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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162667</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 02:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul - “eliminate the income tax”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Timmeh - “How much would that cost?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Paul - ” I dunno, a lot?”
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Normally that would be a campaign enders, but this year the Republicans are so dysfunctional that it makes Paul look like the smart one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Ron Paul &#8211; “eliminate the income tax”</p>
<p>Timmeh &#8211; “How much would that cost?</p>
<p>Paul &#8211; ” I dunno, a lot?”
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<p>Normally that would be a campaign enders, but this year the Republicans are so dysfunctional that it makes Paul look like the smart one.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162366</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;did you have a good swim? that’s sounds lovely as i look out side my window and see a foot of snow. i am so not a  winter person.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol.</p>
<p>did you have a good swim? that’s sounds lovely as i look out side my window and see a foot of snow. i am so not a  winter person.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162340</link>
		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Back from my mile swim, ya’ll got it sorted out?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back from my mile swim, ya’ll got it sorted out?</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162337</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;christy - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;wasn’t complaining to you - appreciated the way you handled it and said so at the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i didn’t start the conversation in this thread, and i only jumped in when i thought you-all were talking past each other (and at that point there was already a new thread). my initial comment was meant to help, and i’m sorry if it didn’t.  i knew you had od’ed on the subject, which was why i tried to keep it to this thread. that didn’t work out so well either.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;it was the misquote (in the next thread) that irked me - and setting the record straight was the only reason i was still “talking about it.” but i did that and was done… until i saw your comment and thought perhaps your question shouldn’t go ignored.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>christy &#8211; </p>
<p>wasn’t complaining to you &#8211; appreciated the way you handled it and said so at the time.</p>
<p>i didn’t start the conversation in this thread, and i only jumped in when i thought you-all were talking past each other (and at that point there was already a new thread). my initial comment was meant to help, and i’m sorry if it didn’t.  i knew you had od’ed on the subject, which was why i tried to keep it to this thread. that didn’t work out so well either.</p>
<p>it was the misquote (in the next thread) that irked me &#8211; and setting the record straight was the only reason i was still “talking about it.” but i did that and was done… until i saw your comment and thought perhaps your question shouldn’t go ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162292</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;thanks for the response - was any reason/justification given (no matter how bogus)? do you have any more on the back story?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;seems like a potentially important story - ‘course we already know mpaa is full of shit… but still… wow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the response &#8211; was any reason/justification given (no matter how bogus)? do you have any more on the back story?</p>
<p>seems like a potentially important story &#8211; ‘course we already know mpaa is full of shit… but still… wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Ehrenstein47</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162262</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehrenstein47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The MPAA has banned the poster I linked from being used to adverise &lt;em&gt;Taxi to the Dark Side&lt;/em&gt;, a new documentary about our torture campaign in the Middle East. In effect this bans the film itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MPAA has banned the poster I linked from being used to adverise <em>Taxi to the Dark Side</em>, a new documentary about our torture campaign in the Middle East. In effect this bans the film itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162257</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;selise — For the record, &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-wes-clark/#comment-1160936&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here’s the exact quote&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Welcome General Clark.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Are you proud of bombing the Serbs, and if so, why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eCAHN did not say ENJOY — that was a misquote.  And that question, while deliberately provocative remained in the thread because it was based on a substantive issue.  The question that got removed was one which was not directed at Gen. Clark but was, instead, directed at the readers in the thread, and was removed because it was not on topic or substantive, but rather asking for a subjective running commentary on the problems that eCAHN saw with Gen. Clark’s policies.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/taking-the-hypocrisy-out-of-media-a-study-in-cheezy-whizzes/#comment-1161102&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See here&lt;/a&gt; for snippet of said comment.)  Substance yes — request for a dogpile while using insulting language, no.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think that ought to have been clear &lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-wes-clark/#comment-1160981&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;once Jane asked early on in the thread&lt;/a&gt; for people to stay on topic of the book.  What followed was a series of people either trying to pile on eCAHN to tell her to knock it off, or people having not seen the offending comment demanding to know what was said, and eCAHN then making a series of comments about being censored while refusing to go to the prior thread for clarification as I asked her to do numerous times.  And now here we are, still talking about it because….why exactly?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am off to clean my living room in advance of an invasion of holiday company and gift exchange.  Merry whatever to everyone…but I am well and truly done with this subject at this point.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>selise — For the record, <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-wes-clark/#comment-1160936" rel="nofollow">here’s the exact quote</a>:
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<p>Welcome General Clark.</p>
<p>Are you proud of bombing the Serbs, and if so, why?</p>
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<p>eCAHN did not say ENJOY — that was a misquote.  And that question, while deliberately provocative remained in the thread because it was based on a substantive issue.  The question that got removed was one which was not directed at Gen. Clark but was, instead, directed at the readers in the thread, and was removed because it was not on topic or substantive, but rather asking for a subjective running commentary on the problems that eCAHN saw with Gen. Clark’s policies.  (<a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/taking-the-hypocrisy-out-of-media-a-study-in-cheezy-whizzes/#comment-1161102" rel="nofollow">See here</a> for snippet of said comment.)  Substance yes — request for a dogpile while using insulting language, no.</p>
<p>I think that ought to have been clear <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/22/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-wes-clark/#comment-1160981" rel="nofollow">once Jane asked early on in the thread</a> for people to stay on topic of the book.  What followed was a series of people either trying to pile on eCAHN to tell her to knock it off, or people having not seen the offending comment demanding to know what was said, and eCAHN then making a series of comments about being censored while refusing to go to the prior thread for clarification as I asked her to do numerous times.  And now here we are, still talking about it because….why exactly?</p>
<p>I am off to clean my living room in advance of an invasion of holiday company and gift exchange.  Merry whatever to everyone…but I am well and truly done with this subject at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162205</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i meant that cinnamonape had misquoted ecahn, not that you had misquoted cinnamonape (i understand that you were just repeating what cinnamonape had written).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i meant that cinnamonape had misquoted ecahn, not that you had misquoted cinnamonape (i understand that you were just repeating what cinnamonape had written).</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162199</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Might I point out that Cinnamonape did not specify that anyone &lt;strong&gt;said&lt;/strong&gt; that.  It was, however, the exact quote that Cinnamonape put in his comment upstairs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I point out that Cinnamonape did not specify that anyone <strong>said</strong> that.  It was, however, the exact quote that Cinnamonape put in his comment upstairs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/23/sunday-talking-head-thread-83/#comment-1162184</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Never mind, I am just finishing reading some of the comments immediately following Raven’s #147, so I understand now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, I am just finishing reading some of the comments immediately following Raven’s #147, so I understand now.</p>
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