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	<title>Comments on: Memo to Prez Candidates: Here&#8217;s Something Good You Can Do This New Year</title>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/memo-to-prez-candidates-heres-something-good-you-can-do-this-new-year/#comment-1167585</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt, unions have suffered telling attacks from the ‘noise machine’ over the last three decades.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, in my personal experience, when unions reach a ‘certain’ size, their ‘leadership’ (behave like the ‘Democratic leadership’ and) becomes far too cozy with ‘management’ and will not aggressively ‘fight’ for members’&lt;br /&gt;
genuine needs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we wish to discuss ‘history,’ then let us be honest; during the last fifty years few big unions have supported needful social change, whether civil rights, ending deceitful wars or supporting human rights generally -&lt;br /&gt;
have unions spoken about ‘torture,’ the rigging of elections, environmental degradation, the death penalty etc?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who has abandoned whom?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, quite frankly, isn’t the Writer’s Union a wee bit esoteric to serve as a general ‘example”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In our society writers generally, whether union or not, receive very short shrift.  Many commenting here might well be able to verify this assertion.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The most ’successful’ union in recent years represents baseball players&lt;br /&gt;
(whom we all know are underpaid and unappreciated).  How do you like them steriods?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Having said this however, the role that unions could play in helping to make this a better, more just and humane world is not unlike the role that Congress could play.  Methinks the greatest challenge facing both unions and that august body is the same: the sort of people attracted to ‘leadership’  leave ’something’ to be desired, call it ‘courage’ or call it ‘vision’; its lack is painful, costly and potentially disastrous.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt, unions have suffered telling attacks from the ‘noise machine’ over the last three decades.</p>
<p>However, in my personal experience, when unions reach a ‘certain’ size, their ‘leadership’ (behave like the ‘Democratic leadership’ and) becomes far too cozy with ‘management’ and will not aggressively ‘fight’ for members’<br />
genuine needs.</p>
<p>If we wish to discuss ‘history,’ then let us be honest; during the last fifty years few big unions have supported needful social change, whether civil rights, ending deceitful wars or supporting human rights generally -<br />
have unions spoken about ‘torture,’ the rigging of elections, environmental degradation, the death penalty etc?</p>
<p>Who has abandoned whom?</p>
<p>And, quite frankly, isn’t the Writer’s Union a wee bit esoteric to serve as a general ‘example”?</p>
<p>In our society writers generally, whether union or not, receive very short shrift.  Many commenting here might well be able to verify this assertion.  </p>
<p>The most ’successful’ union in recent years represents baseball players<br />
(whom we all know are underpaid and unappreciated).  How do you like them steriods?</p>
<p>Having said this however, the role that unions could play in helping to make this a better, more just and humane world is not unlike the role that Congress could play.  Methinks the greatest challenge facing both unions and that august body is the same: the sort of people attracted to ‘leadership’  leave ’something’ to be desired, call it ‘courage’ or call it ‘vision’; its lack is painful, costly and potentially disastrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In France unions are very powerful. People can’t get fired easily. Therefore, people don’t get hired easily either. In other words, unemployment in France is quite high, especially among the youth. But Sarkozy has promised to correct all that, if you know what I mean.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In France unions are very powerful. People can’t get fired easily. Therefore, people don’t get hired easily either. In other words, unemployment in France is quite high, especially among the youth. But Sarkozy has promised to correct all that, if you know what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: MeDaVinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeDaVinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree Biodun …&lt;br /&gt;
Just the way there is no escaping the fact that being part of the Bush-Cheney Fraternity insulates one from ANYTHING including death, incompetence, destruction, corruption et. al. Think: Blackwater, FEMA in New Orleans, everything in Iraq. Why bash unions??&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Biodun …<br />
Just the way there is no escaping the fact that being part of the Bush-Cheney Fraternity insulates one from ANYTHING including death, incompetence, destruction, corruption et. al. Think: Blackwater, FEMA in New Orleans, everything in Iraq. Why bash unions??</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ah, the middle way. I likes you QG!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the middle way. I likes you QG!</p>
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		<title>By: QuakerGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>QuakerGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Raven - I agree there is the other side of unions. I belonged to a teachers union when it was unpopular. It was considered “communistic” and union members were distrusted. Before unions we were at the mercy of bad administrators who collected a large salary doing very little while teachers were in the trenches carrying the heavy load for little pay. We had little benefits. An Administrator could fire using any pretense. It was ugly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unions corrected that, thus it became near impossible to fire really bad teachers who should not have been hired in the first place. The pendulum swong the opposite direction and lazy teachers sat on their a– doing nothing. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that throwing the baby out with the bath water s not the colution. Union reforms are necessary.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven &#8211; I agree there is the other side of unions. I belonged to a teachers union when it was unpopular. It was considered “communistic” and union members were distrusted. Before unions we were at the mercy of bad administrators who collected a large salary doing very little while teachers were in the trenches carrying the heavy load for little pay. We had little benefits. An Administrator could fire using any pretense. It was ugly.</p>
<p>Unions corrected that, thus it became near impossible to fire really bad teachers who should not have been hired in the first place. The pendulum swong the opposite direction and lazy teachers sat on their a– doing nothing. </p>
<p>It seems to me that throwing the baby out with the bath water s not the colution. Union reforms are necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Perhaps you are playing the “devil’s advocate” or you don’t really think unions are an effective tool.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Perhaps you are playing the “devil’s advocate” or you don’t really think unions are an effective tool.</em></p>
<p>Both</p>
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		<title>By: ticktock</title>
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		<dc:creator>ticktock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the real world nothing is perfect even unions. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, I wouldn’t throw out the baby with the bath water (pardon me).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There has been problems on both sides of the table regarding management and unions implementing an effective strategy to address the issue you submitted.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you are playing the “devil’s advocate” or you don’t really think unions are an effective tool.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe in Utah if you work there you can be fired without any specific cause, rhyme, or reason has to be brought up. (Right to Work State). So, if you don’t have a union to back you up it’s basically “Sayonara, it’s been swell, don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the real world nothing is perfect even unions. </p>
<p>Still, I wouldn’t throw out the baby with the bath water (pardon me).</p>
<p>There has been problems on both sides of the table regarding management and unions implementing an effective strategy to address the issue you submitted.</p>
<p>Perhaps you are playing the “devil’s advocate” or you don’t really think unions are an effective tool.</p>
<p>I believe in Utah if you work there you can be fired without any specific cause, rhyme, or reason has to be brought up. (Right to Work State). So, if you don’t have a union to back you up it’s basically “Sayonara, it’s been swell, don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out”.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;… and the UAW has done a fine job looking after their constituency, n’est pas?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>… and the UAW has done a fine job looking after their constituency, n’est pas?</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Saved by the Redd!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saved by the Redd!</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In any event, Christy’s upstairs…and I’m lonely up there…*g* The Bhutto business musta drained everyone today. Sad.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any event, Christy’s upstairs…and I’m lonely up there…*g* The Bhutto business musta drained everyone today. Sad.</p>
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