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	<title>Comments on: Peggy Noonan: Ronald Reagan Wouldn&#8217;t Make It In Today&#8217;s Fundie GOP</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there are some people in the Republican party who are not terribly partisan, as their leadership has been. I think there are many in the Republican party who just want problems solved, national security handled and a good economy. I think those people have probably been very upset by Bush. They, like many of us, didn’t see it coming — and now wish it would disappear as soon as possible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some of them will be caucusing in Iowa and in other states have cross-over voting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope they see a Dem candidate that they believe could govern us all with respect for all. The larger our majority the more seats in government we get and the easier it will be to break logjams and solve many of the problems which have backed up. Hopefully this can be achieved with solutions acceptable to the vast majority of Americans.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It isn’t just about winning. It’s about making America a better place for everyone.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some people in the Republican party who are not terribly partisan, as their leadership has been. I think there are many in the Republican party who just want problems solved, national security handled and a good economy. I think those people have probably been very upset by Bush. They, like many of us, didn’t see it coming — and now wish it would disappear as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Some of them will be caucusing in Iowa and in other states have cross-over voting.</p>
<p>I hope they see a Dem candidate that they believe could govern us all with respect for all. The larger our majority the more seats in government we get and the easier it will be to break logjams and solve many of the problems which have backed up. Hopefully this can be achieved with solutions acceptable to the vast majority of Americans.</p>
<p>It isn’t just about winning. It’s about making America a better place for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Huckabee’s boubou:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;    Filed at 2:06 p.m. ET&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    BOSCAWEN, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said eliminating federal income taxes in favor of a national sales tax would help save Social Security — an odd pitch in a state where residents pay no state income or sales taxes.
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&lt;p&gt;A consumption tax does a couple of bad things: it would (presumably) tax poorer folks harsher than our current income tax would and it discourages consumption which would kill the economy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What we need more of is a tax to regulate the imbalance in wealth, but encourages commerce.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To that end a higher tax on income (of the Rich) and a lower (or no) tax on businesses would be better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Huckabee wouldn’t even be able to get Congressional support for his plan, much less the support of economists. It’s already been studied and aside from the “equal taxation” argument isn’t of much use.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>And Huckabee’s boubou:</p>
<blockquote><p>    Filed at 2:06 p.m. ET</p>
<p>    BOSCAWEN, N.H. (AP) — Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said eliminating federal income taxes in favor of a national sales tax would help save Social Security — an odd pitch in a state where residents pay no state income or sales taxes.
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<p>A consumption tax does a couple of bad things: it would (presumably) tax poorer folks harsher than our current income tax would and it discourages consumption which would kill the economy.</p>
<p>What we need more of is a tax to regulate the imbalance in wealth, but encourages commerce.</p>
<p>To that end a higher tax on income (of the Rich) and a lower (or no) tax on businesses would be better.</p>
<p>Huckabee wouldn’t even be able to get Congressional support for his plan, much less the support of economists. It’s already been studied and aside from the “equal taxation” argument isn’t of much use.</p>
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		<title>By: regularjoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>regularjoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
I wonder if our old friend Ronald Reagan could rise in this party, this environment…
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&lt;p&gt;I have no doubt that St. Ronnie would be right at home in modern Republican party.  In fact, they’ve been trying to replace him since he left office in 1989.  (What other explanation/excuse could be made for GrandPa Fred’s “candidacy”?)  They’re always looking for someone with great stage presence who can lie convincingly…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OTOH, if Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he would not recognize — much less be accepted by — the party he founded.  I’m the once Grand Old Party has degenerated into the party of Greedy Oil Perverts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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I wonder if our old friend Ronald Reagan could rise in this party, this environment…
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<p>I have no doubt that St. Ronnie would be right at home in modern Republican party.  In fact, they’ve been trying to replace him since he left office in 1989.  (What other explanation/excuse could be made for GrandPa Fred’s “candidacy”?)  They’re always looking for someone with great stage presence who can lie convincingly…</p>
<p>OTOH, if Abraham Lincoln were alive today, he would not recognize — much less be accepted by — the party he founded.  I’m the once Grand Old Party has degenerated into the party of Greedy Oil Perverts.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-monster-has-escaped-from-lab-id-have.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;She loved it in the G. W. Bush years, too, at least when it seemed to be working.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2007/12/my-monster-has-escaped-from-lab-id-have.html" rel="nofollow">She loved it in the G. W. Bush years, too, at least when it seemed to be working.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Atrios made an interesting point linking to this. He says its about class. Good insight, I thought.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atrios made an interesting point linking to this. He says its about class. Good insight, I thought.</p>
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		<title>By: ThadBeier</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThadBeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Blue Texan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You made my day, just imagining old Peggy reading your comment.  Not that it’s likely to happen, but it’s still a nice image.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to say that as much as I think she’s a disgusting enabler of the destruction of the country, the speech she wrote after the Challenger blew up was pretty nice.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Texan,</p>
<p>You made my day, just imagining old Peggy reading your comment.  Not that it’s likely to happen, but it’s still a nice image.</p>
<p>I have to say that as much as I think she’s a disgusting enabler of the destruction of the country, the speech she wrote after the Challenger blew up was pretty nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Quite interesting indeed. Thanks for the info.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite interesting indeed. Thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks. I knew about her background as a conservative, and about her husband and her subsequent transformation into a progressive, but I missed the Huffco part that QuakerGirl was talking about.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. I knew about her background as a conservative, and about her husband and her subsequent transformation into a progressive, but I missed the Huffco part that QuakerGirl was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankProbst</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankProbst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stop whining about it. You loved it when it worked.&lt;br /&gt;
—————–&lt;br /&gt;
She was probably writing it when it worked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop whining about it. You loved it when it worked.<br />
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She was probably writing it when it worked.</p>
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		<title>By: Biodun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Then there’s this, a real doozy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One day as a Cub Scout, young Mitt and some friends spotted a young girl across a set of railroad tracks, riding a horse bareback.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;”What do Cub Scouts do when they see a little girl on a horse?” Romney recalled in a later interview. ”We picked up stones and threw them.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fast-forward to a friend’s house party several years later, when Mitt Romney, then 18, spied the same girl, Ann Davies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This time, Mitt offered 15-year-old Ann a ride home, even though they came with different dates. Later he would confess he was smitten by the fetching teen. Their first date was all-American: a screening of ”The Sound of Music.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On another outing, Mitt and Ann joined others in using ice blocks to slide down hills at a local golf course at night.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;”We did that with a bunch of high school friends and got caught and got put in the paddy wagons,” Ann Romney recalled. ”He was just fun, fun, fun to be with him in high school.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Same link as my 39.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then there’s this, a real doozy:</p>
<blockquote><p>One day as a Cub Scout, young Mitt and some friends spotted a young girl across a set of railroad tracks, riding a horse bareback.</p>
<p>”What do Cub Scouts do when they see a little girl on a horse?” Romney recalled in a later interview. ”We picked up stones and threw them.”</p>
<p>Fast-forward to a friend’s house party several years later, when Mitt Romney, then 18, spied the same girl, Ann Davies.</p>
<p>This time, Mitt offered 15-year-old Ann a ride home, even though they came with different dates. Later he would confess he was smitten by the fetching teen. Their first date was all-American: a screening of ”The Sound of Music.”</p>
<p>On another outing, Mitt and Ann joined others in using ice blocks to slide down hills at a local golf course at night.</p>
<p>”We did that with a bunch of high school friends and got caught and got put in the paddy wagons,” Ann Romney recalled. ”He was just fun, fun, fun to be with him in high school.”</p>
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<p>(Same link as my 39.)</p>
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