We have some Solstice traditions in my family that have little to do with a faith tradition and more to do with things that have happened over the years. These have accumulated into tradition not because of any particular belief in any particular supernatural being or divine offspring thereof; just because we do these things year after year, they’ve become important and meaningful.
I’m pretty sure that makes us some kind of pagans, but more on that in a moment.
The fiance and I were lucky enough to get in the mail from my mom last year the pink tinsel star that I, in my budding career as a impetuous and headstrong decorator at all of eight years old, demanded sit atop our family tree at the holiday season. According to my parents, there was much rushing about on the night-before-presents, to any number of stores, hoping to find the Pink Star I’d demanded. Nowadays, the Pink Star crowns our wee apartment-sized tree, whether the tree is white-flocked or pink-flocked — or not-flocked-at-all, as this year’s tree is.
I’m unsure I ever understood the significance of the Pink Star, and the reasons for it can’t be recalled. When asked, my mother simply says, "You wanted a Pink Star, and were quite insistent that nothing else would do — and that nothing else was required." So, nowadays we have a Pink Star but don’t really know the reason why.
Another non-faith-based belief in our house is our sense that there will be a Tree Waiting when we arrive at The Emerald Forest at Nineteenth Avenue and Sloat Boulevard, whenever that happens to be. Five years in a row now, we walk onto the Solstice tree lot — whether in early December because we’ve got parties planned and want the house decorated for them or just the week beforehand. And no matter what day in December we walk onto the tree lot, and no matter how many families are trudging up and down the rows looking for exactly the right tree — so many parameters: type, height, diameter, freshness, fullness, uprightness, color! — and no matter how many helpers try to engage us, we always find our Tree Waiting just for us right at the entrance.
We don’t know how that tree manages to get from wherever it’s been hiding in time for our arrival, or how that tree knows when we’re going to show up — since we get our tree at very different times in December. But, again, it’s a tradition that’s been reinforced by repetition and the strong belief that it’ll happen again each year. And it does.
Another family tradition is the one we have on the Solstice when my little brother calls every year. He lives even farther north than I do, way up in Vancouver British Columbia, where the days get very short very fast in December. But, without fail, he calls sometime during the day the solstice falls on, just to cheerily announce on the day winter officially begins, "Every day from now until June will be longer than today!" It takes a special kind of Solstice optimism, on the darkest day when winter begins, to see it as a road of continuous improvement, approaching ever-sunnier days, don’t you think?
And on the subject of optimistic interpretations of the Solstice — the moment when the sun is at its southernmost point and beginning to trek northward — I’d like to be sure you’re acquainted with the Newgrange Passage-Tomb in County Meath, Ireland. More than three thousand years before the birth of the lad whose birthday some folks celebrate day after tomorrow, some clever Northlanders arranged tons and tons of rock and earth into a configuration that reveals a narrow shaft of light only on the five days surrounding the Solstice. This huge tomb — thirty feet tall and 250 feet in diameter — was built a thousand years before Stonehenge and more than 500 years before the Giza Pyramids, both amazing engineering feats whose complete astrophysical or mystical purpose still eludes us today. While we may not know exactly the purpose of aligning so much stone and soil to create such a display on only five days of the year, we do now know that it is intentional.
And the amazing thing, to me, is that 2007 is only the fortieth anniversary of our having figured out the clock-calendar nature of Newgrange. This amazing structure was created by people who knew enough about the motion of the earth and our sun to devise a narrow shaft in the roof of the rock tomb, so that light only shines to its floor on five days every year — for seventeen minutes!. And this knowledge, that such a creation existed along with the knowledge to create it, was lost for more than five thousand years.
Modern humanity re-discovered the Solstice apparatus of Newgrange Tomb-Passage only two years before we landed one of us on the moon. Just imagine what other machines our forebears might have created that we have completely lost — and how many there may be yet to re-discover on our planet. Somehow, though, it’s very fitting to me that Newgrange was newly revealed to us before we set foot on another celestial body. These early humans devised their Solstice marker in a way that would later reveal itself to us — not written in fading ink on fragile parchment, not handed down from generation to generation in tales that might morph to be used to bulwark one political or religious empire, but built into earthworks and carved into tons of stone.
What amazing respect these early humans had for their planet, for its flinging beautifully through dark space, relating consequentially to its life-giving sun, that on this commemorated day would begin to spend more and more time with them daily as the earth slowly warmed. What astonishing belief humanity had then — that it was worthwhile building such an extraordinary timepiece to last for eons, thereby communicating to their descendants their intelligence and grasp of their world and the place it occupied in the cosmos. And what simple faith these people had then: that there would be people who would see what they had done and decode it, because the earth’s relationship to the sun was fixed and immutable enough to them to haul and carve and build and align.
Seems to me we ought to do a better job of ensuring the planet they treasured is preserved and protected — and that we ought to better manage those who do the earth and her inhabitants harm. I don’t expect my Solstice traditions — the Pink Star, the Waiting Tree, my brother’s Every-Day-Longer phone call — to persevere as long as the Newgrange Passage-Tomb.
It would be nice, though, if our planet would last at least as long as the Newgrange Passage-Tomb has, wouldn’t it?
We current earth-tenants need to acknowledge the optimism and forward-looking nature of our forebears and better steward the shared capsule we inherited, don’t you think? Hadn’t we better execute the living we do to at least ensure that there’s still a place for people to live and enjoy? Shouldn’t we treat more severely those whose activities harm our planet — and her beautiful inhabitants? Shouldn’t we deal more sternly with those who foul our common nest? Isn’t there a way to live more gently on this tiny globe of ours?
Don’t the constructors of Newgrange Passage-Tomb deserve at least that much respect from their inheritors — from us?
Let’s honor our ancestors by placing our planet’s future in the hands of those who treat her the best, shall we?
Happy Solstice, everyone!
(youtube of Straight No Chaser at Indiana University, h/t Peterr)



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Teddy!
Teddy!
Hi Ann! How is AZ tonite?
Hi Mr Teddy San Fran!
Hi Suzanne!
Is it cold in the redwoods this evening?
Hi Miss SK!
Teddy!
TSF, I understand that pagans have the best sex!
Thank doG I’m an agnostic.
yeap, warmer during the days (actually hit 50 today) but still down around 29 at night.
Happy Solstice!
Aloha CT!
Your 8:08 Solstice in area code 808 inspired this post, sir.
How are you?
MadDog, I’m not an atheist about sex; I think I’m rather pagan about it.
“sex”? I think I heard something about that.
BobbyG, how are you?
Teddy! Love the pink star, quite the insistent eight year old you were. And how cool that your parents ran all over town looking for the one thing you wanted!
Hey Teddy! As a practicing secularist, I find Christmas a wonderful excuse for sloth and gluttony. What better time to practice the seven deadly sins than the nominal birthday of the Redeemer?
That would be me, I believe.
I’m a sucker for great harmonies and great humor.
Teddy, hi! We’re good. Been a crazy fall. Hope you are well.
Seven Deadly Sins, One Convenient Location.
Las Vegas
(my town)
Happy Solstice to all,
OT from the NYT:
You could have knocked me over with a feather I was so surprised.
My parents would probably tell you that good parenting entails running all over town for whatever a first-born desires. I can’t say that this parenting behavior results in a well-rounded socially adjusted individual, but it makes for a perfectly satisfying childhood.
Dr Hillhouse has the CIA Contractor 12 Days of Christmas up over at her place, The Spy Who Billed Me.
And I really miss The Flirtations.
I just put that up on the news ticker, Hugh. thanks
Thank you, Peterr. We laugh whenever we play this in our house.
Refresh for your h/t, please….
Bad link, Suzanne. Try this one.
Ha! I can relate, though I am hoping for a reasonably well adjusted first born. The jury will be out for a while yet, though.
thanks, peterr, fixing my bad link now
Apparently in less frigid climes as many are… The Mayan and Egytians predate Newgrange, and, we’re only now delving into the intricacies of Chinese technology…
Nobody could have anticipated that BushCo could manage such an incredible fuckup.
And Rodriguez, CIA dude, will not go gently into that good night. All lawyered up and ready to talk in exchange for immunity. as Peterr posted earlier? that kinda made my day.
More skirmishes in the ongoing war on Christmas.
Revenge of the Kringles.
-G
Here too.
I had to play it about three or four times before I heard the whole thing. I’d be laughing too hard at one musical joke that I’d miss the next two.
For a moment, I thought you said The Flintstones.
Happy Solstice, Teddy!
TSF -
Thank you so much for sharing this lovely Solstice post….especially the Waiting Tree. May you always find your Tree.
Wonderful Solstice Teddy and Fiance!
No, not me — gotta find someone else for that h/t. I haven’t been around much lately, as this is kind of a busy time for me. *g*
Love the post, Teddy!
(And no, those two statements are not mutually exclusive.)
We spent this Eve-Eve at Union Square propitiating the Goddesses of Commerce and Consumption, along with many other lookie-loos. I believe last nite’s EyeWitlessNews anchor who told us the season looks “dismal” for retailers: lots of shoppers, but no lines at the registers at all. I mean — walk up, present goods and credit card, retrieve credit card and bagged products, walk away: elapsed time, three-four minutes tops.
No waiting at the registers of the major department, book, gourmet, boutique, and undergarment emporia. None.
They are such dab hands at foreign policy after all.
So glad to hear you have heat for the holiday, m’lady Jane!
More proof the Islamo-fascsits are taking over the Dimmycrats.
Sal Mohammed, Democrat for President.
-G
As long as they only give him conditional immunity. He either delivers someone big or he goes down. Too many of these slippery rat bastards take their immunity and do not really deliver (like Ollie the Traitor North).
So far so good! And thank you for your kind words, Waccamaw. Happy Solstice to you.
And to you from us, dear Siun!
Teddy SF we drove past a mall twice today and there was not a lot of traffic and there were plenty of parking spaces.
They are such dab hands at foreign policy after all.
But they are so great to have a beer with (/snark)
Cool, I can wish the Proprietrix, Mele Kalikimaka and Hauole Makahiki Hou!!!
did you hear the story of the Washington man who nailed Santa to a cross in his front yard as a protest?
Jane are you going to look up what he just said to you? Or just assume it’s good stuff?
I heard Bing Crosby singing that song today and thought of you :0)
Happy Solstice/Holidays to all and all be safe.
P.S. Suzanne, that flare-up of tuttleitis has abated some. Did you see my response in the last thread?
CT, whenever I hear this song, I somehow always think of you
Hi, everyone!
Felix, I did and I responded back :)
hey physio
Hey, I’m looking at a White Xmas, when the clouds part, I can see snow on top of Mauna Kea…! ;-)
Hi Prof. Do you teach physics?
707!
It isn’t all that difficult to discern the ‘nudge nudge, wink wink’ in your typing!!!:)
Looking at it in the distance and actually having to shovel the stuff out of your drive are two very different things, my friend! Sadly, I get to do neither :0(
Nope. Physiology: much more interesting!
Hi Prof!
I have also found the ultimate candidate to deal with the terrorist threat.
This guy makes Pudhoretz and Giuliani look like pikers.
Cort2008.
-G
Driving by with happy Solstice, Festivus, and Christmas wishes to everyone. Gotta work tomorrow — we doze, but never close. Good night!
Our family tradition when the girls were still girls was to drive around checking out the c-word lights in town while listening to (and loudly singing) the Alvin & The Chimpmonks cassette.
Just got done reading your great post! AZ is a little cold today.
Your post made me think of a few pieces of information that have come up lately. First, somewhere I read that the earth has been through about five rebirths since it’s origin according to Nostradamus. Second, I remember our geology teacher teaching us that the earth’s axis has actually reversed about five times (I figure coinciding with rebirths, since it had to be pretty dramatic and traumatic). Third, your ending reminds me of, well, to paraphrase: We have met the enemy, and the enemy is us. If we don’t start getting very serious very soon, I’m afraid another of my prof’s predictions will come true: that when Mother earth finally tires of our antics, she will shake us off like a dog shakes off fleas. Here’s hoping we get a lot smarter very fast.
They keep promising us one, but so far I am not seeing it, except on the mountains. All our old snow melted off this week. :(
What is physiology?
Happy ho ho ho, LL, and keep on keeping those 24/7 crews working public safety safe.
I almost got snowed in at the top of Haleakela a couple years ago. Someone else up there at the time turned to their traveling companion and said “For this we came to Maui? I could have stayed in Chicago and gotten covered with snow and ice!”
Tourists.
Teddy, thanks for all your good work. Happy Solstice. The solstice was an event that Pagans were already celebrating (the Yule with a Yule Tree in their homes) when Constantine and his Catholic minions decided that it would be an apt time to celebrate the birth of Christ even though Christ was born at a different time. Christianity was overlapped upon an existing celebratory period in order that it would gain acceptance at a time when Paganism was de rigueur.
Hi, TSF! I love San Francisco. What part of town do you live in?
((( Suz ))) Will do!
Ann, I have to wonder how prescient Walt Kelly was with his little fellah Pogo. We have met the enemy, and he is us.
I’m always skeptical of spooks. If he spills the bean great but he could try to say just enough to avoid prosecution and then lie or obfuscate about the rest.
Since he maintains he destroyed the tapes on his own, it is unclear if he will give up who (David Addington) gave him the green light to destroy the tapes. Also I am not sure he will tie the timing of their destruction to events in the Moussaoui trial.
I would also like to know which contractors (and their nationalities) were involved in the interrogations. A list of what techniques were used in the interrogations would be good too.
Hey all! Great post, TSF. Like CT sez, you might enjoy looking into the Maya calendar which tracks more celestial entities than you can shake a stick at over a span of hundreds of thousands of years… and ends (thereby ending all of History, say some) in just 5 years from now, on the Winter solistace, 2012 AD.
Super-minor-teeny thing: I think those pyramids may be at Giza, not Gaza. (Nor Ginza, for that matter.)
Hey Suz, remember we were talking about how to get media coverage?
What if we take a cue from Crucified Santa and instead of Santa we use the founding fathers who died for our civil liberties….or something. I know it sounds crackpot, but it might have potential.
I will never forget the solstice I took two very straight Japanese fellows way out into the the backwoods, off the grid, to a little cabin in the woods for an all womens solstice celebration. (we were the only men ever allowed, in the last 25 years). I didn’t explain everything in advance, how could I? But I guarantee you all they will never ever forget it.
It is the study of how your body works.
Of course, yes, but at least it doesn’t seem like a page out of the Gonzo playbook…that’s all. just a glimmer of hope. And there’s always the possibility he’s just shaking down the admin for shutup money.
Thank you, and fixed.
Scary about that 2012 thing. Do you suppose the GOP will blame Clinton?
That sounds like a lot of fun and a grand celebration.
In the final installment of Yes They Are Running for President.
Here’s Bill Gardner, the Sec. of State in NH registering a guy with a rubber boot on his head who goes by the name of Vermin Supreme.
-G
you thinking maybe along the lines of our Constitution nailed to a cross?
If NewDealFarmGirl were here she could translate that into Scandahovian for us, but I’m not sure we would want to go where that might lead.
Is it part of biology?
EW’s take on the immunity play is (I summarize): “Remember Monica Goodling, Lest We Forget That Special Manner of Fuckery.” Recommended reading.
Physiology is the study of how organisms function: molecules, cells, tissues, organs, and their interrelationships. It encompasses all of biology from a functional perspective.
It would lead to lutefisk.
Do. Not. Go. There.
Wishing everyone at the Lake a holiday filled with joy and love and peace. We will hope for a better year ahead.
If he’s the planned fall guy we can expect to hear the refrains about how the Democrats are attacking the first Latino to have ever reached that high in the CIA.
-g
Ingrates… ;-)
They will be going batshit insane in their attacks on Dems starting in January 2009–assuming a Dem wins the presidency–and never stopping. They will impugn our intelligence, patriotism, morality, and everything else under the sun. Did you expect something different?
It is spooky! considering they’ve tracked the heavens accurately for thousands of years…
Hey, We Live to Serve.
I suppose they will try to find some way to use the excuse that to the extent that the calendar fails to define days after 12/21/2012 (Hm, there’s an interesting date number), all manner of punishments, fines, regulations, time-outs, penalty periods, etc. that might have been applied to them, no longer obtain…
The founding fathers.
I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’d be a really screwed up thing to do (that’s why the media would be all over it). The point being to keep church out of state.
I feel really weird typing this out loud. It’s not cool to be a turkey so close to Christmas time.
PLEASE! We beseach you.
I had biology last year in 9th. Now taking physics and liking it a lot better, especially the labs. Chem is next, then an AP science, probably physics.
Since they own 90 percent of the airwaves and more, they will indeed commence democrat bashing asap.
we can table this until after christmas :) gives us time to think on it s’more.
epiphany. perfect.
(wiping brow and exhaling relief to be rescued by kind friend.)
God Bless Us All, Every One. Nite All. You are my only hope.
g’nite hackworth
Night Hackworth.
‘Pups, I need to run Mother Bear downtown to her club for overnight, and I will drop back in for late late nite — Suzanne, you have that covered, right? ;)
See you shortly….
So I finally finished Jack Goldsmith’s book The Terror Presidency last night. Has anybody else here read it?
Me?
I likes to burn whoever is Preznint in effigy. Drives my dog crazy!
If you like physics, you would probably like physiology. A lot of it involves the application of physical principles to biological systems.
Would I have to cut anything up?
I haven’t. What stood out for you?
I personally like the Chaos and String theories…
I have it covered teddy. Tonight’s Late Late Nite is in keeping with the holiday spirit.
OT, but I thought important and interesting. I am just now watching a news report of a large layoff of, in fact, a “closing the doors” of a rather large “Remax” office here in the Phoenix area. The agents were apparently caught totally off guard. They interviewed the (I’m assuming franchisee) owner of the office, and he said he was also caught off guard; he didn’t think the downturn was going to affect him this much.
ouch and double ouch right before the holidays.
It was sad to see them on the news in their jeans cleaning out their offices.
Not anything furry and cute. In my lab, we only study flies.
This Friday was the last day for thirteen branches of HSBC Fin. Corp… Only one office remains in the Isles
Just dropping in to thank everyone at Late Nite for enriching my mind and my heart in the last year, especially Suzanne who has been so kind and patient with me.
I wish you all the type of holiday season that will keep you smiling all through the year.
Love from
Persiflage
Well, first, I recommend reading it.
Couple things in his thought process and in his conclusion. He seems to be basically saying any Prez sitting in the chair from now on is going to have to radically overreact to the threat of non-state terrorism. Which I think is horseshit, for lots of reasons we could get into. And he also seems to say in his final chapter that it was just our bad luck that it was W who was sitting in the chair when 9/11 happened, in terms of the totally unnecessary damage that W’s inherent go-it-alone biases have since wrought, both world-relations-wise and US-citizen-suspicion-of-the-gov’t-wise — and all that’s on top of the extensive basic damage done by the overreactions. And I find that part a whole lot more plausible. Not that it tells the whole story by a long shot, especially the Team Dick influence part.
Also Goldsmith gets into the reasoning process of why extra-Constitutional Presidential powers are not (in his team’s view, not mine!) in conflict with the Constitutiion, with some choice quotes from the founders.
I’m heading out. Take care and happy holiday of your choice.
persi, hoping your holiday brings you the best the season has to offer
Hey Teddy!
I used to live on 12th and Balboa. Just a hop, skip and jump across the park
and a bit to the east from 19th and Sloat. I still miss it. Love your post.
g’nite dr (pause) dick.
Mary mc, i was at 8th between cabrillo and balboa in the mid 70’s.
Ha! I was on Parker Avenue up from Geary in the mid 70’s. About nine blocks from there.
Good evening dear friends.
Teddy, much as I tried, I could not find a Christmas tree cake with a pink star, but feel free to enjoy this. If I have time to play with photoshop tomorrow and pink it up, I will email it to you.
Night all.
-G
Also, Turkey launches second day of bombing raids into Iraq.
g’nite gregb aka gsd
tex, that cookie is too pretty to eat
Night Greg B
Suzanne it’s actually a cake.
My hubby and I lived in a breezy apartment on Lake Street on the west side of Park Presidio. Pretty cool. A lot of water under the bridge!
My daughter is working the elections as a poll worker at a church on Commonwealth fairly close to where y’all lived.
bye y’all. bedtime in 2 minutes.
I finally started my c-word shopping this afternoon and I bet I’m not the only one who is doing wrapping etc while dipping into the Lake tonight.
tex, thanks, i thought it was a cookie. still too pretty to eat
g’nite cassie
I used to take my daughter to a park with a lake really close to your apartment.
TexBetsy and Teddy
Here you go.
http://www.dahothouse.com/media/pink.jpg
Nite, Missie, give Aunt Petunia a peck on the cheek, too…
Thanks for the booknotes, hmmmm.
Those comments are interesting, given Goldsmith didn’t last a year in the position, yet is still asserting expansion of prez powers? sigh.
Suzanne, I will finish the wrapping in about half an hour when the snarky one starts snoring.
Perhaps Teddy’s pink star was a carry over from Lucky Charms.
It’s almost 10 o’clock, wonder where your Huckabee is ?
per San Antonio News-Express…
After the services, Huckabee moved on to a private fundraiser at the home of San Antonio physician and businessman James Leininger, a major Republican contributor and staunch supporter of school vouchers.
who is James Leininger?
From 1997 to March 2006, the Leiningers contributed or loaned nearly $10 million to candidates for state offices and to political action committees active at the state level.21 During the same period, the Leiningers contributed more than $1 million to campaigns and political committees at the federal level and in other states.22 Those vast sums of money went almost exclusively to Republicans and far-right political committees. Indeed, Dr. Leininger has been called the
“sugar daddy of the religious right” in Texas
G’night SnarKassandra. Ask more questions about physiology. I am happy to answer.
wow, mary, that is the perfect shade of pink. still, that cake is too pretty to eat.
Thanks Mary! How’d you do that?
Has she seen my cat that I lost in 1975? He is grey.
magic-pagan solstice kind.
Careful, that tends to deflate one’s fragile ego… *g* (The fact they snore…)
So I guess we have to save the top star for Teddy, eh? I’m starting at the bottom — gotta be chocolate!
If she wants me to stop telling people she snores, she’ll start keeping her futon mat where it belongs instead of dragging it into my room half the time!
That was certainly subtle… ;-)
LOL, no, but she’ll check around in February…
I see GG park has a “mountain lake park” near park presidio. Is that the one? we lived near the seacliff end (26th). Pretty heady stuff. the apt. was a total dump on the fourth floor (stairs only), no dishwasher, no laundry, and The windows didn’t close all the way, but the view of GG Bridge and Marin headlands made up for evvvvverything.
Oh boy, Hope you didn’t live near Chinatown…
Kung Pau Tabby
(don’t mean to perpetrate stereotypes, but I do have personal experience with this…)
Uh oh, no “cats, the other white meat” jokes. I like cats.
Black Dog, is a prized commodity here amidst the Filipinos…
Damn. I lost a gray cat near the corner of Golden Gate and Lyon in 1993ish.
teens don’t understand subtle. has something to do with the way the ears get disconnected from the brain around the 12th birthday.
bonkers, you gotta tell the story or we WILL think stereotypes are a-multiplyin’. do tell.
good evening, pups! Lovely post, teddy!
I shoveled, and shoveled, and then shoveled some more. When that was done i brushed snow off my car so i could get to the layer of ice that needed to be chipped off the windshield. Then i drove to the grocery store. Merry effin C-word!
But now i’m here, and wishing everyone a marvelous holiday season, of whatever persuasion you wish. I love Solstice celebrations.
but we do joke about the disappearance of ducks around here.
My original husband used to work at the VA near there. I would wait for him in the back parking lot and enjoy the view of the Marin Headlands and the GG Bridge. That view never got old.
merry solstice ndfg.
I agree, a 2X4 is much more effective in making your point…! *g*
ndfg!
and camels
I started snoring after we had kids…thinking it was the sleep deprivation from having infants…
Well, after a lot of searching, and thinking I was going to need surgery or a machine to sleep, which are not all that effective statistically, I stumbled upon this:
http://ijustwanttosleep.com
Absolute miracle worker! It’s just about muscle memory and the resting placement of your tongue. After a few weeks of tongue exercises, my better half was amazed and I started waking up with tons of energy, even with only a few hours of sleep. It’s the quality of the sleep sometimes as much as the quantity.
I have no connection with that company at all…just share my experience in hopes it can help others.
thanks bonkers.
Thanks bonkers. I’m going to take a look. I was just diagnosed with sleep apnea about a month ago…
But the camels keep reappearing.
gosh, no one has dugg teddy’s post
OMG! I have to tell Ron about this. I have been sleeping on the floor in the living room for five years cause he snores so loud. He is always tired.
Mary, my grandfather was in the army until he retired. He was born in western PA and his time at the Presidio convinced him to retire in the area. It’s one of the prettiest places to serve!
Wow, that hothouse! What can’t they do?
Thanks, Betsy and Mary, can’t wait to show that to Mother Bear in the morning….
i emailed this to the bride to be – her fiance snores so bad she ends up in the guest room many nights.
Mary, you should have Ron check in with a sleep doctor. Does he ever stop snoring? That could mean he has stopped breathing. The brain has to stay awake in order to tell the body, hey, start breathing again. That’s why a person can be so tired after sleeping so long.
If you google sleep disorders you can find lists of symptoms and stuff. Does he sleep on his back? You can pin a tennis ball in a sock on his back to keep him from sleeping on his back and having his tongue block his breathing.
A Chinese family in the neighborhood was busted for catching strays for food. Plus, I’ve spent time throughout Asia, and pretty much any part of any kind of animal is fair game if you’re so inclined. In a way, I do respect how the killing is done purely for living and how very little is wasted. Also, they’re not feeding into (no pun intended) the corporate meats industries, which are horrible for the environment, cruel, and extremely wasteful in terms of the remains.
Such an ugly topic for an American mindset, but I wish people would face these food production issues more.
I found this when I Dugg…
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/ap…..pivato.jpg
Also if copies of the tapes were made, and if they were distribute? Were they all returned? Did he destroy multiple copies?
I’m puzzled how all these lawyers both within and outside the CIA were able to pronounce whether the tapes were relevant or not to the 9/11 Commission and/or the Courts when they had not actually viewed them. How could they KNOW that the material contained wasn’t relevant? That’s why I suspect that they had to see them.
Or were the tapes sent OUTSIDE the country TO the US (for review by CIA officials and the WH) and THEN returned to Thailand? When were the tapes in the US? When were they sent back outside the country? Who SAW them in the US? Who ordered them returned? Was this a direct effort to avoid the Court’s order by holding the evidence abroad? Why weren’t they or copies kept in the United States but in the field where neither the CIA’s Division of Intelligence, the CIA’s psychologists and medical advisors, not the Division of Operations could examine them directly? This seems very odd that they entirely relied on transcripts and reports from a field interrogation.
Who precisely ordered the tapes to be made, and who did the recording? Why? Were CIA officials involved? Who was supposed to view them if they were for “medical purposes”? Where they designed to provide evidence FOR criticism about the treatment of the detainees? If so, isn’t that a confession that the tapes were INDEED EVIDENCE? EVIDENCE THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY DESTROYED?
Lot’s of questions. But I would have a pretty large list of CIA people and others that I’d like to interview about their knowledge of these tapes…from CIA Doctors and Psychologists, to the Videographers, to Counselors, to the Interrogation and custodial teams. I wouldn’t give Rodriguez immunity unless he affirmed that he would provide evidence that his actions destroying the tapes were authorized by his superiors.
And the sweat glands get turned on.
Have you noticed that? ;)
He went to a sleep clinic and stayed overnight. They told him he didn’t have sleep apnea bad enough to do anything about it. But he is miserable half the time.
jeepers. what does that mean? do you remember his AHI? just curious if you don’t mind sharing. If you don’t want to say, I’ll understand.
noticed the smell of the SHOES far more. Yuck!
I’ll look into this. I am told I have sleep apnea and it’s caused some health problems. Thank you!
About this snoring thing….
I gotta tell ya, that tongue exercise program absolutely worked for me. You gotta follow the instructions exactly, since I noticed if I strayed a little the snoring would come back. In fact, my wife can tell if I get lax doing the exercises by if I snore any night…”You didn’t do the thing yesterdy, did you???” And she’s been right nearly 100% of the time.
It takes a few weeks to kick in, but it’s worth it! My wife thinks it could save many marriages. Good luck!
Hi MaryMcM, if you are still here while wrapping presents, go check apneasupport.org some time. you can get some feedback from other folks there. Or maybe this tongue exercise video will help, too.
Hope your hubby finds some relief soon!
More snoring…I was skeptical at first since it relies on getting you to breath through your nose mostly, and mine has been broken a couple of times and now crooked, so always had trouble with breathing through my nose. Lo and behold, by forcing it for a few weeks (seemed hopeless for a while) I could do it after all! Just have to train the brain to do it. Deep breathing exercises in conjunction with the tongue exercises seemed to help also.
Maybe Mitt should pick up on this meme? He could argue that he’s the SECOND Republican candidate of Mexican descent to run for President! George, his dad, was the first!
George Romney was born in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, in Chihuahua, Mexico. George Romney’s grandparents were polygamous Mormons who fled the US because the federal government was prosecuting polygamists. His maternal grandfather was Helaman Pratt, President of the Mexican mission in Mexico City before moving to Chihuahua State, and his uncle Rey Pratt also president of the Mexican mission, serving as president in exile during the Mexican Revolution into the 1930s. When the Mexican Revolution broke out in late 1910, Romney’s family went to Oakley, Idaho, and finally ending up in Salt Lake City, Utah. Apparently two generations of George Romney’s ancestors on both sides of the family were Mexican citizens, as was George Romney. But because both the Pratt and Romney branches fled Utah when it was becoming a territory they were “possibly” US Citizens. Lot’s of issues there as to whether the gave up their citizenship when they fled to avoid felonies, and whether they left before Utah became a State could also have been raised.
Mitt Romney, having been born in the United States, is clearly a Unted States citizen (although he could, theoretically be viewed as one of Ron Paul’s “Anchor Babies”).
Questions about Romney’s eligibility for the Presidency were raised about his status as a “natural-born citizen” because of his Mexican birth. Thus it’s pretty clear that Mitt Romney is of Mexican
From AOL news:
Is he running as America’s Pastor? Apparently.
He’s still claiming that the ad was done on the fly. cripes.
LOL!