Jane!

Uh, Jane . . .

There’s nothing inside that last set of quotation marks. Am I missing something, or is it the post?

“…to me there is almost no creature lower than the pond scum corporate P.R. flacks who cover up the fact that their clients are hurting or killing workers, and then insisting over it all that the company is ‘committed to safety.’”

Well said…! ;-)

I still haven’t gotten over the Teamsters Union selling out to RMN.

Go SEIU! -And they are advertising on the Pats game!

Bedlam

Bedlam

dreaming of rain?

Union busting does not fit my definition of progressive values. Union busting does fit my definition of scum sucking bottom feeder.

There really is a line with regard to who you can represent and still continue to work for organizations who consider themselves “progressive” or “Democratic,”

Ding!

Freezing rain in my neck of bedlam.

From the post:

The AMPTP has stomped away from the negotiating table and won’t come back until the WGA will agree to cross the picket lines of other unions (with an eye to the SAG contract up next summer).

Union busting indeed. Speaking of SAG, there’s this from the LA Times:

Over the last several weeks, the Writers Guild walkout also has forced the postponement — and in one case, recasting — of several prominent motion pictures. Because their producers did not think their screenplays were ready for filming, Ron Howard’s “Angels & Demons,” starring Tom Hanks; Oliver Stone’s “Pinkville”; and Mira Nair’s “Shantaram,” starring Johnny Depp, all have been forced to postpone production, and filming of the next installment of the highly profitable James Bond franchise could be in jeopardy.

Brad Pitt left the movie “State of Play” because he felt the script needed revisions that, because of the strike, could not be made; Universal Studios last week recast his role with Russell Crowe.

(Emphasis added)

Somehow, I don’t think firing Brad Pitt for supporting the writers will help convince the WGA to buy into a provision requiring them to cross a potential SAG picket line next summer.

We have it (freezing rain) here too.

Perhaps Lehane could be considered a progressive in the sense that he is progressively selling his integrity to the highest bidder.

Freezing rain in my neck of bedlam.

Good luck and I hope the electricity doesn’t go out.

We have it (freezing rain) here too.

Another glorious sunny day here… ;-)

The view here is that there is an impression that my political party is no longer sensitive to the needs of organized labor. And that asessment is not something I care to differ with. The Democratic party has let workers down badly over the last several years. My party needs to change that. And rapidly.

I’ve got crawdad scampi and cast iron, non sweet, cornbread in the oven, and blackeye peas and iced tea for supper. Time to pull them out.

We have it (freezing rain) here too.

Another glorious sunny day here… ;-)

you do realize that means you’ll open your door to all FDL visitors, don’t you?

and Hawaii is on my list.

Talk about a circular firing squad. Seems the wingnuts aren’t nutty enough for some.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..gs.html?hp

Mi Casa, Su Casa… *g*

Well, good for Brad Pitt! Excellent. It’s a matter of sticking together, everyone. Nothing gets done and nobody gets rich unless people are valued for their work. Solidarity.

Palomar Mountain in San Diego County is covered with snow. Couldn’t believe my eyes when I woke up this morning. Just spectacular!

Yup. Demanding that one union cross the picket lines of another before you’ll agree to resume talks with them is as anti-union as you can get. A union couldn’t remain one by agreeing to it. It’s also absurd: any union that would agree to such conditions – talks, mind you, not closing a final agreement – would be as dumb as a post, purely as a matter of negotiating tactics.

This union’s guys and gals write some of the smartest scripts in the business, so this management just doesn’t want to talk now. It thinks that waiting is somehow in their interest. They must think we want more reality shows. May they have coals in their stockings.

From your link: “The gunman was killed by a member of the church’s armed security staff”

When it comes to churches, I’ve been around. I’m familiar with lots of parishes and denominations beyond my own.

I’m aware of churches with teaching staff, office staff, evangelism staff, outreach staff, youth staff, custodial staff, financial staff, technology staff, nurses and medical staff, counseling staff, transportation staff (bus drivers), and musical staff.

“Armed security staff” is a new one on me.

Could you please repost link to sending emails to producers of one’s favorite shows?

And I thought locking the doors to the chapel was a radical bow to modern times….

Lahane is just a working boy.

Guess it’s the new religion.

heh

That caught my eye as well. I wonder if it’s a post-Haggard innovation?

Peterr, this is chilling…

New Life Senior Pastor Brady Boyd said security at the church had been beefed up after the shootings in Arvada, but he did not elaborate and did not take questions.

”Fortunately for New Life Church, we had a plan in place that was put into play immediately,” he said. ”Our prayers right now are for the people that were injured and their families.

I show the widget for doing that on the FDL front page, upper right corner, under the search box and next to the top post (currently this one).

Our daughter lives in La Jolla. She complains when it dips below 70.

lahoma

The Glorious Bi-Partisan Revolution has occured, thanks to such Bush Dogs and Lehane and Howard Wolfson. We must thank Nancy Pelosi, Republican Speaker of the House, for keeping the K-Street Project, set up by Tom delay.

Nancy’s Chief of Staff, Terri McCullough is married to Howard Wolfson. Wolfson is doing a fine job working for the Hillary campaign. But his daytime job is as a genuine puke K-Street lobbyist. His firm Glover Park (3299 K Street NW) undermines the Democratic Party, as it catapults propaganda for Republican Clients:Pfizer, Rupert Murdoch, American Bankers Association, Microsoft, Verizon-opposing net neutrality, and many more.

I talked about it in some of the first posts I wrote about the strike, but the fact is that strikes can be very profitable for the studios on some levels. It’s their chance to trim the fat out of their budgets, get out of some deals they don’t want, and blame everything on the unions (putting pressure on the strikers, in the past forcing them to actually give up rights rather than get them). Happens all the time, something so fundamental to the studio business model we studied it in grad school. When they started firing the assistants several weeks ago — people who live paycheck-to-paycheck — it was obvious to anyone who knew the patterns that this was probably where things were headed.

get the word out, digg this post!
and spotlight it!

Our daughter lives in La Jolla. She complains when it dips below 70.

lahoma

My wife too… Of which it’s her B-Day today… We ‘celebrated’ last nite… 8-)

From an LA Times piece last Thursday:

As the writers strike continues, celebrities across the entertainment industry, most of whom can afford many months without a paycheck, are offering help, some secretly, to the others who live hand-to-mouth. . . .

Behind the generosity toward their more vulnerable colleagues, helpers are also hoping to keep spirits up as long as they can and maintain unity in a sprawling union characterized by wide class divisions.

“Everyone needs to feel writers aren’t just out here on our own fighting for our own issues. Members of all unions are affected by the strike,” said Marti Noxon, an executive producer of “Private Practice” and an organizer of a Dec. 14 comedy concert, sponsored by the Writers Guild, West, and the Screen Actors Guild to benefit the Motion Picture Television Fund. . . .

Solidarity can be maintained when struggling members of a union see the generosity of members who can afford it, said writer Robert Eisele, who participated in the last major strike in 1988. Back then, grumbling from both rich and poor diminished the cohesion required to face the networks with strength, he said. With enough help from WGA loans as well as outside sources, struggling writers should not be tempted to break ranks, he said.

Across the industry, reports that below-the-line workers had lost their jobs because of the strike sparked moves by successful writers to help. . . .

So far, the union is holding together better than it did in the past strike, he said. But as in the past, he said the other side’s strategy is “divide and conquer.” While the writers have succeeded in their goal of winning the “hearts and minds” of the general public, the networks and studios have been targeting writers themselves.

“They’re trying to weaken our will to get us to accept the worst possible deal,” Eisele said.

Sounds like at least some of those writers who have hit it big have not forgotten what it means to be living hand-to-mouth. Good for them!

Oops, thanks for the reminder. Put it at the top of the post.

Oh Jane! Why do you hate Hillary?

This issue has exploded on OrangeLand…to no good effect on anyone there. No surprise. Lehane seems like just the sort that Dead Loser Caucus folk love. No principles, costs lots of money, loses more than he wins.

Perfect.

Just as an aside I am reliably informed that Ms. Wunnerful Oprah runs a virulently non-union shop, it’s one of the reasons she has her own production company, which is good you see because that means that Senator ‘Hope’ don’t gotta cross no picket lines to hang with her.

Sweet? You be the judge.

Her company? Now in contract with CBS the well known ‘biased liberal media’…Er, protector of Mr. AWOL from the likes of Dan Rather.

There you have it: Oprah, Senator ‘Hope’, Hillary, Lehane, DLC….Hooorah! ‘Disaster Politics’ in action.

Totally off the topic, but it seems a little slow right now. Maybe I can ask and suggest. One thing about the new site format; is it all possible to have the main text fit the width of the screen receiving it? It is so annoying to have to scroll right to catch the last word, or letters of a word, and then scroll left to continue. The last format worked perfectly, in that respect.

I miss any information that would allow me to contact FDL directly by email.
You must trust that most would only do this if it were of significant importance.
Maybe I should frame it this way… while it was there, it provided a certain ‘personal touch’. A means of ‘two-way’ communication, and I believe that a simple thing such as that lends a lot to the credibility
that FDL is a ‘community’.

Thanks.

One of the unintended consequences of term limits in California was to increase the power of consultants and permanent staff in state offices.
The same applies to the political consultants.

Why are The Daily Show & Steven Colbert missing from the list? Otherwise, done my duty.

My personal feelings about unions are two-fold.
Collective bargaining is good, and needed in industries where the employer has an unfair advantage.
On the other hand, I have seen situations where an employer prefers to pay higher wages and benefits to maintain a higher level of control over operations.
Having had aquaintance with a couple Harpo’s employees, my perception is this is the case there.

The display works just fine for me, with no scrolling left and right. To help the techs, it helps to know what browser/operating system you are using.

And if you click on the “about Firedoglake” link in the toolbox to the right, you’ll find email addresses to contact folks directly.

Moving, while good and necessary from time to time, is never without its glitches!

Yeah, I guess I just don’t hate Edwards enough. Or something. I’m never sure what the argument is.

Wait ’til tomorrow, there will be seven diaries about how I hate Hillary. Oh I am seriously pissed and waiting for high traffic.

There is simply no pleasing people who go all Moonie over their candidates.

loiterer- What Peterr said above. Also, if you poke around in the tool box you’ll see that there is also an addy for sending “tips” to FDL.

(Sorry, that was in response to “ACitizen” above. Not quite so agile with the new commenting system yet…

I guess we better find someplace to put back in “bedlam is dreaming of rain,” huh?

I never realized anybody even noticed it. I loved it but I thought I was the only one.

What is it about Lehane that’s ‘Democratic’? Why doesn’t he just come out as a Republican? I mean, what’s the advantage of the mascarade?

Union busting seems to be all the rage. In Philly there is a proposal in front of the City Council that will allow nonunion contractors to bid on work the city’s convention center.

Philly is a big union town. There have been problems at the convention center with unions not working together, and some large conventions have voiced concerns about this over the years.

Opening the bidding to nonunion shops however will do nothing to alleviate the above concerns.

Council’s union challenge a gamble

Happy Birthday, Mrs. CTuttle!

Lahoma, I’m not big on the cold, either, but seeing the snow is strange and beautiful. Which school does your daughter attend?

I wasn’t sure how to read ACitizen’s comment. I was wondering if it was snark (the hate Hillary part)

(Sorry, that was in response to “ACitizen” above. Not quite so agile with the new commenting system yet…

*gasp* Even the Proprietrix…? 8-)

Rookie.

OT, but some may wish to know that Spanish TV, Univision, is having a Repub Pres Candidates Debate. I don’t speak Spanish, but the boos must be in a universal language.

McCain on withdrawal from Iraq — or not.

Some applause for Giuliani.

Huckabee on now; nothin wrong with health insurance in this country. Have to educate people in how to take care of themselves. Applause.

Romney speaking now.

OMG, it’s Thompson. Weak clapping.

Anybody who hablar Espagnol here who can tune in?

Off to dream about rain.

Ahem. How about letting the rest of us into the inside story.

I am in no way wishing to complain. It’s just that for the last three years or so, I have really appreciated FDL. I suppose I just don’t want it to get
any harder due to that fact that my eyes are as old as I am.

Thanks for directing me to the email info. Yes, I missed it.

Off to enjoy some duck gumbo — perfect for an ice-covered day. Mrs. Peterr’s been cooking it all day, and the smell alone really takes the chill off the whole house.

(No church this AM for me. Better to cancel worship on account of ice than schedule multiple funerals for folks who go off the roads!)

kos has a very funny liveblog, at least for the beginning.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…../56/419975

She finally graduated from San Diego State. Math.

Not a problem.

But you know, now that you’ve outed yourself and commented, you need to jump in again some time. Old or young, FDL seems to gather quite a variety of folks — with all kinds of things to offer the community.

Univision’s Repub Forum: Loudest, most general applause so far (YMMG) for Romney answering question about how to improve public schools.

It seems to me that there is more than a hint of irony in the WGA quibbling about being required to cross a union picket line. When my union, Studio Transportation Drivers Local 399, was locked out by the AMPTP during negotiations some years ago, not one union or guild honored our picket lines. This shameful list includes WGA, DGA, SAG, and IATSE. All of these loyal union members crossed our lines each morning in order to go to work with the miserable scabs hired by the AMPTP members. It should not require a lot deep thought to realize that truck drivers don’t have quite the juice of writers, actors, and directors. Some support from the guilds would have been a great help. The nearest thing to support we got was some of the actors and crew coming out during their lunch hour to ask if they could walk the picket line with us. Not quite as effective as not crossing the line.

Lest there be any doubt about where I stand on crossing the WGA picket line: NO union member should ever cross ANY picket line, for any reason…

PUBLIC schools at a R debate. Anathema.

A quote from a Bad Religion song that used to be on the top of the FDL masthead of old.

Univision R Forum: Giuliani playing the ‘I was poor’ card. Parents are the important factor in success in and of schools. Mine sent me to parochial svchool and made me wear a uniform. Widespread applause throughout audience.

Thanks. I’m a popular culture moron, so I wouldn’t have understood it even then.

This is sadly too true.

With any luck, we’ll be able to refer to those as the bad old days. Doesn’t satisfy you, but hopefully it’ll be better going forward.

Univision: Hmmm. I thought there were 5 Repubs on stage; who is this guy? Southern accent. Fair reception.

I’m trying to watch the Univsion debate but not having much luck.

http://www.univision.com/conte…..id=1276495

This might be a good opportunity to meditate on the difference between ‘Democratic’ and ‘Republican’. At my blog we see essentially none as far as Congressional Leadership and the DLC goes.

K-Street cash….both parties love it.

Oppose George W. Bush….neither party will do that.

Healthcare….La…La….La…I can’t hear you.

And the recent nail in Miss Nancy’s political coffin:

Torture…both parties knew about the CIA use of, and neither party ‘had a problem…’ with that.

End of argument.

Time to ‘Take Out the Trash’

Again.

And again until it’s all gone.

We now have two things in common. Rancho Cordova and daughters that graduated from San Diego State. Oh, and FDL. :)

There’s just not a better word to describe what we are suffering than BEDLAM. It’s so FDL!

Univision: Thompson: the Family, the Family.

McCain: vision for America … He’s not comfortable, knows he’s not hitting it out of the park with this crowd.

I need a Field Guide to Republicans: another aged man up whom I don’t recognize. He says, we need to go back to our principles, else we lose out freedom; restore rule by the Constitution. (I think he said that …) Whoops of agreement.

Romney says we let the Chinese and the Indians take over our economy in this Great Nation. Enthusiastic claque.

Like her daddy. That mathematical mind must be genetic. I can’t even sew. Too much geometry for me…I hate jigsaw puzzles!

This might be a good opportunity to meditate on the difference between ‘Democratic’ and ‘Republican’

D=R lite.

That might have been a good idea in the 1990s, but that era is past, like dead & gone.

Here in SW Oklahoma we have been up graded to ice storm warning. Duck gumbo? Never had it. Chicken/sausage, shrimp, crawdad gumbo of course. Lord I love me some gumbo! We are eating crawdad scampi as I type. ;0)

Kool.

Thanks Peterr,

I will jump in from time to time – no doubt, always have. I do admit to using different names. I realize there are people here, possibly from all
walks of life, and certainly from each age group. That is why I return.

It’s just that in my own possibly minimalistic view of life, it feels good
to see stuff like this out there.

So do you know what’s the difference between sleet & freezing rain (also happening here, 85 miles NW of Manhattan)?

I couldn’t get enough of those mud slugs when I was stationed in Lousy-ana… ;-)

Common courtesy to stick to one name. That way we get to know you, and you don’t get a tongue lashing.

Ahem. Regulars not changin names get toungue lashings sometimes too.

It often depends on which axis you’re looking at. On the rule-of-law axis (including international law), foreign policy, and Beltway bullshit, I don’t see much difference between the libertarians at the American Conservative (or antiwar.com) and the predominant views at FDL. But, I’m sure that if we were talking about economics, taxation, social welfare (e.g., healthcare), or even social justice, there’d be a wide gap.

Assuming you’re not being facetious, sleet falls as ice, freezing rain falls rain and freezes on contact.

Ahem. Regulars not changin names get toungue lashings sometimes too.

Ain’t that the truth… :P

“to me there is almost no creature lower than the pond scum corporate P.R. flacks who cover up the fact that their clients are hurting or killing workers, and then insisting over it all that the company is ‘committed to safety.’”

Just got here, but there’s another breed of sell-out I hold in utter contempt: we call ‘em ‘biostitutes.’ They are scientists with some kind of credentials willing to cherry-pick, distort, and outright lie (familiar) about biological and ecological research (published in peer-reviewed journals, by the by) in service to the corporate or exploitive interests that have hired them.

I live in Florida. They abound here, some of their number retired or otherwise departed from the agency to supposedly guard the state’s natural resources, alas.

All that said, skills and knowledge without an ethical framework defines the worst aspects of our species.

Hypatia, late to the party as usual.

Oh yeah. I like gator tail and frog legs too.

Stole my thunder. Nice to mix a little elementary science in.

That can be true!

That’s what I was going to say, but it would have been a guess on my part.

Would that be Manhatten Kansas?

I actually learned a few things in my long ago, 8AM, meteorology class.

Oh yeah. I like gator tail and frog legs too.

I’ve had frog legs, too, in a cafe in France… I’ve tried Gator, not sure if it was the tail, tho…

Depends on which Ds you’re talking about. Prez Clinton went very far R on the issues you mention. Thought that was OK for the times. (My cleaning lady in the country was the person for whom welfare reform was made. Transformed her into an entirely different & much better person [her view as well as mine] than she had ever hoped to be.) But those times are over yet Hillary is even more to the right than her spouse. And Obama is looking much more like his mentor, Liebeman, with every passing hour.

LOL. Not even close. Besides, I had no idea that there was another Manhattan. Seems like that name should be unique, like Paris. Yet I understand there is a Paris, Texas. There outta be a law.

With Gore a no-show, and, DK is a dark horse, Edwards is my guy…!

When I lived in Gainesville Florida we used to hunt them off the airboats at night on Orange Lake out by Micanopy. We’d dress ‘em out and fry the frog legs and bbq the gator tail. My gawd that’s some good food.

Better late than never.

I actually learned a few things in my long ago, 8AM, meteorology class.

Ahh yes, I love the smell of isobars in the morning .

You need to at least put a ‘New’ in front of it, say, like New York… ;-)

So prepare some evening & offer it to us all.

What is it about Lehane that’s ‘Democratic’? Why doesn’t he just come out as a Republican? I mean, what’s the advantage of the mascarade?

Just as there are no gays in the Republican party ( or Iran ),
there are no union busters in the Democratic party.

There’s a Perris, CA too.

I missed Meet the Press, just this once (!!), and now realize, with absolute shock, the Rudy doesn’t want people to know his client list. Wonder why?

And there’s a Miami, Oklahoma too.

I agree, and will try.

The bastardization of geography. A curse on it.

Wow! You really have lived a sheltered life! There’re also Paris, KY and Paris, TN that I’m aware of off the top of the head. Paris, KY is the county seat of Bourbon County and is just north of Lexington. A lot of thoroughbred horse farms in Bourbon County (but no bourbon distillers).

And there’s a Miami, Oklahoma too.

Ohio, too…!

Ya’ll come by and by. ;0)

Perris, CA. No doubt named after the intrepid commenter here by the same name.

Welcome.

I think Perris has been around for longer than Perris.

Paris Arkansas is right down the hollow from London.

Thanks.

Paris, KY is the county seat of Bourbon

Your comment would have been better if you’d stopped there.

Sheltered? Moi? World traveler? Guilty as charged. Been in gay Paree many times, but never in Paris TX, KY or TN.

They say NYC is just a collection of villages. Write your own punch line.

Paris Arkansas is right down the hollow from London.

Heh! Are ya prepared for Suz tonite? ;-)

Now I am really freaked out.

Lahoma wants me to say Merry Christmas or Happy whatever to each and everyone of you. Good night. OKk.

Exactly. The progressive blogosphere are closer to libertarians than they are to the Democratic candidates and congressmen on matters of rule-of-law, foreign policy, and their view of the MSM. Strange bedfellows.

Hell, I visited Paris, London, Warsaw, Berlin, and Cuba and never left the state of Kentucky…And Cairo was just over the river.

Like I said, I learned to duck and type early in my late nite exposure. ;-)

Aloha, Okk and lahoma!

Well, I meant to reply to OKK, but I guess there’s not getting rid of my reply to eCAHN. So Happy Holidays to all three of you!

A BIG difference between the Libertarians & the progressives in that the latter are NOT idealogues. Going back to the Chait thread.

Evening all. I must say I’m having a lot of trouble with the new format of reply without an option to quote. Many people aren’t referencing anything more than a line number or not even doing that, so it’s either I go back and forth continually or I read the comment, don’t remember/understand what it’s about and I go on. It’s a frustrating experience. I guess others must have better memories than I do. For me, it no longer feels like a conversation.

Now I am truly freaked. Old & New Europe, all in the same state, not to mention the Red Curse.

agreed. I’m lost most of the time – don’t know who said what. Oh, well, there’s always books.

I agree. Unless u copy & paste, you’ve got to be paying much more attention than in the old system. Besides, I just luv me those ziggurats.

True, we’re not hostile to new ideas and able to apply some critical thinking skills that are woefully lacking inside the Beltway…

FYI, new post upstairs

Here’s the NYT pic of the republican candidates at tonight’s debate. I’d just like to see Ron Paul with a bright green suit, and Ghouliani with a Hefner type smoking jacket. Romney Just the underwear would do.

Evening all. I must say I’m having a lot of trouble with the new format of reply without an option to quote. Many people aren’t referencing anything more than a line number or not even doing that, so it’s either I go back and forth continually or I read the comment, don’t remember/understand what it’s about and I go on. It’s a frustrating experience. I guess others must have better memories than I do. For me, it no longer feels like a conversation.

If it’s any help, I quote this way:
first I click “reply” to comment, then I copy the text I want from the comment I’m going to quote.

Then I go to the comment box and click the quote button. Now I insert the cursor between the blockquotes and paste in my text. It really doesn’t take much; and I agree, it does make following the conversation that much easier.

And Perris is much more sophisticated than Perris, unless one is into skydiving. ;-)

Evening all. I must say I’m having a lot of trouble with the new format of reply without an option to quote.

It is easy. Just “select” the text (hold left mouse button and slide over text), then “control+c” to save to copy buffer. Then go to comment box and “control+v” to paste copied text as desired.

“Preview” used to be my friend, and “edit” was also nice. But I do like the new interface. It is easy to get to Emptywheel. I have not quite figured out TBogg.

Ohio, Oklahoma?

Hello Greenwarrior!
And I agree with your comment about the new format. I find that I am referencing the previous comments to see what is going on.

http://firedoglake.com/2007/12…..oks-again/

Why are we calling Lehane a scab? A scab is one who does the work of locked out/striking employees to break the union. He’s not writing scripts.

He’s a what I like to call a pinkerton. A scumbag hired by the company to facilitate scabs and break the union.

That being said, fighting a no strike/no lock out clause to impass is a loser