It appears Bill Shaheen’s attack on Barack Obama is hurting his wife’s Jeanne’s Senate chances. From the latest ARG poll:
Shaheen (D) 41
Sununu (R) 52
Undecided 7
The last Survey USA poll, taken in November, had Shaheen leading Sununu, 53% to 42%.
Though the singular poll hardly guarantees success for the one-term senator, it was a major bright spot after at least six months of abysmal poll numbers for Sununu. Even the American Research Group had Sununu trailing 28 points behind Shaheen in their June 2007 poll and behind by 5 points in September.
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Dick Bennett, president of American Research Group, told CQ Politics that he believes some poll respondents were influenced by the Shaheen flap because Democratic voters, especially those supporting Obama, may have negatively reacted to reminders that the Shaheen family has already signed on to Clinton’s campaign.
“Democrats get touchy during presidential contests,” Bennett said. “And if you look at the breakdown by party, it would be closer if Shaheen’s support among Democrats equaled Sununu’s support among Republicans.”
A whopping 93 percent of Republicans said they supported Sununu while 79 percent of Democrats pledged their vote for Shaheen.
Bennett warned both campaigns that if voters leave a side, one can’t be certain they’ll return.
Jeanne Shaheen is Chuck Schumer’s hand-picked candidate, and she certainly has name recognition in the state, but she’s hardly the most progressive candidate (the advantage on that front would definitely go to Jay Buckey).
It may be as Bennett says a temporary aberration, but if the moral factors of the situation weren’t enough, I think the political lesson here is also clear — some campaign tactics are simply best left to Republicans.
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Another Clinton Democrat. Just what NH needs.
So how predictable was this?
Shaheen’s a loser.
Hi Jane
first time since the change
hi hihi
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C-SPAN2 doing program on Hoover prez library. Just read hate letter sent to him as he was leaving WH. Gee, makes blogs look mild.
lol
shes not a great democrat anyhow
Dems aren’t even any good at being smarmy insidious assholes.
1.It may help those just learning the story to know what Mr. Shaheen did.
2. I thought the Clinton campaign was the tight controlled faultless one. Any background on how they let this one get away from them?
Shaheen was a stupid, stupid man when he pulled that stunt…
Billy Shaheen really shot his wife in the foot with this maneuver. She may end up wishing she had stayed at Harvard.
-G
emanuael does not qualify?
bah, need to get into reading mode again ;)
Hi Jane. We’re not surprised, are we?
He is a man among boys.
I like to think John Edwards have the DNC & Rahm in particular distracted and rattled.
Coupled with Schumer/DSCC’s interference in the Dem Primary here in Oregon (about $90k to one of the two progressive candidates, zip to the other), I’d have to say this is just more of the Schumer/Emanuel mentality leaking out of the Dem establishment’s ass. It’s kinda looking like a not-so-well-sealed diaper (or a ‘Depends’?).
This is the area where Democrats are weak: THEY DON’T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE THE FUTURE. They backfire on themselves all the time.
If the Democrats spent more time attacking the republic candidates (which is what 70% of Americans want to see because we are so sick of the whole party) and not each other, I think they would find strength from that and it would help Americans choose the CORRECT Democratic candidate to represent us. As of right now, the top 3 Democrats make me cringe…and yes…I’m including Edwards in this too. None of them are strong enough or creative enough to frame the debate against the repukes.
People who think they can mount a credible attack on Obama with phony references to Madrasa education or delusional references that imply trying drugs when he was essentially a kid are exponentially dumber than the electorate they perceive as stupid to target.
References to what LOL he wanted to do as a kindergarten child are equally stupid, unless, and I don’t rule it out, America is voting for candidates from the “dumber than a 5th grader show.”
Someone remind me. I think I remember that there was another, bluer, D who dropped out when Saheen entered? If that’s accurate, then did Bill Shaheen’s schenanigans lose that senate seat for the Ds?
I don’t think the DNC is particularly anti-Edwards and may in fact view him as a positive. Rahm, the DCCC and DSCC are another group. And Rahm and the DNC are not necessarily on the same page either.
Jib Jab Where Meaningful Political Commentary Lives
She was sliding before her huband’s remarks remarks. It’s all part of the Shrubco may not have been wrong campaign.
Rumblings have it that Schumer is also recruiting a DINO named Bruce Lunsford (Gives lots of money to Rs and lost badly to the new Governor of Kentucky in the D primary this past spring) to run against Mitch McConnell cuz he’s a millionaire crook. The preferred candidate is a retired Lt Col named Andrew Horne who actually IS a D.
1) Shaheen did an interview with reporters suggesting that Obama could run into problems in the General Election with his admitted experimentation with drugs in his youth.
2) One of the writers at TPM Cafe, IIRC, suggested that it was all quite deliberate, and that Shaheen was falling on his sword for Hillary in order that the story was planted in the minds of “the jury” (the voting electorate).
What Hillary’s advisors clearly didn’t understand is that this sort of criticism of candidates doesn’t go over well with voters. Okay to be critical of Obama’s platform, but personal issues are, apparently, off limits.
Steve Marchand, the mayor of Portsmouth I believe.
There is Jay Buckey, he’s pretty progressive and still in the race.
-G
Thanks dakine – I stand corrected and switching from coffee to decaf green tea.
I beg your pardon. Joe
i cap my coffee with green tea ;)
No problem. DNC is headed by Howard Dean and Rahm et al tried to take a lot of credit for things that Dean had instituted like the 50 state strategy. Folks elected through 50 state don’t owe their seats to Rahm so he no likey.
Happy New Year from a couple of Oklahoma liberals! lahoma and okk.
I want to report a Kool-Aid overdose.
-G
Tea is very important ya know!
bad formating :/
you should have added a spew alert on that one!
Not a Dem.
Bill Shaheen is a nasty piece of Demo-like Rovian work. On Ms. Shaheen? I have no comment. But I will say I don’t much care for Schumer, or for that matter, Obama either.
lol, i’m in no mode to read the rest but that is funny.
coffee!
Kudlow’s not even drinking the Kool-Aid. He’s snorting huge rails of Kool-Aid powder.
The Republicans have selected the best of the brew with Bush, Rudy, Mittie and Huck. And I am prepared to exclaim that my party is serving up the dregs with Obama and Hillary.
It was widely rumored that Kudlow was a blow addict.
Has my party and the Republican Party officially merged yet?
I just return from Nevada where I connected with my network of active Democrats who are spending serious time preparing for the primaries. In private conversation I learned more than when we met regarding logistics. Here is what I learned:
Some outstanding active women Democrats are heading Hillary’s campaign in northern Nevada. I’ve worked with these women before and they are smart, savvy and give 200%. They run a smart organization. The strategy is less obtrusive in people’s lives. I receive numerous phone calls from the Obama’s people (dedicated and committed) who border on annoying with too many phone calls. They sound desperately anxious. They started late in Nevada and trying to catch up but over-enthusiasm can have the opposite effect.
In summary, Hillary is running a smart, well organized campaign. She recruited some savvy women to carry it out.
When I read the negative comments about Hillary at FDL I didn’t get that in Nevada. There seems to be a disconnect. While Hillary is not my personal choice, I want to listen to those who support her so I understand why. I can’t dismiss them as being stupid or shallow or ignorant because they aren’t.
Such a thin line sometimes between addict and idiot.
I saw him one time proclaim that all Unemployment Compensation is is a “paid vacation” for folks not willing to work.
Obama or Hillary? The excitement is killing me.
The email that is sent when a user (me, second time, aargh) forgets their password has a typographical error. It says “not” instead of “note.”
Please not that usernames and passwords are case sensitive
lmao u funny man :)
Have a nice cuppa decaf tea. IMHO, if there is a horse race it is Edwards/Hill.
brutal, sounds busy
I’ve never heard of Kudlow before. Is he some sort of known pundit?
My take on HRC is that she triangulates. Understand please, I love trig. But Senator Clinton is practicing a new kinda math, and I just don’t get it. Well… maybe I do ‘get it’ in actuality. And therein lies the difficulty.
idk, sound worthy of a kick to the bullocks!
das boot!!!111
love this place
does it tolerate opposing views?
There is a silver lining to this Demo presidential race. That is, atleast we are not required to choose between Nancy, Harry and Hillary.
Yes, indeedy doody. He’s on CNBC now, but was a Reagan advisor & a Wall St. economist before that. I had the misfortune of being on Charlie Rose with him in summer 1992 discussing Clinton’s economic policy.
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Seeing David Schuster on that new set makes me wonder if he has finally replaced Tucker for good?
More like suck.
-G
omghi2u
y sure!
Of course. As long as we all agree.
-G
i disagree. no opposing viewpoints
As long as it’s neat. No food fights, and no hair pulling.
The column that was linked to read like a fifth-grader’s rendition of what his wingnut father talked about at dinner last night after his third glass of Dry Sack.
Does anyone know any polls of the race between Shaheen and Buckey?
Wow! Evocative image … I can see the silk smoking jacket, pipe and leather hassock…
Kudlow also had a well known Peruvian nose candy problem.
I didn’t read it, but your description sounds about right. It’s True Believer style.
What?
No food fights?
Who made that rule while I was gone?
Since he’s on TV daily, I think he’s in the “recovering” category. I think I heard that about him also.
Guess I’ll have to eat this raspberry cheesecake I was saving.
Schumer’s hand-picked candidate …
Kiss of death.
It is not rumored. It is indeed fact.
My ringing endorsement: If HRC is the nominee of my party I will vote for the Senator from NY. But only if I have to. And may I also urge a possible President Clinton to appoint Bill Shaheen as the Press Secretary.
It’s my understanding it came with the new digs. Except maybe during late night or late, late night. Some of us early birds still have to pick up overturned chairs in the morning… Well, at least don’t throw food that leaves stains. No grape juice, spaghetti sauce, and stuff like that… Okay?
‘K.
He is recovering. He’s another one of those free-market losers that want the government bailout when the times get tough. He’s smarmier than a used car salesman.
Well, let me throw some meat into the arena.
HRC vs. Huckabee
Yes, trying to start a fight.
What do they see in Clinton?
I’ve had personal experience. See my 61.
lol, it just sound like a machine devouring it’s prey ;)
what does anyone see in her?
Heh. There are bunches of us who positively DROOL at the possibility of having Huckabee to run against. Anyone, and I mean anyone, would wipe the floor with Huckabee. The only thing they’d have to do was quote him. He’s got the folksy thing down pat, but that’s not enough to get him elected President.
Of course I can only speak for myself. But on the issue you have raised, I think I can say, perhaps, or maybe.
Huck? Simply put… I am not ready for the rapture yet.
Further to the issue of HRC v. Huckabee. I’m not a Hillary supporter, but the cold hard fact of the matter is I will vote for whoever gets the Democratic nomination. I strongly and sincerely believe that the worst of our worst is better than the best of their best. Huckabee would just be fun to run against…
Shaheen means hawk in urdu
Shaheen means royal in persian
there you have it. he’s a hawkish sympathizer of the former Shah of Iran.
As a dyed in the wool FDR Demo type, I want to go on record as saying I fully support a Huck/Mittie ticket.
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C-SPAN2 has moved on to the Roosevelt Library after doing 2 hours on the Hoover library. Right now they are playing Roosevelt’s radio address to the country on the occassion of the policies instituted to counter the bank panic. I wish our preseidents would treat us as adults, as FDR did.
Kudlow is to business news what Tucker Carlson is to regular news. It’s a freak show. If I were serious about getting news about business I would not trust any source that hired Kudlow or people like him.
Well, the “news source” that got his name in the mix today was an editorial he penned for the Moonie Times so that pretty much says it all right there.
707! If they didn’t tear each other’s throats out over religious differences before the election…
Seems everyone here will vote for any Dem rather than any Repub.
That’s OK.
But is it thinking?
Apparently Shaheen’s are know for their explosive payloads.
The appear to misfire too.
-G
lahoma have discussed the issue of Tucker on more than one ocassion. And we have decided we would jointly like to give this person a hair cut. ;0)
Is there anyone else running who would be good for the country?
Compare and contrast Clarence Thomas and Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
-G
Bur then he wouldn’t look like a 12 year old preppie.
obviously that should read ‘lahoma and i…’
roflmao
I supported Edwards in 2004, and I support him again now. He grasps the fact that there are “2 Americas,” and he’s not afraid to say so. I find it telling that he’s consistently and persistently ignored by the MSM, unless they want to cackle about his hair. He scares “the powers that be,” and that’s a VERY good thing as far as I’m concerned.
As for Hillary, she is the candidate of party leaders. If she wins the nomination and the general election, she will disappoint a lot of those who voted for her because she further to the right than most Democrats and doesn’t represent the views of most Democrats or independents.
NA – It takes a lot for me to clear my head and listen since I am a Kucinich devotee. I’d like to mention he has about 14% of support. My concern is that people will want to go with a winner and sees casting a vote for K a throwaway so, they go with the heavy.
Now to your question, which I asked.
1. They don’t see any other candidate any better (all have pros and cons)
2. She is a strong leader and stands her ground
3. She’s been there and this is not time for novices (if Bush Administration had been any other this may not be a necessity but it is now)
4. She has the intelligence
5. She has the ability to convince
6. Would a man get as much criticism as she does?
7. They believe she will listen to the people (already proven by her accomplishments as Senator of NY)
8. She will refocus issues to the domestic front instead of the war front
9. She has not abused the Constitution
I am still gathering information. I don’t argue with them. I listen and dig deeper into their responses. They are really fed up with NeoCons, Right-wingers and the evangelical born-again religion-down-your-throat crowd. They don’t hear Hillary shoving and peddling Jesus.
Tucker is very unusual. He does seem to get younger with each day. ;0)
I haven’t seen the “Hillary Hunting Quail with Chelsey and Mom” commercial yet, but I’m sure it’s close.
i got a really rude bomb to drop on that one, but won’t. lol
TexBetsy at 100
HRC and Obama, IMO, would be more of the same.
I’m ready for a radical.
Given the choices available on both sides at this point, it is most definitely thinking to consider that any of the Dems running would be far superior to any of the Reps running.
Unless you are a member of the 28%er class of true believers then it might be reversed.
I have my own ranking of the Dem candidates but I’m pretty confident that I can pull the lever in November 2008 for any of them prior to pulling it for any of the Rs and not look back at all. Will I get the prefect President? No. But since that animal does not exist, I will vote for the choice available.
And fight to have more and better and more progressive elected officials in the House and Senate.
Go here and see why.
Hughs List of Bush Scandals.
Ohio voters get their revenge at last.
New thread: Ohio SoS to Cleveland: Ditch the Touch Screens
ART45, if you’re still around, please let me know of a Republican who’s running for President who’s not a proven liar/waffler/opportunist and who you think would be good for the country.
I get your point.
Ultimately, though, IMO, the best ideas win out in a free marketplace of ideas. RBG is not especially strong in terms of ideas, I think. Nor is Clarence Thomas. I wouldn’t hold either up as a model US Supreme Court Justice.
Well, they would if a) the media would fairly and honestly report them; and b) people weren’t too busy paying attention to Paris Hilton and her ilk. Someone up-thread said they wished the President/Congress would address us like adults. Well, maybe if we start behaving like adults that would be a start down that road.
There is no “free marketplace of ideas”; never has been, never will be. In the marketplace of ideas, the butcher always has his finger on the scale.
Marion,
I despise both parties.
I question whether a site like this serves any good purpose by supporting the notion that Dems are better than Repubs.
That’s all.
An attorney who litigated for years at a high level, was ACLU lead counsel, and taught at Yale versus a narcicisstic borderline personality who doesn’t have the balls to ever open his mouth at oral argument, is Scalia’s puppy, and would be more appropriately positioned driving an 18 wheeler for a living who couldn’t hack it at thousands of law firms.
Well, whether we “serve a good purpose” or not is moot. FDL is what it is, just as Jammies Media is what it is. On the whole, however, I think you will find more people here who are willing to say that people from their own side
suckneed to rethink their positions (you’ve heard us spanking our own this evening) than you will at oh, say, Jammies Media or Michelle Malkin’s place. We’re stuck with a 2-party system for the time being, and have to make the best of what we have. And that sometimes sucks.Oh, ouch! Gotta say I agree, but why hold back? Tell us what you really feel!
In Congress, Dems are equally hypocritical and despicable. They have done nothing about investigating US Attorneys used as political hit men (and women) and neither will Obstructionist Unitary Executive cheerleader Mike Material Witness Mukasey. The Dems have done nothing to put a dent in Bush’s ignoring democracy.
But a site like this espouses a philosophy and course of action that’s infinitely better than the Republicans. The candidates the Republicans are fielding are so out of touch with what needs to be done, they are making a farce out of the election.
I am no fan of Thomas’s politics or jurisprudence, but the “Scalia’s puppy” claim is factually false, as can be easily seen by looking at Thomas’s and Scalia’s votes. Bottom line: Thomas is no more likely to vote with Scalia than he is to vote with several other justices.
Sorry to have to ask, but I can’t find the link to the attack, to see what
Sheehan said about Obama. Help, please? :o)
Okay; got it. Thanks.
http://news.google.com/news/ur…..#038;cid=0
Schumer and Emanuel will see to it and have seen to it that a Progressive never gets into Congress.
So lets get the next best thing and help Obama take control of Congress and the Whitehouse- he’s not quite the Progressive I’d like, but he speaks to taking a personal hands on approach to solving the Mid-East crisis and wants nothing at all to do with the DLC.
Two key issues in stark contrast to the positions of Hillary, Schumer and Emanuel.
While it is often said that Thomas regularly votes against Scalia, in a number of key areas they vote alike. I find Thomas’ jurisprudence highly predicatable as well as Scalia’s, and in those key areas, the probability is high thatthey will be voting together.
SCOTUSblog has displayed numerous statistical analyses over the years as have a number of other sites
It will take me a little more time than I have now to lay my hands on several studies that underscore what I said, but I will try do it over the next few days and get them to you.
22 Criminal Cases
SCOTUSblog Agreement Stats for OT06 – Agreement in CRIMINAL/HABEAS Cases: Ideology 22 Criminal Cases OT06
5-4 Decisions in OT06: Membership & Left Right Voting Patterns
5-4 Decisions in OT06 Ranked by membership in 5-4 Majorities
5-4 Decisions in OT06 Ranked by Overall Left-Right Voting Patterns
The Real Judicial Activists by Thomas J. Miles and Cass R. Sunstein
If they’re punishing Shaheen by 10-20%, then how much might they punish Hillary in NH?
Dang, this hurts. We need every single senate seat we can get our hands on, Blue Dog or not.
Obama is a quantum improvement over what HRC would bring, and I don’t see how anyone could argue he’s not easily intellectually her match or better.
HRC may be real on a personal level, but her political persona is highly calculated and she is the epitome of the focus group driven politician.
As she closes in Iowa, her hollow homilies sound like an eighth grader writing his first history essay. Her health plan has few specifics, and does next to nothing to take care of the 48 million uninsured or to address many of the major headaches for physicians trying to get decent care to people.
Spot?
I don’t know what the big deal is. The press has been giving Obama a free pass since day one, and has been hitting HIllary with everything in its arsenal. You’ve got to be incredibly naive if you don’t think the Republicans are going to make the cocaine use a big issue in the general election. If the Republicans made such a big flap over a lapel pin, then what do you think they’ll do with the other issues the press has been glossing over—such as Obama not holding any foreign relations committee meetings since he’s been chairman, or his lame excuse for voting not to have a sexual assault victim’s name sealed, or his silly “present” votes. He’s gotten away with so much, and I can guarantee you, the Republicans won’t be as cordial as the MSM.
What chairman of where?
No one gives a shit about his present votes in the Illinois legislature–he has more ability in his little finger than anyone running except for Edwards.
And as for the sexual assault victim’s name being sealed–that wasn’t what he was voting on at all during the votes for against Illinois Senate Bill 485 that would have denied time off for good behavior for certain classes of sex crimes.
What was the amendment to which Obama objected? According to Illinois SB485, it adds the following criteria for denying time off:
[…] and (4) a person who is convicted of criminal sexual assault under paragraph (a)(3) of Section 12-13 of the Criminal Code of 1961, criminal sexual abuse, or aggravated criminal sexual abuse
Illinois SB485
Bush’s cocaine use then, must have fried his brain because he’s made a real shitstorm of the years in Washington.
The Republicans will get little milage out of Obama’s use of whatever over 20 years ago, because the candidates they are fielding are the most pathtetic field in two centuries.
I fully expect the Republicans to do what they’ve been doing–slinging mud over meaningless issues, championing a unitary executive, coverying up scandle after scandle with the help of a gutless Congress, and endless deaths in Iraq.
HRC doesn’t have any significant foreign relations experience, and obviously neither did the total fuckups Rice and Bush.
HRC never asked for security clearance to read the PDBs and participated in Clinton’s presidency the way you’d expect a wife with a Yale law degree to participate. That wasn’t “foreign policy experience.”
BTW–what foreign relations group is Obama chairman of?
He’s a junior member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, the Veterans Affairs Committee, and in 2005 and 2006, he served on the Environment and Public Works Committee.
The attack was so Republicanesque.
From my personal observation it appears that the Clinton camp is sooo GOP Lite.
It’s like the Clinton people don’t realize that the clock has moved forward.
The Iran vote was both foolish and tone deaf. Her foreign policy advisors supported the Iraq invasion and now support the “surge.” Her FP group is part of the old FP establishment that hasn’t figured out today’s world. These clowns still have a Cold war mentality and I doubt they are even remotely capable of changing.
The list goes on and some items are quite minor. I’ve always had this chilling feeling that a child brought up in an upper-middle class Republican household, president of the Wellesley College Republicans, etc. couldn’t be trusted to be an actual Democrat. A few months ago she was asked why she had become a Democrat. Her answer had no impact, no fervor, no identification of fundamental principles. The delivery of her answer was arkward at best. She’s hired DLC and GOP types for her campaign.
What the Clinton people are missing is that at this point in history an actual Democrat has to be offered to the American people. More importantly, if a Democrat does win the White House in 2008, that president must be an obvious Democrat and must take action ASAP to demonstrate that fact. The American people must be shown the stark difference between a Republican and a Democrat in ways that are easy to understand and something the media can neither ignore nor screw-up or obvious to the people in spite of the press.
If a Democrat wins the White House in 2008 it will yield an opportunity to contrast a real Democrat against the worst president in our history.
If a DLC type Democrat wins the White House far too many people will say – there’s not a nickel’s worth of difference. That state of affairs will make for no real resolutuion of our current political state and future struggles with Republicans will be very difficult.
I’m an Edwards supporter and feel he is the most progressive candidate of the lot with the best chance to win the general.
I’ve felt since the gains in the mid-terms that the press would do its best to elect a Republican president. I’ve seen much ongoing evidence that supports that fear.
Democrats simply can’t attack other Democrats with cheap Republican style trash.
I’m not surprised that the Clinton camp did just that.
“C-SPAN2 doing program on Hoover prez library. Just read hate letter sent to him as he was leaving WH. Gee, makes blogs look mild.
comment by eCAHNomics”
The passage of time usually sharpens our vision and allows a clearer view of past events. The passage of time also erodes the memory of the stark reality of a given moment. That erosion can mask the terrible pain of a bygone era.
Both my mother’s and father’s families were absolutely destroyed by the Depression. The totality of the destruction is almost impossible to understand at this point in time. Still less understood is the feeling of utter despair among so many people who were, as well, physically hungry. The irony of the despair is that so many people actually felt some measure of personal shame for a state of affairs COMPLETELY beyond their control. The wealthy, with whom Hoover associated, arrogantly made matters worse by taking advantage of people in desperate circumstances.
My mother had to leave school at 15 to find some way to bring a quarter or half dollar into the house. She never had a joyous teenage youth. She was one among millions.
There was no unemployment insurance, no jobs and no jobs in any foreseeable future. There was no welfare, no food stamps, no labor regulations. The lucky workers would line up in the morning outside a plant that had once employed them full time. They had become day workers and they were the lucky ones. A good employer would pay a lucky worker’s trolley fare so that he could come in on Sunday to work for no pay. And if he refused. He had no say, no power. He either donated a day or got nothing at all.
Thousands upon thousands of once proud Americans lived in makeshift shantys.
Passenger trains rolled from town to town EMPTY.
Desperate workers in Detroit. Otherwise proud, honest men stole food for their families. This was not isolated, it was widespread.
Local public servants like teachers and police officers often worked for periods without pay and the rest of the time at greatly reduced pay. Everyone who still had a job worked fewer hours and for reduced pay.
The crash hit in Hoover’s 8th month in office. Unemployment had been increasing sharply since before he entered office. In less than a year of the crash European markets collapsed and the entire economy was destroyed.
Hoover’s government did virtually nothing. The American people had been grievously impoverished and he did nothing. Stripped of dignity, pride and sustenance with no control of their lives and Hoover’s government did nothing.
Today we can’t possibly imagine what that period was like.
So today with most of the victims of the Hoover era no longer with us, no longer able to testify, C-Span2 tells us how HE suffered from nasty letters.
CRY ME A FUCKING RIVER.
What’s that we say, Jane? “More and better Democrats”.
’nuff said.
Jeez, you’d think that Obama’s crew would be a little more careful with their over-reaction so as to not hurt the other candidates. But, NOOooooOOOOO. It’s slash and burn all the way to the nomination, damn the Senate! Does this make any fricking sense? Is it a good idea to vote for a candidate who is careless about the effects of his campaigning on his own party? First the unions and now Shaheen.
Stoopid, stoopid, stoopid.