Comments on: Three Gifts For The Carbon Lords http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:44:18 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1150390 MarkH Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:02:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1150390 <p>Maybe states need laws which require that for every so many new houses built that one of the non-insulated houses needs to be insulated. Put money in a fund for every new house built and use that to insulate the older ones which are lacking.</p> <p>Git ‘er done!</p> Maybe states need laws which require that for every so many new houses built that one of the non-insulated houses needs to be insulated. Put money in a fund for every new house built and use that to insulate the older ones which are lacking.

Git ‘er done!

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1150381 MarkH Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:57:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1150381 <blockquote><p>Conservation is the first thing we can actively take part in. NOW!</p></blockquote> <p>How’s the “replace the plastic bags groceries use” project coming along? Is there any solution to that landfill disaster?</p>

Conservation is the first thing we can actively take part in. NOW!

How’s the “replace the plastic bags groceries use” project coming along? Is there any solution to that landfill disaster?

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149982 Adie Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:47:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149982 <p>Thank you Kirk for a terrific post, and thoughtful, concerned dawgies for your wonderful comments.</p> <p>[Please imagine I inserted my daily tantrum here, but I’ll save you the trouble of reading it.]</p> <p>We and our fellow biologists started being worry-warts about climate change in the early 60’s.</p> <p>My honey & I are now retired, and have recently spent what little we had to “waste” to go visit some glorious rain forests in Costa Rica and Ecuador. Yes, “big oil” is there. Of course it is. The locals are resisting, but…</p> <p>Incredible flora and fauna. Wonderful trips, but nevertheless leaving bittersweet memories. We feel as if we’re saying hello and goodbye to every place we visit.</p> <p>This was a beautiful world. A shame. A crying shame….</p> <p>/rant</p> Thank you Kirk for a terrific post, and thoughtful, concerned dawgies for your wonderful comments.

[Please imagine I inserted my daily tantrum here, but I’ll save you the trouble of reading it.]

We and our fellow biologists started being worry-warts about climate change in the early 60’s.

My honey & I are now retired, and have recently spent what little we had to “waste” to go visit some glorious rain forests in Costa Rica and Ecuador. Yes, “big oil” is there. Of course it is. The locals are resisting, but…

Incredible flora and fauna. Wonderful trips, but nevertheless leaving bittersweet memories. We feel as if we’re saying hello and goodbye to every place we visit.

This was a beautiful world. A shame. A crying shame….

/rant

]]> By: jzornado http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149837 jzornado Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:09:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149837 <p>I think we’ve gone beyond the tipping point. It’s difficult to comprehend, like thinking about one’s own death–can we really have consumed ourselves to death on this planet? I think so. I’ve written a novel about all of this and it was just published and I’m trying to get some attention. Please check it out: It’s called 2050 Volume One: Gods of Little Earth. What will 2050 bring? And two thousand years from then who will rule the world? It’s Orwellian in tone, epic in form. Check it out at SpeculativeFictionReview.com, or Barnes and Noble, or Amazon. Peace.<br /> J.Zornado, PhD</p> I think we’ve gone beyond the tipping point. It’s difficult to comprehend, like thinking about one’s own death–can we really have consumed ourselves to death on this planet? I think so. I’ve written a novel about all of this and it was just published and I’m trying to get some attention. Please check it out: It’s called 2050 Volume One: Gods of Little Earth. What will 2050 bring? And two thousand years from then who will rule the world? It’s Orwellian in tone, epic in form. Check it out at SpeculativeFictionReview.com, or Barnes and Noble, or Amazon. Peace.
J.Zornado, PhD

]]> By: JamesJoyce http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149825 JamesJoyce Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:09:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149825 <p>money trumps merit<br /> ignorance trumps knowledge<br /> and the beat goes on…………………</p> money trumps merit
ignorance trumps knowledge
and the beat goes on…………………

]]> By: PhysioProf http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149525 PhysioProf Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:19:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149525 <p>Hi, Murph! Can I call you that?</p> Hi, Murph! Can I call you that?

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149516 Phoenix Woman Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:11:37 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149516 <p>Actually, this is where the end of the Age of Cheap Oil comes into play. Ian notes in the last thread:</p> <blockquote><p>In the new world, a world of <strong>microlocal production</strong>, or microlocal energy production where every building both consumes and produces energy; a world where design and manufacturing is simplified so that it moves into the reach of small groups of people or households, will allow many more people to actually offer the world whatever it is that they can make and produce. And in a world where the world is your customer – the odds of finding the people who want what you produce increases substantially, since if there are only a few thousand in the entire world that will be enough, while in the past unless those people happened to live near where you lived the market effectively did not exist. </p></blockquote> <p>With the end of the Oil Age starting to come into view, big-ass container vessels will be increasingly expensive (and likely a lot slower, if they have to rely mostly on wind power again). Suddenly, manufacturing in China and shipping everywhere else is no longer the cheapest option for CEOs looking to maximize their own swimming pools while yanking the rug out from under the local unions. </p> <p>Guess what? They’re forced to a) make it locally and b) pay living wages while c) we’re all better off because we’re learning to live within our planetary means.</p> Actually, this is where the end of the Age of Cheap Oil comes into play. Ian notes in the last thread:

In the new world, a world of microlocal production, or microlocal energy production where every building both consumes and produces energy; a world where design and manufacturing is simplified so that it moves into the reach of small groups of people or households, will allow many more people to actually offer the world whatever it is that they can make and produce. And in a world where the world is your customer – the odds of finding the people who want what you produce increases substantially, since if there are only a few thousand in the entire world that will be enough, while in the past unless those people happened to live near where you lived the market effectively did not exist.

With the end of the Oil Age starting to come into view, big-ass container vessels will be increasingly expensive (and likely a lot slower, if they have to rely mostly on wind power again). Suddenly, manufacturing in China and shipping everywhere else is no longer the cheapest option for CEOs looking to maximize their own swimming pools while yanking the rug out from under the local unions.

Guess what? They’re forced to a) make it locally and b) pay living wages while c) we’re all better off because we’re learning to live within our planetary means.

]]> By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149508 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:07:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149508 <p>Thers up with Wingnut Crap Of The Week, pups!</p> <p>Thanks for all of you for working to wrest our future - and the biosphere’s - from The Carbon Lords</p> Thers up with Wingnut Crap Of The Week, pups!

Thanks for all of you for working to wrest our future – and the biosphere’s – from The Carbon Lords

]]> By: Steve-AR http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149507 Steve-AR Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:06:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149507 <p>Not to be too grim, but is looks as if the tipping point for major climate change was about twenty-five years ago. Now the question is how high are the temp and tides going to go. When the ice begins to melt it real trouble. The heating is running past the climate models . Several years ago, scientists who said that there would be ice free Arctic summers in 40-50 years were laughed at, now it is probably going to happen in less than 5. The most grim predicting that I have seen from respected climatologist is that the Earth’s population is going from 6.7 billion now to 500 million is about 100 years. I hope someone is doing some disaster planning.</p> Not to be too grim, but is looks as if the tipping point for major climate change was about twenty-five years ago. Now the question is how high are the temp and tides going to go. When the ice begins to melt it real trouble. The heating is running past the climate models . Several years ago, scientists who said that there would be ice free Arctic summers in 40-50 years were laughed at, now it is probably going to happen in less than 5. The most grim predicting that I have seen from respected climatologist is that the Earth’s population is going from 6.7 billion now to 500 million is about 100 years. I hope someone is doing some disaster planning.

]]> By: Kirk James Murphy, M.D. http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149503 Kirk James Murphy, M.D. Sun, 16 Dec 2007 04:00:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/15/three-gifts-for-the-carbon-lords/#comment-1149503 <blockquote><p>Corn is not only important in the production of ethanol. It is becoming essential in the production of pork, the Washington kind.</p> </blockquote> <p>K Street is beachfront on the manure lagooon.</p>

Corn is not only important in the production of ethanol. It is becoming essential in the production of pork, the Washington kind.

K Street is beachfront on the manure lagooon.

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