Comments on: A New Entry in the Lexicon of the Bush Years http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:45:09 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: MrWhy http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1146166 MrWhy Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:53:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1146166 <p>Sodomizing children - the administration has sanctioned - is complicit in - child abuse and child pornography.</p> Sodomizing children – the administration has sanctioned – is complicit in – child abuse and child pornography.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1146165 MarkH Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:53:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1146165 <blockquote><p>Where the “evidence” against them is often based upon the confessions of others who have been tortured, but where the judges say they can’t reveal that because it’s secret.</p> <p>And we are somehow to think that such trials are “FAIR”?</p></blockquote> <p>“FAIR” is not the most important thing. Actually far more important is that Justice is done and that can only be achieved if proper procedures are followed. Accepting testimony received under duress is known to NOT produce the Truth and to NOT produce Justice.</p> <p>But, I suppose they aren’t really interested in Truth or Justice in the Bushie ‘Fantasy-based’ administration.</p>

Where the “evidence” against them is often based upon the confessions of others who have been tortured, but where the judges say they can’t reveal that because it’s secret.

And we are somehow to think that such trials are “FAIR”?

“FAIR” is not the most important thing. Actually far more important is that Justice is done and that can only be achieved if proper procedures are followed. Accepting testimony received under duress is known to NOT produce the Truth and to NOT produce Justice.

But, I suppose they aren’t really interested in Truth or Justice in the Bushie ‘Fantasy-based’ administration.

]]> By: brendanx http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145920 brendanx Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:24:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145920 <p>Doesn’t the warm puke of this “everyone knows where he stands, hasn’t backed down” argument ever catch in your throat? It’s inane and specious. By that logic Chamberlain was worse than Hitler.</p> <p>Here’s what “everyone knows” by now: he’s a liar and a mental defective. Hopefully we can impress on them that he’s above all a war criminal. Hasn’t “backed down” under invading a country under false pretenses with a too-small army. He’s a regular fucking profile in courage.</p> Doesn’t the warm puke of this “everyone knows where he stands, hasn’t backed down” argument ever catch in your throat? It’s inane and specious. By that logic Chamberlain was worse than Hitler.

Here’s what “everyone knows” by now: he’s a liar and a mental defective. Hopefully we can impress on them that he’s above all a war criminal. Hasn’t “backed down” under invading a country under false pretenses with a too-small army. He’s a regular fucking profile in courage.

]]> By: brendanx http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145910 brendanx Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:15:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145910 <p>Wouldn’t take his word for it? Did you see the address of the link, “waterboarding.org”?</p> Wouldn’t take his word for it? Did you see the address of the link, “waterboarding.org”?

]]> By: John http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145812 John Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:09:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145812 <p>Someone yesterday said it best: there is no Democratic Party in Washington, D.C. The nominal Democrats there, i.e. incumbents,<em> including the last bunch elected in Nov. ‘06,</em> are in the game for their own reasons and have nothing to do with the sentiments of the base, which I daresay sees an America that tortures as no America at all.</p> <p>And so we have it: no Democrats in D.C., and no America at all. </p> <p>During the next big war, our soldiers and citizens will be tortured on live TV and the world will say we had it coming. None of this will matter, however, because we will already have fallen so low.</p> Someone yesterday said it best: there is no Democratic Party in Washington, D.C. The nominal Democrats there, i.e. incumbents, including the last bunch elected in Nov. ‘06, are in the game for their own reasons and have nothing to do with the sentiments of the base, which I daresay sees an America that tortures as no America at all.

And so we have it: no Democrats in D.C., and no America at all.

During the next big war, our soldiers and citizens will be tortured on live TV and the world will say we had it coming. None of this will matter, however, because we will already have fallen so low.

]]> By: Kurt http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145766 Kurt Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:35:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145766 <p>Glenzilla, they do have a choice, I think that is why a large percentage of the posters here are utterly frustrated with the democrats. They seem to babble a lot about action, but end up doing nothing. They state their beliefs, then later rebuke them to fit whatever the argument is at hand.</p> <p>Not that I am a big supporter of Huckabee, and regardless if you agree with him or not, everyone here knows where he stands on just about everything. Where does Pelosi stand? Hillary? Harry Reid? </p> <p>Bush is another good example. I know no one here cares for him, but he has not backed down on anything relating to the Iraqi conflict (can’t say that for immigration however). How many of the worthless bills has the democratic congress put forward trying to defund the Iraq war? Every time they have failed to do what was needed, or to follow up with their rhetoric.</p> Glenzilla, they do have a choice, I think that is why a large percentage of the posters here are utterly frustrated with the democrats. They seem to babble a lot about action, but end up doing nothing. They state their beliefs, then later rebuke them to fit whatever the argument is at hand.

Not that I am a big supporter of Huckabee, and regardless if you agree with him or not, everyone here knows where he stands on just about everything. Where does Pelosi stand? Hillary? Harry Reid?

Bush is another good example. I know no one here cares for him, but he has not backed down on anything relating to the Iraqi conflict (can’t say that for immigration however). How many of the worthless bills has the democratic congress put forward trying to defund the Iraq war? Every time they have failed to do what was needed, or to follow up with their rhetoric.

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145764 bigbrother Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:34:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145764 <p>Morning;<br /> The two embassy attacks in Mombassa and Nairobi were retaliations to torture. The culture is vengeful. Why are our officials daring them? Do they want another USS Cole type surprise attack? This is insanity. The chain of command starts at the white house with the prezident. Impeach now. Today is moveon.orgs anti war protest.</p> Morning;
The two embassy attacks in Mombassa and Nairobi were retaliations to torture. The culture is vengeful. Why are our officials daring them? Do they want another USS Cole type surprise attack? This is insanity. The chain of command starts at the white house with the prezident. Impeach now. Today is moveon.orgs anti war protest.

]]> By: twolf1 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145746 twolf1 Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:22:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145746 <p>A long awaited <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/hrc-campaign-bringin-in-da-rove/" rel="nofollow">new thread is upstairs…</a></p> A long awaited new thread is upstairs…

]]> By: BooRadley http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145745 BooRadley Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:20:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145745 <p>Great catch.<br /> <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054750/" rel="nofollow">The Circle of Deception</a><br /> I’ve thought of that movie frequently since the topic of waterboarding “surfaced.”</p> Great catch.
The Circle of Deception
I’ve thought of that movie frequently since the topic of waterboarding “surfaced.”

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145742 selise Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:15:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/13/a-new-entry-in-the-lexicon-of-the-bush-years/#comment-1145742 <p>thanks for the typo correction. it’s bolten with an “e” - bush’s old chief of staff</p> thanks for the typo correction. it’s bolten with an “e” – bush’s old chief of staff

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