<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Republican Primary Disintegrates Into Ugly Sectarian Conflict</title>
	<atom:link href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/</link>
	<description>Firedoglake weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:27:24 -0600</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: SomeInternetPerson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144952</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeInternetPerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144952</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huckabee was a pastor at my grandmother’s church in Texarkana. She used to be a professional dancer long long ago, and even in her 70’s she would boogy at the drop of a hat.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    I was raised Southern Baptist.  Nobody ever, ever, ever told us we couldn’t dance, or that it was a sinful thing. We would have regarded someone who told us so as a religious nut. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I know for a fact that Georgetown College in Georgetown, KY was until the last year or so a Southern Baptist affiliated college and they banned smoking on campus (for women) up until sometime in the 60s and they banned dancing on campus until sometime I believe in the ’90s.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;    As at Baylor, formal dance functions were banned on-campus primarily for traditional reasons, not because Southern Baptists have a religious conviction against dancing itself. Dancing itself was permitted.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huckabee was a pastor at my grandmother’s church in Texarkana. She used to be a professional dancer long long ago, and even in her 70’s she would boogy at the drop of a hat.  </p>
<p>    I was raised Southern Baptist.  Nobody ever, ever, ever told us we couldn’t dance, or that it was a sinful thing. We would have regarded someone who told us so as a religious nut. </p>
<p>“I know for a fact that Georgetown College in Georgetown, KY was until the last year or so a Southern Baptist affiliated college and they banned smoking on campus (for women) up until sometime in the 60s and they banned dancing on campus until sometime I believe in the ’90s.”</p>
<p>    As at Baylor, formal dance functions were banned on-campus primarily for traditional reasons, not because Southern Baptists have a religious conviction against dancing itself. Dancing itself was permitted.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144753</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144753</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;the LDS “word of God as delivered by a talking salamander thing”.&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, there’s the talking serpent in Genesis…and sometime’s I think that the Bible was just warning us that it was just talking through it’s A*S&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“When the ass saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat her with his staff. Then the LORD opened the asses mouth, and she said to Balaam, ‘What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?’” (Numbers 22:27-28, NIV).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the LDS “word of God as delivered by a talking salamander thing”.<br />
Of course, there’s the talking serpent in Genesis…and sometime’s I think that the Bible was just warning us that it was just talking through it’s A*S</p>
<p>“When the ass saw the angel of the LORD, she lay down under Balaam, and he was angry and beat her with his staff. Then the LORD opened the asses mouth, and she said to Balaam, ‘What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?’” (Numbers 22:27-28, NIV).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: bystander</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144733</link>
		<dc:creator>bystander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144733</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Objection, please?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One would assume that most of the folks reading at FiredogLake would be immune, or have the appropriate filtering mechanism for:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Can you imagine what he’d do to &lt;strike&gt;the Muslim&lt;/strike&gt; Obama?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not an Obama supporter, and at the risk of being humorless, if we don’t want the WaPo to perpetuate or feed rumors, maybe we shouldn’t engage in this kind of humor?  Or, at least I assume it was done in humor.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Objection, please?</p>
<p>One would assume that most of the folks reading at FiredogLake would be immune, or have the appropriate filtering mechanism for:</p>
<p><i>Can you imagine what he’d do to <strike>the Muslim</strike> Obama?</i></p>
<p>I am not an Obama supporter, and at the risk of being humorless, if we don’t want the WaPo to perpetuate or feed rumors, maybe we shouldn’t engage in this kind of humor?  Or, at least I assume it was done in humor.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144726</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144726</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe Romney should use the same response as Huckabee when asked if Jesus and the Devil are brothers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I wasn’t there when he did it, so how he did it, I don’t know,” Huckabee said.”That’s an irrelevant question to ask me - I’m happy to answer what I believe, but what I believe is not what’s going to be taught in 50 different states,” Huckabee said. “Education is a state function. The more state it is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So Mitt could simply say he wasn’t there at the Creation, and it’s up to the States what to teach about this issue   ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Romney should use the same response as Huckabee when asked if Jesus and the Devil are brothers.</p>
<p>“I wasn’t there when he did it, so how he did it, I don’t know,” Huckabee said.”That’s an irrelevant question to ask me &#8211; I’m happy to answer what I believe, but what I believe is not what’s going to be taught in 50 different states,” Huckabee said. “Education is a state function. The more state it is, and the less federal it is, the better off we are.”</p>
<p>So Mitt could simply say he wasn’t there at the Creation, and it’s up to the States what to teach about this issue   ;-)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: whitebeard</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144715</link>
		<dc:creator>whitebeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144715</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Once he takes out Romney, he can run ads wondering if the Pope is the anti-Christ.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Unuh, that’s W, every clear-thinking apocalyptic knows that. ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Once he takes out Romney, he can run ads wondering if the Pope is the anti-Christ.”</p>
<p>Unuh, that’s W, every clear-thinking apocalyptic knows that. ;-)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: diogenes</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144613</link>
		<dc:creator>diogenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144613</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;And it’s perfectly fair game to ask for Rev. Huckabee to explicate:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here’s a list to get him started.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.baptistpillar.com/Index%20Directory.htm#Catholicism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.baptistpillar.com/I.....atholicism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it’s perfectly fair game to ask for Rev. Huckabee to explicate:</p>
<p>Here’s a list to get him started.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.baptistpillar.com/Index%20Directory.htm#Catholicism" rel="nofollow">http://www.baptistpillar.com/I&#8230;..atholicism</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: billinturkey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144592</link>
		<dc:creator>billinturkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144592</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because the Mormon Church is a recent creation, it seems pretty strange to non-mormons. Christianity probably seemed pretty strange at a similar point in its history.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I dunno: Mormonism seems way weirder than DVD players, the Internet and microwaveable popcorn, all of which have been around a lot less long.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because the Mormon Church is a recent creation, it seems pretty strange to non-mormons. Christianity probably seemed pretty strange at a similar point in its history.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I dunno: Mormonism seems way weirder than DVD players, the Internet and microwaveable popcorn, all of which have been around a lot less long.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: billinturkey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144579</link>
		<dc:creator>billinturkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144579</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Brian: “You are all individuals!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Crowd: “We are all individuals!”&lt;br /&gt;
reply&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Solitary voice: I’m not&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>
<p>Brian: “You are all individuals!”</p>
<p>Crowd: “We are all individuals!”<br />
reply</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Solitary voice: I’m not</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ptbridgeport</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144551</link>
		<dc:creator>ptbridgeport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144551</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another Christian chiming in here, on rwcole’s good question. The doctrine of the trinity was forged, with much hemming and hawing and difficulty, and altogether too much bloodshed, in order to try to untangle a variety of statements about the relationships between Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit made by scripture, statements which may not be flatly contradictory, but which were and are notoriously difficult to reconcile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As I’ve always understood it, the doctrine is not intended to be understood as a positive statement. It’s a verbal formula which rules out a number of discarded answers to the question of how the persons of the godhead are related, while leaving the final resolution open.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In particular, the “only begotten son” thing is an assertion that rejects the notion that ordinary humans can’t become “sons of god” with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereto; and also rejects the notion that once they do, they will be on a par with Jesus. That leaves space for a variety of positive characterizations, (potentially including the Arian position of Jehovah’s Witnesses)  without endorsing any of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Christian chiming in here, on rwcole’s good question. The doctrine of the trinity was forged, with much hemming and hawing and difficulty, and altogether too much bloodshed, in order to try to untangle a variety of statements about the relationships between Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit made by scripture, statements which may not be flatly contradictory, but which were and are notoriously difficult to reconcile.</p>
<p>As I’ve always understood it, the doctrine is not intended to be understood as a positive statement. It’s a verbal formula which rules out a number of discarded answers to the question of how the persons of the godhead are related, while leaving the final resolution open.</p>
<p>In particular, the “only begotten son” thing is an assertion that rejects the notion that ordinary humans can’t become “sons of god” with all the rights and privileges appertaining thereto; and also rejects the notion that once they do, they will be on a par with Jesus. That leaves space for a variety of positive characterizations, (potentially including the Arian position of Jehovah’s Witnesses)  without endorsing any of them.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: msmolly</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144529</link>
		<dc:creator>msmolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/12/republican-primary-disintegrates-into-ugly-sectarian-conflict/#comment-1144529</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amen, brother (er, or sister).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, brother (er, or sister).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
