After locking up the Minuteman vote, Huck is making a play for the "let’s start WWIII for Jesus" crowd with his visit to John Hagee’s megachurch.
Taking a break from the Iowa campaign trail, Huckabee delivered a Christmas season sermon at Cornerstone about Christ’s birth and embraced Hagee, calling him "one of the great Christian leaders of our nation."
For those who aren’t familiar with Hagee, he’s a world-class loon who wants to start a war against Iran that will bring about the Second Coming. There’s an excellent profile of him, and the dangerous nexus between radical Christians, the Israeli lobby, and the neoconservatives at Bill Moyers (you can watch the full show here).
JOHN HAGEE, SEPTEMBER 11, 2005: They [Iran] intend to bring that [nuclear] bomb online and if they use it, you think gas is high now. Life as we know it is going to change instantly and forever and I’m telling you, you need to get your life ready to meet the son of God in all his glory. It’s going to happen, it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen.
CONGREGATION: Clap, clap, clap!
JOHN HAGEE: There are going to be people in this tribulation period who do not take
BILL MOYERS: There will be plenty of bloodshed.
JOHN HAGEE: They will have their heads cut off.
BILL MOYERS: But get ready — it’s coming.
JOHN HAGEE: We are this close to the rapture of the church of Jesus Christ.
Hagee is also supposedly anti-Catholic, though I tend to be skeptical of anything Bill Donohue says. At any rate, it’d be nice if someone in the press would ask Huckabee what he thinks about Hagee’s insane views, but I won’t hold my breath.
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Let Us Prey.
Yo Blue Texan!
Hagee-ogre-fee (fi, fo, fum. I smell the blood of an English mad man)
oops;
EngishAnybody see Joel Osteen on “60 Minutes” last night? Cat comes off as the soul of reason adn amicability next to these other drooling fundie clowns.
Everyone should check that Moyers special out. It’s chilling.
adnandArrrgghhh!!! Missing the Edit function.
I don’t know, the press seem to have been dispatched by the corporate wing of the GOP to ask uncomfortable questions of both Huckabee and Paul, so I think the chances that someone will pose such a question are pretty good. Look at the Paul Wehner editorial in the Post this morning. The GOP is suddenly rather horrified at all these crazy fundamentalist loons who might want to sit in the driver’s seat.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02071.html
I have every intention to go see him in person next summer. I’m going to Netroots Nation in Austin, then will take a jaunt over to Houston to visit my good friend there. Frankly, Osteen makes my teeth grind, but gotta see it in the flesh.
Is it online?
Good point, Jane.
why aren’t they horrified at what’s in the driver’s seat now?
Jane @ 8:
By all means let’s let the Repugs cannibalize thmselves…
If the corporate folks had been paying attention, this would not have surprised them in the least.
This Holy Wingnut takeover of the GOP nationally is exactly what has happened to the Kansas state GOP over the last ten years, and the results were things like the KS state board of education introducing Intelligent Design and downplaying evolution, a witch hunt aimed at almost every OB-GYN and pregnancy counseling organization to make sure none of them are doing abortions, wingnuttery around Global Warming (TheoCon version of anti-GW science: “God would never let that happen, so why worry about it?”), etc.
KS Gov Kathleen Sebelius has been tireless in telling GOP moderates that if they want a party with a proper view of the rule of law, respect for personal dignity and privacy, and a fact-based view of the world (especially with regard to education), the Democratic party is the place to be — and it’s been paying off for the KS Democratic party in spades. She’s recruited voters and candidates alike, pushing the Holy Wingnuts toward the margins. “Coopting the GOP, from border to border” could be her mantra — and by and large, she does it without selling out her democratic values.
The KS TheoCon political takeover is exactly why KS Senator Sam Brownback ran for president in the first place. He saw that it could work nationally, because of what he had seen take place back home in Kansas. Later on, he also saw that he wasn’t going to be the anointed candidate of the Holy Wingnuts, and dropped out of the race to bide his time. It wasn’t because he was wrong in his calculations about the GOP — simply about who the Holy Wingnuts would back.
…cannibalize themselves…
Yep, found it here.
Does the Huckster have some children or relatives that will join his war? The Holy Bush Family seems unwilling to step up for Bush’s war. Is that the trend among Republic leaders?
I’m watching it right now in another window. These people are crazy.
Huckabee has good communications skills for a preacher. Unfortunately, none of what he says translates into hving an ice-cube’s chance in hell at being in the general election.
His religiosity, and the fact that he’s had a transient surge in the polls is a great index as to how inept the evangelical and superficial religious base of the Right wing is, and how desparate they are.
It’s one reason why this appeared in WaPo yesterday:
Get Ready for a Democratic Era
He’s entertaining for some blogers, I suspect, and his great job at loosing weight and getting himself into exercise mode has improved his health a quantum leap and is one of his best accomplishments.
While there will be a Democratic president, despite the best efforts of Gillespie and Rove, it is tragic that the inept Democrats in Congress like Reyes, Jello Jay, Pelosi, and Reid and the rest of the lame spineless Democratic Voters for Bush in Congress have worked so hard to accomplish the Bush agenda including wiretapping immunity and the rest of the Frankenstein that is in fact, the non-immunity total shit that is in S. 2248.
Get ready for some real government watching your every move soon, with this little known monstrosity ready to resurrect Hoover’s attempt to throw 12000 people in prison. This hasn’t made it onto Chris Dodd or the EFF’s radar yet:
FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics:
“Irsael is the only country that God ever established.”
- Hageeista
Get ready for some real government watching your every move soon, with this little known monstrosity ready to resurrect Hoover’s attempt to throw 12000 people in prison. This hasn’t made it onto Chris Dodd or the EFF’s radar yet:
FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics:
________
TIA Lives on.
So…I guess the IRS will be investigating this mega-church of Hagee’s any day now? Wait, I forgot, they only go after churches who dare to mention that perhaps this war on terra is a scam.
PetePierce and BobbyG
it’s not just the Feds
Green Bay fingerprinting people at traffic stops!
BTW- the Deputy Director of National Intelligence recently said that Americans have to give up the notion of anonymity. This tech surveillance idea is meant to get around the overtly Nazi “Show Me Your Papez, Herr Citizen” alternative.
Merry Christmas to all the Firepups.
An especially Merry Christmas to our Moderators.
Busted
I like what Frank Rich said about Huckabee yesterday:
My bold.
Fuck fingerprints. Next, it’ll be a saliva swab sample for DNA. You just watch.
I “ran” into his brother a few years ago after not seeing him for a while. Ask how things were: “I quit medicine and moved to Houston to help with the “family business”. It is a very profitable “family business”.
BobbyG @ 20:
And we know why, right? Only because it will wiped out in Armageddon.
… I rarely weigh in during daylight but I have to admit serious reservations about staying in this country if Huckabee is elected president. Earlier this year I ran down the list of candidates and their chances after looking at their astrological charts. some of you know I am an astrologer and play around with it on late night so as not to offend daytime commenters.
Huckabee’s chart is excellantly set for taking a sweep. I said it back then and again I say it. At the time I first looked at his chart there was little chance for him. Now that has changed and exactly what his chart says is coming true. All I can say is republicans have a chance again with him particularly running against a woman or a man of color. Many people including so called liberals could not stomach either.
We need Howard Dean to lead us through this quagmire, we have a serious problem here.
There’s a lovely bit of news for Christmas Eve! Huck is the emptiest of suits, and could end up as the nominee or number two on the ticket. Scary.
Doesn’t Osteen preach that if you live a good life and praise the Lord enough, the Lord will shine His light upon you and you will be prosperous? If so, I’m not very comfortable with the corallary: If you’re not prosperous, it must be that you don’t believe enough, you’re not good enough, and you’re not living a good life.
“Israel is the only country that God ever established.”
- Hageeista
Didn’t the Sun God start Japan? Mitt was there with his great grandfather X 35 generations – at least in spirit, so we can ask him.
Well, I just watched the whole Moyers CUFI thing. So much arrested intellectual development, so little time.
Huckabee represents a huge threat to the traditional Republican party. “Anti-elitism” has been a theme for the right wing radio thugs…the pointy headed liberal elite, the educated elite etc. If the “Huckabee’s can turn that resentment against the “Money elite”, then watch out.
Yeah, his schtick is equal parts Dr. Phil and Prosperity Theology. The latter is undeniably working just fine for him and his “family business.”
And now something about the only religious figure I care for –
Let’s Have a Mae West Christmas!
The Mittster and the Ghoul have outspent Paul and the Huckster in Alaska by far. The Paulbots have a big Libertarian base from which to work. They’re hanging Ron Paul signs from freeway overpasses, covering up the V = 911 graffiti.
Thanks for the link Bobby G. I’ve collected a lot of programs, and of course since they’re “secret” in Repug Redacto Governemnt it’s hard to keep track of all the concommitant “1984 is US in the U.S. and We Be 1984″ programs being launched wastefully. I’m going to dig up some of the threads Jane, Christy and LHP have done on these type of initiatives and make a list.
It’s tragicomic that the FBI whose Director, Mueller, is a home computer amateur geek whose wife has to tear him away from the computer has had two failed new computer revamps in the neighborhood of 200 million for the FBI, none that will ever see the light of day, and they are going to spend billions on this.
Wait until John and Jane Doe get rousted in the early AM and arrested and rendered to a prison in Transylvania.
The No Fly list at last count was pushing 800,000 and almost 100% of them are average citizens.
I know that soon as a country we can achieve the goal of putting every damn person on the block into a BOP cube. We have a dumb enough Congress to achieve this. I wonder if the Congress will try to exempt themselves from mandatory prison.
Today we have 1/31 in a prison setting, and the number is higher if we include the surrealistic so-called “supervised release” run by totally dysfunctional and predominantly mentally ill probation officers that are a showcase for severe DSMIV malfunction.
Mitt would disagree
LDS.org
Son of a preacher man!
This “Enemy of the State” / “Bourne Ultimatim” techno surveillance crap is unlikely to work for its putative purpose, but will come in handy for fucking with ordinary people.
I watched the 60 minutes piece on O’Steen last night, and his philosophy reminded me of Al Franken’s character “Stuart Smalley”–but he really has a money making machine, particularly his books so just when you think there is no more self help market out there, it prooves to be bottomless.
Daily Affirmation With Stuart Smalley
Which reminds me, Al Franken is a serious candidate for Senator running against Norm Coleman, and while MSM doesn’t take him seriously, anyone who listened to his show on Air America and heard the high caliber of guests and discussions that he had day in and day out will be in his camp. I hope the Firepups in that area, and others will help him get elected in 2008.
Al Franken for Senate
heh, like bofh
If Hagee was wrong about Iran, could it be possible he is wrong about other beliefs he holds dear?
What does this say about Huckabee’s judgment of character?
Amen Brother. I couldn’t agree more. It strikes me, that in no administration in history like this one, have we gotten closer to the paradigm shift of “fucking with ordinary people” and doing it more consistently than Shrubco and Ashcroft/Gonzales/Mukasey DOJ and McConnell DNI and Hayden CIA. All of these agencies are being run by the law firm of Cheney, Addington, Fielding, and Gillespie now who really pull the strings for them and delight in fucking with inept ill-equipped no background people like Sylvestre Reyes and Jello Jay Rockerfeller and “talke a good game and do nothing” Lahey and the rest of the dems on SJC.
Mukasey’s mission and that of his puppeteers in the WH is to lock in the Unitary Executive and turn this country into Cyberwatch Nation coining the new term “Cyberfucking with Ordinary People in Every Possible Erratic Way.”
Prince needs to write a new song “1984 Like It Ain’t Never Been Done before.
That is a great song, but Dusty’s hair is really out there. Osteen’s got some funny-looking hair, too.
yeah, but great voice
you don’t have to say you love her.
heh, heh!
Considering it was 1968, her hair is about average :)
Please god, free us from religion~!
Haven’t we suffered enough from religious fanatics?
My biggest pick with all of this shit has to do with the persistence of ERROR. As a statistician who trained in a forensic analytic environment and has done tons of large scale data mining, I can tell you that the probability of false positive error (mistakenly tagging the innocent) FAR outstrips the likelihood of every finding bad guys via mass surveillance. The Framers’ 4th Amendment notion of “probable cause” was rooted in much more than just abstract privacy fastidiousness.
So, why, would authority want to waste time fucking with the innocent?
As a coercive adjunct to the exercise of unfettered power.
You could tell, huh?
Huckabee/Paul 08. The gift that would give for generations.
You don’t have to say you love me
{swoon}
LOL!
Blue Texan said:
>>> More on Haggee and his rapturite crazies from Max Blumenthal < <<</p>
With your background, you are in the catbird’s seat to write a book on this. You have to be repulsed at what the No-Fly List has turned into.
Have you seen the books (I’m reading now)
A Nation of Secrets
and
No Place to Hide
They’re pretty good. They’d make some good choices for the FDL Book Salon. No doubt some scholarly books are being written by people with your type of training.
Never before has a President and Vice President deserved to be impeached more than these.
Yet our Speaker of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, is working behind the scenes with House Democrats, not to build a consensus for impeachment, but to do just the opposite: to keep others from succeeding in their effort to hold this president accountable by means of impeachment.
With the FISA bill still looming in the Senate, and a new war funding bill passed with no structure in place to Bring our Troops Home, we have to show the leaders of the House and Senate that this is still our country.
Please read the petition to replace Pelosi with a Democratic Representative who will bring impeachment proceedings to the floor. A Question of Privilege under House Rules IX can declare the Speaker seat vacant.
It can be done, it must be done. We have waited long enough.
http://www.petitiononline.com/…..ition.html
What’s loomin’ Willy are several treats in “We Be Watchin’ Yo Ass and Putting Yo Ass in Prison America More Better and More Faster too” brought to you by those twin Keystone Cop Bumblefucking Twins DOJ and its bastard stepchild agency the FB Dumb as a Rock I.”
Now that “the King and I” Bush and Mukasey are groovin’ with the law firm of Addington, Cheney (Honorary Lawyuh), Fielding, and Gillespie, Ltd. we can really get that Unitary Executive thang rollin’ and lock up every neighbor in the hood and then get ourselves a BOP cube too to celebrate the New Year. Ah know they done somepin if we kin jist watch ‘em all enuf ’cause as the Right Wing Bible preaches “Evra Mofo done got a soul full of evil and puppydogtails too.”
Here’s what you can relish in your stocking this Christmas Eve:
You want your wierd Uncle Fred or your ex mother-in-law in jail/ or maybe you have a boss that needs his ass fixed–get you a slick lawyuh and get in on the Whistleblower statute a large hospital in a large city just got nailed by the government with a name St. Joseph–jist ’cause they done be got confused–they said that the medicare rules mixed them all up and their doctors and caused them to overbill $26 million ’cause they couldn’t tell an inpatient from an outpatient. There is a state of the art hospital with uber smart docs that I want to go to even if they don’t know the difference between inpatients (they be the ones what be in the ’spital and outpatients–they be the ones not admitted) and bill outpatients as inpatients ’cause they get lots more jack.
Just think of the fun that will ensue when your gov’ment just gets their mojo into the new FBI Biometric:
Mukasey DOJ’s Bastard Stepchild Agency FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics
and you mentioned the FISA bill crankin’ up after the Iowa Caucases so all them candidates can be back in the Senate helpin’ Chris Dodd fight right before New Hampshire and South Carolina–but ah done keep hearin that
Our Democratic Majority Lader Ah’m Jist Wild About Harry tryin’ to slam dunk FISA Immunity through Dodd
Ah’d put more goodies in your stockin’ but it’s Christmas Eve and mah MSNBC has a crimapolloza goin’ down for the occayshun with non-stop
Why they Run
Crimes Caught on Tape
all night long
or MSN–Ain’t Crime a Friggin’ Orgasm and Jail It Be Better BC
Man if we kin jist hep our Democratic Majority Leader get the Telco/Comco Immunity through the rest of the hogass of an S. 2248 that basically can be summarized as “whatever whenever DOJ and DNI want to call it”, we can be off to a really rockin’ 2008 where we can put everyone’s ass in jail and revel in it.
Now that’s what I call a Secure Amerikuh ain’t it?
tax cuts $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$