If you care to debate point one (1), you are a sadistic sociopath. If you care to debate point two (2), you’re clueless and need to be educated.

CNN.com is currently asking if waterboarding is ever justified. Current score: 54% yes.

There was a little more to it than just waterboarding. The Japanese did things with Bamboo that I don’t even like to think about. They treated the Phillipino’s in ways that the resentment still resonates to this day. Your argument is not accurate, so I will skip the yes/no answer.

You seem to be very passionate about your beliefs, and even agree with your assessment relating to torture. This would apply in a perfect world, but in a perfect world, we would not have war, or a military in the first place.

Assuming you are USAF as stated, you probably hear jokes of pilots going down in places they are not supposed to be. I bet the stories conclude with them not being treated too well. For me, I spent 6 years in the navy, 3 of which was as a corpsman with the Marines. During this time, I didn’t wear any medical insignia during combat drills/operations. Why? We would be the first target enemy snipers would be gunning for. I don’t need to tell you what would happen if I was taken prisoner. Why am I telling you this? The Geneva Convention protects medical personnel against targeting as described above, and how they are to be treated if taken prisoner.

By the way, I don’t allign myself with the GOP as assumed.

Anyway, been fun everyone. See you at the next “saucy” posting :]

Good comment!

Kurt…so you would be fully in support of a bill that would exonerate (and apologize to) the Japanese men the US prosecuted explicitly because they waterboarded prisoners in World War II yes? If it is OK to do it now, it was certainly OK to do it then. If it is OK for the US to waterboard, then it most assuredly is OK for ANY country to do it. You MUST call for a bill exonerating those we’ve prosecuted for torture (waterboarding) or you would be just another Republican (or member of the Democrapic leadership): a goddamned hypocrite.

He’s all for torture…until it is he himself, or his sister, brother, mother, father, etc, on the receiving end for “suspicion of doing something” when it comes time for them to be waterboarded in a foreign country.

See Kurt, get this into your GOP skull. If WE can torture, ANYONE can torture and when anyone else does torture, there is no longer anything we can do about it. We cannot scream about it being illegal or immoral or unacceptable in civilized societies, blah blah. ANY country based on ANY mere suspicion of “wrongdoing” is now free to waterboard anyone and everyone (including you, your sis, brother, etc) and there can be no complaining from you or the US government. Since you are totally bereft of any moral center, take that into your practical, every-day-living center and accept the reality that what goes around comes around. Literally.

To rephrase, I would say in general, the spy’s out in the field didn’t know who each other were.

Ya I am sure you are right, they knew each other on the first name basis. We spend countless billions on the security of this country so the spy’s can go get latte’s

Actually many did know each other. They knew who were spies with diplomatic cover. That’s why the Soviet mission had to obtain special permission to travel more than 5 miles outside Washington, D.C.

And when you saw certain individuals expelled as “protest” it was almost identifiable spies. Then there was a counter-expelling of the other nations spies.