According to the Politico, Bill Shaheen is stepping down as Hillary Clinton’s New Hampshire campaign co-chair after he went all concern troll and wondered if the Republicans would ask Barack Obama about whether or not he sold drugs.
In Shaheen’s resignation letter he says his remarks were entirely his own and not anything directed by the Clinton campaign. Which would probably be more believable if Clinton camp hadn’t spent the better part of the week pushing the cocaine story. While it’s possible that Shaheen was just an operative who went too far of his own accord, it’s also true that it probably doesn’t hurt Clinton in the long run to have the suggestion planted — in 2004 the percentage of caucus goers who were over 55 was 64% in Iowa and over 50% in New Hampshire.
Likewise, I’m sure her embrace of Slummy Joe Lieberman and his dire warnings about Iran video games had nothing to do with pandering to oldsters.
It’s all just a happy coincidence.
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Hillary has been screwing up. And I’ve got her bumper sticker on my back window…
Jane!
And good riddance.
Clinton might want to consider ridding herself of Mark Penn and Joe Lieberman also.
There’s still time for the Senator to get it right. Perhaps.
I’d still rather have HRC than any of the Republicans, as the next prez.
Whoofah. I hope that Billy Boy gives better advice to his wife or she’s gonna blow her Senate bid and we’ll be stuck with legacy hack Johnny-Cupcakes Sununu.
-G
spurious!
I recall Bill Shaheen’s endorsement being a very big deal when it happened, since Jeanne herself was staying “neutral” due to her race for Senate next year. It’ll be interesting to see how many engaged spouses of “neutral” supporters Hillary has to shed for speaking the campaign’s truth at the wrong time to the wrong reporters.
In other horse-race news, not-HillaryLand New Jersey had a non-binding caucus last week where Hillary neither placed nor showed:
My sentencing guideline for Shaheen’s crack would be more severe than what he’s gonna get….
707 !!
I absolutely dislike Joe Lieberman. How could the Hillary campaign make the mistake of not distancing themselves light years away from this man? I am of the opinion that its time for the Clinton campaign to make some major internal overhauls. It may too late.
Wow! These 10 Dems voted Nay on the Waterboarding Ban:
Danny Davis(IL)
Dennis Kucinich(OH)
Barbara Lee(CA)
John Lewis(GA)
Jim Marshall(GA)
David Scott(GA)
Jose Serrano(NY)
Pete Stark(CA)
Maxine Waters(CA)
Lynn Woolsey(CA)
Rerun for the evening crew:
Weerog the Geographer.
He’s pointing at the Iraq-Syria border. Not posed.
Sounds to me like it was part of some war-enabling legislation, which these folks always oppose.
So how does “pandering to oldsters” differ from “addressing the concerns of seniors”? Assuming of course that video games and Barack Obama’s youthful indiscretions are big concerns to seniors – which I question.
He’s already smarter than the Preznit, at least at geography!
Haven’t been around much–too much catching up to do! The only problem with trashing unsavory demo candidates is that we don’t want to harm their chances of being elected if (heaven forfend) they wind up winning the primary. But I sure wish she would dump Holy Joe.
Given that list, I would say those folks pretty much felt it was already illegal and that by specifying it, it gives cover to those who can point and say it was legal prior to this vote.
It strikes me that Lieberman’s face may be natures grand design to provide Bush fellatio.
Hillary Clinton perhaps doesn’t seem to recognize that New York is not necessarily representative of the rest of the country.
Waters is the one that surprises me here.
Took him all of 6 months to pass Chimpy’s IQ.
Hi everyone from Janenyc
Not to be a sockpuppet but had to reregister under a different name/email address in order to log in. Have tried a gazillion times with Janenyc.
Had no problem earlier today when LHP’s post was briefly up and then back down — commenting went fine.
Any ideas folks?
Ooh. Devious.
With the exception of the GA Bush Dogs, I’m inclined to believe it, however, Serrano?
I mentioned the following earlier today;
I used to think they were brimming with hope that hillary would be the candidate thinking they’d have a shot against her since they’ve amassed so much hate toward her over the years
however today on rush limbuagh he could not have more vile contempt for a person as he did for hillary and in the same breath had nothing but praise and respect for obama
it would seem to me they would rather run against obama then hillary
me wants edwards or kucinich though
This whole business of trying to connect Obama with drugs has backfired. It was a very cheap shot.
Shaheen takes a powder…
That LHP post is up right now. Sometimes there are burps in the posting process where something goes up ahead of schedule. I would wager that is the case with the LHP post
If you don’t logout when you leave, you don’t have to login the next time.
But Mark Penn is still running the show.
“And here is where Bush would like to have at least one permanent sandbox to play in. Sandboxes are nice places, but surely he can find one closer than this to Crawford. And it doesn’t have to be THAT big.”
Can someone update me on the status of Jeanne Shaheen’s senate run?
Blue Hampshire is an excellent source of all things Dem-Hampshiric.
Getting rid of Shaheen is fine. But that alone won’t solve the problem.
Iowa works in a similiar way with viability and 2nd choice for voters who 1st choice was not viable. I think this might bite Hillary and Obama as I don’t think Kucinich, Dodd and Richardson supporters will necessarily go to Obama or Hillary. Obama may also have a problem with the college crowd as the dorms are not open on Jan 3rd for most of Iowa colleges.
Oops. I misunderstood your question – I think eCAHN gave the appropriate answer…
punaise!
One thing that might help. Putting the Big Dog back in his kennel.
Ecah, she’s polling well ahead of John Sununu currently. But it is still early and we know things change.
However, Sununu is clearly one of the most endangered incumbents in the US Senate.
-G
Just logged out from this account and keep trying as Janenyc. It takes me to a screen with a security code which I faithfully type in. Nothing works.
Hiya Colleen!
I’ve toodled around there, but I don’t see a site search button, and otherwise you can’t find what you’re looking for.
Sometimes the mods and techies can help more if you tell them your browser and operating system.
So she’s definitely the D candidate? No primary challenges? If so, she’s not a BlueAmerica candidate & I’m wondering why not.
Perhaps Hillary would like to tell us ‘what she thinks’ rather than what her consultants think. That might be good.
I saw some poll a day or two ago that suggest that 80% of the voters wouldn’t vote for a President who used cocaine. I wondered why it didn’t say they wouldn’t vote for “another” President who used cocaine…
I think she scared a potential BlueAm candidate out of the race. And she is more of a DLC candidate than BlueAm
Thanks.
hey, TSF
There’s also Stop Sununu
Well, will Reid be able to get the full Senate to vote on the Contempt charges for Bolton and Rove? Then, will Mukasey enforce it…? Hmmm…
I submitted a question for Hillary or Obama that was not chosen at YearlyKos, and I would sure like the answer from both of them: “What role would Senator Joe Lieberman play in your Administration?”
There was a mayor of Portsmouth, who was quite liberal who stepped down when Shaheen stepped in.
There is still a campaign by a novice and a liberal, Jay Buckey, he’s an astronaut….
Shaheen is clearly the machine choice and there is little chance that Buckey will get much attention.
-G
Ambassador to Andorra?
OT, but Charlie Brown is having a birthday party in Roseville this evening. I will be putting up a diary on dKos at 6:30 PST to start the liveblog of Charlie’s party – he is taking on John Doolittle (CA-Abramoff). Will also have pictures and videos as the party progresses. Please rec up if you so choose :-)
Markinsanfran
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Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Sister Jane, I am very interested in how you as an activist woman and a progressive patriot feel about the rot that has become the Clinton campaign and whether or not you are angry about Mrs. Clinton institutionalizin’ the stereotype of the female leader as conniving shrew. I am honestly interested because I am part of a family that includes 3 adult women (50 years, 22 years and 19years) and each one seems to be disappointed and a bit angry at the shit Clinton is leavin’ in the path to full participation of women in leadership.
As I watch my youngest two prepare to enter the new world as professional women and as I watch my wife of 30 years battle the guardians of male power every day in her professional life, I get angrier and angrier at Mrs. Clinton for makin’ the fight for the women I love more difficult.
In a more general political and ideological sense, neither Barak O’Lieberman or Mrs. Clinton offer the opportunity to break the corporate hold on power from which all other economic and social progress will flow…but specifically, Mrs. Clinton has already made the fight for change more difficult for the women in my family.
I’d really like yer take on Clinton and her impact on the future for women in leadership.
KEEP THE FAITH, NUTHIN IS AS IT SEEMS ANYMORE!!
Thank you.
try google starting with “site:bluehampshire.com” followed by the search terms you want to use.
I just want to know if Hillary relieved Shaheen with a snort of contempt or if she bumped up the exit bonus in gratitude for doing the dirty work?
I observed similar behavior by the women who were the first to get partnerships or other high management positions on Wall St. Very inhuman behavior. Something about succeeding in a man’s world & what it does to yur soul. I suspect.
she lost a crack campaign staffer in Shaheen
Frankly, I would rather America’s first woman president, when she’s sworn in, have achieved the office on her own merits and not as a former First Lady. It seems so, well, Argentine. Haven’t we had enough banana-republicans this century?
Sounds like a snow job to me.
Gotta wonder whether Shaheen’s line came right out of the campaign’s talking points.
How ya doin bro? In a slight bit of good news for me. My friends son who is with 1/9 inf, 2ID touched down back in the world last night.
Of the 2% of all leaders of all countries in the 20thC, 3/4 were wives of or daughters of.
Pipe dreams are no way to tweak a campaign.
…by a razor thin margin.
BONG! We have a winner . . .
I don’t know what more Clinton can do. She has:
1) Issued a statement that she doesn’t condone his statements,
2) Personally apologized to Barrack Obama, and
3) Now gotten rid of Shaheen (which is not a small loss in Connecticut).
I think this should be sufficient to put the issue to rest.
I know others will disagree (I’m still waiting for Obama’s apology about the Gerth and Novak BS).
But I don’t just think this needs to go away because I’m a Clinton supporter. Every time this is raised, it hurts Clinton, but let’s not kid ourselves, it hurts Obama, too. I admire his honesty about his past drug use and I would like to see more candidates feel free to do that, but I’m not convinced that repeating the fact that Obama used cocaine over and over is good for Obama, even if it’s presented as a Clinton smear. I know the Clinton campaign would like this issue to go away, but I have to think they aren’t the only ones. Obama must want the last few weeks to be focused on his surge and his message and not on his drug use. I’m not an Obama fan, but I don’t want this election decided on this issue and if this doesn’t end it, it might be (and not in the way Obama supporters think).
I wish I had a brighter view of human nature, but the last two elections have convinced me that these kind of issues hurt the target more than the candidate whose supporters are pushing the story.
The MaliKKKontents will surely connect this to the liberal court reducing sentencing guidelines earlier this week
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) — One of seven men accused of conspiring to blow up Chicago’s Sears Tower was acquitted Thursday, and a federal jury in Miami failed to reach a verdict on six others arrested in the alleged terror plot.
The U.S. Attorney’s Office announced that the six whose cases ended in mistrials would be retried starting on January 7.
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Citizen Raven and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Great news, Brother Raven, every one of the kids that comes back gives us a little boost to carry the fight for another day. I hope you get ta spend some time with the young trooper…his path back inta the world ain’t gunna be easy.
Thanx for sharin’ the news.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THESE BASTARDS AREN’T GUNNA LEAVE UNLESS WE THROW ‘EM OUT!!
I think the point of most of the comments is that she shouldn’t have put him up to it in the first place, and now there’s nothing she can do to redeem herself. Don’t think there are many here who thinks she isn’t directly involved in dirty tricks.
Hillary’s NH team made the cut after blow. It’s nothing to sniff at.
-G
These were the guys that were going to take over America after they got some better boots.
What a fucking fraud.
-G
Yup, “these kind of issues” certainly hurt that Bush lad in his quest for the Oval.
And it’s New Hampshire, not Connecticut.
This story’s been shopped by Clinton operatives since summertime. Bill Shaheen brought it out into the open. It’s good for neither of them. (And that’s fine by me, by the way.)
“Flyin’ into Los Angeleeez
Carryin’ a couple a keys
Don’t check my bags if you please
Mr. Customs Man”
Right on, Wexler!
Wexler to Dems: Want a healthcare plan for children? Try impeachment hearings
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/….._1211.html
Amazing track dealing with the tremendous problems faced by many Vietnam GIs returning to a society which often had ambivalent feelings towards them – subtle, powerful and very moving.
Curtis Mayfield
Back in the World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
I say we speedball through the whole process altogether.
Hillary is nothing more than a facsimile of Bill wearing a skirt and Bush with red lipstick. Robert Rubin, the Clinton’s ex-Secretary of the US Treasury, the architect of NAFTA, and led the charge to repeal the Glass Steagall Act of 1933, quipped to Weill the then CEO of Citigroup “You’re buying the government?”. He’s now CEO of Citigroup and supporting Clinton. Clintons and Bush are owned by the investment bankers.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/…..emise.html
http://www.blogrunner.com/snap…..k_clinton/
Clinton supports policies that indenture the middleclass and poor in debt perpetuity to the banks and credit lenders. She will continue her husband’s legacy and the Bush’s of selling all of us as down the river
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Citizen BDBlue and the Firepup Patriots:
“…I don’t want this election decided on this issue and if this doesn’t end , it might be…”
Hopefully, this whole episode will have the unintended consequence of makin’ John Edwards look a lot better than either of the corporatist front-runners and I am hopin’ that it is the catalyst for the revulsion most activist Democrats carry toward the beltway politics as usual practiced by Clintion and O’Lieberman. I think that this incident with Shaheen is the end of Mrs. Clinton and, unfortunately, is gunna permanently smear Barak.
KEEP THE FAITH …GOOD THINGS HAPPEN TO THOSE WHO DO GOOD AND THE TRIANGULATORS WILL EVENTUALLY BURN IN HELL!!
Shorter version: Third Way = First (R) Way.
Edwards voted with the republicans in 2000 and 2001 for the bankruptcy bill and the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act of 1933. He’s also the front man for the banks.
You don’t think Jay Buckey can pull it off?
I think the rational is, if we vote to say it is illegal, was it legal before we made it illegal?
As I said last night, do you realize how many banks are HQ’ed in NC? Tell me how many Senators are going to piss off their states largest employers?
Rubin isn’t the CEO any more. Citigroup hired a new one yesterday.
Yes, and there may have been an immunity-for-past-acts clause as well. I’m just speculating here, but isn’t that how legislation is crafted under PelosiCo?
Marchand was the guy who stepped down. Shaheen is a DLC’er. I hope Buckey finds a way to get attention, even if he has to do door to door type stuff.
What is wrong with Americans? I am an American and I am 54 years old. Half of the Baby Boomers — who were really AGAINST the Viet Nam War — are over 54.
I have heard that Americans get more conservative as they get older. Is it true? Probably. All I can say is: I am honest (sometimes to a fault). But — as I have said before — all those I got stoned with in the early 70s scream that MJ is super-duper DANGEROUS now! Yes, I got stoned with them more times than I can remember, we were all in college, got degrees, and went on to have children, raise them, have jobs, etc. And we were stoners back in the day. Say what you will — way too many Americans are HYPOCRITES.
And I would tell them this to their face at any caucus.
Many of those same boomers are still smokin. I bet you 75% of the people in this country have tried it.
And half of those 75% will lie and deny.
Lots of people still smokin stuff. I’ve got both gooper and dem friends puffin. Doesn’t seem to change their politics.
Edwards by a landslide.
Shizola…I have to change my mind again???!!!
a year ago in jan 2007 the compost ran a story about obama’s cocaine use and why it might be a problem. The media is pushing this story
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..59_pf.html
It was(is) illegal…
Got that right!!!!
hahaha I didn’t smoke MJ from 1980 until 2 months ago. I didn’t want to be “out of it” when I had children. (I also didn’t get drunk.) But, with my children now grown, I tried it again for the first time in almost 30 years.
Somehow, it wasn’t as I remembered. LOL
Hi JaneNYC,
If you’re using Firefox, go to Tools, Options, Privacy, then check the box that says “Ask me before clearing private data.”
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Citizen RockPaperSizzors:
“Edwards voted with the Republicans in 2000 and 2001…He’s also the front man for the banks.”
Whoops…to go from 2 bad voTes (REALLY bad votes) to callin’ Edwards a “front man for the banks” is a leap that I won’t letcha get away with. The “front man for the banks” is the only candidate who has thus far stayed inside the matchin fund limits and most visibly has virtually NO corporate or bankin’ PAC money. Get it right, brother Sizzors, the two candidates on the Democratic side who are wholly owned subsidiaries of the banks and the neocon economists are Clinton and O’Lieberman.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T MAKE UP STUFF!!
Clinton and Obama. Demo rock and rollers. It’s all so ridiculous. Kinda like Madonna being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. Give me a break.
Thanks for your reply. Am using Explorer on an XP (Sv. Pk2) machine. Am really bedeviled by this. (sorry for the bad pun). You guys are a “bad” influence. ;-)
And Hillary “fronts” on many fronts.
I do not drink alcohol. I do not smoke butts. I can do both and kill myself in the process, but that’s OK and legal…….
I smoke a joint and I’m criminal and a terrorist according to America’s drug czar? Sounds Talibanistic to me??? Oh yes hemp was made illegal to protect white women from black men under the influence of marijauna, who would if given the chance, rape them. Never mind the drunk dad who came home hammmmmered and proceeded to diddle and molest their daughters, sodomize their sons and beat their wives, in many intances, to death…
Phew…so can I go back to liking Edwards again??? I’m runnin’ out of contendas…
I’ve been sort of drifting toward Edwards because of the top 3 candidates he is the only one who acts like he would actually push a Democratic agenda as President.
Jane’s new post upstairs will make you throw up.
Bad vote for Americans, great vote for the banks. Edwards would not allow relief for people who were forced into bankruptcy from medical bills. Edwards also sided with the entire GOP caucus to vote against the Wellstone amendment to the 2001 bill. This amendment would have provided an exemption for debtors who were forced to file for bankruptcy due to medical expenses, under the rationale that health expenses are often unpreventable and can be an especially debilitating cost to low and middle income families…Edwards rejected a means test amendment that would have protected debtors from sudden financial misfortune.
http://www.iowapolitics.com/in…..cle=102959
Time was when banks and brokerages were separate entities, banned from uniting for fear of conflicts of interest, a financial meltdown, a monopoly on the markets, all of these things.
In 1999, the law banning brokerages and banks from marrying one another — the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 — was lifted, and voila, the financial supermarket has grown to be the places we know as Citigroup, UBS, Deutsche Bank, et al.
But now that banks seemingly have stumbled over their bad mortgages, it’s worth asking whether the fallout would be wreaking so much havoc on the rest of the financial markets had Glass-Steagall been kept in place.
http://jre-whatsnottolike.com/…..ation-act/
Bad votes? I don’t think indentured servitude of the poor and middle classes to the banks and foreclosure of homes as two poor choices. Edwards is complicit.
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.” Frederic Bastiat
JaneNYC,
Come by later on if you’re free, and ask the more techie people to help. I’m not familiar anymore with IE.
I know it has been really hard for many people to register, though.
RockPaperScizzors,
Speaking of indentured servitude!
On November 15th’s CNN Democratic debate in Las Vegas Senator Clinton spoke of mandated national healthcare reform. Barrack Osama spoke of the “ability to pay,” mandated healthcare insurance premiums. Listen to the exchange between Senator Clinton and Senator Osama. “Mandated vs. the ability to pay!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBQigrJObwg
Nobody picked up on this and no further questions were asked providing facts or any real information. Massachusetts has reformed health care by the legislature “demanding” all citizens purchase health insurance. If you cannot afford it, you must still purchase it, or suffer tax consequences. Strong arguments exist for the law’s unconstitutionality. Serious ethical questions exist concerning the relationship between elected officials and healthcare interests in the state and nation. The deep pockets needed to litigate the issues do not exist for most and the ACLU who itself enjoys 501 c3 tax exempt status, will not litigate the matter on behalf of the governed.
Columnist Gene Pickham’s November 23, 2007 article, “Mandatory Health Care? Now That’s Sick,”
http://www.wickedlocal.com/mal…..1944247460 states:
“One would think that the ACLU would stand up to these violations of personal liberty. But so great is the zeal of achieving socialized medicine, that even the ACLU is turning a blind eye to a hole in these violations that they could drive a truck through.”
Pinkham’s article makes good points concerning Massachusetts’s Mandated Healthcare Reform, entitled Chapter 58. This is not healthcare reform. It is a fraud perpetrated by the legislature and corporate interests on the governed. Unknown to most is the “tax exempt status” within the healthcare industry and its “insulation” from change. For instance how many people know that in almost every state, HMO’s, and insurer, BCBS, and the like, are all listed as “tax exempt not for profit “public charities.” This determination is made by the IRS and is predicated on filings and review standards of “lessening the burdens of government.” Most people perceive “not for profits” to be along the lines of; American Red Cross, Boy Scouts of America, United Way, organizations that “give” to decrease the suffering of others, with no strings attached, enabled by contributions from citizens of America; not “very profitable tax exempt health related entities,” which are bankrupting Americans, forcing foreclosures, destroying the quality of life in America.
A system that uses a tax code penalizing citizens who cannot pay costly health insurance premiums to entities who enjoy tax exempt status is unjust. Pinkham article goes on to identify and even more troubling aspect of the entire process:
“But that was before the days that Political Action Committees called the tune that our elected officials dance to. Now those PACs in the medical field can contribute to candidates, as is reflected in Tisei’s last report to the Office of Campaign and Political Finance. To be fair, Tisei is not alone in reaping such contributions, and they are legion. Can a shameless declaration from a lobbyist in the health insurance industry, trumpeting that the legislature was bought and paid for, be appearing sometime soon in the New England Journal of Medicine?
Now the sad reality, to add insult to injury, corporate lobbyist operating under tax exempt status, PACs lobby our representative to vote for laws mandating that the citizen now purchase health insurance from tax exempt not for profits like Blue Cross Blue Shield. Something is putrid here. It reeks like decomposing organic matter. Odious!!!! It is a twisted plan which will further eviscerate Americans and extracts vast sums of money out of the population, while business goes on as usual. If national healthcare reform is similar, pack it up and go home. We need some good independent journalistic reporting here. It is a Trojan horse by design where perceptions have little nexus to reality
No one can argue with the logic of preventative measures for children, as it relates to future cost. No one can argue that nothing should be done. It sure can be argued that this alleged reform in Massachusetts is a fraud, perpetrated by the legislature and health care lobby, on the citizens of Massachusetts, by simply shifting the burden of cost to the citizen, insured, taxpayer, who has been subsidizing the health care for decades. Meanwhile corporate health interests which are well represented, by lobbyist, money, enabled by the state are destroying America’s middle class. It is difficult to understand how this assault on Americans, lessens the burdens of government, when the governed are being systemically “raped.” Sounds just like the King of England and his corporate cohorts in colonial crime ripping off the colonist under the color of law except this time the taxpayers are now told we must purchase healthcare under a mandate from the legislature conspiring in a continued rip off of the taxpayer in the absence of full disclosure, even at presidential debates.
Yea. It’s better.
If God had wanted humans to get stoned, he would have created marijuana
Stop stop, you’re cracking me up.
It is difficult to understand how this assault on Americans, lessens the burdens of government, when the governed are being systemically “raped.”
Thanks to Woodrow Wilson, We the People has been usurped by We the Banks.
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof,…..
The first misconception that most people have is that the Federal Reserve Bank is a branch of the US government. IT IS NOT. THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK IS A PRIVATE COMPANY. The FED banking system collects billions of dollars in interest annually and distributes the profits to its shareholders. The Congress illegally gave the FED the right to print money through the Treasury at no interest to the FED.
Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York.These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED…..These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank: First National Bank of New York, James Stillman National City Bank, New York, Mary W. Harnman, National Bank of Commerce, New York, A.D. Jiullard Hanover, National Bank, New York, Jacob Schiff, Chase National Bank, New York, Thomas F. Ryan, Paul Warburg, William Rockefeller, Levi P. Morton, M.T. Pyne, George F. Baker, Percy Pyne, Mrs. G.F. St. George, J.W. Sterling, Katherine St. George, H.P. Davidson, J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life), Edith Brevour, T. Baker.
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/FED.html
Guess what would happen if campaigns were publically financed?
“You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the eternal God, I will rout you out.” Andrew Jackson: To delegation of bankers discussing the Bank Renewal Bill, 1832
My big wish for New Year? Clinton back in the senate with her good buddy Lieberliar!!! Can not stand any more of the the experience candidate.
Jane, what good is an alternative media if it is just as biased as the one we left? Your distaste of Clinton is not unknown but surely you must have pics of Obama with Lieberman as well.
Is this quote of Obama’s in The Stamford Advocate accurate?:
There must be a pic of Obama and Lieberman. Or at least a co-sponsored bill.
I liked the picture
What makes you think she put him up to it? Maybe he and a few other supporters thought it would be Ok to point out that the GOP would use it against Obama. It’s not the first time a mountain has been made of a molehill.
What is it exactly that Obama is objecting to? That someone from Clinton’s campaign commented on the possibility that Obama’s prior drug use would be used by the GOP to swiftboat him or the fact that the GOP would swiftboat him? Somehow, I don’t think this works that much in Obama’s favor. He threw a hissy. She apologized. If he wants to keep flogging it, he does so at his own expense.
74% say most won’t vote for President who used cocaine
In a New York Times poll in June, 74 percent of respondents said they did not think most people they know would vote for a presidential candidate who has ever used cocaine.
“In the few polls that explicitly ask about cocaine use in a presidential candidate (as opposed to the softer more generic ‘Drug Use,’)” says one Washington, D.C. insider, “Seventy-four percent say cocaine use makes a person unfit to be president. It’s the highest negative apart from ‘no government experience.’ Put differently, never in the history of the presidency has a front runner openly admitted to using cocaine. So now that Obama is talking about the drug use more often, I am absolutely certain it’s because he and his team know that the cocaine issue is going to roar forward. It will be a major issue if he is the nominee.The GOP will ride it hard and he is trying to inoculate.”
Full article from Iowa paper on 12/6
If this sentiment is correct about EVER using cocaine, then this was a great move by Hillary. People have to remember best seller books don’t sell that many copies. Also the media is so ashamed of their past drug use they feel the topic is off limits unless there is some linkage to public duties. So now every paper across the country has the story that Obama used cocaine.
A respected person in her campaign had to do it or else it would have been ignored.
I give Sheehan credit for taking the public hit to his reputation. He can bounce back with a White House appointment.
I’m just being honest, so don’t kill me, but I’m honestly having a hard time feeling that I can support Hillary if she wins the Democratic Nomination, I don’t like the campaign she’s running and it just feel to me, that if she is in office, absolutely nothing will get accomplished, just bickering.
I’m wondering if that survey adequately seperated out those that would not vote for a candidate who admitted Cocaine use IN THE PAST versus one who wascaught or admitted PRESENTLY USING.
The way I read the question it would suggest to me CURRENT USE. Even I would vote against a present user.
I apologize…here is the actual NYTimes survey question. And it does say “ever used”…which would mean any past use.
39. Do you think most people you know would vote for a presidential candidate who has ever used cocaine, or not?
Would Would not DK/NA
6/15-23/07 22 74 4
So this question isn’t about whether the INDIVIDUAL SURVEYED would vote for a candidate. It’s about their IMPRESSION of a majority of of the people they know would vote. So really this is a survey question about PERCEIVED MODAL ATTITUDES…not actual attitudes. People who think that most people would vote against such a candidate but themselves might support that candidate actually would answer YES to this question. Anyone who thinks that 50% or more of the population would be biased against such a candidate would answer yes.
And there is actually no ranking of this issue in a list of nested priorities at all. It may be that this is not a very important issue…and that other factors could cancel out that (e.g. years since it last occurred, the forthrightness of admission~ whether the individual was exposed or raised the issue themselves, age at when it occurred, etc.).
We should all remember that it wasn’t Clinton or the Clinton campaign that exposed Obama’s Cocaine Use. The person who “outed” Obama was Barrack Obama himself. I think that this is a positive action by Obama to reduce the impact the exposure by others would have on his campaigns. But he, and his staff, need to realize that it will be raised by the Republicans. They should be ready to point out all the mitigating factors I’ve mentioned above, in addition to the fact that he’s been clean for nearly thirty years.
If voters are so unforgiving about such things then it doesn’t matter who is involved in raising it as an issue again. But Obama has to hope that he can CHANGE attitudes, not just hide from them.
This morning I called both Hillary Clinton’s Senate and campaign offices reeling over the disgusting tactics she and her handlers are using to discredit and derail Senator Barack Obama’s candidacy. Let us not forget she is still represents New York as a Senator and these reprehensible attacks on Obama reflect badly on all her constituents as well. Frankly, I find it embarrassing to see my representative, for whom I twice voted, engage in these kind of shenanigans. It shows the desperation of the Clinton camp…things slipping out of their control. I voted for the Clintons four times. No more.