A number of reports have appeared over the last few days that place the supposed “success” in Iraq in stark contrast with the reality. Just as during the long years of sanctions it was the children of Iraq who suffered the most from our disastrous policies, today – again – they suffer even more.
Yesterday, Aswat Al Iraq reported that:
Iraq’s anti-corruption board revealed on Saturday that there were five million Iraqi orphans as reported by official government statistics, urging the government, parliament, and NGOs to be in constant contact with Iraq’s parentless children.
As Khalil Ibn Hussein of GorillasGuides notes:
That is the figure the green zone government admits to, the real figure is a lot higher as many orphans are taken in by relatives and not registered, nor does the figure include the children with "only" one parent dead.
And, as Aswat Al Iraq reported earlier this week, these children live with severe trauma:
Unlike orphans in many countries in the world, most Iraqi orphans lost their parents around the same time and under horrible circumstances. In addition to their desire for compassion and care, those children need to overcome their sad memories and make a new beginning in life.
Recounting her traumatic memories, Halima, a nine-year-old girl who is living in a public orphanage, said that she lost her parents in a blast that ripped through a local market in a Baghdad neighborhood.
«We were shopping in a popular market in Baghdad al-Jadida neighborhood when a car bomb detonated. I still recall how bodies turned into charcoal,» Halima told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
Even those children with families who have managed to flee Iraq as refugees to Jordan, Syria and elsewhere (and these are often the families with the most financial resources) are facing devastating conditions:
"I have a 13-year-old who can’t read or write," said Azhar al Haidari, 47, an Iraqi who can afford to send only two of her four children to school in Damascus. "It destroys me. He needs to start from A-B-C, but he’s too embarrassed. He says he’s too old to learn now."
Haidari and her unemployed husband rely on their sons, Bassam, 13, and Ayman, 14, to bring in cash by doing odd jobs for shopkeepers. After household expenses, the couple can just barely pay school costs for their daughters, Mary, 8, and Inam, 11.
Haidari said Bassam was so jealous of his sisters’ ability to read and write that he stormed out of the apartment if he saw them with books.
"The other day, I was going over dictation with the girls and Bassam started yelling at me, ‘What’s the difference between me and an animal?’ " Haidari said. "He quits jobs on the spot when they ask him to fill out forms. He’s humiliated. He feels he has no future."
Along with the lack of access to education, Iraq’s refugee children face the most basic threats to survival:
Some 10 percent of the children of families surveyed are working. Iraqi children continue to fall behind in education with 46 percent of those surveyed reporting their children have dropped out of school.
The study also highlighted that 17 percent of those surveyed suffer from chronic illnesses, with 19 percent unable to take medication due to financial constraints. The research highlights the well-educated profile of the refugee population with 31 percent having a university degree.
And noting that the majority of refugees were fleeing the US “surge” (Of the refugees polled, 78 percent said they’d come from Baghdad, which has been the focus of military operations since the U.S. troop buildup began last February. Thirty-five percent said they’d fled between July and October, when U.S. troop strength peaked.) UN representatives note that conditions are growing ever more desperate:
“We’ve seen the poorest of the poor here,” [Sybella Wilkes, the Damascus-based U.N. spokeswoman on refugee issues] said. “We’re seeing more homelessness, child labor, survival sex, early marriage and temporary marriage. The floodgates opened in 2006, and the Iraqis who’ve come since then have been much poorer” than earlier waves of refugees.
As we head towards the holidays here, let’s make sure we take the time to remember the children of Iraq and speak up on their behalf. Donations to the Red Crescent are one good way to help – so is your continued work to end the occupation – now.
Update: Laura Doty points us to the news of the killing of another Iraqi reporter two days ago – a sad note to our discussion earlier today about Reporting Iraq. The details can be found here at Alive in Baghdad.
Update: Erdla of the GorillasGuides team has noted a charity which works with Iraqi orphans - Islamic Relief USA (a Charity Navigator 4 star charity) and Al Yateem (which is associated with Islamic Relief)
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Siun!
What a beautiful picture of Iraqi children.
Siun…there are no more words…only ACTION!!!!
The toobz are crazy toonite.
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Hi Siun Du is out cold on the sofa and I do not have the heart to wake him. Will you tell about those children or will I?
Erdla
#7…Megamalfunction…
Bushco is the weapon of Mass Destruction. Complete lack of compassion or regard for life.
Bushco is anti-children, anti-life.
End it.
Welcome Erdla! Glad Du is getting some rest … and that you are joining us.
Please – you should tell the tale … it is definitely yours to tell.
and folks, that lovely photo is courtesy of the GorillasGuides team.
(ps – I am having serious connection problems tonight – please forgive any lapses)
Great. Illiterate, uneducated, orphaned Mesopotamians.
Heckuva job, George.
Somewhere on a cold and lonely street in Iraq, and there is a child crying with no mama or papa. With no family. No home. Don’t tell me we have to stay there. Lord… what have we done.
Welcome Erdla!
lahoma and I are looking at the pix at the top. We love brown children. We love all children.
Siun, I work with refugee teens for a living, and they carry these kinds of scars forever. The focus of my job is their education and assessing educational gaps, but it is very clear that the conditions these children have endured affect them deeply.
Very few of my students have lost both parents. Most have lost one, and several were forced to watch the murder of their fathers. Those who have the luck to relocate away from the war zone arrive in their new countries with considerable emotional scars. Hard for me to focus only on how well they read and write and whether they have any familiarity with maps, graphs, etc.
What do we expect after starving, bombing, and illegally occupying a country for nearly seventeen years?
Hello, Erdla! I knew I recognized that photo.
Thanks for this, Siun!
TexBetsy – thank you for your work. The trauma these children face is overwhelming.
Stop the killing. Stop the infanticide. Leave Iraq. Now.
Those beautiful babies.
I had to hug the kid when I saw that. They look like kids she goes to school with.
How many children have perished since Bush and his enablers have invaded Iraq?
Siun I wish I could help these Iraqi children —- there are so many. My current group is about 50% West African, 30% Iranian Christians, a few Guatemalans and one boy from Burundi.
The original posting is here it was posted by By markfromireland, 1 month and 8 days ago
There are three photos – Oklahoma Kiddo go take a look at them and when you’re back I’ll tell you about all 48 of them.
I’ve taken a look. I’m back.
Great looking children. Tell us about them.
TexBetsy – the best things we -as Americans – can do is to support Red Crescent or War Child
and fight to end the occupation.
We had this discussion last summer with the Iraqi physician. What we have done to that nation’s people is unforgiveable. It is testimony to the human spirit that they are holding up. I believe if we get out and leave them to their own devices, whatever happens will be immeasurably better than what we are doing to them right now.
The republican party is the party of death and destruction. We need to push that theme, again and again, until it is drumed into people.
G W Bush is only the representative and enabler of his party.
“President George W. Bush’s foreign policy is in free fall and puts the nation’s security at risk, former ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton told a German magazine on Sunday.
Bolton, who was a leading hawk in the U.S. administration and favored a tough stance against Iran, North Korea and Iraq, told the Der Spiegel weekly that Bush needed to rein in Secretary of State Condoleezza ….”
Knut – precisely.
The Iraqi pediatrician was Maryam and she is a member of the GorillasGuides team.
OK Siun. I will next time I am on a computer that is wired. Don’t to credit cards on wireless.
5 million children with no parent.
LS if you’re here, thanks, hi, i’m fine……..i’m only sporadically able to comment since the change-RPG is working with me………but i haven’t been able to keep the page and comment for a while now, a month, and i’m getting mighty pissed about it, this is only the second time i’ve gotten a comment box, so i am taking advantage of it…….the first time was a test and i said supercalifragilisticexpealidocious…..any other time i’m just getting a page and no box, geeeeeeez i’m tired of trying it……so i am taking advantage of a comment box, is pissing me off to no end…….i miss you all, and hold the fort until i can be back here to comment with you….hopefully rpg can explain why in the hell i can’t comment anymore, no more money to blue america or fdl until this shit is resolved, that i can tell you……..knee surgury went well, but it totally pissed me off that when i came back, i can’t use the fucking website because of an upgrade…………i was an internet freak back in the days before it was discovered, back in the early ninety’s……..it was better then………..this sucks……….
go edwards.
love to all, a lot of new names……don’t know who they are, hope you are giving them new consciences…….just sayin………..
take care,
daynma
Siun, I see a fair amount of “child soldier” experience among my Liberian students. Most were “drafted” at 10 or 11. Any of that going on in Iraq?
I demand my government pull out of Iraq now. I am not interested in timetables.
$12,000,000,000 per month to kill children.
We have made mess of Iraq. And the longer we stay, the bigger the mess becomes.
Made a donation.
Every single one of them all 48 of them is an orphan. They’re all related – they’re all members of the Tamim tribe. They’re being looked after by a man who is distantly related to them. On on 24-6 -2005 their village was attacked by a death squad.
Seven people from this family:
Rahim Hussein Abdul-Hussein al-Tamimi,
Bashir Hussein Abdul-Hussein al-Tamimi,
Ahmed Abdel Hamid al-Tamimi,
Ahmad Saad Abdel-Hussein al-Tamimi,
Mohammed Ahmed Abdul-Hussein al-Tamimi,
Abdul Hussein Ahmed Abdul-Hussein al-Tamimi
and Ali Abdel – Hussein Ahmed al-Tamimi
Were murdered by having their throats slit in front of their families. Those children you see there. The attackers then took the bodies and dumped them in the fields.
At daylight the older boys. The ones in the second photo towards the left and the back starting with the boy wearing the top that says “kitkat” and next five boys along ran out into the fields and dragged the bodies inside.
They came under heavy fire as they were doing that.
This was at the time of an election campaign.
The village was attacked repeatedly and the family were forced to flee – to abandon their village and their farms (it was a farming coop).
During those attacks Shahidan, Hamdan Hussein Abdel-Majid al-Tamimi, , Ahlam Mohammad Abdel Hussein and his sons, Zeinab and Qasim, Salwa, Hazem Muthanna, Huda, Mustafa Nada, and Ayed Ali Abdel-Hussein Tamimi
were all murdered once again the children saw and heard many of those murders. All of them saw the bodies.
They were attacked again and burnt out of their homes.
Those photos were taken at the farm they now live in. Quite close to Balad Roz a few kilmetres from where they started out.
Nobody other than their relative and their tribe and a local Islamic charity has done a single damned thing for them.
Please don’t forget the children of Gaza.
Thank you eCAHN … I know it will be well used.
Folks may not know that many of the GorillasGuides team work with Red Crescent – so we know the work is well done and real on the ground.
Things were better before George became king. We must leave Iraq now.
UK has left behind murder and chaos, says Basra police chief
Blunt assessment delivered as British hand over security to Iraqis
Mona Mahmoud, Maggie O’Kane and Ian Black
Monday December 17, 2007
The Guardian
The full scale of the chaos left behind by British forces in Basra was revealed yesterday as the city’s police chief described a province in the grip of well-armed militias strong enough to overpower security forces and brutal enough to behead women considered not sufficiently Islamic.
As British forces finally handed over security in Basra province, marking the end of 4½ years of control in southern Iraq, Major General Jalil Khalaf, the new police commander, said the occupation had left him with a situation close to mayhem. “They left me militia, they left me gangsters, and they left me all the troubles in the world,” he said in an in an interview for Guardian Films and ITV…
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Portents of things to come more broadly.
but they hate us for our freedom??
We must leave Iraq now.
Yes a lot.
Bu’ush is gonna see to it that we cannot.
The former child soldiers seem to have twice as much to overcome as those who had different experiences during war. Just my observation.
It’s nice to know that George doesn’t “play favorites” with kids: he screws American kids by withholding any hope for health insurance for millions, fails to educate them with NCLB, while pushing to retain junk food in our schools (I guess to make certain they are obese and sickly so that they can avail themselves of insurance they DON’T have and CAN’T get)! Should it surprise us that he would screw Iraqi kids, too? Freedom is on the march!! It’s truly amazing what pro-life, compassionate Republicanism hath wrought … at home AND abroad!
For those who do not think we should leave Iraq, I suggest you go there and do what you can to facilitate a “peaceful” occupation.
Sent a copy of the photos & your text to my U.S. army efriend, with the subject: Proud yet? (That’s meant sarcastically.) My friend hates the war but every person in the U.S. military (and every American) bears responsibility and it needs to be rubbed in again & again what the human cost is.
Hang in there friend…the toobz are wacky…I know. Keep tryin’ and we’ll look for you!!!
We left ‘Nam. We can leave Iraq.
Ours too. It’s still relatively rare for very young children mostly young teens and up but it is getting worse.
I’m one of three non-Irakis on the “Guides” team. Just to give an example of the scale of devastation and evil that the American war in Irak has caused. Du posted this as a comment on “This Old Brit” blog:
We reckon – on a very conservative estimate – that it’s at least ½ million more and more likely to be a bit more than a million.
Just to give some examples from a few of the people who write on our site:
* Khalil (who posted that) is one together with his 2 sisters and 3 brothers.
* Mohammed Ibn Laith who also writes on our site is another together with his younger brother and his sister.
* Omar Khdhayyir and his family have taken in 8 children none of them older than 5 all of them cousins of theirs all of them orphaned.
* Nur Hussein Ghazali has taken in 12 children, 8 of them orphans and related, together with her widowed sister and her 4 children.
* Maryam runs several refugee camps for some just for children – the last time I looked which admittedly was a month ago about 90% them were orphans the remaining 10% the family was headed by their widowed mother.
* Um Thalit is a widow with children last year she took in her widowed sister and her three children.
I could go on but you get the idea…..
Just to note that what W has done to U.S. children bears no resemblance to what has been done by the U.S. to the children & all the people of Iraq.
Fush Buck!!
Siun, what are the chances of Americans adopting these children?
BTW- for the record, don’t infer from what I posted about Basra that I don’t favor withdrawal. We have made a problematic mess. There are no good outcome alternatives.
Oh God. What have we done in Iraq?
It is easy to give way to bitterness. I find that it sidetracks me, though. Thanks Siun for this reminder about the children and about the Red Crescent. I am passing out the Red Cross Red Crescent link everyday, and hope others will, too. On your facebook page, in your church or club newletters, or where/whenever even the merest crack of an opportunity opens up to let folks know that there is something concrete and necessary they can do to help. Thanks everybody.
That is complete and total BS and you know it. Since when does being starved bombed and shot at on a daily basis compare to anything that American children have undergone. 5 MILLION orphans in a country the same size as California.
To hell with you! You shameless – the word that occurs to me would get me banned.
Erdla
I know Siun. I look at those stats and stories and wonder how many I could fit on the couch, how many more sleep mats I can put on the floor around here.
BTW, anyone else who knows U.S. military officers should make sure to send them copies too.
I understand what you are saying to me. I did not doubt you. Your record (what you have said before) on these matters speaks for itself. ;0)
One way ticket to hell, and, BTW, they aren’t on the no fly list. How f’ing convenient!!!!
LooHoo – as much as we might have the best of intentions, I don’t think American adoption of Iraqi children is a good idea at all. And I say this as an adoptive mom of a Korean daughter. We have destroyed these children’s lives and are the last ones capable to help them find a way now.
There are many throughout the world – and as Erdla’s note show, withing Iraq – who will help. We do best when we send what support we can to those who work within these children’s own world and those who can raise and support them away from the trauma of America’s role in their country.
Siun I think that Loo Hoo and I are just thinking of safe places more than we are of changing their cultures.
Betsy – I know the feeling, I have a photo of some children from a refugee camp in Iraq which sits next to my photos of my two kids and I look at it daily – and let it remind me to keep fighting for them – and for their future in an Iraq they chose.
Thank you for reminding.
Those faces in the pics at the top. Jesus Christ, what have we done?
Erdia, as someone who has developed curricula and ways to help students with 5 year educational gaps to catch up on their learning, can I be of any professional help to any of your organizations?
TexBetsy – I know, I know. The great mom impulse is hard to reconcile with the reality of our world.
And I’m fighting here to help children orphaned by the war on drugs. Place is getting kinda crowded.
No, no, no. It’s Fuck Bush.
And we are poised to do genocide in Iran too.
laughing – TexBetsy! if only your house was as big as your heart!
Thanks…that was a major typo!!
Loo hoo the short answer to that is none. BUT for people outside the USA you can sponsor an orphan with Al-Yateem who are part of Islamic Relief the do very good work. For people in the USA Islamic Relief’s Orphan Sponsorship Program. is an option. They are very very reputable and do fantastic work.
no Siun — if only the refrigerator were as big as the heart!
I thought you did it on purpose to get by the mods.
Hmmm…I did…but Mary got by….*G*
Erdla – thank you for these! I was not familiar with them … will add them to the post so they spread around.
Does logic tell us that the longer we stay in Iraq, the better ‘things’ will get?
kiddo we need to leave and make it possible for Iraq’s neighbors to help Iraq re-build and care for the people.
Wait….hold the presses…I knew Romney had “produced” 5 sons (that don’t serve)….but…I didn’t know until this minute that….
Romney has a daughter too!!!
Are there any more????
I understand, dear Siun. It would be nearly impossible to communicate with a 15 year old Iraqi. But if the circumstances were right, I’ll bet that child (orphaned) would thrive here.
I have a Brazilian “daughter” by study, why not an Iraqi daughter?
TExbetty are you in texas?
Wait, forget what I said….it’s Thompson…
Erase me at 85….thanks????
Can’t keep track of the X and Y chromosomes in this “contest”..Yuck, yuck.
Yes. Texas. Why? He’s not our fault.
Thank you!
We have done some terrible things in our country’s short history. ‘Nam… and now Iraq. I am ashamed.
Why don’t you try getting in touch with Fayrouz Hancock her contact details are on that page. The reason is say that is that a lot of the Iraki refugees in the states are in South California and South Texas. They’re mostly Chaldeans (Christians its the Eastern “branch” of the Catholic Church) you might be able to do some helping locally. She organised the collection for Allan Enwiyah’s widow. Markfromireland helped. He was the interpreter for the Christian Science Monitor reporter and was murdered during her kidnapping.
The worst part of being a powerful country is watching that power being used to destroy.
GorillasGuides December 16th, 2007 at 7:20 pm @ 92 was for TexBetty
This needs to be out front and center:
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One thing I would like to see, is that just before we leave Iraq, we turn Mr. Chalabi over to the Iraqi people for proper justice.
Erdla – I remember Fayrouz’ work on that. A number of FDLers helped out when markfromireland told us of this …
great lead for Betsy!
Thank you. I will contact her. I work with three different Christian refugee resettlement programs in Texas, two of which are in southern Texas. I also have a model for educating families about the US educational systems which they might be able to use.
I’ve never had any dealings with her but I gather she’s very nice. I also gather her politics are a bit right wing but to be honiest I would work with the devil if I thought it would do any good and she certainly isnt him!
I totally understand what you are saying, but on the other hand, if I am going to support a child from Iraq, I want to know that it’s working. I just cannot trust any charitables these days. If the Iraqi government were to hope for help for orphaned children, certainly they would speak out.
Sorry, toobz problems:
AT THE VERY LEAST, FIVE MILLION IRAQI ORPHANS DUE TO THE IRAQ INVASION!!!
How can America sleep at night???? What is wrong with America?
Bush/Cheney….Blood on your hands…forever and ever….
I just love it when Erdla joins us.
Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, Cheney and Bush are the top tier war criminals. We’ll get to the second and third tier later.
Perhaps Hillary would like to adopt an Iraqi orphan.
This can never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever…be fixed…The parents of the children are gone forever. They will never know them…it cannot be fixed…They will never see their beloved faces or hear their voices in life….never….ever…
War Crimes.
I bet Hillary has room for more beds and sleep mats than I do.
The green zone government are a pack of murdering walking pieces of excrement. They do sweet f**k all for the children. Red Cross/Crescent or something like Islamic relief. I understand there have been a lot of charity scams but if someone like me can work with world vision for ***** sake …….
LS, but the children CAN be helped. They can be fed and educated and hugged and given the space for healing.
and LS – when I added the link to the folks Erdla mentioned, I noticed that Islamic Relief gets 4 stars from Charity Navigator … a very good sign.
Do the local mosques help with the orphans?
Loo Hoo I will email you with the contact info for the charities in Texas that are helping with refugee resettlement for Iraqis. (You can specify where you want your donations to go.) I can vouch for the work that they do and have many contacts throughout the state..
OMG, that would be nice. I do not want a young child to adopt, but someone 15 years+. Let me know how I can help. Adoption is not a priority, just a foreign exchange. (My own daughters are 21 and 19)
Yes big time – if you click our any of our tags to do with women or children most of the work is done by religious charities. Maryam for example heads one.
That’s been a big lesson for me – Iraki women are very tough.
Erdla, did you mean that MarkfromIreland was murdered?
Can anyone convince me that things in Iraq are better now than they were Saddam was running the show? I am very angry with Bush and his enablers.
On adopting:
Cheryl and I looked into it after 9/11 when we learned of 4 million Afghan orphans. We thought ‘we have a great life, great incomes, big house / empty nest, we’re as stable as they come, experienced with parenthood, why not?’
Forget it. First, non-Muslims generally cannot adopt Muslim kids. Second, it’s Scam-O-Rama Land out there, lotsa pukes looking to rip off well-meaning westerners.
Nope – he was helping to get support to the widow of Jill Carroll’s Iraqi translator who was a friend to many.
All women are very tough! But probably not as tough as Iraqi women. It’s a secret. Don’t tell anyone. Men are actually quite weak, which is why they have to carry lots of lethal equipment and start wars. Makes them feel big & important.
Unfortunately, to become prez, Hillary Clinton must be like a man.
OMG, Gorilla Guides.
I don’t think foreign exchange is an option – but you could try to find out if for example they know of an Iraki teen who would want a pen friend? And then see where it goes from there.
No – what did I say that gave that impression. Oh I see bad Englsih on my part. Allan Enwiyah is the person who was the translator. Mark (Dubhaltach’s father my father in law is alive and bad-tempered in Diyala. He’ll be in Irak until probably February
I hear a faint Native Indian’s sweet voice calling from up the stairs. She is suggesting that I say goodnight, Merry Christmas, and Happy New Year to each and everyone of you.
Sleep tight tonight, gentle people.
lahoma and me
Godd night kiddo & lahoma.
Southern Iraq “Close To Mayhem”
from Huff Po by The Huffington Post News Editors
The full scale of the chaos left behind by British forces in Basra was revealed yesterday as the city’s police chief described a province in the grip of well-armed militias strong enough to overpower security forces and brutal enough to behead women considered not sufficiently Islamic.
As British forces finally handed over security in Basra province, marking the end of 4½ years of control in southern Iraq, Major General Jalil Khalaf, the new police commander, said the occupation had left him with a situation close to mayhem. “They left me militia, they left me gangsters, and they left me all the troubles in the world,” he said in an in an interview for Guardian Films and ITV.
Khalaf painted a very different picture from that of British officials who, while acknowledging problems in southern Iraq, said yesterday’s handover at Basra airbase was timely and appropriate.
Tell him to keep posting in the humor section of the guides. What a nut he is!
has anbody here seen the PBS show on the infant mortality in Afganistan? i cried for 2 days straight.It is unbelievably sad and depressing.what has been done in americas name DEATH and DESTRUCTION
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do you know where the screen name comes from?
it’s short for “Mark from Ireland the follower of the Prophet Jesus Peace Be Upon him” which is what a lot of people he knows there refer to him as. You really have to work at it to be given a name.
The other name is “you lunatic Irish Bastard you almost got us killed” but only Saba Ali is allowed call him that.
sorry bobby.
IMHO, it goes down the chain of command: the top tier is in the oval office; the second tier is in the White House; the third tier is/was in the Pentagon and State Department; etc.
But there were many, many others in the fourth estate. And, IMHO, their guilt and responsibility are even greater than the first tier.
LMAO … thank you Erdla!
A mess, is it not?
Thank you, Siun. I am interested in really helping a teen. (my own kids are 19 and 20). Sending money doesn’t do it for me anymore, as I see no results. I would like to sponsor an Iraqi child, and see the results!
heres a link
http://www.pbs.org/independent…..ealth.html
Thank you Erdla, and is it appropriate to wish that peace be upon you? I suppose it’s too much to hope for, but we’ll try.
Feel free eCahnomics I’m a Danish atheist (and was raised as one too no flolekirke in our house!) But I’m not fanatical about it – someone wants to bless me with peace I’ll bless them right back. :-)
I don’t understand what you are saying, other than that there are criminals making money. A scam?
Best laugh of the day!
My typing is disastrous tonight bring back the “edit this commment” please …
From one atheist to another. Think it fits under the circumstances.
I am going offtopic for a moment – I want to remind everyone that tomorrow is the day Senator Dodd stands up for the constitution – please keep FDL up on your computers and be ready to help … we’re hearing a lot of rumours about how this will be handled by those who do not support the consitution so it will be an important day for firepups to have their phones at the ready.
O/T -
Dan Fogelberg died today.
:(
Too young. Only 56. Sux.
May peace descend upon Iraq as quickly as possible and may we do all in our power to help that happen. And may each of these children find love, healing and peace in their own hearts.
Erdla – thank you so much for your contributions here tonight … so much good information about ways we can help — and a great laugh.
Best to you and those lovely children – and to the whole Guides team!
No loo hoo – it’s late and I’m not being very clear. What I am saying is that the green zone government runs a lot of the death squads. They are also a crew of corrupt bastards but mostly why I despise them is they run death squads.
They do little or nothing for children.
What I am saying is that if you want to help then a charity is who is doing the helping.
Find a charity you trust and get in touch with them. TexBetty has made some suggestions. And I’ve suggested Islamic relief as that’s a very good one and might be able to put you in touch with a teen.
Siun thank you for this thread. Erdia, thank you so much for joining us.
While I agree, my unhappy prediction is that we are gonna get rolled on this shit too.
I emailed my senator — Harry Reid — to ask “what dirt have they got on you?”
In the wake of its
defeatdrawdown in troop levels necessitated by shortfalls in recruitment, U.S. forces arecircling the wagonscoalescing forces in the Baghdad area tostave offfocus on this war’s primary objective, the establishment of a soverign Iraqi government sensitive to western interests.Siun yes thanks for this. I’ve just seen this:
http://firedoglake.com/2007/12…..nt-1150687
and now understand why du had steam coming out his ears.
I been on Bu’ush’s case since before he went in.
http://www.bgladd.com/Baghdad.jpg
Fucking prick.
Gorilla Guides, would you like for me to check into legal ways for Americans to adopt Iraqi orphans? I know that this is not ideal, that Iraqis should be adopted by Iraqis, but if there are children without parents, perhaps the Iraqis would rather have American parents than none.
See my 116.
Erdla, I was going to respond to that in the last post, but will you pass on to Du for me that I think he is the master of the ironic understatement and the essence and soul of patience?
No Loo Hoo – you don’t need to. Apart from anything else. It would drive you to distraction. We paid an American lawyer to do a briefing for us. She did really good work but bobby at 116 sadly is right.
It was a major frustrating disappointment for us. We looked seriously long and hard into it.
BobbyG – international adoptions are such a complicated thing. I know that when I was adopting my daughter, I saw way too many people doing things that were very disturbing – not checking properly that children were really free for adoption, etc.
There are some very reputable agencies but it is not a straightforward or easy thing.
He is very patient :-)