The events of the past week have been humming over on the Know-Nothing front.
We've got arch-anti-brown-immigrant dude Tom Tancredo pulling out of the presidential race -- and Ron Paul's people immediately wooing key Tancredo campaign members such as Minuteman leader Craig Halverson. (This is funny in itself, as Tancredo has officially thrown his support to Mitt Romney.)
We've also got Ron Paul refusing to rule out a run as an independent, which in addition to the prospect of Mike Huckabee being the nominee is making certain Republican bigwigs sweat, if for no other reason than that Ron Paul, unlike the other Republicans, is too obvious in his dog-whistling to the nutballs and racists among the American electorate, to the point where he refuses to repudiate the cash and beliefs of white- supremacist "Stormfront" leader Don Black, who sent him a big check recently. Republicans know that while the corporate press in the US will let them get away with wink-wink, nudge-nudge appeals to racist Neo-Confederates (see, for example, the careers of Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, and various other prominent Southern Republicans, all of whom have got discreet veils of silence drawn over the sovereignty commisions and other segregationist power brokers who made them what they are), bigots who don't hide behind the Stars and Bars and "heritage" but instead proudly wave the Nazi flag are beyond the pale for even Big Media. (Speaking of dog-whistling to the bigots, Ron Paul is claiming that the South would have gladly and peacefully ended slavery if the North had just bought their slaves and then freed them. Gee, tell me another fairy story, Dr. Paul.)
Meanwhile, Huckabee's hopes of picking up some of the Tancredo vote were dashed when the word got out among Tancredo's people that he really wasn't One Of Them as far as hating on the Evil Brown Reconquista Hordes went.
But for my money, the funniest news of the past week was finding out that Ron Paul has picked up the cherished Vox Day endorsement.
Vox Day is the nom de plume of prominent conservative web and local radio gadfly Theodore "Ted" Beale. His father, Robert Beale, was doing his absolute best to avoid ever paying taxes, and because of this is currently in the hoosegow. (No doubt Ron Paul's pledge to abolish the IRS resonates with Young Teddy because of the recent unpleasantness.)
Vox's endorsement was posted on Ron Paul's website on December 19, which ironically enough was the day the story broke about Ron Paul taking and keeping the contribution from Don Black.
Why 'ironically'?
Because, among other things, Voxy Ted's the guy who's referred to Barack Obama as "Hussein Osama".
You see, Young Master Ted's quite fond of expressing his blatant bigotry by dipping into the white-supremacist bag of poisonous racial stereotypes. He also says that "B. Hussein Obama" can be relied on not to "break into rap" or go around "impregnating the staff". He's told the "melanin-enhanced individuals" among us that they shouldn't talk as if they had a "mouffull of collahd motha-fuckin greenz."
But he's more than just a hater of black people. Ted's bigotry is indeed inclusive, even world-embracing; it extends to cover Jews (who he says the government should encourage, along with blacks, to have lots of abortions) and Mexican immigrants and women (he really, really, really hates women) and scientists. But he's a Good Christian, he himself says so, so it's all OK!
Just the sort of guy I'd want on my side, if I was looking to appeal to Republican primary voters. As for winning over the general-election crowd: Eh, not so much.
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Foist!
Republicans know how to stoop low. Yet they keep winning.
We don’t have to embrace bigotry, but I think a little shit-slinging would be one helluva good idea. Once we win, we can raise the level of discourse.
A round of applause to Senator Webb: Senate meets briefly to block Bush
A nine-second session gaveled in and out by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va., prevented Bush from appointing as an assistant attorney general a nominee roundly rejected by majority Democrats(Steven Bradbury, acting chief of the Justice Department’s Office of Legislative)…..In practice, Wednesday’s pro forma process was almost comical.
“Good morning!” Webb, sporting a respectful tie and jacket, called to the floor staff assembled just for the occasion in an otherwise sleepy and chilly Capitol. One clerk congratulated Webb on being 30 seconds early, thrice the amount of time it would take to complete the Senate’s work for the day.
Climbing to the president’s chair, Webb took the gavel and banged it.
“The Senate will come to order,” he intoned, reading from a two-line script to a floor empty of other senators but witnessed from the gallery by one reporter and about a half dozen staffers. “Under the previous order, the Senate stands in recess until Friday, December 28th, 2007 at 10 a.m.” His work done, Webb left.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ick_senate
Bradbury had signed two secret memos in 2005 saying it was OK for the CIA to use harsh interrogation techniques
Visiting my mother in Kitsap County WA. Lots of Ron Paul signs on Viking Way between Silverdale and Poulsbo. Nobody else’s. As to real politics, everybody is very happy that my high school buddy Norm Dicks is bringing in some needed cash to the district. Don’t knock pork barrel politics. That pork sometimes goes where it’s needed, and people remember.
Hello, everyone! Get all your zeds?
Hi, PW! Who was ThatGuy?
Was? You mean I’m dead already?
Lessee - nope, still got a pulse!
nope
Heh!
If you mingle your affairs with theirs, they are your brothers - Qu’ran
Thanks for this informative briefing. I had not heard of Vox. He seems like an unabashed asshole. Good for Ron Paul. What is a little shocking to me is witnessing the young college women throwing their support to Ron Paul. Perhaps many are simply not aware of his positions on women’s rights. Perhaps they don’t really think it through that the pro-life position is one that takes away the right to control their own bodies. And it would likely be a first step in the diminishment of other hard-won rights like equal pay (for example).
Then there’s Paul’s overtly racist 1992 article.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....639/426519
As far as I’m concerned anyone who has a Ron Paul sign on their lawn or wears a Ron Paul button is just waving a huge, brightly colored flag that proclaims “I’m batshit crazy.”
Hiya PHX WMN, you been practicing with the Etch-A-Sketch?
;)
I second that emotion.
Hi PW. Great post.
I think Glenn Greenwald makes a good point about Paul’s candidacy, which is that he focuses attention on certain issues that demand attention, but are ignored by mainstream candidates and media outlets.
Is it harmful to take a nuanced approach to Paul, and say, “Well, he takes some batshit crazy positions, but he also raises some really important issues concerning America’s role in the international community and in relation to the Constitution”? I would like to see the candidates that I think are not fundamentally nutso address some of these issues.
Seems that Paul’s appeal is tied very much to his isolationist-styled rhetoric. Everybody is tired of the US meddling in the affairs of other nations, spending billions of dollars that lines the pockets of the wrong people and reaps no gain for the common American. This strikes a solid chord with people. Otherwise, Paul is a cretin.
I concur. Motion carried? Let it be entered into the record. Cause there’s just no crazy like batshit crazy.
I am seeing a lot of Paul’s signs here in south Louisiana as well. Either a bunch of people aren’t educating themselves on what Paul’s positions really are, or they are just letting their freak flag fly. Either way, ick.
Yeah, an OB-GYN who doesn’t believe in evolution.
That might be able to happen if the media were ever to actually do their job. Issues? We don’t need no stinkin’ issues. We can talk about haircuts and laughs and Paris Hilton and whose little sister is pregnant, or… Oh. Is there an election happening? Where was I…
An OB-GYN that doesn’t believe in evoluton is an OX-MRN.
I think they are only hearing the questions that are asked and answered. Not what Paul stands for in total. Although, many who support him will be delighted to learn he is the same kind of racist they are. (Gross generalization)
Well, when you put it that way: “Never mind”.
I think Paul arrives at some conclusions that I support through some batshit crazy reasoning. And the preponderance of his positions are just plain batshit crazy.
So I don’t think I’m willing to cut him much slack for those few positions I might agree with.
And I do recall seeing somewhere that Ron Paul is Lyndon Larouche for the 21st Century.
That, too!
Pumkinhead and his Media contemporaries must call Dick Cheney to ask permission before disclosing any bona-fide information regarding anything.
any number of reasons why he might be considered an asshole and an idiot.
Oh, and by the way, Stormfront’s Don Black says that Paul’s one of them and meets with them all the time — he just can’t come out and say it openly, y’know:
The idea is not to “cut him slack” for any of his positions, but rather to use him as an entry point for addressing issues that go almost completely ignored by other candidates. For example, one big problem I have with Edwards’s candidacy is that he is unwilling to connect the dots between the US’s imperial approach to foreign policy with his (correct) notion of “two Americas” on the domestic policy front.
Ron Paul deserves this much credit: he is very effective at exposing the utter idiocy of his fellow Republicans (I’m gonna double Guatanamo!!). The fact that he, himself, is lunatic fringe (return to the Gold Standard??) is a double bonus. It means the rest of them are crazier than he!
That note was written by Bill White, and regardless of one’s opinion of Paul, there is ample documented reason to take anything White says with a large grain of salt.
This from one of the commenters on the Bill White story:
you got that right, wdd!
Ron Paul: Portrait in Cur Rage
nice one punaise
Punperson!
Do you like losing?
There is a lot of Ron Paul stuff I don’t believe in, either.
But, I fervently believe in what remains, like ending the Iraq War, restoring Constitutional rights, closing the Federal Reserve, freedom of the Internet, solid family values, neutralizing Zionism in our country, and respect for the Founding Fathers.
No. The face in the mirror may not be pretty, but it’s one I can live with.
And it’s worth noting that an aggressive stand using the truth is more than enough. It’s the “aggressive” part I worry about more.
are you trying to imply that any woman who supports an anti-choice candidate is “not thinking it through?”
i hope not.
I cannot support a man who does not support the rights of half of humankind.
what newtonusr says
Bunch o’ White Supremecists meeting at a restaurant owned and operated by brown people. I guess they have good food. What a bunch of racist pricks. Pat Puke-cannon, too.
I guess they figured that would be the last place folks would look for storm troopers…
or maybe they think paul is the lesser of the evil choices?
i don’t get how someone who voted for the iraq war is any less batshit crazy than paul.
seriously.
not my candidate - not by a long shot. but wtf? it’s not like we have a slate of not batshit crazy politicians to choose from. why pick on paul supporters anymore than clinton supporters?
That does seem strange. Plays into the idea that Bill White is not being truthful. Having known a few people with his type of ideology, they would no sooner eat in a “foreign” restaurant than they would sprout wings and fly.
calculating and immoral but not batshit crazy.
amen.
how exactly do you tell the difference?
I’m going to have to give that some thought.
For me, there are some litmus tests. Like racism. I don’t care if the candidate is in accord with me on every other issue, I could never vote for a racist. Seems to be pretty much evidence that Ron Paul is a rascist, even without Bill White’s fantasy.
i guess i think it’s possible that a militaristic imperialism justified by american supremacy is, at this time, more dangerous than gun toting white supremacist militias.
i’d love to live in a world where i could reject both, but that’s not the world i see in front of me.
… and it’s not so clear to me that the bush/clinton iraq imperial policies, which have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths (probably more like a million and a half) are not the greater threat.
combine that with a drug war that has a million americans in prison - overwhelmingly biased towards the not-white americans and how is that policy and less racist than anything paul has advocated?
is it easier to see paul’s racism because it is not socially acceptable and harder to see the racism in our “drug war” and our militaristic imperial foreign policy?
ok then, tell me who of our candidates is not a racist.
… ‘cuz i think anyone who supports our “drug war” is supporting institutional racism.
Smear and false flag operations abound, as the MSM tries to upset the Ron Paul bandwagon.
First, the MSM invested in Giuliani, then Thompson, and now Huckabee, all to no avail.
As Zogby said last Friday, Ron Paul will surprise in Iowa.
repeating the disclaimer - i am not a paul supporter. not at all.
i just don’t get the shit we’re giving to his supporters (i mean the non-stormfront ones).
I understand your argument about the drug war, which is wrongheaded on many scores. But I don’t think the drug war is motivated primarily by racism, whereas that seems to be prime motivating factor for Paul, in all the old-fashioned overt ways.
Huckabee? No way. They turned on him hard as soon as one poll showed that he was a threat. Mitt, Rudy, McCain are all OK, and Thompson would be too, if he could show some traction. (It’s kind of fun watching them realize than even their advocacy won’t get Rudy out of his self-dug hole.)
I believe that I did imply that. I am curious now as to what your position is. You have made some very thoughtful comments - especially number 54. Are you compelled to defend others out of respect for their religious beliefs or is anti-choice your personal position? I apologize if I’ve offended you. If that is your position, then may I ask why it is that you feel it necessary to impose your personal beliefs and thereby impose your will on another and would endeavor to dictate to another adult woman what she can and cannot do with her own body up to the first trimester?
face it. the repubs have nothing but losers and they’re waking up to that fact.
Well, uh, this is America. We have a few of those.
well, i can’t know the motivation (of supporters of the drug war or paul) - so i go by the actions.
Just so people know, Ron Paul’s district is just south of Houston, mostly in Brazoria County. We consider this land to be the armpit of Texas. If there were hills, I’d expect to hear “Dueling Banjos” if you catch my drift. The whole area is mostly chemical plant after chemical plant, mile after mile, and the rest is swamp.
BTW, the term “recent unpleasantness” is reserved by us southerners for the War of Northern Aggression.
Motivations on first approximation are what the supporters say they are: to get rid of drugs. Of course, just because they say it doesn’t make it so, but if you think the motivation is different from what they say, give some evidence.
everything in good time
Bless your heart.
Agree with this. Most of Paul’s supporters are either active duty troops (fed a steady diet of FOX news), or young people (probably raised Republican) getting active out of outrage. They may be woefully undercounted in standard polls (no land-line), or they may end up not participating particularly in caucus states. It will be very interesting to see. But clearly there’s a lot of “young Republicans” out there not willing to toe the line.
strato you in texas? any interest in meeting the rest of the texas firepups? our next get-together is february in austin.
Fort Sumpter looked at you crosseyed? *g*
I think their first motivation is to get rid of drugs which is a total waste of time. It is like telling people they can only have sex using the missionary position. Nobody listens and most do what they want anyway. Sex and drugs. and rock and roll.
This is the sum total of all that Paul thinks is important about the topic “Life and Liberty” on his website:
Finally, candidates that really represent the party and no more pandering to the sane. We have a likely perv, a strict klan member, a drooler, fat bastard, a closet dancer, two that know that the other one is antichrist and that he associates personally with the devil, half that don’t believe in science, more than one batchit wackola, none are friends of george now, used to be their personal god, even though they know he is retarded and his dick runs things. sorry, had to take a breath.
There hasn’t been this much fun for some time. The other choices are almost as funny. two want endless war on terror, which only exists because we keep giving them money and weapons to kill our troops. The ones that talk about issues are derided as waxed fruit because you can’t talk about reality and show how unreal the competition is.
and this charade will hide the end of our nation as it is looted. enjoy
45 million women can’t be wrong.
not offended at all. questions always good.
i am rabidly pro-choice.
i am also rabidly anti-imperialistic.
i can see how thoughtful people with values similar to mine could have a hard time balancing those two positions…. it’s not clear to me that there is only one answer.
therefor i contend that a woman who has thought things through (where things are choice and imperialism) can be a paul supporter.
personally, i have a long list of things i don’t like about his economic policies that put me firmly against him… but i can see how some people would support him for his anti-imperialism, his pro-constitutional rights and his anti-drug war positions.
unlike the rest of the Rs, who i see has having no useful policy proposals. i’m glad paul is in the race and i hope he does well against the other Rs.
does that answer your questions? if not, please continue with more questions. thanks.
well that sounds like a plan!
*wink*
I agree with you that getting rid of drugs is a waste of time. Was recounting what the motivation of the anti-drug programs is.
Texbet, I’ll have to post a profile and e-mail address and stuff, ( to facilitate communication) but I’ll try to move into the new century. Tell your daughter she gives me hope for our youth.
The motivations of each can be determined with logic, reason and by educated guessing. Paul has documented his racist beliefs in writing. I agree with you that the Drug War (and other wars) maintain a strong racist undercurrent, even if racism is not a primary goal. I suppose that the drug war’s primary purpose is to prevent the wrong people from making money from drugs. All the right people can make all the money they want. They are the right people b/c they know the right people.
in my (limited) experience the motivations of politicians are never what they say they are. so, i think it is best, in general, to put aside consideration of motivations in a first order analysis and look only at actions.
and quite frankly, i’d rather have politicians do the right thing for the wrong reason than the wrong thing for the right reason.
Hasn’t changed a bit, since Reefer Madness spelled it out so clearly.
you serious?
i think most people don’t even know their own motivations very well.
who’s the fat bastard?
If you’re not willing to do what has to be done, we can count on another eight years of war. What’s more important, the lives saved, or a guilty conscience?
Sex? Drugs? Rock & Roll? Austin, February? Yee Haw!
strato, feel free to email me. texbetsy at g mail
Do they call his supporters “Paultards” everyplace?
no sex. i have teenagers attending.
i don’t understand why you think means don’t matter.
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But I don’t think the drug war is motivated primarily by racism,
Without racism, the drug war may never have got off the ground.
OK Selise. Try looking at it this way. Take Paul’s isolationist policy to the extreme & imagine what the U.S. would look like. Not pretty. But that’s what he would have.
All of these issues are situational IMO. I am not isolationist, as I think there are times when it makes sense to intervene. I now think those situations are a lot more limited than I thought seven years ago, but I would not want to have a rigid isolationist foreign policy any more than I would want to have a rigid policy on any subject.
i agree. but at the moment, if my only choices are non-intervention or imperialism. i’ll take non-intervention.
my choice would very likely be exactly the opposite in 1940.
so i do agree that it’s situational.
The crazed marijuana smoking negro was the theme that was used to outlaw hemp. It was an overtly racist campaign.
I agree Plovering. Motivated by rascism? Of course it is. Just look at the crack versus coke sentencing guidelines. Ghetto people get to do far more time than suburbanites. Jeebus K. on a stick who cares what came first the “pure” motivation to clean the world of drugs or the slimy motivation to jail brown and black people.
False choice. The U.S. IS imperialist. So the real choice is which candidate will handle it responsibly.
Going back to a previous thread about campaign songs, I’d vote for anyone with the nerve to put this on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7c2cHA5aNc
Rodrigo Y gabriella doing Metallica’s “Orion” in Flamenco
I think we can raise the level of discourse when the victory is won, but if we’re not willing to match the other side, we’re going to lose. We HAVE to get out of Iraq, and if we have to get our hands dirty to do that, I can sleep with that. If the republicans win the white house, we’re going to be in Iraq for as long as we’ve been in Korea. The waste will go on and on. US lives, Iraqi lives, the reputation of the US in the world, and yes, the money we’re pissing away.
I’m willing to compromise ethics for a greater good.
wow. you don’t think we could (or should) challenge our imperialism? that is my choice.
selise, eCAHNomics
You two are irritating the crap out of me.
What are your specific ideas? What do the Dems need to do in your opinion in order to fight dirtier.
why? not supposed to disagree and try to learn more from others here?
well, whatever your answer is, i’d rather have discussions with folks who want to have them… so i’ll catch you all later.
nite-all!
Why?
OK, marymccurnin, I’ll bring the Rock & Roll, you bring the other two! *g*
Good nite selise.
nite selise
nice to see you
good night sweet selise, you’ll sleep well because your conscience won’t be plaguing you
gotta run. nite. paul is funny, ain’t he?
Wow. 2nd amendment politics makes strange bedfellows.
Yep. Cause heaven knows the thing we need more of in NOLA is guns. Multiple shooting in the city last night, 2 dead, 4 injured. Just another day in the Big Easy.
Our version of Swiftboating, innuendo, lies, whatever. We have to win or the US will be destroyed and yes, the ends, in this case, justify the means.
night bfl
It sounds like the police were unlawfully rounding up black peoples’ guns. Then they had to show a receipt to get their guns back. That ain’t right.
Do you have any reason to think he will connect those dots? If anything, one would think it would be electorally safer to go that route in the Dem primary, and then tack to the center for the general. You seem to be implying the opposite.
Gotcha. I agree. Swiftboat the bastards hard, often and early. Lots of material available for half truths and innuendo.
I think you are right. So much harm was done in the name of security. But, on the other hand madmommy is right, New Orleans is very violent.
Many times when the end-justifies-the-means is used, there’s another way to get the “right” outcome without resorting to the kinds of tactics that make the end not worth having.
The ds have had plenty of upright options to avail themselves. They just haven’t used any of them.
There are no votes in the center. I learned that on C-SPAN today from Lakoff.
OTOH, there are enough true stories that need to be told. Rudy and the radios, Fred and the lobbying, Huckabee and the dog hanging kid, Romney and the hairpiece…
Poor in general, and Blacks as a subset, are disproportionately the victims of crime, and the perps too. NYC comstat program simply put the police where the crime was instead of in the neighborhoods where the taxpayers were.
Plz explain. Don’t think I’ve heard that one.
Huh?
My concern with this strategy is that with the media being what it is, the blowback against dems will be severe. I don’t think that any “swiftboating” of a Republican by a Democrat will be allowed to go unanswered. The other way round, is of course, SOP. I think the better option is to take the lie du jour, turn it right around and attack. Quickly, in sound bites and repeatedly. Remembering always that the attention span of the average American is the equivalent of a three year old’s.
I made that up.
Well, that settles that.
Ken-doll wears a hair hat? Who could have imagined?
Advicve to Phoenix Woman:
NYTimes had to retract that nonsense because it is simply not true.
There is no evidence to suggest Ron Paul is a racist.
It is the most absuurd accusation anyone could make.
Having said that, you’d better remove the repeat of the libel before the campaign sees it and sues you.
Same to those of you who have said you think there is indication that RP is a racist.
You WILL be reported.
I made that up, you know - like Karl Rove makes shit up. See how quick it caught on? /s
And your point was?
Ruh, roh!
Would you care to specify those methods? For the past eight years, little has worked. The dems have LAID DOWN LIKE DOGS. In the past eight years, only Chris Dodd, recently, on the FISA bill, stood up and said “ENOUGH!”
This is a fight to keep our nation from becoming Stalinist Russia. THe fight is THAT desperate. We MUST win, by any means necessary. Hit first, hit hard, hit often. If the media blows back, hit them too, describing as the Bush lapdogs they are.
Not too long ago, I was watching Tweety one day and some progressive guest called him a right wing tool. He got all upset and the guest backpedaled. I was aghast. He IS a right-wing tool, and only calling him on it, on the air, with vigor and yes, aggressiveness, will get him to think about that which he does with seeming impunity. If the impunity goes away, perhaps he’ll quit being such a right wing tool.
If we follow the lead of Pelosi and Reid, we will lose. This is a streetfight, and the sooner we collectively quit being a bunch of Birkenstock-wearing sissies and get into the fight, the sooner we might have a chance to win.
new thread
It’s a live one!
NHGOP - you’ll be happier here, they all think just like you.
Well, probably not. He just hasn’t realized it, yet.
You touched Romney’s hair? What were you doing touching Romney’s hair? Was it the hair on his head?
Is that the Charlie Daniels? The Devil Went Down to Georgia Charlie Daniels?
Yes that’s him. You didn’t know he was a big ol’ dumbass?
Nope. That’s pretty damn funny.
Funny, kinda like a broken-glass enema. The grammar and spelling there is a paen to home-schooling everywhere.
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Again for me a day late reading and responding. Anybody notice the hypocrisy of Paul when Timmah brought up that Pauls’ Texas district receives plenty of pork due to the earmarks that Paul puts into the budget bill and then votes against? According to Russert Paul put in 62 earmarks, knowing full well they would pass and he would get the credit for it and then voting against it so that he can claim that he is for fiscal responsibility when in truth he is just a political hack like all the rest of them. MTP was the first time I saw him in an extended interview and I didn’t think he did a very good job on some fairly easy albiet probing questions. Look at his voting record and he supported Bush 75%. We can’t stand another Republican if we want our nation to survive.
“Without racism, the drug war may never have got off the ground.”
There have been plenty of regimes that treat drug offenders far worse than we do (going so far as automatic execution for a first-time, non-violent offense) that can’t really be accused of having a racial motivation behind it.
Drugs tend to make for less productive, more accident-prone workers. Your ability to work and produce is very important to most governments. Even without racism there’s a strong motivation there.
Paul’s comments on the Civil War are just so indicative as to how bat-sh*t Mad Hatter crazy he and his followers are.
They can’t show one bit of evidence that the South ever offered to ban slavery if they were offered compensation for their slaves. In fact, they were committed to the expansion of slavery into territories where it was banned…when they were unsuccessful in doing so they seceded. Lincoln had, to that point, assured the South that he would not accede to efforts by abolitionists to ban slavery. It was the Confederacy that initiated the war…firing on Fort Sumter, S. Carolina.
The Brits never compensated the French, Spanish or Brazilian slave ships they captured after they banned the slave trade. Slavery worldwide was almost in all cases simply outlawed…sometimes with a phased in period of enforcement. Compensation usually occurred only when there was no lawsagainst slavery and it was done, rather ineffectively, by private parties. While it resulted in the freeing of individuals, it usually resulted in the creation of a NEW increased market for slaves…with increased prices and more captures.
It makes about as much sense as paying ransom to kidnappers while making kidnapping legal! Nice use of libertarian economics without any consideration of the criminal aspects of denying people freedom.
Paul has not only presented a wing-nut revisionist version of history, he demonstrates just how irrational his thinking is about markets and human rights are.
And what’s really odd is that he seems to think that this would have a proper role of the Federal Government? Buying slaves and emancipating them? Where is THAT stated in the Constitution?
What about the slave-holding states compensating slaves for all the wealth created by their unpaid labor?
The straw poll rsults for the GOP on AOL reflect something different than what corporate America is broadcasting.