Jane!

Jane!

But Dana is a toady. What happened to the good old days when people took pride in their work?

OK, Ann in AZ:

I’m quite happy to follow you twice this morning…

Jane ! Second ! Back to lurkin’.

Damn !

Jane:

small typo: emptywheel…

Jane, I notice you’ve had a bunch of hot posts lately. Is that to make up for no heat in the house? If you took up Cassie’s invite you could be basking in 70 degree sunshine right now. ;-)

Empathywheel

I saw her getting testy yesterday.
Something like It means what it means and I’m not going to comment about that.
She reminded me of an overworked, cranky mommy berating her children.
But, she’s so young and naive it doesn’t work for her. So, not only do we get no truth from her, there’s that psychological contradiction too.

It’s not important, but the lead paragraph in the post is repeated.

You know, if journalists would just admit that Dana is the face of the lying administration and that it is her job to mislead everybody, then we could all get along.

But that would mean that the WH press corpse would have to do some leg work of their own to find the other side of the she said/he said that they are duly required to write.

No one in the gop believes the merino says anything true, why would she worry about anything if she works for a serial killer? We can’t expect someone so callous to have feelings, they simply wouldn’t work for the killers. Or is it a mob thing? can’t quit without expecting problems? Sort of like religion? leave the one you are in and you know you are going to hell. Reputation? that is hilarious, a spokes liar, what kind of reputation would you prefer vs. the one you have?
when will stupidity be treated like the plague instead of embraced?

Maybe Dana, unlike Ari, actually has a conscience and is actually concerned with outright lying?

Yeah, I know. That thought made me laugh as well.

From the WH Press Briefing yesterday:

MS. PERINO: If you want to defend The New York Times, then you might look at it that way. I’m looking at it from anybody White House —

Q It does seem like it’s not that —

MS. PERINO: I think anyone — and believe me, the people that I’ve talked to, the reading of it — when I first looked at it, I felt that that was saying that I had misled the American public on this, and I have not. There is nothing I have said that has been contradictory. And there is a preliminary inquiry being led by Attorney General Mukasey and General Hayden, and it is appropriate to let that play out.

Under our Constitution the press is free to speculate as much as they want, and they can report on as many former administration officials or unnamed current officials that they want to, that contradict each other throughout this story. I’m not allowed to do that. I am an employee of the federal government. I respect the request from the White House Counsel’s Office that we not comment from this podium, and I have not. And for someone to imply that I had is offensive.

Q Well, you’re the one (inaudible) implication. You’re the one who said —

Q You’re the one who’s drawing the implication. Would you have been happy if the subhead had read, “White House role was lighter than previously understood”?

MS. PERINO: I have not — what it says is that I had changed my story, and I have not.

Q It doesn’t say that.

MS. PERINO: It — that’s how I took it, and I am not —

Q It does not say —

MS. PERINO: — the only one.

Q It simply says that the White House does not comment on this, then it goes on to —

MS. PERINO: That is not — that’s not what it says in its headline, Bill. And there was editorial decision that led to this subheadline, because if they didn’t want to make this point to try to say that the White House had misled the public, why would they put it in bold face above the fold, and then not — and then it’s not supported by any of the facts or the contradictory statements in the article.

Q But that’s very difficult to judge when you won’t give us the facts.

MS. PERINO: I respect the fact that Attorney General Mukasey has asked for a preliminary inquiry, that he’s working with CIA General Counsel on, as well as General Hayden. Our White House Counsel is supporting that. And CBS News is free to speculate as much as it wants, but I’m not going to do that. And I haven’t done it in the past.

Q But it’s —

Q You’re not even —

Q — you say it was contradicting you —

MS. PERINO: It says the White House role was wider than “it” said — “it” is referring to the White House, I am the spokesperson for the White House.

Q Okay. Okay, but you’re defining it that way. In fact, right after the first — this story first broke, people within the administration did say privately that, in fact, Harriet Miers had told the CIA not to destroy the tapes and that that suggested that the White House, in fact, was saying don’t destroy. Now this New York Times story is saying four people in the President — or Vice President’s inner circle actually talked to the CIA about it. So that does suggest a wider role.

MS. PERINO: I am not accountable for all the anonymous sources that you turn up. I’m not. I am accountable — I speak for the President and the White House. This says that I was misleading, and I was not.

Q It doesn’t say you. It doesn’t say you at all. And there were other people in the administration who —

MS. PERINO: The White House does not comment. The only thing that I have said from this podium is regarding to the President and his recollection. And if CNN has different information that they want to provide to me that contradicts what I’ve said, you know, let’s see it.

Q They didn’t specifically say it’s you. It’s talking about the White House, the administration in general.

MS. PERINO: I speak for the White House. I represent the White House.

Q Why do you take it personally?

MS. PERINO: I’m not taking it personally. I’m taking it — I speak for the White House. It’s not a personal thing. The White House asked for a correction. And I would remind you, The New York Times is going to do one.

Testy, yes. And not pretty. I meant the briefing…

Perino: Peroxide on a pig.

Poor Dana. She is a pretty girl.
She shoulda come to Hollywood and done commercials — you know, like sell toilet bowl cleaners?
Oh, that’s right, she’s kinda already doing something like that.

Hey Jane –

I dunno…I just never watch WH press conferences. I mean why spend time watching a conga line of paid liars lie to the press? And then watch the press just type it up?

But it’s always fun to watch her pitch a hissy fit.

Yes, it certainly is, Jane. Nice job on the post. Loved the snark.

Miss Prissy and her hissy want the journalists that she faces everyday to believe that she, and only she, speaks for the White House, speaks for the President. This while you have the VP and his boys whispering sweet nothings in journalists ears! Yeah, Dana, that’ll happen! Really it will, if you only believe!

Poor Dana. She is a pretty girl.
She shoulda come to Hollywood and done commercials — you know, like sell toilet bowl cleaners?
Oh, that’s right, she’s kinda already doing something like that.

Toilet bowl cleaner can only do so much when nobody ever flushes the damned stool.

Make that 3, Biodun!

Dana would be very annoying to watch even if I was not a liberal. That superior smirk she wears reminds of too many people I have known who believe they are more exceptional than others (& show it) with nothing to back it up. She is an ignorant twit, imo.

I am begining to compare Dana Perino with Ron Zieglar.

She is an ignorant twit, imo.

That’s not an opinion, it’s a goddamned fact.

Dana does indeed through a delightful hissy…

I found it fascinating listening to her on NPR’s “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me”. Not the Cuban Missile idiocy, but when she’s asked about her tough week and all of the sudden her perky cheerful persona turns to ice after being asked her encounter with Helen Thomas the previous week. Don’t mess with this woman’s talking points.

OT, sorry, but here’s a pullquote from Glenn Greenwald today:

I don’t see how someone can claim to be opposed to, say, America’s presumed right to attack countries that haven’t attacked us while simultaneously insisting that the only candidates worth listening to are ones who affirm that right. That makes no sense to me. Nor do I understand how someone can claim that we suffer from a civil liberties and constitutional crisis while thinking that the only legitimate candidates worth hearing from are ones who won’t do very much about that other than to nibble around its edges.

He could be talking right to some Clinton or Obama supporting fire-pups, couldn’t he?

Dana Perino doesn’t even know a thing about the Cuban Missile Crisis, but yet, she’s the one who is the voice of the Bush Regime! Uh ha. Well, I suppose, it makes sense to take a person who knows nothing and then tell this person, “Here’s what you have to say today!”, and it does make it easier. No?

Make that 3, Biodun!

Well, I followed you only twice. Someone else followed you the third time…*g*

Ms. Perino strikes me to be a person very protective of her master, and quite capable of directing much vindictiveness and anger toward those who would criticize her prez.

Ooowww! Snap!

Precisely why they hired her. To fill an empty vessel with fiction and fable.

I thought about that after I already posted. Three consecutive threads! That’s a record and a new personal best for me!

“erode her own credibility” Ha! Don’t think you can erode no credibility any further but they keep trying.
Hi Jane, Off topic but the widget for letters to the amptp isn’t working for me. I wrote the Daily Show and Colbert Report and the Mailer-Daemon will not deliver them. Is it just me? Have I angered the email daemons somehow? Perhaps it was the tone of my letter:)
Take care, Jan

Did Dana Perino graduate from Regent University? If so, that explains a lot.

And this is from Dana’s WH press briefing the day before yesterday, Dec. 18:

Q Dana, is the White House taking any steps to make sure the CIA does not destroy any tapes — any more tapes while these — judges look at things, Congress looks at things, the CIA — is the White House taking any steps to make sure there’s no more destruction?

MS. PERINO: I’m going to refer you to the Justice Department, who is working on the preliminary inquiry with the CIA.

Q Okay. You’ve previously not commented on the CIA tapes case by saying that you want to — you don’t to interfere with any investigations, you want to make sure they move forward. Why then on Friday did the Justice Department all of a sudden say they’re not going to cooperate with congressional investigations, any of the oversight that’s going on on the Hill?

MS. PERINO: I think that’s a question that is best put to the Justice Department, and the Justice Department will be able to answer for you.

Q But the Attorney General serves at the pleasure of the President, so it’s clearly something that the White House has —

MS. PERINO: We have complete confidence in General Hayden and General — Attorney General Mukasey to handle this in an appropriate way. And so I refer you over there for details about their decision.

Q One last on that. Republican Congressman Pete Hoekstra is not satisfied and saying he’d be onboard with subpoenas — they may be voted on in the House Intelligence Committee as early as today. Would the White House comply with subpoenas if they come up in the CIA tapes case? Or would you, like you’ve done in other cases, not want to comply with them?

MS. PERINO: I’m going to refer you to the Justice Department.

Q But if they actually issued subpoenas to the White House, not the Justice Department, would you comply with that?

MS. PERINO: I’m going to refer you to the Justice Department on that.

Talk about talking points… (Ref: comment @ 25.)

Ditto me. Both TDS & CR emails got kicked back.

Didn’t Dana try to pretend later that she was kidding when she said she didn’t know anything about the cuban missile crisis on npr? Like I believe that. She is the wh spokesperson & she wasn’t smart enough to know better to admit over the airwaves she was clueless about a major historical event. Not a bright bulb.

Three consecutive threads!

Congrats. I might have had that maybe three times. But I’m not really counting… I know I have had three unconsecutive threads in one day many times. *g*

The poor thing isn’t going to get as good of a book deal as Scottie got, and you KNOW that’s got to be eating at her.

Does anyone here remember the song from Music Man,
Pick a little, Talk a little?
This am it’s been clean a little, blog a little. Bake, bake, bake, blog a little more.
Thank you friends for breaking up my chores with some considerate snarking and helpful links…and a good reason to get away from the fumes.
:)

For those asking or curious, this is Dana’s background:

Perino graduated from the University of Southern Colorado (now known as Colorado State University-Pueblo) in 1994 with a bachelor’s degree in mass communications and minors in both political science and Spanish. While attending the university, Perino was active on the debate team and with KTSC-TV, the campus-based Rocky Mountain PBS affiliate where she served as host of Capitol Journal, a weekly summary of Colorado politics, and producer of Standoff, a weekly public affairs program. From there, Perino attended graduate school at the University of Illinois at Springfield (UIS). Perino obtained her masters at UIS in Public Affairs Reporting while also working as a daily reporter covering the Illinois Capitol for WCIA-TV, a CBS affiliate.

How big a book deal did Scottie get? If it is bigger than Rove gets for his…ouch.

I think ol’ Scotty actually had a conscience, which made it difficult for him to lie convincingly all the time.

Ari had neither conscience nor scruples so he had no problems lying. Since he was also a truel believer, it was no problem across the board.

Dana is a True Believer so has no problems lying. But since she’s also shown that she’s rather lacking in the brains/knowledge of the world, she can’t do it as convincingly as Ari could.

Thanks, Biodun. We are so easily amused, aren’t we?!!

Maybe they should start off with some questions that she MIGHT know the answers to, like

“Dana? Are you a natural blonde?” Or “Dana? What’s your real age?”

Aye that perino is such a loser. She is the worst one.
OT, and I refuse to put a link for Drudge(u know where to find that garbage dump).
But word is starting to spread on the internets that St Mccain is trying to stop the Times from prinitng a very nasty article about him and the telecom bill. Bill Keller is being lobbied by Bill Bennett. Wonder if the wingnuts are trying to bring down St McCain? I wonder if keller will protect another war-mongering wingnut if the story is really true. According to Drudge, keller doesn’t want to interfere with the upcoming primaries, BUT…if it was a Dem he would have nos such thoughts!
I can’t stand the press anymore!

Does anyone here remember the song from Music Man,
Pick a little, Talk a little?
This am it’s been clean a little, blog a little. Bake, bake, bake, blog a little more.
Thank you friends for breaking up my chores with some considerate snarking and helpful links…and a good reason to get away from the fumes.
:)

smells like Christmas Spirit!

And this bit:

Perino met her English husband Peter McMahon, 18 years her senior and a sales and marketing director for medical products, whom Bush calls “The Englishman,” on a flight from Denver. After marrying, his job relocated to England so they moved to Lytham St Annes, Lancashire and lived in a flat overlooking the Irish Sea for a year. McMahon has two adult children from his previous marriage, making Perino a step-grandmother of twins.[3]

In 2007, Perino appeared on the radio quiz show Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me! known for, in an amusing fashion, embarrassing the guests[4]. Perino told a self-deprecating, humorous anecdote about how she had to ask her husband about the Cuban Missile Crisis after it came up in a press briefing. News reports treated her comments as a moment of levity, noting that she was born ten years after the event

The Englishman indeed. He’s the one who said “Oh, Dana” after she told him about confusing the Bay of Pigs with the Cuban Missile Crisis…

(Same link as my 41.)

Thanks for that Bio.
I must say, I’m stunned. Really stunned.
I Never would have thought that she had that kind of education.
There’s got to be something more than just kool-aid going on.
Hypnotism?

The poor thing isn’t going to get as good of a book deal as Scottie got, and you KNOW that’s got to be eating at her.

Speaking of which, didn’t I read somewhere recently that there wasn’t as much interest for Rove’s book as originally thought?

Perinno: In way over her head like many Bush employees. However, the lying in the admin succeeds because it has great facilitators in the completely gutless dems.

They’ll hold various Bushies “in comptempt” of Congress. That’d be the 110th Congress who was gonna do things differnetly and just passed a bill with literally 9000 earmarks in it. Fine. And now what?

Tomorrow you’ll see State Secrets plastered all over the walls of Judge Henry Kennedy’s courtroom in D.C.

Think of the Republican juggernaut as Pinnochio with a straight arm that can knock the Dems down every time.

Ari told the Press Corps years ago, “Be careful what you say”, you know…to squash dissent and those pesky “getting to the bottom of the truth!” questions. Then we had Scotty McClellan who said, “No comment” after every question. Now we have ole Dana who has that far off brainwashed look who says she can’t comment on anything because there’s an investigation going on. I’m sorry, but I’m tired of their bullshit!

Ongoing investigation has been replaced with preliminary inquiry as the excuse of the day for not answering simple questions. Dana can’t even state whether or not the WH will comply with subpoenas. Seems that WH refusal to obey the law is a good reason for impeachment.

This well-accessorized pig missile actually greets the Press Corps in the voice of the fat, drunk and stupid Fred (the Dorff) Dorffman . . .

” . . . hellllooooooo”

Correx to my 48:

Hubby said “Oh, Dana” after wifey asked him if the Cuban Missile Crisis was that Bay of Pigs thing…

Uh, Dorffman was actually known as “Flounder” (his “Delta Tau Chi pledge name”)

I think her reaction yesterday reveals a real achilles heel for her:
It matters to her what the public thinks about her.

People like Rove and Bush and Cheney, not so much do they care what the public thinks of them.

Oh gawd…Perino in action!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4kt.....re=related

Scary. I cry for my country.

Speaking of which, didn’t I read somewhere recently that there wasn’t as much interest for Rove’s book lies as originally thought?

Forgive the correction but I think we should be more explicit as to what Rove is selling

Speaking of Christmas smells And Dana Perino, I’m outta here to go buy lots of flowers for my livingroom: Narcissus!
See y’all later.

Speaking of which, didn’t I read somewhere recently that there wasn’t as much interest for Rove’s book lies as originally thought?

Forgive the correction but I think we should be more explicit as to what Rove is selling

I think you’ve got it

Speaking of which, didn’t I read somewhere recently that there wasn’t as much interest for Rove’s book lies as originally thought?

The DLC is eargerly awaiting it to use as a textbook.

Heeey…allowing a brief segue to an Animal House quote:

Bush to We the People:

“Hey, you fucked up. You trusted us.”

Sorry for the OT…carry on.

whom Bush calls “The Englishman,”

That Bush and his razor-sharp wit! Who else, but Dubya could have come up with such a clever nickname for an Englishman?!

And just why hasn’t Attorney General Mukasey RECUSED himself? As JUDGE Mukasey he issued the warrants to seach the residence and computers of Jose Padilla, based principally on the torture interrogation of Abu Zubayah. So he was either assured by the DOJ that Zubaydah’s interrogation wasn’t under duress (in which case he was lied to); OR he knowingly approved the water-boarding.

In either case he’s involved very deeply with the case…and possibly criminally involved. Plus he may have LIED to Congress about not making any judgments regarding water boarding if he was aware of the methods of interrogation.

If the latter he should step down from the AG position.

This well-accessorized pig missile

rofl

Ari had neither conscience nor scruples so he had no problems lying. Since he was also a truel believer, it was no problem across the board.

I disagree here. I don’t consider Ari a liar. But I think he’s VERY good at not telling the truth. Look at how he handled the Libby case. Most lawyers can trip witnesses up on cross-examination. With Ari, they never even came close. And I’m convinced that there was SOMETHING they were trying to pry out of him, and he simply tap-danced his way out of it.

Mucousy seems to have slid into a slippery situation.

A warning shot over the deck of America’s sinking ship…

http://wonkette.com/politics/n.....331981.php

Again, I cry for my country everyday…usually by noontime.

And just why hasn’t Attorney General Mukasey RECUSED himself?

As Justice Scalia would say, recusing is for wimps. Besides when you are turning a blindeye to all the other felonies this Administration is committing and even maybe abetting some of them, what’s a little conflict of interest?

I disagree here. I don’t consider Ari a liar. But I think he’s VERY good at not telling the truth.

Actually, what Ari and Scott did was exactly the opposite of what they were supposed to be doing: quite good at giving out no information whatever on most things.

What about Ari and Rove and the press guys by the side of the road in Africa? I think Ari got caught lying then.

Withholding the article, of course, would be what is interfering with the primaries.

See also: phone jamming in NH….

What about Ari and Rove and the press guys by the side of the road in Africa? I think Ari got caught lying then.

I disagree on this, too. I think that was an honest difference in recollections. Ari testified that he told the press guys MORE information than they remembered receiving, not less. The most likely scenario, in my mind, is that he was using typical Ari-speak, and the reporters either had no idea what he was trying to say, or they were just ignoring him completely.

I can just see behind the doors of the WH, the nasties laughing at another sucker they sent out to the arena to get face smacked and play the stupid fool. Poor Dana. After reviewing all the other selectees at the podium in the WH press room, you’d think she would have turned that job down. But nnnnooooooo, this time it’s going to be different. Hah!

Here’s an example of Ari Fleischer in action:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news.....205-7.html

He was good. He was veeeeeeeery good. ;-)

OT–

And Repugs managed to pull this off in a so-called Dem-controlled Congress:

Filed at 12:26 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) — The demise of the bridge to nowhere notwithstanding, Sen. Ted Stevens and other Republicans remain the kings of pork-barrel spending, proving that GOP mastery of ”earmarks” can withstand public scorn, a president’s rebuke and even a Democratic takeover of Congress.

The Senate’s two biggest sponsors of this year’s pet spending projects are Republicans Stevens of Alaska and Thad Cochran of Mississippi, according to preliminary reviews of fiscal 2008 spending bills by Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan group. Two of the House’s three biggest claimants of earmarks also are Republicans: Bill Young of Florida and Jerry Lewis of California, the group found.

What became of Scottydog’s tell-all no-tell Bushco ordered recant?

Apparently the new CNN Iowa Poll shows that Edwards, Obama, and Clinton are statistically even with each other in Iowa.

Not that anyone is interested in a “horserace” ;-)

And AP editorializes a little bit:

Their continued success at steering billions of taxpayer dollars to their constituents is all the more impressive — or arguably hypocritical — since President Bush and other prominent Republicans sharpened their criticisms of earmarks after Democrats took over the House and Senate majorities in January.

(Same link as my 77.)

And Harry Reid’s reaction to the Repug pork-barrel haul is quite lame:

Lawmakers said Stevens and Cochran outpaced all other senators because Democrats tend to spread their share of earmarks more widely than do Republicans. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said in an interview Wednesday he was not surprised by Cochran’s and Stevens’ haul.

”They are both very veteran legislators” and longtime members of the Appropriations Committee, Reid said. ”I would assume people in the top seniority bracket would be able to understand the process a little better and do well for themselves.”

(Same link as the others.)

I think Ari is a liar, Scotty and Dana too. When up is down and down is up and the Press Secretary is explaining it thus on behalf of a pack of liars, then who is lying? They all are.

According to Drudge, keller doesn’t want to interfere with the upcoming primaries

This is reminiscent of Keller’s holding the NSA warrantless wiretapping story before the 2004 election because he did not want it to have an impact on the election, neatly overlooking the fact that its absence also had an impact, one favoring Bush.

oh GOD how I despise her.

I would like to point out that name calling “Pig Missile” doesn’t seem to invoke much critical thinking or solutions to the issues. I read liberal blogs to help further our causes and look for solutions. I have forwarded items to other interested liberal since 2002. That Dana Perino is over her head in this job is not news.

What makes your name calling any different from the Rush Limbaughs?

The internet and blogs are our only means out of the mess we are in. Lets use our voice responsibly.

i don’t know, i took it as like a “lipstick on a pig” gone ballistic sort of reference.

Hey, Sen. Suzie-Q Collins’ Internet Director, Lance Dutson, didn’t call Jane and others here at FDL “foul-mouthed fem bloggers” for nothing! It’s been earned very well I may add.

If you’ve spent anytime reading the reich wing blogs, you’d know in an instant that “pig missile” is nothing compared to what the vile knuckle draggers are saying every minute of every day.

Thank you for your concern

Edwards was leading in Tuesday’s Insider Advantage/Majority Opinion Poll. Edwards also leads in the all important 2nd choice candidate. Barring any unforeseen mis-steps in the next few weeks, I believe Edwards will win Iowa. The question will be, can he gain enough momentum from that win. I certainly hope so.

OT - Maybe. Did Mitt’s father really march with MLK? Are their photos of him and MLK side-by-side in the south marching while angry crowds screamed, shook their fists, police gnashing dogs trained to rip people apart, fire hoses and other friendly greetings? I need to see them for proof. Or is Mitt creating an urban myth? You know, like the Alamo myth - it’s a good story regardless of its basis in fact.

Pig Missile is a concise critique which convolutes the Bay Of Pigs Invasion with the Cuban Missile Crisis in a manner that Dana herself invoked. Very fitting, I think.

Dana comes off, to me, as a harried substitue teacher who somehow thinks that she’s due respect soully because she has the biggest desk.

Quaker Girl, Mitt Romney’s MLK story has been proven to be a lie. Can’t remember whether it was here or Daily Kos that I read about it.

I wonder what kind of contract Dana signed. What’s her sunset date? I get the sense she can’t wait ’til this gig is over. Bet she strikes off another day on her calendar buried deep in her desk drawer.

If I had marched with MLK I’d have a picture and it would be blown up and plastered on my living room wall.

Mitt was speaking metaphorically in tongues.

Mitt was using a parable - like Jesus liked to do. Mitt probably has a black friend.

More administration fuckery upstairs in Tula’s new thread:

Bush Ideology Bleeds Workers

Dear Sporkovat:

I intend to vote for whichever Democrat is nominated. That statement includes Hillary Clinton and Barrack Obama. I can’t speak for other people on Firedoglake, but I’m not willing to see any of the Republicans elected, if I can help it, by witholding or wasting my vote. I have great respect Glenn’s remarkable intelligence and writing. However, if either he or you can’t understand my position, I’m sorry.

You know, I just moved back to the States after living much of the last decade in Central America, primarily Costa Rica.

For a dyed in the wool liberal like myself, cruising through a blog site like Firedog Lake is fun, and to some extent reassuring. It reinforces for me two things.

One is that there are others out there who think like me, sort of.

The other is I realize, despite all the buzz about the power of the blogosphere, just how powerless we peons really are in the face of a bipartisan political class in this country that, despite all the superficial differences the class’s members claim exist between them, shares a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

Hillary doesn’t want change. She’s a phony thru and thru.

If Hillary were a working or middle class woman who put up with the abuse and humiliation big Bubba heaped on her, the mental health and social work professions, especially many women in those professions, would be labeling Hillary as “codependent”, “lacking in self esteem”, or some other PC psycho babble diagnosis that is so popular these days.

But instead, Hillary, just because she’s a woman, as codependent and lacking in self esteem as she is, - arrogance and entitlement, by the way do not add up to self esteem and self respect-, is being held up by many as a role model for younger women to look up to.

I don’t think so folks!

This country, as Keith Olbermann so aptly pointed out in his interview with Bill Moyers, is in a state of emergency.

All the pithy, clever comments slamming Bush aren’t going to do the proverbial pee hole in the snow’s worth of any good to turn this country around.

The entire political class of this country is corrupt.

Until people, of all political persuasions, begin to accept that reality, nothing is going to change.

When I decided to come back this year, I really thought there was going to be an opportunity to help bring about real change.

but the more I watch, the more I realize the rainforest might just be where I really belong.

At least there, you know who the real snakes are - be they reptilian or human.

Among America’s bipartisan political class today, it’s all but impossible to tell who the snakes are..

Olbermann for President!

That’s why I suggested in Christy’s thread on the economy that the Dems come together and form a unified, informed party policy that will really address issues with solutions:

I recommended the Dems come up with a party platform to run on that was problem-solving centered. For example, meet with Gore and come up with an environmental/sustainable/energy policy-plan and that no matter who ends up the candidate, “that group formed policy” would go on to serve the country.

I suggested they meet with the Concord Coalition to form an economic policy and to start working on it as a group before the election because of how bad things are going to be soon.

Crazy. Maybe. Novel? Workable? Yes! It would rally my vote ASAP to actually see the Dem candidates roll up their sleeves and start serving our country as leaders NOW instead of talking about it on the campaign trail.The actions of preservation would echo across the country.

I know, a pipe dream…Unfortunately, it’s going to take a pipe dream to fix and preserve our nation.

When I first glanced at your comment, I saw ‘empty weasel’ instead of ‘empty vessel’. Both are appropriate.

I am intrigued to know who coined the “Pig Missle” moniker? It always gets my attention when coffee comes shooting out my nose.