Comments on: Can You Name The Mystery Presidential Candidate?

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:20:42 +0000

Cinnamonape, I think I have discerned my answers from your 125 and 126, and thanks again.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:10:09 +0000

Libby received a partial commutation and not a pardon. He could probably still plead the fifth.

For what? But I don’t recall that he actually plead the Fifth in any of his testimony, and he has already been charged with Obstruction and Perjury for lying. I suspect that Fitz could call him in and tell him…”Fess Up” and he would have to tell the truth. If he lied AGAIN, he might be once again susceptible to new charges.

But Fitz could offer limited immunity.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:01:52 +0000

Point taken. My understanding is that a Pardon or Commutation can only apply to FEDERAL Criminal acts and not to Civil Suits. The immunity being offered in the Senate Intelligence Committee FISA revision would excuse the Telecoms from civil litigation (thus blocking disclosure of their criminal activity). I’m not sure if the Telecoms would still be eligible for charges under State Privacy laws. Or if they could refuse to testify before Congress once the law was enacted.

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:54:07 +0000

Hey, thanks for explaining. It’s starting to make some sense now, due to your patience. But I do have one question, or whatever you want to call it. If Fitz now wanted to (re)open an investigation of conspiracy to reveal the identity of a CIA NOC, couldn’t he question Libby about the VP’s involvement and what he knew and when he knew it, and the same with Rove and Armitage and Ari Fleischer and whoever else he thinks may have been involved? Also, does a pardon preclude a civil suit? Or should I say, Do all Presidential pardons or commutations apply to civil suits as well?

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:49:43 +0000

I’d prefer Ronnie…Phil’s ex-wife. Great voice!

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:48:19 +0000

if your daughter was born from ONE US parent they are citizens by “jus sanguinus”. As i noted, that’s controversial as to whether that’s “natural born”. It’s never been tested, though many felt that Romney would have successfully challenged the interpretation.

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The residency issue is a bit more of an issue. Does that mean “14 years TOTAL”? Or “14 years continuous before the election”? Does THAT apply to Territories (”within the United States” is more precise than the terms of citizenship, which allows Territorial citizenship, surprisingly)?

By: demi

demi — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:48:03 +0000

Sheldon Whitehouse now insinuating that “someone got to him” in reference to the very different performance Mukasey played on the second day of his nomination questioning.

By: rwcole

rwcole — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:47:54 +0000

Libby received a partial commutation and not a pardon. He could probably still plead the fifth.

By: Smgumby

Smgumby — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:47:39 +0000

Lets go upstairs and get our conspiracy on!

By: jayt

jayt — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:46:39 +0000

What would Hatch be?
That’s a tough one. Maybe just a mouth?

Too bad South park already has “Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo’, sewed up.