Having Huckabee as a contender brings out all kinds of weird Southern tribal shit and dog whistle messaging. I’m not sure I understand all the Southern Baptist smoke signals, but I think I can translate this:
Mike Huckabee, taking questions from reporters after a town hall meeting here, responded to the torrent of criticism that Rush Limbaugh unleashed during his broadcast yesterday by turning the other cheek — and then heaping on the praise.
"I love Rush Limbaugh; I’ve always loved his show," Huckabee assured. "I think he’s been great for the conservative movement."
The former Arkansas governor conceded that he hadn’t sought Limbaugh out to set the record straight — but that he would like to.
"I don’t have his number," Huckabee explained. "If you have it, Jonathan, why don’t you give it to me. I’d love to talk to him."
"Maybe put it on the Web that if he’ll call me, I’d love to visit with him."
Stung by an anonymous Huckabee supporter’s comments to Marc Ambinder that derided the influential talker as taking his cues from the "D.C./Manhattan chattering class," Limbaugh used his Friday show to defend himself.
"I’m part of the Cape Girardeau-Middle America axis," Limbaugh said, alluding to his Missouri hometown.
He called the attacks "Clintonian" and accused Huckabee’s campaign of "trying to dumb down conservatism in order to get it to conform with his record."
You can conjure up those Missouri roots all you want, Rush, but you’ve spent too much time chomping Havana cigars on the golf course with the GOP elite to be considered one of the strawberry-pie-at-Shoney’s crowd.
Huck’s the real deal, and he just called you a fraud. Oh he sugar coated it, but he’s going after your base.
Then you called him a stupid hick. Very bad move. Southern inferiority complex, etc. etc.
I think you should take the gentleman up on his offer to come on your show.
Repeat after me: "I lahk him. He’s good people."
Now say it like you mean it, Rushbo. And smile.
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Wingnuts!
Oh we’re having some fun now!
You can conjure up those Missouri roots all you want, Rush, but you’ve spent too much time chomping Havana cigars on the golf course with the GOP elite to be considered one of the strawberry-pie-at-Shoney’s crowd.
Bless his heart…
He forgot to bless his heart!
Limbaugh has every reason to feel scared. The Huckster is an entirely different breed of wingnut.
what you said, jayt, bless yer heart!
goodness gracious.
I bet that Mike has never used either vicodin or one of those rod stiffening drugs. Real Christians don’t want to ease their pain or have sex often.
damn, where’s that Hucklebee thin skin when you need it?
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I’m curious how many Cape Girardeauians jet off to the Dominican with a suitcase full of V*agra. Rush has been hypnotized by the sound of his own voice, and he’s stepped in it quite nicely with this latest. Huckabee scares the bejeebers out of me, he’s just the type to which the non-thinkers will gravitate. I olny hope that this time the media pays a bit more attention to the many, many red flags this guy has waving in his past.
Huckster should make Limbaugh come to him. After all, Huck’s star is rising. I don’t know that Limbaugh’s is.
Real Christians don’t want to ease their pain or have sex often.
Is a gender qualification, and Rudy exception, needed here?
Huck is the clsoest thing the Republican Party has to a prayer in ‘08
And they are beginning to realize it.
The Dems may not be bringing accountability to DC Republicans, but the people will.
(This is in no way to be construed any endorsement of Huckbaby. IMO it is a strong indicator of the Republican Party that he probably is their best chance)
The rush doesn’t live there any more, nothing but FLA & drugs
Jo6pac
Eat their own, sounds good to me.
But is Ghouliani a “real Christian”?
Um, where in the world is Cape Girardeau?
I think you’re right. It’s cuz he looks like Nixon, who looks like a saint now thanks to dubya.
On the Missouri River north of St. Louis. Birthplace of S. Clemmens, I believe?
Huckabee will not be the candidate. He is too weird and dangerous to the repugs. IMHO McCain will be the one.
On the Mississippi, down near the southeast corner of MO
But is Ghouliani a “real Christian”?
hey – when you’ve got a point, you’ve got a point.
After all, Huck’s star is rising. I don’t know that Limbaugh’s is.
hmmm, how to make “black hole” into a totally gratuitous and unnecessary sexual joke?
Man, I got the wrong river and direction. Sheeeesh!
Aren’t you thinking of Hannibal? CG is southeast.
Yep. Waiting in the wings, and avoiding the current bloodbath.
Won’t that feel to Republicans like they are buying something from the remainder bin?
I think you’re right marymc. Huck’s too much a true believer, the money men are scared shitless of him. McCain could rise from the ashes, but everybody always forgets about Fred. He’s just been napping, conserving his energy, saving up his mojo for the big surge to the head of the pack.
Or not.
Waiting in the wings, avoiding the current bloodbath…
i hope Dodd is, too.
…and I thought I was being so smart. I think I’ll go hide under a rock now.
I’d hate to be Rush when the pyschopathic dog-killing Huckabee kid gets wind of this and comes calling.
Me, too. I’d love to see Dodd with some real money.
Hi Kathryn!
Fred. He’s just been napping, conserving his energy, saving up his mojo for the big surge
And rumor has it that Fred will actually be out and about for *both* days of said surge…
hey, Newton User! He’s got Tim Tagaris who is no slouch.
Kevin Drum:
His Rascal scooter is charged and ready to roll, baby!
Something else here. All too often, when pundits are criticizing what X said about Y, they describe it as “Clintonion.” Someone named Clinton apparently invented every dirty trick used in politics, and we all just know it. One wonders how they found the time.
Good evening dear friends.
Oh dear cbear – I must have missed that dog-killing Huckabee kid item. Still creeped out from the Romney family dog report of the long distance drive with their family pet subjected to the journey on the car roof. What is it with these Repukes and their cruelty to pooches – and all other creatures great and small.
The wingnuts are calling in the debts and the DC Repubs are sweating. It’s lovely to see.
good evening, sweet heart!
Because the Clintons are responsible for every bad thing that has ever happened since the beginning of time. Didn’t you get the memo?
BTW-aam I the only one just a little creeped out by the Ann Coulter ad at the top of the comments page?
His Rascal scooter is charged and ready to roll, baby!
lol. Wonder how much time it takes to re-charge one of those old things?
And the scooter will probably need some extra juice too.
I don’t know why Huckabee would make that comment. It’s one thing for him to be perceived as “one of you” to the fundies, but it’s quite another to tell the rest of the electorate, “yes, I’m one of them, and we’re really pissed obout how we’ve been treated.” Being a 35% President only works after you get elected.
But first he’s looking to get the nomination.
madmommy – i don’t see the ad – it’s where?
Maybe he got on “Pimp My Ride” and they juiced it up some-painted some flames on the side, put a big American flag on a long stick on the back.
My auntie had one, she would charge it overnight. She was hell on wheels with that thing, can’t count how many times she’d run over feet or topple displays at the grocery.
Hope it continues. It could easily rend the Rethug party into two divisions: The Wingnut American Taliban and The Creepy Neocons From Hell – neither with enough votes to form a viable opponent for the Democratic Corporatocracy Party.
then you missed out on all the Michael Vick endorsement jokes…
It may just be on IE, but it’s at the top, between the end of this post and the beginning of the comments. A narrow green bar with a yellow star and her picture.
Sorry I don’t have the link(s) handy, but one of Huck’s sons was busted killing a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp with another deviant. Of course, the requisite Rethug cover up was in place shortly thereafter.
I’d love to see video of the budding serial killer walking into Rush’s studio whistling the theme from “Deliverance”.
Tsk, Tsk, Rush is violating his hero’s 11th Amendment, thou shalt not speak evil of fellow Repugs… ;-)
Yeah, it’d be kinda like the Mr. Crantons and Beverly Hillbillies. great stuff.
…Commandment… *sigh*
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..nging-dog/
Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog
madmommy – i’ve seen ads there when i use firefox (which constantly crashes). At the mo, i’m on safari and no ad there. Fine by me, i don’t need to see more weirdness.
Freudian slip, perchance?
Mr. Dreisdale(R) vs. Jed Clampett(R)
Just think of it as Ann Coulter helping Jane to pay the bills.
So many were granted clemency by the Huckster, they’d show up for Rush rumble, maybe.
Molly Ivins used to say “you gotta dance with the one what brung you” and now they are stuck like glue and it’s going to be so much fun.
Changed to Firefox, it’s gone…much better now!
All that clemency is going to hurt Huckabee. Rethugs hate clemency.
Even better, the book being pushed will be sold for $0.49 soon. And the ad will still pay!
thanks for the correction. ugh, my aching head.
Lawyers stand up to Bush’s crimes
from The Nation:
We are lawyers in the United States of America. As such, we have all taken an oath obligating us to defend the Constitution and the rule of law…. We believe the Bush administration has committed numerous offenses against the Constitution and may have violated federal laws…. Moreover, the administration has blatantly defied congressional subpoenas, obstructing constitutional oversight …. Thus, we call on House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers and Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy to launch hearings into the possibility that crimes have been committed by this administration in violation of the Constitution…. We call for the investigations to go where they must, including into the offices of the President and the Vice President. — American Lawyers Defending the Constitution
Over one thousand lawyers – including former Governor Mario Cuomo and former Reagan administration official Bruce Fein – have signed onto the above statement demanding wide-ranging investigative hearings into unconstitutional and potentially criminal activity by the Bush administration.
» Read The Rest
Even if it was Clinton inspired.
Heh, actually I blame it on my legal research I was just doing at Thomas, about 18 USC 2441 (War Crimes)…
if Huck’s got street creed, then bring on the inter
necineNicene struggle.Huckabee kid- “Boy howdy Rushbo, you shore do haf a purty mouf”.
I know! Weird, huh? Click through the link on Jane’s post to the Atlantic and read the comments. if you dare. Goopers think Huck is a liberal.
punaise – new rock group – Nicene Creed?
OT
According to the Washington Post, “the Bush administration eliminated about $700 million a year in Medicaid reimbursements to schools, sidestepping an attempt by Congress to block such a move.”
It just struck me funny, it’s not likely anyone who reads this site is going to sign up to have AC in their in-box every day. Seems like some ads just fit a venue and some don’t. For example, you just don’t see ads for feminine products in Sports Illustrated. I do like the idea that Anne is benefiting the Lake though!
The Goopers think Huck is a liberal cuz he doesn’t totally subscribe to the “Club for Growth” rules as laid down by Norquist. He actually does see that government can be used to do good things for those less fortunate. That’s the one area where he can be competitive against a progressive.
Kinda doesn’t look good to me for Dems either, with so many Blue Dogs, DLCers, and then there’s us DFHs. Wonder how many parties we’ll end up with when the two current main parties split up?
Goopers think Huck is a liberal.
Carl Sagan had it right. There are “billions” of universes out there. (or was it galaxies)?
At any rate, I don’t wanna visit the one where Huckabee is considered a liberal…
Huck seems to have some liberal ideals. Unfortunately, he would put women back in the stone age. He would further undo the separation of Church and State. He’d roust everyone out of bed on Sunday Morn to get on the church bus. He might have to go after the Catholics. Worst of all, he’s a Republican.
I believe you are right. Huckabee is the most dangerous of the viable candidates. It’ll be Romney, or McCain by default. I don’t believe Rudy is viable due to his stupid campaign strategy.
We need to stop Rush. This has been going on long enough. Where is our Rush, the seducer? Why haven’t we found her/him?
Wonder how many parties we’ll end up with when the two current main parties split up?
Well, I’d be happy to host one hell of a party…
Jane, I love it when you have extra helpings of pie before posting..)
Southern Baptist smoke signals
strawberry-pie-at-Shoney’s crowd.
**snicker**
That might actually be a good thing in the long run. The two party system isn’t working so well.
Who is Lush Limpdick shillin for anyway? Obviously not Shucksabee. I’m sure he’s subtly talkin up one of the Repubes by now, where everything the candidate does is “brilliant” and “truly American.”
I’m guessing he’ll be on the Mittmo train like the majority of the other Big Media has been recently, although I could see him going McCain also.
As I noted over at Digbys the other day, disputes like this are easily resolved.
Lock the fat crazy fucks up in one of those KBR rape containers for a couple of days with no food—then throw in half a cheeseburger and see which one makes it out alive.
Could it be that Huckabee frags Limbaugh & The Wingnuts, letting McCain in the back door?
We can handle any and all of them, pups. They are not going to be MC Rove’s party after all the bloodletting is done.
Who ordered Oxy Limbaugh the Ass Cyst to pick a fight with Huckabee?
Not Romney due to secret underwear.
Who ordered Oxy Limbaugh the Ass Cyst to pick a fight with Huckabee?
ot
freakkin JUSTICE dept lol
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/hom…..23444.html
then throw in half a cheeseburger and see which one makes it out alive.
McCain won’t get it – bad arm.
Huckabee won’t take it – not Christian
Romney will swear he saw his dad eating it
Fred won’t wake up in time to even know there *was* a cheeseburger
Ghouli will get it – after all, it’s rightfully his, ’cause it’s a 9-11 burger, goddammit!
When you said it might be on IE, I went on IE to see if it was there, and it wasn’t. Somehow, it got removed.
Hi all
Im out of town , just reading around.
would one of you tell Christy that I saw a wonderful child’s guitar at TJMaxx. Very reasonable.
They’re gonna make Huck the VP, and the obedient religious right will fall in line, as usual–watch and see.
Gawd.
Hi Snowbird. Near any snow?
My comment disappeared…was it something I said?
And he’ll take it, needing a job and all.
Hi everyone :)
There some scary people doing scary things and the scale of it is beyond everything.
The fact that this is a mother of 4 and yet is heavily involved in this ‘program’, I just don’t get it..
Also, as a side-note,
‘Why the hell do ‘we’ have biometric data on 1 million+ Iraqis?’
Sorry needed to vent.:(
“A war fighter needs to know one of three things: Do I let him go? Keep him? Or shoot him on the spot?” Pentagon weapons designer Anh Duong told the Washington Post for a feature on how this 47-year-old former Vietnamese refugee and mother of four rose to become a top U.S. bomb-maker.
Though Duong is best known for designing high-explosives used to destroy hardened targets, she also supervised the Joint Expeditionary Forensics Facilities project, known as a “lab in a box” for analyzing biometric data, such as iris scans and fingerprints, that have been collected on more than one million Iraqis.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/121307.html
Atta girl, Jane. :o) Huck IS the real deal.
None of this wishy-washy stuff about the earth MAYBE being at least OVAL; that fucker is FLAT! And if you don’t get right with the southern Babtist Synod, your ass is going over the EDGE, dude! :o)
PLUS!: If Karl Rove gets to watch Hillary making HER acceptance speech while he grins like that possum eating shit out of a hairbrush, I promise I will be doing precisely the same, if Huck gets to make HIS at the gooper convention.
:o)
Well if huck’s going after Catholics it’s a good thing Blair is out as PM. He just converted.
Things seemed to go haywire suddenly. Then all was healed.
I think the ads rotate so that you get different ones if/when you refresh or leave and return.
Is it possible the repubs let all crazy comers join the primary so that McCain would look better by comparison?
Key words: “seems to”.
What liberal values? schools? he closed a whole bunch in AR. He doesn’t like to listen to opposing views. that’s very Bush-like. Victims don’t like his clemency deals? Too bad. Don’t get in the way of his compassion.
And he creeps me out.
Thanks Mary…for a minute there I flashed on Richard Pryor’s famous “Was It Something I Said?”.
Well, that’s a thought except remember how the room went dead silent during the first or second debate when McCain was lecturing against torture.
They like The Crazy.
remember – the Newt-tron is waiting in the wings, ready to ride to the rescue and other mixed metaphors.
I swear, this is what Driftglass has been talking about for years :o) :
The GOP has been sucking up to the bible zombies and staying in the hunt for political power by kissing fundie ass for how many elections now?
It’s been a hell of a hoedown, and now, by god, it’s time to pay the fiddler. :o)
You GO, Huck! ‘Murka NEEDS you. :o)
Huckabee wants Ten Commandments in the White House
he’s the gift that keeps on giving.
nah, i ain’t cine creed, jes’ Linkin’ Park ‘n’ 311
;}
Clinton was the best that Arkansas had to offer.
Huckabee-not so much.
The Huck and Chuck show
…Mike Huckabee canvasses a veterans’ nursing home in New Hampshire with action hero Chuck Norris
I don’t believe Rudy’s a viable candidate because he’s too corrupt, too egotistical, too phony, and just a terrible candidate. Romney’s just about as bad. Huck is unelectable because he’s a Fundie who doesn’t believe in evolution and thinks the earth is around 6,000 years old, and Indies will never let him get elected. Yep, that very well may leave McCain.
I just saw that post as I was catching up. Funny thing…I just bought a kiddie guitar at a small locally-owned toy store in town. It was hanging up right as you walked in. I find that in the long run, you actually save more buying from locally owned, smaller shops than by going to the WalMarts of the world. While prices of individual items can be lower, and even that’s not always true, you end up not buying nearly as much crap as you do at the big boxes, and the big boxes have notoriously high scanner errors which err on the higher side…”Always.” Often the selection is much better at the mom and pops as well, hence the guitar example. Plus, the economic effects on your community at large really make Buying Local the way to go.
Huckabee: Gitmo is too nice
Remember this one from Romney during an early GOP debate? Romney – Some people have said we out to close Guantanamo…my view is that we outta double Guantanamo… Download (549) | Play (562) Download (473) | Play (234) Mike Huckabee, that Christian leader who doesn’t see crosses, only bookshelves told CBS News that (h/t Charles):
That piece at Beliefnet about the Southern Baptist smoke signals nails it. Huckabee might want to be the great conservative religious savior of the GOP, but there are more than a few in the TheoCon movement who don’t trust him as conservative enough, and who have cast their support elsewhere.
Of course, Rush “talent on loan from God” Limbaugh doesn’t care about this at all. For Rush, it’s always about Rush. Always. Even on “open line Fridays.” God gets second billing from Rush — and always will.
Pardon the complete OT, but is anyone else having trouble with Google chat? Mine just crapped out
Limp Bawls, Novacula and the rest of the hit machine must fear the Huckster something fierce.. The neo con money boys knew they could pull the Bush puppet strings… but Huckabee can be bought for a lot less than Bushco and by the wrong people (only the fundies).. Ultimately they can’t trust him or trust who will be allowed to manipulate him. That’s my tin foil theory of the hour. Stay tuned. *s*
ok last Ot
just sad at the state of affairs
http://a.abcnews.com/images/GM…..221_ms.jpg
Brilliant… for the moment.
thinks the earth is around 6,000 years old…that very well may leave McCain.
who is also around 6,000 years old…
mommybrain my google chat is fine
i am texbetsy
Ross Douthat’s take on the Huck’s effect on the Thugs:
atlantic
texbetsy, my contact list won’t come up and it says experiencing tech diff. Tried reloading no dice. YooHoo Newtonusr (isn’t it nice to have tech savvy friends?)
There’s a lot of folks gunning for Huckabee — especially the corporateCons, who don’t trust anyone in the TheoCon end of the GOP to do the right thing with regard to all the financial problems these days (let alone take care of the money folks in the style to which they have become accustomed). The big “sub-prime” lending meltdown isn’t going to be solved by singing a few hymns.
And I sense that the feeling it mutual. The TheoCons are tired of getting the back seat from the Powers That Be in the GOP, and would love to be able to turn the tables on the Wall Street folks.
When the “Money Thugs” push back on the base and the economy goes into the tank, it will be a “Huckabee” who will be the face of the New American Populism.
Hi Mommybrain! Try rebooting MacBook…
If one can get past the sticky fingers, lies, hypocrisy, and simplicity of Huckabee.. he’s really a decent fellow.
Rush may well be from Missouri, but he was always from the moneyed elite:
Mommybrain, I am experiencing difficulties and I think it’s due to my very low connection speed this evening. (low modility?) *g*
Try a speed test. speakeasy.net has one.
I’m mostly concerned that Rush, by an excess of V*agra and Ox*c*t*n, doesn’t mistake his own you-know-what for a cigar and try to light it. Now wouldn’t that be a terrible shame.
I do not speak southern – In fact I do not understand southern.
But I begin to suspect that “bless your heart” means “exactly what kind of gormless idiot are you”.
Downstairs, Ian Welsh said, “Greenspan didn’t “let it happen”, he did everything he could to “make it happen”.
Ian’s statement absolutely boggles the mind.
Not to worry his you-know-what is more cigarette sized.
And the ignorance; don’t forget the ignorance!
No, this is a man who says the way to solve crime is to arm everyone. Inner city problem? Everyone should carry a gun. This guy is dangerous. Way too much to be worried about with him.
Well…that’s one way to interpret it ;)
Probably a Virginia Slim, huh.
Fern, you speak Southern JUST fine!
He should worry about being shot by the relatives of the woman who was murdered by the man he paroled.
fern, my mama taught me to say that if i don’t have anything nice to say
hey suzanne!
One of the ways that Rush works is balancing one idea off another. He balances 9/11 and all the terrible acts committed in war against some “physical discomfort” that we do when we waterboard. (BTW, “physical discomfort” is how he describes waterboarding.)
Rush’s support of torture and his ability to get supposedly good Christians to go along with his world view is incredibly damaging to the minds of Americas who listen to him. His views not only infect their minds, but they also infect the media, and the people on the left who are always on the defensive regarding his attacks.
How does Rush make torture acceptable? First he diminishes the horror of torture, “Frat party” or “underwear on the head” Note how he never talks of the people who were tortured to death in Abu Ghraib. Note how he never talked about the people raped in Abu Ghraib (those videos where never released to the public, but they exist). If he can’t turn torture into a joke, he sets up the terrible things that terrorists did to us as justification for this 35 seconds of “physical discomfort.”
Listen to this short Rush clip to see how he uses both these techniques with in 60 seconds. And at the end he throws in a slur about Democrats who “like to kill babies.”
I believe Rush is powerful in a special way. I have Christian relatives who quote him and use his talking points as pre-digested answers to real problems. Rush’s talking points allow them to be okay with their cruel, selfish, racist world view.
yup–Huckabee will go along cheap–his record as Governor show it was all about him always anyway (he’s really sorta a smiling, southern-fried Rudy in some ways, i think)
Oh, does he keep mistresses and cross-dress?
I *do* speak southern AND understand it….and, honey chil’, that’s one of the best definitions I’ve ever seen for BYH. *g*
i wouldn’t be at all surprised, bless his heart. ; >
Even Coulter’s getting into the I Hate Huckabee act: http://www.pamshouseblend.com/…..aryId=3977
C | N > K is a unix geek joke. Coffee Pipe through Nose onto Keyboard.
I like the south, and southerners, very gracious people. I lived in Old Raleigh (which was “Old” in a way we didn’t expect, understand, and grew to like).
The best advice I ever got as from my neighbor (Oh, we’re right pleasd you anit goddam yankees), was: “Don’t say anything bad about one southerner to another. We’re all related”.
I found this to be amazingly true: My children’s head teacher was Jessie Helm’s daughter.
There is an aphorism that applies to Southerners (not from the south, It’s actually from East Anglia in England)
To be said in a Norfolk acent
“Just because I talks slow, dosen’t mean I thinks slow”.
Huckabee is not at ALL dangerous. He’s a pure delight. :o)
We could do no better than have a social, cultural, and religious Torquemada uniting the 30 percent mouthbreathers (if that) in the general, and scaring the living shit out of everyone else, as he runs around the country explaining that women really SHOULD automatically defer to their husbands in all things.
This is not rocket science, guys. The closer ANY gooper moves toward the center; the more moderate he positions himself; the more dangerous he becomes. Huck’s little “bunker” comment notwithstanding, he’s straight out of old Salem, and ready to gin up a witch-hunt, or a new war, whichever comes first.
IF the repubs are stupid enough to nominate him, he will preside over a democratic tsunami. :o)
Of course, to varying degrees, so will any OTHER republican, as long as WE aren’t stupid enough to nominate Clinton.
Amberglow@145; Re: Coulter going off on Huckabee: It should be clear by now; the reason that so many of the high-priests and priestesses (anybody hear from Malkin yet? :o) )of the right are ragging-ass on pore ol’ Huck, is that they know he’ll cost them numerous percentage points in the general.
That is, again, unless we put up Clinton; in which case Huckabee (and the rest of the dwarves) will instantly achieve Lincolnesque stature, to a HELL of a lot of independents and conservative democrats.
BTW; good job, Phoenix, for posting that little Oxy-bio. :o)