Comments on: Home for the Culture Wars http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:17:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: bernie68 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1169215 bernie68 Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:26:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1169215 <p>Here’s another place to look to debunk some of the crud that flows through the internets — David Emery at About.com has been running the Urban Legends site for maybe 8-10 years…I find it as reliable as Snopes.</p> <p><a href="http://www.urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/current_netlore.htm" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://urbanlegends.about.com/…..etlore.htm" rel="nofollow">http://urbanlegends.about.com/…..etlore.htm</a> >></p> <p><em>[Mod Note; this may be the correct link <a href="http://www.urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/current_netlore.htm" rel="nofollow">www.urbanlegends.about.com/od/.....etlore.htm</a> ]</em></p> Here’s another place to look to debunk some of the crud that flows through the internets — David Emery at About.com has been running the Urban Legends site for maybe 8-10 years…I find it as reliable as Snopes.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/…..etlore.htm >>

[Mod Note; this may be the correct link http://www.urbanlegends.about.com/od/.....etlore.htm ]

]]> By: MrWhy http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168490 MrWhy Fri, 28 Dec 2007 07:03:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168490 <p>From Snopes:</p> <blockquote><p>Claim: Photograph shows Barack Obama without his hand over his heart while the U.S. national anthem is being played.</p> <p>Status: True.</p> <p>… We could not find any information substantiating the claim … that Senator Obama refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance.</p></blockquote> <p>So Snopes has it exactly correct. The photo was taken during the singing of the national anthem, and Obama does not have a hand over his heart. The video in the Snopes article shows most of the candidates with their right hand over their heart. For the time that Obama is visible in the clip, he clearly does not have a hand over his heart.</p> <p>Because of how Edwards is facing, you can’t tell whether he has a hand over his heart. Clinton, Richardson, Dodd, Biden, and Senator and Mrs. Harkin, do have a hand over their heart.</p> <p>I’m not casting any aspersions, I think the story is a non-story myself. But Snopes did not mess up, it got the story right. You have to read the whole Snopes article and put things in context.</p> From Snopes:

Claim: Photograph shows Barack Obama without his hand over his heart while the U.S. national anthem is being played.

Status: True.

… We could not find any information substantiating the claim … that Senator Obama refused to say the Pledge of Allegiance.

So Snopes has it exactly correct. The photo was taken during the singing of the national anthem, and Obama does not have a hand over his heart. The video in the Snopes article shows most of the candidates with their right hand over their heart. For the time that Obama is visible in the clip, he clearly does not have a hand over his heart.

Because of how Edwards is facing, you can’t tell whether he has a hand over his heart. Clinton, Richardson, Dodd, Biden, and Senator and Mrs. Harkin, do have a hand over their heart.

I’m not casting any aspersions, I think the story is a non-story myself. But Snopes did not mess up, it got the story right. You have to read the whole Snopes article and put things in context.

]]> By: PhysioProf http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168294 PhysioProf Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:36:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168294 <p>Never mind. I found the party upstairs.</p> Never mind. I found the party upstairs.

]]> By: PhysioProf http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168285 PhysioProf Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:32:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168285 <p>Anyone still here?</p> Anyone still here?

]]> By: FelixMoronia http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168249 FelixMoronia Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:16:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168249 <p>Does anyone think it possible that Mrs. Bhutto mis-spoke in that clip? Like maybe she meant to Daniel Pearl or another murder victim we know about.<br /> Just checked wiki, D. Pearl was murdered by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh.</p> Does anyone think it possible that Mrs. Bhutto mis-spoke in that clip? Like maybe she meant to Daniel Pearl or another murder victim we know about.
Just checked wiki, D. Pearl was murdered by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh.

]]> By: TexBetsy http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168243 TexBetsy Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:14:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168243 <p>My parents’ best characteristic is their lefty leanings.</p> My parents’ best characteristic is their lefty leanings.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168242 Phoenix Woman Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:14:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168242 <p>Snopes/Barbara Mikkelsen’s problem is that she knows full well that the lion’s share of the wackos are right-wingers, but she apparently feels that for “balance”’s sake (aka “maybe this might stop the wingnuts from sending me hate mail”) she has to pick something at random and pretend that it’s true (if it reflects badly on liberals or well on conservatives) or false (if it reflects well on libs or badly on cons).</p> Snopes/Barbara Mikkelsen’s problem is that she knows full well that the lion’s share of the wackos are right-wingers, but she apparently feels that for “balance”’s sake (aka “maybe this might stop the wingnuts from sending me hate mail”) she has to pick something at random and pretend that it’s true (if it reflects badly on liberals or well on conservatives) or false (if it reflects well on libs or badly on cons).

]]> By: bonkers http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168240 bonkers Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:13:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168240 <p>It sure would’ve as many of us were saying as soon as the Dems took over last year. One positive out of all this “off the table” babble is that true colors are being exposed in the Dem Party finally. We know how much more work we have to go yet.</p> <p>“More and Better in ‘08!!!”</p> It sure would’ve as many of us were saying as soon as the Dems took over last year. One positive out of all this “off the table” babble is that true colors are being exposed in the Dem Party finally. We know how much more work we have to go yet.

“More and Better in ‘08!!!”

]]> By: bonkers http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168235 bonkers Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:10:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168235 <blockquote><p> Yes, that is definitely the working agenda. Make money through promoting war. T’riffic</p></blockquote> <p>Ugh. It’s just such an old story that is so out in the open, and I can’t understand why people aren’t rising up against the Machine. Generals Butler and Eisenhower among many others all called the War Pigs out as far back as the 1920s and earlier, yet the public continues to yawn. Jeezus, we have got to get more people onto to places like FDL immediately.</p> <p><a href="http://warisaracket.com" rel="nofollow">http://warisaracket.com</a></p>

Yes, that is definitely the working agenda. Make money through promoting war. T’riffic

Ugh. It’s just such an old story that is so out in the open, and I can’t understand why people aren’t rising up against the Machine. Generals Butler and Eisenhower among many others all called the War Pigs out as far back as the 1920s and earlier, yet the public continues to yawn. Jeezus, we have got to get more people onto to places like FDL immediately.

http://warisaracket.com

]]> By: juslin http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168224 juslin Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:05:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/27/home-for-the-culture-wars/#comment-1168224 <p>eisenhower warned us re the M-I complex but no attention was paid - ergo the perpetual war machine rages on and on seemingly unstoppable</p> eisenhower warned us re the M-I complex but no attention was paid – ergo the perpetual war machine rages on and on seemingly unstoppable

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