After a whirlwind highly-qualified-contrition* tour of the media, the man who credits himself with convincing Karl Rove to move all the way to the right because the center no longer exists has landed at ABC News. Predictably, he's going to be providing us with his bipartisan view from the center.
Also predictably, from the first word quite a bit of it is, to put it charitably, less than thoroughly frank. To put it less charitably, it's a mess of spin and bullshit.
A Man in the Middle Looks at the Whole Wide World of People and Politics
Matthew Dowd has been a campaign strategist in races throughout the country. In 30 years, Dowd has worked for Democrats such as the late Sen. Lloyd Bentsen and Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock, and Republicans including Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and President George W. Bush, for whom he was chief strategist in 2004.
Sounds like a pretty well-balanced fellow, doesn't he, standing there in the middle? Useta be a Democrat, you know. Jumped the fence to work for Bush, because he just fell, politically, in love. He's been pimping that Mister, I met a man angle pretty hard.
Mr. Dowd said he decided to become a Republican in 1999 and joined Mr. Bush after watching him work closely with Bob Bullock, the Democratic lieutenant governor of Texas, who was a political client of Mr. Dowd and a mentor to Mr. Bush.
“It’s almost like you fall in love,” he said. “I was frustrated about Washington, the inability for people to get stuff done and bridge divides. And this guy’s personality — he cared about education and taking a different stand on immigration.”
...
Mr. Dowd said, in retrospect, he was in denial.
“When you fall in love like that,” he said, “and then you notice some things that don’t exactly go the way you thought, what do you do? Like in a relationship, you say ‘No no, no, it’ll be different.’ ”
He said he clung to the hope that Mr. Bush would get back to his Texas style of governing if he won. But he saw no change after the 2004 victory.
...
“I had finally come to the conclusion that maybe all these things along do add up,” he said. “That it’s not the same, it’s not the person I thought.”
Only, you know, not so much.
from a Times story (which presumably he finds accurate, since it's posted on his firm's website)
Mr. Dowd, who started his political life as a 13-year-old Nixon fan transfixed by the 1974 Watergate hearings (his parents were Republicans), said he became less enamored of the Republican Party at Newman College, a now-defunct private Catholic school in St. Louis. He credits Mr. Bush with converting him from conservative Democrat back to Republican when Mr. Dowd was working for Bob Bullock, the Democratic lieutenant governor of Texas who was close to Mr. Bush when he was governor.
According to Howard Kurtz, that disenchantment didn't cause Dowd to do anything wacky like vote for the Democratic candidate for president (Howie refers to him in the Washington Post article announcing his new job as "a Reagan supporter"). According to the guy who ran his college, it didn't even cause Dowd to leave the Republican party until after he graduated, got married, and went to work for Democrats.
Those Democrats were, perhaps not incidentally, the most powerful politicians in the party that had a lock on Texas state government at the time (presumably they seduced him too. He appears to have a bit of a problem keeping his political knees together). They lost that lock in the nineties. Soon afterwards, they lost Mr. Dowd.
By a remarkable coincidence, since their fortunes have waned, Mr. Bush and his wing of the Republican party have also lost Mr. Dowd (the nice thing about fungible virtue is that you can always get it back if the people you sell it to can't make the payments).
While they did have his highly-paid services (keep in in mind that a great deal of the money from the '02 midterms and the '04 presidential election flowed through his hands) he was, as digby points out, responsible for a great deal that was very, very ugly about how the Republican party under the political direction of Karl Rove did business (more on that here and here).
See? And we haven't even gotten to the article yet.
Faith: Finding An Authentic Place to Call Home
[blather, posturing]
Before you read much further, here's the bottom line: as one looks ahead to the primaries and the general election, the candidate who best understands the importance of faith in households across America and ultimately demonstrates authenticity will likely be the one taking the oath of office in January of 2009.
Faith and religion in politics has been misunderstood by many observers. When faith is discussed in politics, the discussion often defaults to an examination of the Religious Right or evangelicalism. However, this focus misses the bigger picture, as those much-discussed groups represent only a fraction of faith in America –- and successful candidates understand this.
More than 90 percent of American voters believe in God. This 90 percent includes Catholics, Protestants, Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists or whatever the church or community of choice is for that person. People rely on their spiritual foundation in decisions they make every day –- decisions ranging from whether they should change jobs, to the right medicine for their parents, to whether they should stay in a relationship, or to how one should treat the environment. In truth, for the average voter, Faith is often a more important factor than any economic calculus. And the high importance that voters place on authenticity when choosing candidate has its roots in an individual voter’s spiritual underpinnings.
Alrighty then. There are a few things about this that are remarkably interesting (not the least, of course, that the guy who ran the '02 RNC campaign and the '04 presidential campaign is aware that there are religions other than evangelical christianity). I found a a Harris poll with that 90% number.
I also found this Harris poll
Belief in God and Attendance of Religious Services
This survey found that 79% of Americans believe there is a God, and that 66% are absolutely certain this is true. Only 9% do not believe in God, while a further 12% are not sure.
While most people (55%) attend a religious service a few times a year or more often, only a minority of the public (36%) attends a religious service once a month or more often, with about a quarter (26%) attending every week.
Reducing "Social Desirability" Bias
These numbers – for belief in God and for attendance at churches, synagogues and mosques – are lower than those reported in many other surveys, we believe, because of the methods we use to measure them more accurately.
One of the problems with surveys where people are interviewed by people, whether face-to-face or by telephone, is that they may not tell the truth to an interviewer, if the truth is embarrassing or if another answer is more "socially desirable." This "social desirability" bias means that many surveys underreport the number of people who are homosexual, who don’t bathe or clean their teeth, who drink alcohol, or whose children are not immunized, for example. Socially desirable behavior, such as giving to charity, voting in elections and going to church are usually over reported.
Because our online surveys, such as this one, do not involve talking to interviewers, we regularly record lower levels of behavior (and belief) on topics where there is a "socially desirable" answer. We believe that the lower levels of belief in God, and the lower levels of church-going found in this survey are more accurate than the higher levels reported in telephone and in-person surveys.
Why that's kinda important:
Forget the gender gap. The "religion gap" is bigger, more powerful and growing. The divide isn't between Catholics and Protestants, Jews and Gentiles. Instead, on one side are those of many faiths who go to services, well, religiously: Catholics who attend Mass without fail, evangelical Christians and mainline Protestants who show up for church rain or shine, some Orthodox Jews. On the other side are those who attend religious services only occasionally or never...
There are exceptions to the pattern. African-Americans who often attend church are as reliably Democratic as those who don't. Frequency of church attendance seems to have limited impact on the voting patterns of Hispanics.
But among whites, the political differences that church attendance signal are striking. The religion gap now dwarfs the gender gap, Green calculates. In an election that was evenly divided in 2000, women chose Democrat Al Gore over Republican George Bush by about 10 percentage points. Frequent churchgoers chose Bush over Gore by 20 points.
That pattern held true even for voters who identified themselves as members of the "religious right," a group generally considered part of the Republican base. Bush was supported by 87% of those who said they attended church each week. But his margin plunged 31 points, to 56%, among members of the religious right who attended church less often.
So it looks as if the majority of [the less than 90% of] americans who believe in God, the ones who aren't regular churchgoers, trend towards Democrats. Who knew?
I'm guessing Mr. Dowd read that article. He's quoted in it, and he strikes me as a gentleman who follows his own press.
Another point: Dowd has a book out right now explaining that people have lost faith in religious leaders and it's really consumer choices that drive votes. Maybe he's fallen hard for a corporation.
Anyway, back to the blog post (I told you there was a lot going on here)
Americans, especially those attending Megachurches (one of the fastest growing Faith segments), faith and religious decisions are driven by a desire for community and fellowship. Their choice of a church is based less on theological principles and more on where they can find a community they trust and are accepted in and a place they can call home. This is why Megachurches today are one of the most diverse gatherings of people across the land.
Megachurches often include as many Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and their members and attendees cover the ideological and policy spectrum –- from socially liberal or moderate to conservative, from supporting of the war in Iraq to opposing it, etc. This fact has been miscalculated by many recent candidates, especially on the Democratic side, and as a result of it, they have suffered at the polls.
Um. Already on it, dude. You must not have heard. I know you don't follow politics that closely. Thanks for your centrist concern.
Also, in the book he said Democrats, all by themselves, were the majority of megachurchgoers. I got nothing about who seduced him on this one.
I don't know about you, but all this strikes me as coming from a place somewhat south and to the rear of the middle.
Just saying.
*He doesn't think anything he did merits being too apologetic. After all, "it does not mean that you somehow have to walk down the street in a hair shirt with a sign that says, 'Forgive me, forgive me, forgive me,' " he said. "We move on."
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My difficulty is that I’ve never understood exactly what the “middle” entails.
tobacco lobbyists would be the center to these people. they represent farmers and industry, and they believe in freedom of choice.
How does one win the middle of an argument? Who are the “middle candidates”? Does the “middle” mean compromise?
Hi Julia!
Matthew Dowd… Double Agent.
So the “center” or “middle” or perhaps “moderate” means different things to diferent people?
HAs there been a recent plausible poll done comparing Republicans to Democrats in terms of religious beliefs?
Offhand, I’m guessing nobody much outside the Bush administration (with the exception of Mr. Dowd) thinks it means ignoring everyone outside one’s own political base, which was Mr. Dowd’s strategy for Republican political ascendance.
I understand you point very well, and don’t disagree. But I still am confused about the definition of the so called “middle”. Who are they?
Actually, the 90% number came from the same year.
The most recent Harris poll is here, from 2006. It says substantially the same as the one I quoted.
“All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.” Thomas Paine
Hey yourself.
I suspect he’s working for the same guy he’s always worked for. It’s just that someone different is just paying him.
I just want a president who believes in the constitution.
Thankyou. It seems from this poll that “believers” are losing ground. In view of the fact that our presidential candidates, who feel it incumbent to profess belief in a Christian God; are these presidential contenders somehow missing the boat on this issue?
There’s a persistent story I keep hearing but haven’t been able to pin down, about the origins of “Hannity and Colmes”. Seems that when FOX News was originally looking for tame liberals to serve as Sean Hannity’s punching bag, they’d thought they found one in Joe Conason, as he is usually unfailingly polite. But once they discovered how devastating he is in one-on-one arguments, they quickly dropped him and chose Colmes instead.
Here’s an interesting rant I came across on the Oil Drum:
“The “freedom” meme has so completely supplanted critical thinking that discussion about any issue that requires restraint on the part of the people is shut-off.
This bumper-sticker mentality that screams, “We need freedom over planetary health, over our health, over every other creature’s health,” will inevitably cause the enslavement of the population in more easily seen ways — and all of it coming in the not too distant future.
The right wing does not want you to see that their agenda does not include 99.9999999 percent of the population. They do not want you to see that their every action is designed to limit your freedom to the choice between planet-wrecking product “A” and planet-wrecking product “B.” The right wing is the party of the uncaring rich. Their interests lie in lowering wages, reducing or eliminating health care, gutting environmental regulations, reducing safety rules, dumbing down education and limiting it. All in the name of the god “CAPITALISM.” They quite frankly hate you.
How do you keep that image from entering the minds of Joe and Jane Sixpack? Cause if they suddenly realized that they have been bent over without lube since Ronald Reagan, they would start voting for people who actually cared about them and the country and the environment.
To get rich, stay rich and get richer without caring, you only need to promise that anyone can be rich. This is the great lottery ticket scam. How many of you people would buy a lottery ticket absolutely expecting to become a millionaire? Yet millions of Americans believe that they can hit the capitalism lottery and play every day, paying through the loss of dignity, health, and environment. As one person noted, the lottery is the stupid tax. The Neo Cons (and “CON” is the right word) have spent the better part of 25 years rewording and retasking the word sets that describe reality. They have convinced the slaves that they are better off with chains, that they are better off sick, broke, ill-housed, racked with violent neighborhoods, poorly educated, and working as many hours as humanly possible. They have convinced them not only of that but that they should help to attach the chains and weld them on. The average Joe will defend to the death his right to live a crappy life in the one in a billion billion trillion chance that he will suddenly develop the intelligence to create that one in a billion product that will enrich them beyond caring just like their jailers.
So, to prevent the loss of economic power you offer the faked-up power of “freedom®.” So, if society at large asks you to sacrifice your AssHauler 2000 Bloatmobile in order to not kill everyone off, you scream, “FREEDOM®!!!”
If society asks you to contribute to the everyone’s health, rather than just your own, you yodel, “FREEDOM®!!!!”
And, of course, everyone says, “But what’s wrong with freedom?” Well, nothing.
But it must be limited. If your freedom causes me to die, then it must be limited. You do not have the freedom to pipe carbon monoxide into your neighbor’s home. Why should you have to freedom to pipe carbon monoxide into everyone’s home, namely the planet earth?
Capitalism cannot exist without growth. We cannot exist if it continues to grow. One of us has to go.
Your choice: all of the planet’s biota (including us) or an abstraction designed to kill us and enrich a few. “
That’s right. And perhaps a desire to adhere to the “Golden Rule” might be good too. ;0)
That compromise thing is how the middle keeps moving right. We compromise and they don’t.
I haven’t heard that but:
Conason does appear to have a gift for reducing flawd and incorrect arguments to rubble. I admire that.
I’m thinking I agree with you. And compromise to the Republicans indicates weakness.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!
Didn’t Harriet Miers say something similar? “I admire you” and Dowd “falls in love” with Shrub. It must be Shrub’s satanic charm. They must think he is the Burning Bush. Stunted Shrub is more accurate.
I’ve darn well had enough of “compromise” by Pelosi, Reid, HRC and other so called Dems.
Not trying to be a complete pig here, but Chimpy’s taste in women… sheesh!
As far as Dowd is concerned, he just wants to be on the winning side. The term is mercernary.
I am so tired of religion and this country being religious that if even partially true is reason enough to leave this place.
When will they be teaching intelligent design?
This is 300 years after the age of enlightenment and it’s time to go back to the dark ages. Thankfully the Rs are here to lead the way back.
I can’t wake up from this bad dream. Who woulda thought back then in the 60s we’d have come so far?
But who pays this slacker for his thinking? Really this is Kafkaesque on a new Kabuki production of the Wizard of Oz
That just brought to mind a bumber sticker I saw on a car across the street. It said when religon ruled the world it was call the dark ages.
Please oh please bring back the edit so I can fix my typos.
The polls show religion is in decline. The polls show most Americans want out of Iraq. The evidence shows there are no WMD’s in Iran. The polls show voters want change. In view of this, how does that square with the presidential candidate lineup we are faced with? My gawd.
I have never found anything good coming from institutionalized organized religion. These hungry cults thrive on fear, power, money, and preach bigotry, hatred and extermination. The most hideous torture and death was/is done in the name of religion. The Bible is the most violent book I ever read and studied. That’s not my god. My god is nonviolent. People choose their gods and the god they choose is in their image.
I’m goiong out to buy a box of dark chocolate. I’ll check with you beautiful souls later.
kiddo wonders:
It could be stated the the middle entails entrails, i.e., that which is left in the middle of the road after being run over.
Coming around again.
Good catch. What’s a helpless dancer?
If Matthew Dowd, an alleged political professional, didn’t know what he was supporting in 2004, then he’s a frickin’ idiot.
Though I’m leaning more toward him being a smart liar than an idiot.
I have NO sympathy for anyone who voted to give Bush a second term.
THE PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED SEE MY comment above at #15.
We are slaves who are delusional thinking we can be masters.
Yep. This “centrist”/”middle” crap is truly infuriating.
Because, Kiddo, we don’t count. Remember the mentality of our “leaders” so well stated by Henry Kissinger (the most evil person of the 20th century and still here) when the people overwhelmingly voted in Allende as President. HK architected the assassination of Allende and those close to him because the people made a bad choice when them elected him.
Let’s get back to basics.
What does the average american and the outlier american want from their life and their government?
My screen name is taken from the title of a song from the album Quadrophenia.
Here is one test for religion that it is flunking: the divorce rate. Link. Look at who is the lowest group: atheists and agnostics. The highest group among religions is the evangelical (non-main-line) churches, followed by the Baptists. Gee, Matt, looks like the DFHs have it all over your soi-disant believers.
I don’t even know what an average American is. To have this discussion we would have to have a common understanding of “average American”.
And what does that mean?
A couple with 2.4 kids?
Average is an imaginary point to be moved at any time depending upon circumstances. Stated another way, average is a moving target.
I think the answer is something like…
an interesting job which doesn’t kill them
leisure time and money to pursue other interests such as family, travel, hobbies whatever
healthy food, clean water, clean air and a clean environment
decent affordable medical care when they need it
Anything else???
No, I don’t think we count much anymore.
And the South has another definition. The average American wants to live in a religious environment, have religious values taught in public schools, a government that keeps them safe from terrorists, a segregated community, guns, limited free speech.
Kiddo, you count a lot in my universe.
((((FDLers & DFHs))))
Count a lot for me.
Not really.
I don’t think most think that, but surely some do. I think they are really outliers.
Matthew “fell in love with George W Bush” Dowd.
Gurgle.
When I heard he was gunna be on a panel with Donna Brazile, I laughed and laughed. Who wants to hear this pair talk about anything? I wouldnt get directions to the nearest Starbucks from these two, if they said the sun would rise tomorrow, you can be sure that it wouldnt.
These type of people PUSH themselves. They market themselves as “experts”/ suck ups / insiders.
Pulease.
Can we have someone who has some distance and intelligence instead of these self promoters?
He believed that Bush gave a fuck about education?? After what Bush did to public education in Texas?? Denial doesn’t seem big enough to describe it what he was in to me.
When a man is running from his boss
Who hold a gun that fires “cost”
And people die from being cold
Or left alone because they’re old
And bombs are dropped on fighting cats
And children’s dreams are run with rats
If you complain you disappear
Just like the lesbians and queers
No one can love without the grace
Of some unseen and distant face
And you get beaten up by blacks
Who though they worked still got the sack
And when your soul tells you to hide
Your very right to die denied
And in the battle on the streets
You fight computers and receipts
And when a man is trying to change
But only causes further pain
You realize that all along
Something in us going wrong…
You stop dancing.
It’s from the Who’s “Quadrophenia” album.
Merry Christmas from Lahoma and me.
Book Salon upstairs! Jon Chait.
The Big Con: The True Story of How Washington Got Hoodwinked and Hijacked by Crackpot Economics.
I’ll take the last post: Matthew Dowd is never to be trusted, ever.
He has no core, just an ample ego — always delighted to discover that what’s good for him at the moment is what’s right for the world.
Who knows, maybe God knows!
Moving the ‘middle’ to the right is one of the oldest tricks in the conservatives’ bag thereof. When they get way lucky, the ‘cons can even convince the left, such as it is, that the middle has moved. This ‘Man in the Middle’post is important because it exposes that particular skulduggery.
I definitely preferred Al Gore’s Love Story.
Dowd’s has too many salt pillars and drunken cowboy poetry.
The middle or centrist position is wherever you are, since no reasonable person can be an extremist. It’s a rhetorical game: you call your position centrist and point to your opponent as extremists, even if you are on the hard right and they are in the center-right . . .
The political spectrum here in the US runs from A to B, by the standards of the rest of the world, or it did before the authoritarian coup of 2000.
And mercenary is a great descriptor for Dowd.