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	<title>Comments on: Pope Joins Secular Progressive Tree-Hugger Conspiracy</title>
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		<title>By: elmoticky</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164673</link>
		<dc:creator>elmoticky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blue Texan, now that you mention the 2000 year old age of&lt;br /&gt;
Li`l Jesse, can you please tell me how anyone knows the age&lt;br /&gt;
when he was born? I really want to know, but since some man&lt;br /&gt;
wrote that same message long long ago, I just can not ask&lt;br /&gt;
him…Oh, and I do not read the bible because this is where&lt;br /&gt;
that man wrote it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Texan, now that you mention the 2000 year old age of<br />
Li`l Jesse, can you please tell me how anyone knows the age<br />
when he was born? I really want to know, but since some man<br />
wrote that same message long long ago, I just can not ask<br />
him…Oh, and I do not read the bible because this is where<br />
that man wrote it.</p>
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		<title>By: lightning</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164640</link>
		<dc:creator>lightning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s not what Benny said.  It’s what a right-wing Website said he said.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20071208_xli-world-day-peace_en.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What he said was&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;– The Human Family, A Community of Peace, section 7&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s not saying that global warming isn’t real; he’s saying that we should not let ourselves get stampeded.  This is always good advice in any situation.  Saying that he doesn’t believe in global warming is what is now called “spin”.  When I was growing up in Kansas, we called it “lying”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clarity of expression does not seem to be a high Catholic priority.  Perhaps it reads better in Latin?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s not what Benny said.  It’s what a right-wing Website said he said.  <a href="http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20071208_xli-world-day-peace_en.html" rel="nofollow">What he said was</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.</p>
<p>– The Human Family, A Community of Peace, section 7</p>
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<p>He’s not saying that global warming isn’t real; he’s saying that we should not let ourselves get stampeded.  This is always good advice in any situation.  Saying that he doesn’t believe in global warming is what is now called “spin”.  When I was growing up in Kansas, we called it “lying”.</p>
<p>Clarity of expression does not seem to be a high Catholic priority.  Perhaps it reads better in Latin?</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164625</link>
		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;forget it.  i had an extra .&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;there i go being human again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget it.  i had an extra .</p>
<p>there i go being human again.</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164623</link>
		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;BT, if you’re still here, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;     bluetexanmailATgmailDOTcom.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BT, if you’re still here, </p>
<p>Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:</p>
<p>     bluetexanmailATgmailDOTcom.</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mele Kalikimaka, Ya’ll!  I hope Santa brought ya’ll bounty of goods…  If it was coal, I hope it was the highly compressed, translucent variety…!  *g*&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mele Kalikimaka, Ya’ll!  I hope Santa brought ya’ll bounty of goods…  If it was coal, I hope it was the highly compressed, translucent variety…!  *g*</p>
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		<title>By: eCAHNomics</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164617</link>
		<dc:creator>eCAHNomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hypocrisy is not unique to religion, it is just heavily concentrated there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypocrisy is not unique to religion, it is just heavily concentrated there.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164615</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Benny has some consistency problems — though he’s also supposedly the first pope to speak up for animal rights (wtf?). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But it would be great to quote the above article to Hannity and say, “Do you agree with the Pope? Yes or no? Yes or no?! Answer the question or I’ll cut your mike.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;TexBetsy, would love to. Email is bluetexanmailATgmailDOTcom.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Benny has some consistency problems — though he’s also supposedly the first pope to speak up for animal rights (wtf?). </p>
<p>But it would be great to quote the above article to Hannity and say, “Do you agree with the Pope? Yes or no? Yes or no?! Answer the question or I’ll cut your mike.”</p>
<p>TexBetsy, would love to. Email is bluetexanmailATgmailDOTcom.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is also this on the Pope’s criticism of global warming:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=501316&amp;in_page_id=1811&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....ge_id=1811&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is also this on the Pope’s criticism of global warming:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=501316&amp;in_page_id=1811" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag&#8230;..ge_id=1811</a></p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164613</link>
		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://theliberalslies.blogspot.com/2007/12/pope-benedict-call-global-warming-scare.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here ya go&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;POPE BENEDICT CALLS GLOBAL WARMING SCARE MONGERING … us in the fossil fuel community are preaching the same gospel as the Pope on this one: don’t worry! …
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now when I read that I was surely disappointed because the pope embraces evolution, and as myself, he does not find any contradiction, that evolution can easily be described as god’s tool for creation, just as the son might be gods’ tool when he created the light&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so finding out that he thought global warming was fear mongering was bothersome.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;now,&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://theliberalslies.blogspot.com/2007/12/pope-benedict-call-global-warming-scare.html" rel="nofollow">here ya go</a></p>
<blockquote><p>POPE BENEDICT CALLS GLOBAL WARMING SCARE MONGERING … us in the fossil fuel community are preaching the same gospel as the Pope on this one: don’t worry! …
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<p>now when I read that I was surely disappointed because the pope embraces evolution, and as myself, he does not find any contradiction, that evolution can easily be described as god’s tool for creation, just as the son might be gods’ tool when he created the light</p>
<p>so finding out that he thought global warming was fear mongering was bothersome.</p>
<p>now,</p>
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		<title>By: TexBetsy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/25/pope-joins-secular-progressive-tree-hugger-conspiracy/#comment-1164612</link>
		<dc:creator>TexBetsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Faith and Politics: Rules of the Game&lt;br /&gt;
via The Smirking Chimp - News And Commentary from the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy by Ira Chernus on 12/25/07&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the Republican CNN/YouTube debate in Iowa, Joseph from Dallas appeared on the screen, staring the candidates right in the eye. “How you answer this question will tell us everything we need to know about you,” he solemnly warned them. “Do you believe every word of this book? Specifically, this book that I am holding in my hand.” The book, of course, was the Bible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s wrong with this picture? Yes, it brings religion front and center into the political arena. But so did the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and hundreds of other ministers of the Gospel. Without them there could have been no civil rights movement. So I doubt we want to say that it’s always wrong to mix faith and politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faith and Politics: Rules of the Game<br />
via The Smirking Chimp &#8211; News And Commentary from the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy by Ira Chernus on 12/25/07</p>
<p>At the Republican CNN/YouTube debate in Iowa, Joseph from Dallas appeared on the screen, staring the candidates right in the eye. “How you answer this question will tell us everything we need to know about you,” he solemnly warned them. “Do you believe every word of this book? Specifically, this book that I am holding in my hand.” The book, of course, was the Bible.</p>
<p>What’s wrong with this picture? Yes, it brings religion front and center into the political arena. But so did the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and hundreds of other ministers of the Gospel. Without them there could have been no civil rights movement. So I doubt we want to say that it’s always wrong to mix faith and politics.</p>
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