Last week I tried to explain why Jane Harman’s "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007" is a profoundly bad idea, one likely to skew and misdirect the fight against genuine terrorism into an ideological witchhunt that poisons our constitutional rights.
What I neglected to mention, unfortunately, is that this Orwellian bill is very much on the verge of becoming reality. It has already passed the House by a 400-6 vote, and now sits before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs — chaired by that "Independent Democrat" Joe Lieberman.
I think we can all see where this is heading. Joe loves him those Muslim-bashers, and this bill is tailor-made for them.
Amy Goodman raised the red flag about this bill the other day, and a point raised on her program by Kamau Franklin of the Center for Constitutional Rights really got to the heart of the problem with this bill:
KAMAU FRANKLIN: I just wanted to add to the Rand comment, particularly with Brian Michael Jenkins, supposed terrorist expert who’s mainly known according to Rand as someone who helped the United States in counter-insurgency measures in Vietnam, which is one of his claims to fame. In addition to that, he wrote a book and in his own book, I just want to quote that says “in their international campaign, the Jihadist will seek common ground with leftist, anti-American and anti-globalization forces who will in turn seek radical Islam comrades against a mutual foe.” So I think what Jessica’s talking about, is that, the breadth of it is not focused in on supposed terrorists who are threatening the United States, but folks who have real concerns about where this country is heading, folks who express dissent in various different ways including demonstrations and marches. These are the folks who this bill potentially good target.
This is also a powerful indicator of just how open to abuse this legislation will be. The reality of the radical Islam, both in ideology and practice, is such that it’s clear that any alliances it forms in this are almost certainly going to be on the side of the extreme American right and not its left.
It’s more than just the common ground of radical fundamentalism they share. It’s also manifested in what has actually occurred: David Duke and other far-right figures appearing at Holocaust-denial conferences sponsored by radical Islamic fundamentalists; outreach efforts among the far right, such as the Aryan Nations’ Ministry of Islamic Liaison; the ongoing theoretical work of David Myatt, the British ex-neo-Nazi who converted to Islam and frequently expounds on building bridges between the two factions; the ongoing shared rhetoric of hate.
George Michael’s book The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extremist Right does a thorough job of examining and documenting this reality. Meanwhile, the evidence of any similar convergence of militant Islam and the antiglobalist left is very thin if not nonexistent.
But under the antiterrorism regime created by Harman’s bill, all you need is for an "expert" (even if he has an ax to grind) to assert on the thinnest evidence that a convergence of radical Islam and antiglobalist, or just as likely, antiwar organizations exists, and the witchhunt will descend.
We should be at least alarmed if not outraged over the bill’s passage, and yet it has hardly raised a blip on our political radars. As Goodman observes:
AMY GOODMAN: Jessica Lee, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act was passed in the house 400-6. That is a very big margin.
JESSICA LEE: Correct. It was actually passed under what is called the “Suspension of the Rules”, which is a provision the House uses to pass bills very quickly and these are usually bills deemed uncontroversial and do not need more debate. So we saw a quick vote. Six people voted against. One was presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich. He was unavailable for comment unfortunately. So what we’re seeing not only the Republican congress giving the Bush administration swath of powers to confront the war on terrorism, but we are also seeing the democratically-led congress also extending these powers.
At this point, the bill certainly looks to be a fait accompli. Perhaps, somewhere in the Senate, someone will find the courage to stand up and question what this bill does and where it is taking us.
It would take an act of unusual courage this year, because you can be certain anyone doing so would be accused of being "soft on terrorism" — and nothing sends politicians on both sides of the aisle scurrying faster than those dread words. And the Democrats voters put in power in 2006 have not exactly been profiles in courage so far, Chris Dodd notwithstanding.
Here are the Democratic members of the Senate Homeland Security committee:
Not exactly a promising list, I know. But it is what it is.
This bill is a runaway train loaded with nitroglycerin, and the wreckage it creates may be far worse than anyone anticipates. At this point, we may just want to prepare ourselves for the shock.
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Dave!
Hi David
Leftist? WTF? Excellent Post, David!
This is a bit worrisome.
Akaka, shall be hearing from me most rickety-tick!
Perhaps, somewhere in the Senate, someone will find the courage to stand up and question what this bill does and where it is taking us.
Nah.
Barack won’t show up. Too busy campaigning. He “supported” Chris Dodd in absentia. Don’t expect more. Levin is OK, or used to be when I lived in Michigan.
I am scared and worried about the future of our country, more every day.
Levin’s the chairman–and my congressman. He’s been rolling over more often than not lately. I can attempt to see if he’ll do something, but i won’t be holding my breath.
Say, a Victor Hansen? Or some such Reichwinger… 8-(
Was this bill written by the Doughy Pantload? It seems to have an enormous amount in common with his recently pilloried book…
Thank you for this, David. Just boggles my mind trying to understand what what Jane Harmon must have been thinking.. I wonder who wrote this bill?
All you need to do to get a bill passed in this Congress is just give it a snappy name. How about this one: “The Drowning Really Cute Puppies and Kittens in the River Prevention Act”?
Ya know, I was thinking just the other day. There is a frequent late-night commenter here, Norskeflamethrower. His comments are just the kind of thing this committee could jump on.
Nice knowing you free speech.
Let’s make some noise
digg this
Do you mean who drafted the actual language, or what group of people got Harmon to sponsor it?
Senator Pryor will love this bill. Like Lieberman, fascist coddling for Pryor is better than sex.
Both.
Gotcha. Did that.
Crawford was calling George Orwell an ‘Unimaginative Hack’ in comparison to this Maladministration, on Abrams, with Rachel Maddow calling Dana Peroxide the worst Press Sec in history… This is an awesome show… 8-)
Rape-Gurney Joe Lieberman will surely hold fair and open hearings on this subject very soon, or would if he wasn’t so busy with his fair and open hearings on Katrina contracting, and his fair and open hearings on Blackwater, and his fair and open hearings on Halliburton waste and fraud, and his fair and open hearings on any fucking governmental operation you want to shake a stick at.
Putting RGJoe in charge of Homeland Security and Government Affairs is like putting Karl Rove in charge of voter registration or Monica Goodling in charge of USAttorney replacements or David Addington in charge of the Unitary Executive — you get what you pay for. Now we know what all those campaign contributions were for in 2006. Lotsa folks are getting their money’s worth from RGJoe.
“And what role will Senator Lieberman play in an Obama presidential administration?” I’d like to ask the junior Senator from Illinois sometime on the campaign trail about his chosen Senate mentor.
Dugg.
This bill has had me scared stiff ever since I heard about it. Thanks for keeping on top of it.
alphabetical list of Senator phone and fax numbers
Just what they will need in place to declare a “State of Emergency” in about, let’s see, mid-September 2008.
Unless you’re doing something wrong, you’ve got nothing to worry about.
Didn’t Timothy McViegh have some ties to The Terrorists?
Dugg. And folks, this matters—Jane’s KBR post is #2 overall in top political news, and loosehead’s Hugh’s Scroll post is #1 in recent political news. Let’s get these stories out to a wider audience.
Who, pray tell, gets to decide what’s “wrong?”
One person’s right is another person’s wrong. :)
Name Phone # Fax #
Levin (202) 224-6221 (202) 224-1388
Akaka (202) 224-6361 (202) 224-2126
Carper (202) 224-2441 (202) 228-2190
Pryor (202) 224-2353 (202) 228-0908
Landrieu (202) 224-5824 (202) 224-9735
Obama (202) 224-2854 (202) 228-5417
McCaskill (202) 224-6154 (202) 228-6326
Tester (202) 224-2644 (202) 224-8594
Dugg too!
Our benevolent leaders, who have only our best interests at heart.
That is because when it is Democrats passing atrocious police state legislation, most of Left Blogistan is shut down by its own cognitive dissonance.
after all, more and better Democrats is the solution, right?
But 400-6, thats kind of a lot, isn’t it?
kind of like the trial balloons in the senate for the war on Iran, what was that, 96-0?
Maybe create a viable grass-roots third party movement that isn’t run by neo-cons and corporations, and your more and better Democrats, if
they exist, can defect or caucus with it when it suits their principles?
not such a long shot when you allow yourself to see the real nature of the national (D) party. Retroactive immunity for the telecoms, no justice for the war-criminals, but retroactive jeopardy to you if some group you donated to once gets rolled up by ‘Homeland Security’.
Or even if they thought you were Buttle, but you are actually Tuttle.
I got a lot to worry about then. It’s a goal to do at least one thing wrong every day.
Oh oh oh! Suggested title for this bill. Create A Terrorist (out of thin air).
And you can thank DEMOCRAT Jane Harman for it.
Not to worry – Mary Landrieu will be on the case!!!
She’s got more guts in her little finger than…ummm… she has in her little toe?
You forgot to close your snark tag…!
Spit my wine!
All snark, all the time.
That’s my kinda Prof!
Heh, I particularly like Ralph Nader, and, wouldn’t hesitate one Iota to pull that lever again, with no remorse, whatsoever… *g*
Maybe create a viable grass-roots third party movement that isn’t run by neo-cons and corporations, and your more and better Democrats,
HA!
oh i forgot there was a real Tuttle on board… i was referencing Gilliams’ Brazil, which is looking like a more and more probable dystopia.
On a holiday note
Today Santa Delivers 37,000+ Copies of Constitution to Bush
No worries, 1 in every 1,500+ can claim the honor… ;-)
SWEET!
I love it!
Katymine’s tollfree numbers for calling Congress:
1 (800) 828 – 0498
1 (800) 459 – 1887
1 (800) 614 – 2803
1 (866) 340 – 9281
1 (866) 338 – 1015
1 (877) 851 – 6437
like the maple syrup on one of your waffles
What we have here is “We the People vs the Beltway”.
The beltway is unhappy that we the people are complaining about their wisdom and perks.
At least one copy… Puh-leeze… If not please enshrine one in your ‘Library’ so we can refer back to it as a ‘before and after’ exhibit…?
I’m not surprised that this wasn’t on anyone’s radar, David; there’s so much crap being shoveled out by BushCo at any one time that it’s hard to keep up with it all — especially as the GOP/Media Complex doesn’t exactly spotlight this stuff.
Thanks for the numbers, Egregious!
I know I really need a diggervention but
here’s the digg link to Santa and the 37,000 copies of the Constition
Claire McCaskill is my senator, and the biggest strike against her in trying to stand up to this is that she’s a freshman. She’s a former prosecutor, and is well acquainted with the Rule of Law — and likely the slippery nature of a law that makes “the planned use of force” illegal.
Following back through the links that David gave, from LHP through Left Coaster and finally to Philip Giraldi at HuffPo, there’s plenty to use to push SOMEONE in the Senate to stand up to this.
Giraldi (no DFH is he – click the links at HuffPo for his bio) is particularly helpful, I think. He’s put together a historical narrative of similarly outrageous “save the nation” episodes, into which this fits all too well: the Alien and Sedition Acts, Sacco and Vanzetti, the Special Committee on Un-American Activities, its successor group — the House Un-American Activities Committee (McCarthy), the Patriot Acts, the Military Commissions Act, and now this.
I think Sen. McCaskill might be amenable to some persuasion on this — but I don’t know whether it will be enough to get her to stand up and take the point in leading the opposition to it.
The key is to find a way to connect with the Senator you’re contacting. For McCaskill, this historical piece might appeal to her; for others, something else may work. But we’ll never find out if we don’t hit the phones and faxes.
Here’s what the National Lawyers Guild says
More articles here
The Southern Poverty Center, the ACLU, the Anti-Defamation League, et al… have all monitored the true home-grown terrorism entities within the US, for years, the FBI is well apprised, so wtf?
I know this was a concern in some of the far right and far left blogs and rarely heard from the middle on this, now I fear we have come to late to the party on this. If I understand the wording in HR 1955 it could shut down all sites that are critical of any government official or position and make even the mildest movement an enemy of the state, or am I wrong (which I dearly hope I am).
Wiki says that his only known affiliations were that he was registered Republican before he left NY, and he held a membership in the NRA. Beside that, he objected to such things as the Waco Seige, and he had read “The Turner Diaries” whose plot involved white separatists. According to Wiki:
I’ve read H.R. 1955 2x now, and I don’t see that. It appears to be redundant and stupid, but I’m not sure it is onerous.
If they don’t declare them ‘Enemies of the State’, they can always hit’em in the pocketbook, to the tune of $300,000…
“Violent Radicalization and
HomegrownLefty Bloggers Prevention Act of 2007″thank you!
Hi argosfalcon, feeling better?
John!
Brazil, a good movie to re-watch periodically. You know, Gilliam based the events of his script on actual and contemporary (1980s) practices of secret police in the Operation Condor states and other places that were exporting refugees, as well as the actual tendencies he saw cropping up in the UK. Terminology, charging people for their torture, those horrible hoods, the ways in which arrests were done, all had real world correlates.
Be sure you don’t get a censored edition.
When I first heard of this bill, I did have to wonder but most of the chatter came from site I have been monitoring since the 90’s for fringe stuff as the noise grew louder from the edges I had to wonder. Is it more x-files chem-trails type stuff or was there more. Over the last 10 years or so many of the then fringe ideas have come to pass in some form or another. But of late I wonder when I look at the ceremonial tin foil hat in the corner, could this be one more thing I will come to wish I had paid more attention too.
Do you know how right you are?
A Briefing by Michael Chertoff
USC Center for Risk and Economic Analysis of Terrorism Events
Or look at it this way
USC
Center for
Risk and
Economic
Analysis of
Terrorism
Events
Would calling for an economic boycott of a given company constitute “planning a use of force” — in this case economic force — and thus bring someone making such a call subject to this bill?
Would participating in a strike constitute “a use of force” — in this case, removing one’s self from the workforce, thus forcing a business to either shut down or seek alternative employees?
I fear for how these kinds of questions would be answered, should this bill become law.
CREATE, eh? That gave my pretty strong stomach a bit of a lurch.
Hi Mary
Thanks to Jane and RBG I was finally able to log-on
Much better thanks, funny thing about blood flow and oxygen, regular heart beat and stuff. Who would have thought it mattered so much.
I wonder how angry McCaskill is about her Julie Myers “hold” being ignored and whether she’s pissed enough at the leadership to lead a Dodd-like charge against this new outrage.
Might be a good time to review and expand upon the classic rhetoric of nonviolent action. A lot might come to depned on being able to show a track record of peaceful intent, for people who want to engage in exercises of visible persuasion.
well I’m delighted! and yeah, who woulda thought that about the heartbeat and all…
Wonder what the smart money says about how long it will be before we or one of our good buddies in the Middle East attacks Iran?
With the use of agent provocateurs any organized protest and affiliated groups and individuals would be at risk.
Hey argosfalcon, great to see you back among us.
And prostratedragon, I think the methods of peace and nonviolence will need some buffing up for the next year. I shudder to think what plans for “free speech zones” are in the works for the presidential campaign.
Ummmmmmmmmmm…..
Do I detect the slimy hand of ‘SellOut’ Harry Reid here?
Is it not true that his aged, much abused by Bush, ass is due for a challenge in 2010?
If that is so I believe we could do some good for ourselves and our progressive agenda by painting a big bullseye on Senator ‘SellOut’. Lots and lost of Libertarians in NV I do believe.
So we don’t really need that old 2nd Amendment either, do we? And I’m sure there are others we can cross off.
/Not.
Now I know why Congress took so long to address the AMT issue:
Tax refunds will be delayed at the start of 2008 because of late passage of the Temporary Tax Relief Act of 2007, which Congress was apparently too busy to pass until now. President Bush is expected to sign the Act that extends the current AMT thresholds with a temporary one year “patch.”
There’s this too
I just went to the link to read the Bill and this is the stated make-up of the Committee formed by the Bill.
The President has an appointment on this Committee!:
`(1) one member shall be appointed by the President from among officers or employees of the executive branch and private citizens of the United States;
`(2) one member shall be appointed by the Secretary;
`(3) one member shall be appointed by the majority leader of the Senate;
`(4) one member shall be appointed by the minority leader of the Senate;
`(5) one member shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives;
`(6) one member shall be appointed by the minority leader of the House of Representatives;
`(7) one member shall be appointed by the Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives;
`(8) one member shall be appointed by the ranking minority member of the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives;
Even before 9-11, Muslims had very few friends within the Democratic Party, let alone the Republican Party. I would hardly describe our foreign policy toward the Mideast for decades as being balanced, fair or evenhanded.
This post and thread reminds me of another program, now on hold, but, in need of constant scrutiny. I just posted a rare update on the program in the news box.
A snip here:
David, thanks for this great post!
Well now I feel better, thats a group that would never do anything against the common good of the country or its citizen/subjects (insert snark)
Re the cyber security aspect of this, I wrote this:
I never added the satellite surveillance program to my list because I wasn’t sure if it was going anywhere. I may have to write something on it now as well. I don’t think it will be very effective but it looks like a big waste of money.
I missed that story — but it sounds like it might be worth following up on with McCaskill. Link, please?
“Perhaps, somewhere in the Senate, someone will find the courage to stand up and question what this bill does and where it is taking us.”
Courage in the Congress? Righteo.
I wish Dave would hang around more to talk after his brilliant posts. One the best things about fdl is how much we build on the essays when the author is here.
Yes, this was known to happen occasionally during the 1960s and 70s with civil rights actions, antiwar actions, etc. In fact, even the Haymarket Riot in Chicago back in 1890-whatever was probably started by provocs. It’s something to be aware of whenever things get edgy, though it shouldn’t shut people up from their legitimate expressions.
Cripes, next year …
Election year. Many more ARMS resetting than this year. Bush’s tower of rubbish gushing ever faster out from under the rug. Interesting times, interesting times.
Heres a tin foil hat idea; could some of these personal data losses be do to black bag operations not just simple criminal activities, to build up data bases where back doors and wink and nod deals don’t exist.
Hugh, I watched the House Homeland Security Committee meet on this in Oct. on cspan. Faces were pale and the extent of this “program” goes as far as giving local police high tech tools without warrants, including aerial drones.
All I could imagine was Barney Fife with x-ray vision, no warrant, and an ability to black mail everyone in the county.
I remember in the late 70’s and early 80’s many groups had an almost pathological fear of infiltration by conintelpro types, which got them of message and witch hunting within the group. A discredit from the outside and self destruct from the inside kind of deal.
Well, anyway, …
Have I missed a schedule on this bill somewhere? Like many here no doubt, I’m about to be oot for a while (one reason I’m all over the place, with my usual impending travel jitters) and it’s likely that anything I might try to do would have to wait at least a few days. But Obama’s one of my senators.
I’m awaiting the first claim of lost data, due to the fire in the EEOB, that happened to break out right next door to Darth’s office, a ‘phone bank’ started it… Righhttt…
Bad Phone Bank!!
Heh, The Energy Task Force list was the first to go… ;-)
I saw a list today of destroyed files I’ll see if I can find the link.
Evening all!
Landrieu will cave like the DINO she is, I think her days are numbered anyway. At the rate things are going there won’t be one D representing the state of Louisiana soon.
ET-read your diary at DK, excellent work!
Aloha, MM! How’s the weather?
I have said before, The Chimpy and Dicky Flying Circus will try to keep the plates spinning until 1/09, but they aren’t that skilled.
The plates are getting wobbly and they are going to start falling in January.
-G
Rained all day, warmish. The Christmas lizard was only able to warm himself in the window for a short while this morning before the skies opened up.
I agree aerial drones would be much more intrusive. They could give real time video and can hover over an area. They would also be far cheaper and far more open to abuse. Satellites on the other hand have short dwell times over a specific area and the kinds of imaging they could do is much more limited. Because they are very expensive there would be a lot of competition for their use so the local sheriff probably wouldn’t get his hands on one. I suppose they could be used for detecting marijuana fields but even here I doubt they would be cost effective. For me, this is a program that has boondoggle written all over it.
This one? … although, it’s a joke ;-)
I’m not sure this is the same one http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..724/424384
yep same one
I guess I should do more than read just the headlines.
Commander McShitheel is bringing his bad ju-ju tour to the Middle East in January.
He’s gonna go over like Ariel Sharon at the Temple Mount/Dome of Rock.
-G
Hah, That almost put’s Hugh’s list to shame… *g*
My computer had a major conniption this evening…it went f’ing nuts in a handbag when I hit the link to the new CIA document dump…Mr. LS fixed it..thank Goddess…just wonderin’…it happened when I hit the link to the “newly released documents” on Nolo’s site. Mr. LS, told me that it is because of the f’ing PC’s (he only uses a MAC)…
Left me mute (probably a good thing) for about 5 hours…
Seems to work now, because Mr. LS fixed the crappola…..He thinks it is just because PC’s suck… he’s usually right…the timing was a bit weird though….He’s usually right…and I am usually wrapped in tinfoil!
Heh, recall Mr. Creosote, if you dare.
(Refs a skit in MP’s “The Meaning of Life” whose value as a metaphor makes seeing it once essential, despite the fact that it’s thoroughly revolting.)
NYC local news: Clinton neighbor in Chappaqua arrested for the murder of his wife. (Neighbor’s wife, I presume.)
Obviously Hillary was involved.
*snark
-G
Peterr @ 69
for a preview of coming attractions, look to AETA – the “Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act”
Sigh. What did authoritarians use before “terrorist”?
Oops. Silly me.
Communist.
From Green Is The New Red:
She stood coldly by and watched.
wow you really are there for this. Just wondering why I didn’t copy Monday’s filibuster toll free numbers. Super thank you for implementing the next energy wawe from progessive to congress. The last one was immensely satifying. Now a leader will emerge with a plan. Monday 1/2 million on FISA immunity. Is a strategy formulating in a noggin somewhere… Mas Por Favor
LS — i hope it wasn’t due
to any glitch on my site! some-
times my “take the surveys” script
acts up — but that doesn’t seem
to be so, tonight. . . i have had
quite a spike in traffic, due to
the pleadings for tomorrow’s hear-
ing. . . so, thank you, to one and
all, for taking the time to look. . .
we all must look — and act.
p e a c e
Hello;
Post a copy of the Constitution and we can send it like a good germ to everyone we know. post it on web site, bulliten boards The Constitutionalist revival. We’ll a song writer to write a tune about the Bill of Write dedicated to Molly Ivins.
How about a video tape sent to all public TV stations that have public access for openers. MY public access peole willrun it. A grass doots Constitutional Movement and a Web based Constitutional Convention.
“Our benevolent leaders”? Which would those be?
“the Jihadist will seek common ground with leftist …”
Well, now that I’ve been exposed, it’s off to jail I go-go.
http://13martyrs.blogspot.com/
Can’t wait for Halliburton to build the first Jane Harman Memorial Re-Education Camp…
I recommend reading Robert Dreyfus’ Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam for a historical account of how the CIA, that notorious “leftist, anti-American, anti-globalization force” empowered a few militant Muslims into a force capable of blunting the Soviet Union’s expansion into the Middle East.
Wow… I guess it just goes to show, once again, if you want to unleash a crime-wave just convene the Congress. If there isn’t enough crime out there, they will invent new ones. We are all Winston Smith now.
And notwithstanding – Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act is a law that created a new brand of terrorists, the ‘domestic terrorist.’ Under this definition, the civil rights work Martin Luther King, Jr. did could have been construed as an act of ‘domestic terrorism”.
Under H.R. 1955/S. 1959 It’s possible that someone who would have been charged with disorderly conduct or obstruction of governmental administration may soon be charged with a federal terrorist statute if the Commission so deems. No more pesky demonstrations on the capitol grounds. Obama supports this legislation by the way.