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	<title>Comments on: Sucks To Be You, Hil</title>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1152466</link>
		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Love that photo, Phoenix!  :o)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Who, me???   I’m WAAAYYY too politically savvy to be photographically captured standing beside a bushCo ass-licking warpimp like Joe Lieberman, (whom, after my attempted help in the Connecticut Primary, came VERY close to keeping the U.S. Senate in republican hands)  I would never do that at a time when my lead in New Hampshire is evaporating like a puddle of back alley piss.”   :o)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love that photo, Phoenix!  :o)</p>
<p>Hillary:</p>
<p>“Who, me???   I’m WAAAYYY too politically savvy to be photographically captured standing beside a bushCo ass-licking warpimp like Joe Lieberman, (whom, after my attempted help in the Connecticut Primary, came VERY close to keeping the U.S. Senate in republican hands)  I would never do that at a time when my lead in New Hampshire is evaporating like a puddle of back alley piss.”   :o)</p>
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		<title>By: demtn</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151704</link>
		<dc:creator>demtn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is bad news for Obama if independents in New Hampshire vote for McCain instead of Obama though, so it really “sucks to be Barack.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bad news for Obama if independents in New Hampshire vote for McCain instead of Obama though, so it really “sucks to be Barack.”</p>
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		<title>By: goldberry</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151609</link>
		<dc:creator>goldberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He also didn’t endorse Obama.  That is one of the more startling things.  See, I can understand why he doesn’t like Clinton.  Despite all the accusations hurled at her that she’s a war hawk, she’s actually not.  Wes Clark is no friend of Lieberman but he *is* closely associated with Clinton’s campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
But Obama?  What’s up with that? I thought that Lieberman was a buddy of Obama’s in the senate when he first got there.&lt;br /&gt;
Ahhh, I take it back.  It makes perfect sense.  Lieberman hasn’t given up hope that he’ll make it to the WH.  If he has to be second fiddle, so be it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also didn’t endorse Obama.  That is one of the more startling things.  See, I can understand why he doesn’t like Clinton.  Despite all the accusations hurled at her that she’s a war hawk, she’s actually not.  Wes Clark is no friend of Lieberman but he *is* closely associated with Clinton’s campaign.<br />
But Obama?  What’s up with that? I thought that Lieberman was a buddy of Obama’s in the senate when he first got there.<br />
Ahhh, I take it back.  It makes perfect sense.  Lieberman hasn’t given up hope that he’ll make it to the WH.  If he has to be second fiddle, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151261</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 06:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” — Sinclair Lewis&lt;br /&gt;
How phofhetic of Sinclair it seems to say how we got here. Church gets back into politics. Wasn’t freedom of religion separation of church from state&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.” — Sinclair Lewis<br />
How phofhetic of Sinclair it seems to say how we got here. Church gets back into politics. Wasn’t freedom of religion separation of church from state</p>
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		<title>By: radlib1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151207</link>
		<dc:creator>radlib1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“BENEDICT” LIEBERMAN&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Benedict” Lieberman is just showing his true, rat-like nature, scuttling into the arms of McCain. May the Democrats now throw this treacherous vermin out of its caucus and out of his Homeland Security committee chairmanship and pelt him with foul, rotten fruit (which of course, he would scarf up like the political rodent he has turned out to be).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“BENEDICT” LIEBERMAN</p>
<p>“Benedict” Lieberman is just showing his true, rat-like nature, scuttling into the arms of McCain. May the Democrats now throw this treacherous vermin out of its caucus and out of his Homeland Security committee chairmanship and pelt him with foul, rotten fruit (which of course, he would scarf up like the political rodent he has turned out to be).</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151192</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Remember how ‘Honest Abe” got the nomination of the party to become president. At the time was was no more popular than Dennis is now. Speculation is not certification Obama and Hillary will hit some tough sledding and Edwards and Kucinich may end up on top&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember how ‘Honest Abe” got the nomination of the party to become president. At the time was was no more popular than Dennis is now. Speculation is not certification Obama and Hillary will hit some tough sledding and Edwards and Kucinich may end up on top</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes:&lt;br /&gt;
Remember Linda Tripp? She was certain the Repugs would be eternally grateful for her sneaky ugly deeds. Instead, they slammed the door in her face and said not in our backyard. She couldn’t get a job, grew behind in her mortgage payments and finally lost her home. What can I say, you reap what you sow.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Oh yes what a pig as in sow. Interesting how all the minions get throw under the bus after they serve their corporate masters. The moral compass of the American populace would register somewhere close to the present congress.&lt;/strong&gt; Thr pups comments are so refreshing and hopeful you are doing great things. I’ll set my alarm to watch Dodd, which stands for Department of Democracy Defence&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes:<br />
Remember Linda Tripp? She was certain the Repugs would be eternally grateful for her sneaky ugly deeds. Instead, they slammed the door in her face and said not in our backyard. She couldn’t get a job, grew behind in her mortgage payments and finally lost her home. What can I say, you reap what you sow.<br />
<strong>Oh yes what a pig as in sow. Interesting how all the minions get throw under the bus after they serve their corporate masters. The moral compass of the American populace would register somewhere close to the present congress.</strong> Thr pups comments are so refreshing and hopeful you are doing great things. I’ll set my alarm to watch Dodd, which stands for Department of Democracy Defence</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151041</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Newsday says Bill and his partisans on her campaign are trying to sideline Mark Penn.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, one of the stated reasons is supposed to be that he hasn’t let her unload on Obama.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then again, I doubt they heard about this from someone with Penn’s best interests at heart.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s curious they would have to think about this move. But then, they do tend to committeeize every decision over there.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If she wants to win, then how else but to show up the opponents mistakes, flaws, etc. I don’t even think the suggestion about Republicans attacking Obama’s cocaine use was really out of bounds. The magnification of it to include drug dealing wasn’t very nice though.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Frankly, I think there’s enough known about the candidates to decide. It’s just that the early caucus/primary state electorate haven’t necessarily been listening closely. At this point, just reiterating known things can be useful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BTW, I’d love to hear some of the Repub talking pts. Obama has used. I’ve only heard a couple of his speeches and they’re pretty blase.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder, if Edwards people have considered who he might want as a veep, would they consider Hillary at all? I wouldn’t say the heat of the campaign has been a problem. But, their politics are so different. It doesn’t seem possible from that point of view. Still, uniting the party and getting a practiced campaigner on the ticket would have to be considered. Picking someone like Sebelius or Napolitano (for example) would be a lot riskier, despite any political similarities which might be there. [ Note: I don’t know those governors politics at all. ]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Lieberman: I think he would’ve endorsed Hillary if she was a shoe-in. But, now that her fortunes have faded it’s clear he had to go with the Republican most likely to keep the war in Iraq going. He seems to be a single-issue guy right now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Newsday says Bill and his partisans on her campaign are trying to sideline Mark Penn.</p>
<p>Of course, one of the stated reasons is supposed to be that he hasn’t let her unload on Obama.</p>
<p>Then again, I doubt they heard about this from someone with Penn’s best interests at heart.</p>
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<p>It’s curious they would have to think about this move. But then, they do tend to committeeize every decision over there.</p>
<p>If she wants to win, then how else but to show up the opponents mistakes, flaws, etc. I don’t even think the suggestion about Republicans attacking Obama’s cocaine use was really out of bounds. The magnification of it to include drug dealing wasn’t very nice though.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think there’s enough known about the candidates to decide. It’s just that the early caucus/primary state electorate haven’t necessarily been listening closely. At this point, just reiterating known things can be useful.</p>
<p>BTW, I’d love to hear some of the Repub talking pts. Obama has used. I’ve only heard a couple of his speeches and they’re pretty blase.</p>
<p>I wonder, if Edwards people have considered who he might want as a veep, would they consider Hillary at all? I wouldn’t say the heat of the campaign has been a problem. But, their politics are so different. It doesn’t seem possible from that point of view. Still, uniting the party and getting a practiced campaigner on the ticket would have to be considered. Picking someone like Sebelius or Napolitano (for example) would be a lot riskier, despite any political similarities which might be there. [ Note: I don’t know those governors politics at all. ]</p>
<p>On Lieberman: I think he would’ve endorsed Hillary if she was a shoe-in. But, now that her fortunes have faded it’s clear he had to go with the Republican most likely to keep the war in Iraq going. He seems to be a single-issue guy right now.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151017</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE A REPUBLICAN REVOLT AGAINST THEMSRLVES. BRING IT ON AND I’LL PAY FOR THE COD PIECES. YUK A YUK YUK YUK YUK MAYBE THE LAKE COULD HAVE A FUND RAISER FOR THAT!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE A REPUBLICAN REVOLT AGAINST THEMSRLVES. BRING IT ON AND I’LL PAY FOR THE COD PIECES. YUK A YUK YUK YUK YUK MAYBE THE LAKE COULD HAVE A FUND RAISER FOR THAT!</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/16/sucks-to-be-you-hil/#comment-1151006</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pweeis says:&lt;br /&gt;
the most important issues for America to survive;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) consolidated ownership of media MUST end and they must be broken up &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2) corporate “peoplehood” must be rescinded, a corporation may NOT participate in elections or politics, IF a person wants to participate, they need to disolve their corporation and they need to answer themselves for what they do&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;no corporate umbrella of protection to anyone who contributes to campaigns&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO MORE LAW FOR SALE&lt;br /&gt;
YES AND WE THE PEOPLE RULE BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITE STATES AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS IN THE JEFFERSONIAM TRADITION WITH UPGRADE FROM LINCOLN AND GET OFF OF THE OIL STANDARD OR IT IS ALL A MOOT POINT. IT IS TIME FOR ISREAL TO BE SELF RELIANT ANFTER 60 YEARS OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLAR SUPPORT PERIOD.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pweeis says:<br />
the most important issues for America to survive;</p>
<p>1) consolidated ownership of media MUST end and they must be broken up </p>
<p>2) corporate “peoplehood” must be rescinded, a corporation may NOT participate in elections or politics, IF a person wants to participate, they need to disolve their corporation and they need to answer themselves for what they do</p>
<p>no corporate umbrella of protection to anyone who contributes to campaigns</p>
<p>NO MORE LAW FOR SALE<br />
YES AND WE THE PEOPLE RULE BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITE STATES AND THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS IN THE JEFFERSONIAM TRADITION WITH UPGRADE FROM LINCOLN AND GET OFF OF THE OIL STANDARD OR IT IS ALL A MOOT POINT. IT IS TIME FOR ISREAL TO BE SELF RELIANT ANFTER 60 YEARS OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLAR SUPPORT PERIOD.</p>
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