A whining whinging fest! We in maine are most unfortunate in that both our senators are avid whiners as is our democratic rep! God help us!
Oh, please, don’t go there… He’s been hanging out with Republicans and they’re capable of anything… Poor little dog.
I’ve said for months that it would be McCain/Lieberman on the “Unity08″ ticket.
And I still don’t quite think McCain can get the R nomination, even with the backing of all the Inside The Beltway R cognescenti.
Somewhere out there, punaise’s contempt-o-meter is bleeping. /s
Dodd for president. Lamont takes Sen. Dodd’s place. I’m dreaming again.
The Waldorf and Statler image comes to mind.
-G
They’ll be criss-crossing the country on the Whine and Ruses Express.
I don’t think it’s bleeping, I think it’s emitting a sound reminiscent of a fire alarm!
I was ranting a few ago to lahoma about Lieberman. She said, “gee kiddo, does that mean you don’t like Joe?” She kills me.
yeah thats the man – dodd for pres!!
Oh, huzzah! That’s worthy of Punaise! And all of their rallies will be called Days of Whine and Ruses… Great!
priceless the 2 saints hahahahaha
Republican Governor Jodi Rell would probably appoint herself.
-G
There isn’t enough TUMS to deal with this scenario….
The funny thing is that McCain might not win his home state. The Repugs are pissed at him for his immigration stance AND then not being in the Senate doing his job.
How do you make this a “Lieberman smear?”
Short Ride has endorsed McCain. He has most always been the favorite of a lot of the CT Rs (he was endorsed by Bill Buckley when he first was elected to Senate because Buckley and the Conservatives HATED Lowell Weicker). He was the de facto R candidate for Senate in his last race after losing the D primary. There is no smear here. Lieberman is R in all but name and always has been.
If/when Dodd (or Lieberman) left the seat, there’s an R governor appointing the replacement so it would be someone like Nancy Johnson or Chris Shays.
We might laugh at McCain and jeer Joe. But I have to say that I think a McCain/Lieberman ticket should be taken seriously.
dakine, you’re right. The real smear would probably be to call him a Democrat…
Scary scenario, there. My fear is that the Bush/Cheney deal to back Maliki in return for a silly counterproductive and immoral deal to implicitly turn Iraq into a US military oil colony will mean that things will start sliding back downhill fast in Iraq by the middle of 2008. one result of increased violence in Iraq will be greatly reduced appeal of the McCain/Liberman all war all the time platform.
McCain has a scary mentality that wears a nice sensible suit. I remember before the Iraq invasion how hawkish he was, and I saw reminders of that on a few blogs today. I remember watching McCain on the TV when things first started going seriously downhill in Iraq after the invasion. He explained very cogently the flaws in the Bush/Cheney approach, and how an all-military strategy in Iraq would probably not work. Then, he went right on without a blink of an eye to advocate the Bush/Cheney all military strategy. His recommendation for a war first approach seemed completely disconnected from his analysis just moments before. The CW boys interviewing him did not blink an eye either. I decided then and there that McCain was nuts when it came to foreign policy. I haven’t changed my mind since then. McCain and Lieberman are gruesome nasty pair.
Gawd help us. ;0)
By the way. Keith O gives a great shout out to Kos and Crooks and Liars and the rest of us in the blogoshpere in his new book.
-G
ahhh KO’s BACK!!!
keif up
ok …….chimps zombified
And the pix at the top of Lieberman makes me angry too.
KO is the MAN!! he’ll have my candidate for pres on….
2 black glazed eyes
LIEberman is the trailing toliet paper stuck on a shoe, the flaming dog poo in a bag, the spinach in the smile, the lipstick on the tooth, the skirt tucked into pantyhose, and the proverbial cement shoes of McCain’s failed presidential run.
We are so sad about Ms. Bhutto. Musharraf did it.
Oh yes and I’m sure the dog in the picture with Wieberman (not a misspelling) is from Suzie-Q! She promised she’d get him one if he won in the last election (or was it when he got booted out of the CT Dem Party? Can’t remember now!).
KO gives me hope. ;-)
George Bush getting up there and condemning “terrorists” in the wake of the Bhutto murder. George W. Bush is the biggest terrorist in the world.
bushie crying terror terror……..keif …pull her
no argument here
why does keif have a bushie on shame shame
Al Quaeda didn’t do Bhutto. Bush and Musharraf did. I don’t give a damn about what Bush says about it.
DU talking about FDL just though you’d like to know http://www.democraticundergrou…..15;3895636
EPUd downstairs:
Watching KO right now. Some former Bush regime NSC member–and apparently current right-wing shill–just keeps saying “al Qaeda” over and over and over, no matter what question KO asks. Gee, I wonder why that might be?
Here’s what Bush looked like at his presser today when he talked about Bhutto:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..-515h.html
He does not look like a sane man at all!
bad linky for me
We’re looking at Olbermann. Olbermann brings up the point that Bhutto wrote that if anything should happen to her, then Musharraf did it. Bush likes Musharraf.
Darn it. The link isn’t working, bigBob.
Kiddo, al-Qaida also likes Bush. Coincidence? LOL
musharraf follows orders….
Is it me, or does anyone else think that Joe bears a striking resemblance to Howdy Doody and McCain as Clara Bell?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1EGnAcprE8
I thought the former NSC official Keith interviewed sounded somewhat critical of the Bush administration’s policy toward Pakistan. Was she a Bushie or a Clintonite?
is Hillary Mann Leverett married to Flynt? (wiki isn’t sorking for me)…
bhutto is dead and the moron is still clearing brush….where is god?
Musharraf didn’t do it. Why would he? He already has Excedrin headache #9. Why would he want Excederin headache # 455? While he might not be shedding any tears, I can’t believe he’d want to cause himself any more problems. Then again, he might just be that crazy.
(wiki isn’t sorking for me)
or working, either…
When has Bush ever looked sane ??
Jane….
There is zero chance HolyJoe will ever be VP… McCain would have to WIN for that to happen, and there is zero chance of that happening..
I think someone at The Great Orange Satan called him Droopy Joe.
bushie she was extolling his virtues for calling for elections to go forth
bhutto is dead and the moron is still clearing brush….where is god?
trying to line up a good shot with a bolt of lightning?
On sabbatical.
hope so…bad seed!!!
It’s a ruse. The current right-wing marching orders are to “criticize” Bush “policies”, while endlessly repeating trigger words like “al Qaeda”.
He IS that crazy..
He changed the laws to run again.. He noticed the same thing I did..
Not many Paki politicians have retired.
Their terms usually end at the same time their lives do..
yes
im trully feeling ill in the tummy
al-qaida is so convenient a scapegoat for bushco to use…………. my mind boggles at it all
Of course. He’s their biggest recruitment booster. Bush and al Qaeda are thugs, and murderers of women and children, some argue.
100% agree…all GOLDSTEIN all the time imo
The world is better off when Bush is clearing brush.
Arsonist damages Bush family’s former Odessa home
from HoustonChronicle
George H.W. and Barbara Bush and his family rented the home during the late 1940s. The home now sits behind the Presidential Museum and Leadership Library in Odessa.
as long as he has the nukkkkkular codes it really isnt safe
I will say it again. Ms. Bhutto wrote before her death that if she were killed, then the world should focus on Musharraf.
And hanging out with his buddies; Jack Daniel, Jim Beam, and Jose Cuervo.
and coke
That’s right.
Leverett
funny he isnt chewing his cud anymore…they must have removed that temptation from him
Do you think the CIA knows anything about Bhutto’s death?
confessions of an economic hitman…just sayin
There’s Democracy… Bush style. And then there’s Democracy… Bhutto style.
Chris Dodd coming up on Countdown
Perhaps you should send them an e-mail.
What does this country do about Bhutto assassination?
Dodd: I’ve lost a good friend…region is now in a more precarious position than ever…the nuclear weapons are the biggest issue…don’t force Musharrif to step down…stability is key…need to postpone the elections…offer help to determine who was responsible for the killing
I am listening to Dodd. And I am not pleased.
Dodd: if elections went forward now, the opposition would not have time to reorganize…delay is a wise step to take
Is it possible they don’t?
(Knowledge may or may not have anything to do with complicity.)
I’m all for it. Of course, he’d have to give up his Senate seat to prove he was serious.
Dodd: country has a nuclear arsenal…could cause devastation tomorrow…could destabilize the entire region…supporting Musharrif is a short-term answer, not a long-term answer. Al Qaeda probably did it.
You think?
“Then ol’fart McCain kicks, and we’re lookin’ at President Lieberman.”
Ms. Hamsher; I’m sure likin’ your “style” lately. :o)
Personally, I think Dodd is right, because there is no real opposition to Musharraf, and he’ll get elected by himself for a long term. They should postpone until Bhutto’s party can produce another candidate. Don’t let Bushcosharraf win.
Dodd: very important to maintain our current relationship with Pakistan regime
I believe you’re right. The Republicans I know won’t ever forgive McCain for running when Bush ran, and some Democrats said, “Oh, HE doesn’t seem so bad.” Many people told me that if Dems liked him, they wanted nothing to do with him. “He’s crazy. He sold us out when he was a POW.” They bought all the smears.
Do you think the CIA knows anything about Bhutto’s death?
Perhaps you should send them an e-mail.
As one who hangs out here a lot, I kinda think that sending the CIA an e-mail as to my thoughts would be redundant.
Obviously we should send Lieberman the peacenik, to Pakistan.
Gawd, I missed that!
Part of what he said, I agree with, but I don’t agree with that!!
Biden is the only one that makes sense.
Interestingly, as repugnant as Leiberman is, most of the Democrats in Congress have voted precisely the way Leiberman talks, and I mean almost all of them on almost every vote.
nobody does it better
Yeah, Lieberman…Ambassador to Pakistan!
If Clinton chose Dodd as her running mate I would not be unhappy.
Lieberman is a nuclear bomb.
Or Senator Palpatine
Or Willie Tanner from Alf
I have done a bunch of Internet research today on the Pakistan nuclear arsenal. The best I can figure out is that the warheads are kept disassembled, but can be reassembled “rapidly” (in hours?). In terms of the operational control of nuke deployment, the publicly available information is very vague, but it looks like Musharraf is in control of them.
I certainly hope that sane factions within our intelligence agencies, military, and state department have a clearer idea of the nuclear chain of command in Pakistan.
Dodd was arguing that it’s a case of the devil you know versus the devil you don’t know. He says we don’t know who/what would replace Musharrif right now, and we can’t risk someone worse replacing him. Need to give the opposition party a chance to regroup before elections are held.
Speaking for myself only of course, I wouldn’t be unhappy if HRC lost in the primaries.
I agree that McCain will be inclined to choose Lieberman, if he’s the nominee, and I’m thinking he’s likely to get the nomination; and I’m also thinking we would be looking at Prezdinent Lieberman down the line if elected. It could happen, but I still think we’re gonna get Edwards by a landslide…
He may be an SOB, but dammit, he’s our SOB.
Keith O questioning the conclusion of many Republicans that al Qaeda is responsible for the assassination
as cable impaired, I appreciate the reporting, thank you.
Thank you for that milk through the nose moment. Really. I’ll take a McCain/Lieberman ticket seriously, as soon as I can stop the rofl.
Keith’s expert says Bhutto was much more against al Qaeda than Mushie is
I’d like to know specifically from where Mr. Lieberman derives his campaign financing.
I would be substantially less than completely not unhappy if Obama lost the primary.
Kumba-fucking-ya hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!
Hopefully she won’t have that choice.
WFM!
How many negatives can you not fit into a sentence?
comment is lost in EPU – maybe i need to restart this machine…..
That is what I was attempting to say at #130. I got turned off by the Al Qaeda talk..
My theory is that W has counted on this exact scenario as an excuse to go hellbent into Pakistan (already in the works) in order to get OBL. He would just replace Moooshy with a General who needs the money, if he has to. I have a feeling there are a few more shoes to drop…I hope not, but Bushco will do anything to keep neocon power in office…
I wonder if any taxpayer $$ have gone towards paying the families of suicide bombers…Just sayin’.
Hey… I’m a stand up comic and didn’t even know it. (actually I was sitting down) ;0)
Keith’s terrorism expert asks, what happened to all the security that Mushie promised Bhutto?
It’s not for me to fail to leave unsaid.
ohh – mebbe not…..
the warheads are kept disassembled, but can be reassembled “rapidly” (in hours?). In terms of the operational control of nuke deployment, the publicly available information is very vague, but it looks like Musharraf is in control of them.
Well then, it’s obvious we must bomb the facilities where the Pakistani nuclear weapons are stored.
Dear Perv:
Sorry about all those holes in the ground.
Love,
George W. Bush.
First time ever that I have seen Evan Coleman puzzled…ever. Somethin’ just doesn’t add up, and even he’s confused.
You mean like the excellent control Pakistan had over the prisoner who escaped from armed guards last week, Rashid Rauf, that is the reason you can’t fly with toothpaste?
man wanted in Britain for last year’s Al-Qaeda plot to blow up transatlantic airliners Escapes
Aren’t you glad that your mother didn’t name you Pervez?
Did you read this one? Especially the comments.
http://www.armscontrolwonk.com…..tans-nukes
I loved your confident prediction of Edwards winning by a landslide. Thanks for cheering me up on this otherwise dreadful day.
oh, my. time to bring back those daily affirmations of unwavering contempt for HoJo?
I agree, and believe that this is why Hillary Mann Leverett was dropping so many Q-bombs on KO. I looked into this a bit, and, while she and Flynt are currently “critical” of Bush “policy”, she has serious neo-con cred. People like she are smart enough to distance themselves from Bush, while still advancing the neo-con warmongering agenda.
as I may have mentioned before, my contempt for Joe Lieberman knows no bounds.
I’m still trying to work through that one. At this point I’m not sure whether I want to agree with what you’re telling me or not. I’m going to surmise at this point you are an Obama fan.;0)
Dana Milbank says Bhutto killing benefits Rudy 9/11 9/11 9/11 Ghouliani, also somehow benefits Clinton?
I love logic. Can we do s’more?
Speaking for a whole helluva lot of people, we want Clinton out of the race as fast as possible. Her case for her foreign policy experience is ludicrous. Bush had no foreign policy experience, and obviously neither did Rice. We’ve seen the result of that.
Thanks for the link. That failed to dissuade me from not being sanguine.
Its good for the Complex which Eisenhower warned about (after he was leaving office) when it was too late for him to do anything about it. Gee, thanks, Ike, ya think? Thanks for changing the Pledge of Alegience – that helped.
Keith has devoted the entire hour to Pakistan
Actually, I couldn’t even figure that one out myself. I am not an Obama fan.
Please allow me to go on record as being negative on HRC and Obama.
be my guest *g*
I wish Olbermann would give Milbank the hook. Milquetoast Milbank is a pathetic excuse for a reporter. He’s always pointing out the bad news for Democrats.
Does anyone think we will ever know the true story of who was behind Ms. Bhutto’s murder?
Thankyou I will. ;0)
True. ;0)
we see the results of having a person in power with no intellect or foreign policy experience OR no curiousity…a middle east thats fallen off the goddamned rails!!
I do not.
Hello TexBetsy…
lahoma
What is
a little unhappy?
I’d be elated if he won.
Bhutto Blaims Mushariff whose Financier was US in the U.S.
Not me. I think there is a chance that he is a crypto-neocon, and with the other choices available, I’m not interested in taking that chance.
You know what? I’ve been reading all of the transcripts of the ongoing Princess Diana inquest…this is eerily reminiscent of the note she left her butler and the claims she made to her attorney and others…
Pete@144; you got it. We go with Clinton, and the phrase “snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” will go up the Capitol Dome in pulsating neon.
I’ve thought that too, but with Rove on the loose, I’m worried about trusting every nuance that I’m told. Interestingly, the Pukes know that the country does not want more neocons, yet, almost everyday we look at the Dem candidates, and all of the candidates we like are suddenly almost neocon or at least somehow tainted by that suspicion…except for Kucinich or Paul who are tainted as whackos.
I think we are being really manipulated.
Perhaps, but it seems clear she should have had better protection as a major political figure running for election in a country bigger than Russia.
That goes without saying.
Prof–
Please educate me. I don’t know what a crypto-neocon is, and am trying to figure out how you apply it to Obama once you clue me in.
Hillary has only been bashful about riding bush’s coattails since she saw what was going to happen at the mid-terms.
Bush is trying to fold Bhutto’s assassination into the “waronterr”, so as to pump up the fear machine, which has steadily been running out of air. Let’s see how many of the candidates will speak words that might help him.
No shizzola!! I’m with you.
Having Joe Lieberman as his senate “mentor” (Obama’s choice per Short Ride) and being a product of the Chicago machine are both indicators. Obviously not conclusive by any stretch but enough to make me wonder what else is back there
Yeah, I know…just wanted to make the point that we make assumptions based upon vague comments made out of context all the time. I went to an Obama rally…he is not a neocon.
Lieberman as mentor
iswas a problem…Lieberman went on to support McCain, etc., my problem with Obama is that he didn’t see it comin’; but in all fairness, he did see that the Iraq war was wrong before it happenened. I’m just saying that one has to question everything you hear, because the opposition is spinning everything…that is what they do so well. Of course, that is the subject of the post that follows this one.Oh god! Oh my fucking god! I curse your name, Jane Hamsher! You had to go and think the thought that will now materialize and destroy us like the staypuft marshmallow man in Ghostbusters. Vice Preznit Staypuft! Gaaa!
Kumba-fucking-ya… Such succinct sagacity excellent comment contains so much expression Thank You Mrs Hamsher best to you, hubby and the Peanut! Lottsa fun!!!
Sorry, I thought I was at the bottom of the previous post…D’Oh…..
Don’t forget that Obama chose Lieberman as mentor after he was elected to the Senate and that means after the war began. So I think if being against the invasion and occupation was so very important to him, he would have chosen a mentor who was not so wrapped up in supporting the invasion and occupation.
Obviously YMMV.
You are right.
Excellent anaysis: walk the walk if yo talk the talk. Sounds like political expediency to affiliate with Joe. So you see through the facade. They are all that way.
OT – THERE YOU GO AGAIN: Orwell Comes to America
If you have time, I highly recommend checking out the videos here (each part is approx. an hour long):
Part 1 Panel includes George Soros
http://www.nypl.org/research/c…..fm?id=3498
Part 2 Panel includes George Lakoff and Frank Luntz
http://www.nypl.org/research/c…..fm?id=3499
If you really want to understand why our country has turned in a fascist direction over the last 7 years, these panelists shed light on how it works.
- Tom
Jane…..
I can tolerate neither the sight of that man nor the sound of his smarmy sententious voice.
After your up-close time and yeoman effort on the Joe front, it is impossible to imagine how you must feel about even the merest scintilla of a hint you might have to deal with that slug again.
This needs to die aborning. McC seems senile and desperate, and your worst case scenario is *not* far-fetched. I say attack now!
So Impeach and leet the chips fall where thet may.
Thanks to Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer if you don’t get to see Joe with McCain you’ll see Joe with Hillary, and I suspect not as VP in either case but as Homeland Security Czar-hole.
And FISA now will seem like heaven compared with what it will be like under Joe Hillary or McCain.
I suggest we all head to Iowa and melt a path for Obama supporters.
I can’t understand why anyone thinks the R’s will nominate anyone but McCain. All the others will self-destruct (hopefully creating a lot of collateral damage). They are like a pack of Claytie Williamses who would be so bad even Republicans would have to vote for a liberal like Anne Richards by default. I don’t care if he can’t raise money, the money will eventually find its way to him as the last guy standing. And all Republicans I know at work think Droopy Dog is great (I know cuz they told me so when I would rant about how much I hated him last year).
I will just have to work twice as hard here in Texas. Since you can’t talk any sense to Republicans, my strategy is not to convert them to liberals, but to try to turn them into Paultards who will wander harmlessly over a cliff into oblivion (OK that’s not entirely harmless, especially to the denizens of oblivion, but still..).
FISA is being destroyed by S. 2248with or without immunity. And the FISA court okayed every warrant out of 20000 but 5 in its history and doesn’t think you have the right to know what any of its rullings were on illegal wiretapping.
With the demises of Guilani and Romney, whom are the rightards left with? Mick-fucking-Huckabee? No-fucking-way!
So, they’re left with the choice between John McCain and Ron Paul. That has to be difficult for a neocon. Very, very difficult. NOT!!
They’ll choose McCain, and by “they” I mean the entire village. And Joe’s their insurance. Yes, they’ll demand Joe. Sorry!
If the Democrats kick Lieberman out of the caucus, and he votes for the other side, then there is no more majority leader Reid. Now, that might not seem too different from now, but, if the Democrats lost control of the Senate, then they would not be in session right now, with pro forma meetings scheduled to prevent recess appointments. You can bet that W would use that instantly to appoint a raft of losers to all sorts of positions, people he could never get through the Senate regardless of how Lieberman votes.
I am very disappointed in Reid for a whole bunch of reasons, but this is one thing he has done that has actually made a difference. It rests on very shaky ground; don’t be too quick to give it up.
Of course, after 2008, the political calculus is likely to be quite different, and Lieberman may find his position to be fairly unpleasant.
Then old fart McCain kicks
In fact, McCain has had melanoma twice, still has something going on in his left cheek, and owes the public more information about his physical fitness for office.
This is Lieberman’s last hurrah. He knows the ‘08 election is going to put out his power. He’s being as obnoxious as he can be while he still has the chance.
Gooood LORD, Jane. Talk about “fear mongering”! The very idea of this is just terrorizing. I think I’ll go back to bed now.
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