dday catches an intriguing bit in an interview with J.William Leonard, the head of the National Archives' Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO), which deals with classified documents from the executive branch. To wit:
...Up until 2002, OVP was just like any other agency. Subsequent to that, they stopped reporting to us…At first, I took that to be, 'we're too busy.' Then we routinely attempted to do a review of the OVP and it was at that point in time it was articulated back to me that: 'well they weren't really subject to our reviews.'
The laws need not apply to Dick Cheney and his minion squad, you see. As I read this, my mind flashed back to reporting that Murray Waas did in the months prior to the Libby trial, and a point which I made back then:
Lookee here, Junior was willing to do pretty much anything to save his own ass from being tarred with the liar brush -- but when he got cornered on the lies, he dispatched the mean team. And guess who the captain was?
Bush also told federal prosecutors during his June 24, 2004, interview in the Oval Office that he had directed Cheney, as part of that broader effort, to disclose highly classified intelligence information that would not only defend his administration but also discredit Wilson, the sources said.
But Bush told investigators that he was unaware that Cheney had directed I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the vice president's chief of staff, to covertly leak the classified information to the media instead of releasing it to the public after undergoing the formal governmental declassification processes....
That's an awful lot of "shut the sonofabitch up, but play by the rules as you do it" from a bunch of political players who wouldn't know a rule if it bit them on the ass....
Let's see, the most powerful Vice President in history, who has been given a specific charge from the President of the United States to get out the information that fully rebuts and shuts up an Administration critic on the vital lynchpin of the argument for war in Iraq...just took notes on Amb. Wilson's op-ed as a thought process exercise or as a means to work through the Sunday Jumble or something....
Wasn't buying it then, still not buying it.
dday's tagged Cheney with the nickname "Fourthbranch," which I think is mockingly hilarious -- "(like the Taco Bell ad: "think outside the Constitution")". And, as dday so aptly points out, the Fourthbranch way is a sort of six degrees of separation between Cheney and whatever illegal activity may be in the offing. First using Libby, and now perhaps David Addington with hanging questions about the CIA torture tapes and who gave the burn bag orders on them.
Which takes me all the way back to some Congressional testimony about Dick and his minion posse:
The vice president and his chief of staff went out to CIA headquarters on a number of occasions -- at least on two occasions -- specifically to address the questions of weapons of mass destruction and the attempt to acquire a nuclear capability. These meetings, I'm told secondhand, were contentious, but the vice president insisted that there must be some support for this reporting of the yellow cake acquisition attempt....
At the time, that chief of staff was I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. But I have heard that David Addington also accompanied the Vice President on occasion back to his old employer's at Langley to push the Veep's agenda as well. bmaz at Emptywheel's breaks down the potential Records Act violations and the various permutations of potential loopholes or lack thereof.
I keep thinking about the Frontline piece on Cheney's Law -- a clip of which I've attached to this post -- and the stealthy, long-term way that Cheney and his true believer Fourthbranch minion squad have infiltrated the whole of government, infesting it with their "the laws don't apply to us" cult. And wondering how long it is going to take to root out all that oathbreaking, power-grabbing paranoia in the years that follow. And whether there is anything these people won't do to cover their own asses tracks.
(More resources on Cheney's Law here.)
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Hello, Christy…
Hi Christy…
Impeach.
What’s the magic word?
Now.
Great post, Christy.
Much of the worst of the Bush Administration falls in the category of “things that aren’t explicitly prohibited because no administration operating in good faith would ever try to do them.” Unless this is repudiated by impeaching Cheney, it seems like the only other remedy is for Congress to pass a whole raft of laws for “as any idiot ought to be able to figure out, this isn’t allowed.” (Once the idiot who would veto them is gone, that is.)
Think outside the Constitution. Okay, if Congress refuses to use their checks and balances on the Executive branch, and the judicial branch has been merged with the exec, then what is the check on the Fourth Branch power?
This is the question I would like to see discussed somewhere, sometime. IOW, what are the names of the “branches” of power and how should they check and balance each other?
It’s a new game of Risk and the pieces need new labels it seems to this insignificant citizen.
CHS:
I think it was “dday”, not “digby” that tagged him “Fourthbranch”.
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Yes, as thrilled as I am that you think my writing in any way can be compared to Digby, ’twas I that threw that post together. Thank you for liking it!
I certainly did! Great job, dday & a most fitting appellation for old deadeye.
dday!
When Congress refuses to hold real investigations and is unwilling to call the executive’s numerous bluffs, who can be surprised that Cheney feels himself to be above the law?
Congress by and large is either complicit or corrupt. I vote for a little of each.
Put the arrogant scumbag’s ass in *ucking jail. “Corporate Treason”
America need the likes of a Smedley Butler……….
Where are you Colin Powell?
looking at Hugh’s list, he seems to have missed some of this… calling Hugh…
No man is an Island, unless he is Dick Cheney.
He’s hiding in an aluminum tube.
How many Fourth Branches are there on a Shrub?
-G
They are nourished by the fertilizer in his brain.
Ignoring and out-and-out breaking the law seems to be OK with congress because it is under a new classification they cannot penetrate. It’s called: ABOVE THE FRAY. Where is Chenet? Above the fray. Where is George? Above the fray. OK. That settles it. Next subject.
seems to me if ol’ fourthbranch isn’t a part of the executive branch then the Senate ethics committee should be able to do something… being how as he’s king of the congress and all…
OK. I’m doing a really bad job editing my own comments today. @17 Chenet would really be Cheney. Help!
The IS NO check on the 4th branch.
That’s the point.
We understand. The t is next to the y key…*g*
You see I figured it was Tenet - seeing as the ch key is so close to the t key…
:D
Does this mean Cheney’s not going to give squat to the National Archives, so posterity can see what a crook he is in perpetuity? Honestly Cheney and ChimpCo have holed themselves up like a bunch of gangsters. Nothing can be enforced, unless at least one of our coequal branches of government decides to get forceful. Hint to Congress: some of us would like to see Harriet Miers testify.
Found this link on “security” for Bhutto’s last rally interesting.
So much for full proof security.
OT - Larry Johnson with a good post on Pakistan.
Uh, thanks. I got that. I wanted to encourage some brainstorming. What lever would move Fourthbranch the way we want it to? Who does FB listen to, and who do they listen to, etc.
Instead of wringing our hands about how things should work a certain way and yet don’t, what else might be in play? Why are WE thinking “creatively”?
An example. Chile doesn’t want to send its troops to Iraq to support the US. So what happens? Blackwater hires their troops and ultimately get what they want.
So what workaround is possible with FB?
That’s what I’m trying to get at…
whoops, meant to say “why aren’t WE thinking creatively”?
sigh.
It’s a shame that the testimony Bill Leonard gave, paired with the pathetic and bumbling James Knodell, before Waxman’s committee last spring garnered almost no press coverage, coming on the heels of the more sensational appearance (in both senses of the word) of Valerie Wilson.
Oh crap. This is the most alarming. Leonard:
So Cheney thinks that old rules regarding classification, and declassification and the National archives and the public’s right to know don’t apply to him? This is not news. But this information somehow gives Cheney a more sinister color, if that’s at all possible. It smells like dictatorship.
Tastes like dictatorship, too.
You must admit, putting in chimp as your front man is quite a distraction.
Fourthbranch? Hmm, sounds a little like Fourthreich to me.
OT: Dow down 192.08, oil up 96.70. Gold up 828.8…and still counting..
Larry Johnson. spoken very strongly. Not sure I agree with him though. Turkey is another example where there are contradictions within contradictions on the rise of Islamicist IMHO. I think from very little of what I know about Pakistan, the same may be true.
Whatever Fourthbranch is now or becomes, I’m sure it’ll be good for Republicans.
dday — apologies — I’ve corrected it in the post. My bad…
OT: (sorta)
Here is a link to an article in OPEDNews.com
Seems that the Kansas GOP chair who used to work for Ashcroft sent out a list of accomplishments that included caging more votes in 2007 than the previous two years combined. Boy, the GOP should be proud of such folks.
What I love about “the blogs”…blogger makes mistake, blogger called on mistake, blogger acknowledges mistake, blogger corrects mistake.
No big whoop.
Jokeline, take note. This is how it works. And it DOES work.
puravida — In this case, it was my fault for working on this late last night and not giving a second edit today. I usually do a second read through if it’s a late writing piece, for exactly this reason. But the Bhutto coverage pretty much ate up that time this morning. As I said, my bad…
Leonard and especially Knodell get smoked by Paul Hodes (D-NH) at the Plame hearing.
Apologies? You read something I wrote and think Digby wrote it and you think that merits APOLOGIES? Allow me to thank you!!!
No worries…
the vice president just made shit up, he had an agenda and he made shit up to go with agenda
he’s done it before, he did it then and then again in Iran
this is a must read for everyone
dday,
I sent that article you wrote on Ol’ Fourthbranch around to several friends. Very good!
I just don’t like to misattribute is all — I try to be very careful about that, because I know how much work I put into my pieces, and I assume that everyone else does that kind of work as well. And it’s only fair to give credit where it is due on this sort of thing. (Although if someone thought one of my pieces was by Digby, I’d be pretty damned happy about that, too… *g*)
Christy, at the rate you and your fellow posters work here I’m amazed at how consistently accurate you all are. But it’s even more impressive that mistakes are corrected nearly instantaneously. And rather than detracting from the writing it simply adds to the credibility of your work.
Just my way of saying thanks to FDL.
(btw, I used to be mc)
Great post Christy!!
Hmmmm…”directed Cheney, as part of that broader effort, to disclose highly classified intelligence information that would not only defend his administration but also discredit Wilson, the sources said.”
So, does that mean that disclosing Plame’s name did 2 things…
1) Outing Plame defended the Administration from what? How could outing Plame defend the Administration?
2) Discredit Joe Wilson.
(As opposed to outing her to get at Joe Wilson…)
Does “his administration” mean administration/delegation/direction or Administration as in Cabinet…the Administration/administration..two different meanings - Noun or Verb.
In other words, as it is written, it is saying that he told Cheney to disclose the information in order to defend his administration (verb not capitalized) of something perhaps directing someone to do something like put the 16 words in the speech even when advised against it…or go to war when you know you are lying about the justification…..something like that, plus throw Wilson to the wolves..
And, what was the “broader effort”…
Just some questions that arise in my mind, and they are probably ridiculous.
LS — Go back through to the original piece that I linked up — and to Murray’s reporting as well. All those questions are raised and partially answered, but not fully because, as per usual, with this crowd you only get so far before they shut down the conversation.
Colin Powell was the first guy to cover up Mai Lai. He hasn’t been a man of honor, ever.
Bread and cereal up, milk up, eggs up, cooking oil up…
This is going to be a hard winter for a lot of people.
Team B.
Impeach.
Okay!! I will. Thank you. :)
My lady and me want to wish each and everyone of you a very good New Year! This time next year we will be getting ready for a brand new Democratic President.
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Regarding Mr. Cheney. lahoma advises me she has a feeling he is a very bad man. That takes care of the Cheney issue for me.
In the matter of Richard Cheney v. The World, I am caustic.
He doesn’t just “feel” he’s above the law - if those charged with the responsibility for conducting oversight don’t have the spine to confront him then he *IS* above the law.
Cheney and his crew make me think of Jim Lampley (boxing commentator) yelling when a brawl broke out during the Bowe-Golota fight.
“The ring is being stormed by thugs and hooligans and someone’s going to get hurt in there!”
9/11 was an inside job and Cheney was in it up to his ears. Get your wakeup call at www.secretwarsinter.com
Gold Up? Ron Paul VERY HAPPY!