Your modern GOP ladies and gentlemen…now determined to believe that the reason Bush isn’t popular is because he is neither dumb enough, nor war mongering enough. While people seem drawn to the fact that the Democrats don’t have a unified message and criticize them or even laugh at them, the GOP’s problem is that they have a message — an awful one.
War, what is it good for? Well, them.
To a certain extent Eisenhower’s warning has been gleefully ignored by both parties. They both love to dump money into a top heavy, hardware-based military that keeps the pork flowing to hundreds of Congressional Districts. But while Democrats uniformly love the pork as much as the GOP, the latter loves to watch shit done get blow’d up, blow’d up real good. Generating even more cash on the taxpayers’ dime. And now that we’ve pissed people off even more by bombing them, we need to spend even more money to keep them from swimming over here to bomb us — or in Lou Dobb’s world, preventing Mitt Romney’s Mexican gardeners from planting a bomb under his rhododendrons. For them, perpetual war is the thing that really does give life meaning — a constant state of paranoia and bullying. It’s also the great way to call their disagreeing fellow citizens traitors and browbeat them into submission.
And when reality raises its head, to the extent that even Bush has to accept it…well, that just won’t do:
Senate Republicans are planning to call for a congressional commission to investigate the conclusions of the new National Intelligence Estimate on Iran as well as the specific intelligence that went into it, according to congressional sources…Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) said he plans to introduce legislation next week to establish a commission modeled on a congressionally mandated group that probed a disputed 1995 intelligence estimate on the emerging missile threat to the United States over the next 15 years.
Golly, that sounds kind of dubious on the surface, can it be any more questionable? Why yes, voices in my head, it can:
While other NIEs have been the subject of intense criticism — most recently the 2002 assessment on Iraq’s program to develop weapons of mass destruction — critics of the new assessment are modeling their response after the clash over a 1995 NIE on ballistic missile threats. That document concluded that no country other than the major declared nuclear powers "would develop or otherwise acquire a ballistic missile over the next 15 years that will threaten the contiguous 48 states or Canada."
President Bill Clinton used the NIE to veto a fiscal 1996 defense authorization bill that would have required deployment by 2003 of a missile defense system capable of defending all 50 states, a project costing tens of billions of dollars.
But a congressionally mandated commission, headed by Donald H. Rumsfeld, who would become President Bush’s defense secretary, concluded in 1998 that the United States "might have little or no warning before operational deployment of a ballistic missile by a hostile Third World country." Its conclusions formed the basis for the Bush administration’s push for a missile defense system.
Ah, Reagan’s "Star Wars" that’s been a tremendous fraud-based cash cow for the arms industry in the name of incredibly stupid policy for a quarter-century now. So par for the course then, what a great precedent to follow, no wonder Rummy has so many ‘Medals of Freedom’.
The article then goes on to quote Norman Podhoretz (without mentioning he’s on Rudy’s foreign policy advice team) and Danielle Pletka, of the AEI who is paid to breathe and dream up awesome ‘World of Warcraft’ tournaments:
"The problem is not the nature of the intelligence, it’s the nature of the presentation. This NIE was presented with a clear intention to deceive and to redirect foreign policy," wrote Danielle Pletka, vice president for foreign and defense policy at the American Enterprise Institute, in an e-mail. "I have no doubt that these people believe they are protecting the nation from the President, but our constitution doesn’t contemplate the non-proliferation center at the ODNI governing U.S. national security policy."
I seemed to have missed that day in ConLaw I (or II) where Intelligence Analysis was even mentioned in the Constitution. But then again, I’m just a simple man who likes to contemplate and understand the world in which I live. As opposed to cutting out the middleman and blowing up the shit I don’t want to understand.
UPDATE: It’s early in the morning but I should not have missed it, one obvious point comes in comments from eCAHNomics, this is ‘Pearl Harbor Day’, which means the NIE will undoubtedly be cited on right-wing blogs with such a theme repeatedly. Probably accompanied by an incongruent picture of Neville Chamberlain (poor dumb "Conservative" Neville Chamberlain).



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Back in the mid 70s, we negotiated our way out of an ABM system with the SALT treaty. But the damn thing keeps coming back again and again.
I spread the word downstairs that you’ve got this thread up.
Damn, I wrote a paper on the SALT Treaty in my Soviet Foreign Policy course in 75 or so! Boris Ponomverev comes to mind. . .memories.
So, right after the child points out that the emperor has no clothes, the rest of the villagers circle the child. One accuses the child of having deep-rooted psychological problems that makes him prone to anti-social comments. Another says the problem is that the child looked up at the monarch when the morning sun was in the background, and the glare confused him. A third accused the child’s parents of exposing him to pornography causing him to imagine nudity where there was none. Finally, it is agreed that the entire clothes problem could be solved by gluing the child’s eyelids shut, and the emperor and his subjects lived happily ever after.
Good morning.
Sorry to go OT so soon, but Juan Cole has gone off on Romney’s speech to a degree that I’ve never heard from him.
http://www.juancole.com/2007/1…..-than.html
Good morning Attaturk and FDLers.
One could almost believe that the Republicans are still in control of Congress. I’m sure no Democrat will dare “put a hold” on this puppy and even in the unlikely event one does, I’m sure it will be overridden, with the support of the Democratic leadership and his other colleagues.
Finally, someone dares to mention and support the rights of the hated securlarists.
Ah, Bilbo.
It would be delightful to think that your comment would remain as ironic as it ought to be. But with Sanctimonious Joe around and the general lack of sex hormone producing organs among Senate Dems I don’t believe I’d bet on it.
Aha, does your War Party theme this morning Attaturk have anything to do with Pearl Harbor events?
http://www.harpers.org/archive…..c-90001869
I like where Scott Horton goes with this rememberance, (but then I’m a big Scott Horton fan), especially this sentence.
Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo and Krugman today. Bobo watched the MittBot 2.0 yesterday and says it is not always easy to blend an argument for religious liberty with an argument for religious assertiveness, but Mitt Romney did it well in a speech on Thursday. Mr. Krugman says Barack Obama is storing up trouble for health reformers by suggesting that there is something nasty about plans that “force every American to buy health care.”
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and I’ve got muffins with dried cherries and pecans. Have a good Friday, folks.
Thanks for that link. Very good stuff.
The next sentence is noteworthy too:
Burke passes the “great thinker” test. His words still resonate strongly 211 years after his passing.
Just back from reading that Juan Cole piece. Boy, he did a great job.
Wayne Barrett gets interviewed by the other Scott Horton, re Rudy’s terrorism ties.
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20…..e-barrett/
Good morning pups!
morning!
Good Morning everybody!
here’s what’s coming up on CSPAN, calls on early segment on the new mortgage deal
ON WASHINGTON JOURNAL
Friday, December 7
7am – Newspaper Articles & Viewer Calls
7:30am – Anna Escobedo Cabral, U.S. Treasurer
7:45am – John Taylor, National Community Reinvestment Coalition, President & CEO
8am – Todd Gillman, Dallas Morning News, Washington Correspondent
8:30am – Peter Orszag, Congressional Budget Office, Director
9:30am – Newspaper Articles & Viewer Calls
1,688 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Attaturk and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Full blown fascism is what we’re dealin’ with when tryin’ ta identify unifyin’ political principles of the Republican Party. When the ideology of rascism, xenophobia, religious nationalism and imperial manifest destiny are synthesized into political tactics, you have the fully mature fascist beast. Add the corporation as the alternative organizing mechanism to the democratic state, and you have Amerika today.
The only cure for infecteous fascism is a dose of radical democrazy…an old and crazy idea whose time has come.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, AND YOU BETTER HAVE MY BACK ‘CUZ i GOT YERS!!
OMG, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone looking for “farm film blowup” as a companion YouTube.
I’d forgotten about SCTV, loved the show
OT
Arshole Arlen, it’s going to wind up in Court anywhichway.
Boy, do I hate legal delays… What’s the status of the AG’s report
on Gonzo?
“Specter, who asked Leahy for a chance to revise the draft resolutions, warned that the whole matter could end in federal court, which is not something he wants to occur.
“It continues to be my hope that this matter could be resolved without litigation,” Specter said, although he added that he would back Leahy’s effort to enforce the committee’s subpoenas.”
And to find it in its condensed Republicanesque six-second essence too. I was really happy to find that.
yes. but at least consideration of specter’s fisa bill was also delayed until next week. which may mean (if we’re lucky) that fisa won’t come to a vote on the senate floor until christy is back from her vacation. *g*
Mornin’, gang -
Wrt mittens: given a few more investigations, he’s gonna be forced to drop out of the campaign and go home to do his own property maintenance…CNN reporting there are questions whether a painting company he hired was using undocumented workers. *g*
We asked them to wait for just that reason.
This is a grrreat post, Attaturk!
The Republicans really are the war party, it’s shocking how happy they are to bombs away; and yet when called to actually serve, manage to have better things to do than defend the nation.
digg it!
Mitt Romney:
So, the unreligious have no right to freedom. What a smug, arrogant, condescending prick!
(BTW, Olbermann pointed out that that’s the same John Adams who was responsible for the notorious Alien and Sedition Act.)
ot – i love it when the blogosphere pushes back on the msm (see klein, joe) when they get it wrong and won’t retract. but what do we do when the blogosphere gets is wrong and won’t retract (or even acknowledge that a whole bunch of people are telling them they are wrong)?
i am so bummed this morning.
When the corporations realized how much money was to be made in war, they set off on a program to make war, defense, fear and so forth the cause celebre for the gov. We needed to be strong, to fight for democracy, to defend our shores, to make the world safe for democracy and all the other rubbish. It’s all about MONEY.
The turned the press into corporations which would convey their “message”… brain wash the people.. which give us all the tags lines to latch onto as the people are made into consuming and pliant bots… defending America, doing their “service” in the military, on the weapon’s assembly lines and so forth.
NONE of the countries that we have engaged in the last 60 years including the USSR was a threat to this country. No nation is going to stand up an army and invade our shores as we Hitler did as he marched into France, Austria, Poland and Russia. There is nothing here of interest anymore. Our manufacturing capacity has all been taken offshore in the name of corporate profits. What could Iran or North Korea, or Cuba or Haiti, or Libya or any of our “enemies” or nations we attacked want with Kansas, or New York, or Cape Cod? Answer – NOTHING.
People around the world simply want to live in peace, with some “pleasure”, and of course free from oppression. They need work to obtain the necessities of life.
Transnational corporations have only one purpose – to make profits. And unlike governments which ostensibly are there to serve their people and provide for the commons, corporations serve their owners in the form of wealth.
D’s, R’s labor, Tories… it’s all about the money. Follow the money. Money makes the world go round is the source of all social problems. We no longer seek solutions, but the money to buy “treats”. Right?
in the ’90s the republicans were the party arguing against bombing people – since it was clinton doing the bombing.
Whom do you have in mind?
well, my question was general.. since i’m sure the issue will come up again (being that even bloggers are human).
this time it was prompted by kevin drum and steve benen at c&l claiming that cap and trade is the same thing as a carbon tax (in defense of the dem presidential candidates when friedman calls them out)…. which all has the added distaste of having to defend flat earth friedman. uck.
I should have stayed asleep. On “Mornin Joe”, Joe is awed by the Willard Romney defense of Christianity. David Shuster called it “frightening”.
The Government Controlled Washington Post has another neo-con rewriting history. Richard Armitage catapults the propaganda. He helped the war effort by illegally revealing Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings.
He sounds more liberal than Nancy Pelosi. But deterring Iran’s nuclear ambition was sabotaged by Armitage, working for Cheney. When the neo-cons want to improve people’s lives, duck and cover.
That is so funny: neo-cons worrying about world opinion. But what happened the the Great Battle Of Civilization Versus The Bad Guys Who Hate Our Freedom?
This does make me mad, blaming the “country” for the failures of Armitage and all the other lying swine who have have profited from the disasters they themselves have created. Thank you Attaturk.
Sure am glad I can listen to “cheney is still a war criminal” again!
the whole cap and trade = carbon tax has got me particularly disturbed because i think that global climate change is such an important issue. how are we going to have a rational discussion about policy options if respected blogs are muddying the issue and won’t engage with their readers when they are corrected?
this isn’t some small nit like getting a name spelled wrong.
new thread:
http://firedoglake.com/2007/12…..l-madness/
Mark, that was perfect :)
I can’t get past the NIE fiasco. Imagine if we had a different president. A sane, compassionate one. This info would have been revealed by that president as a good news moment for the American people. Even if that president claimed that his policies were responsible for the change. It could have been said that Iran has decided to moderate it’s policies. There’s still spin in that, I know, but it would have allowed Americans to breathe easier. But, nooooo, this asshole hides it from us to further try to terrify everyone.
Imagine if JFK had ignored the resolution to the Cuban Missile Crisis. He and his administration were trying to avoid war while still protecting the US. Would he ever have withheld the news of an agreement in order to stoke the fears of all of us? Of course not.
I just can’t get over this. A madman is in charge.
I agree. It’s pretty damn basic, even obvious.
Some progressive bloggers (e.g., Bob Somerby) are not the least bit hesitant about taking other progressive bloggers to task for what they see as errors.
Fear is the great persuader. It’s apparently working so far. Do you see the great revolt against this lunatic we call a president? Nope
13 Martyrs
http://13martyrs.blogspot.com/
i expect that both kevin and steve would post corrections (i think they make every attempt to be intellectually honest) if there were some way to get them to give it a couple of minutes of thought. i just don’t know how to break through the chaff – if they aren’t reading their own comment threads.
Sorry, this is OT, but I can’t believe what I just heard on MSNBC. Scarborough arguing with Shuster that waterboarding is OK for detainees that have vital info in order to fight the ‘war on terror.’ Shuster replying to the effect that “Joe, you as a moral human being cannot possibly be condoning the use of torture.” Joe telling Shuster to get with the ‘real world.’ Mika just sitting there not offering anything. Amazing. Scarborough just showed his true colors, when he’s been portraying himself as a reasonable person for the last few months. This man needs to be taken off the air and taken down, by any means necessary. Anybody out there have some good dirt on the bastard?
Anybody out there have some good dirt on the bastard?
You mean other than the dead intern in his Congressional Office?
guess it has to be a dead boy now, dead girl/live boy didn’t apply there.
Maybe he is just sick of how the FACTS about damn near everything are being hidden/ignored or twisted, and that a lot of folks are still screaming “I’m a Christian and MY version is the truth” and that alone gives them the right to watch whilst ordinary people are facing extraordinary situations brought on by the actions of others. People are dying, starving, being driven from the only place many of them have ever known and ‘we’re’ arguing religion. I’m not trying to rude, but those of faith need to remember that ‘In Gods eyes, we are ALL his Children’ so stand for your faith and stop hurting the rest of ‘Gods Children’. Please……
I’m not trying to be rude, I’m just trying to honest…
Yeah, guess I forgot about the dead girl. But I read the other day that Abramoff had Joe lined up to give a speech to congress back in ‘98 to denounce the ambassador to the Marshall Islands, I believe. The speech never happened due to other circumstances. I wonder if the feds could dig deeper for any connections to Joe, since Abramoff is supposed to be ‘cooperating’ now.
America the beautiful… an idealthat or aspiring, was to some degree moral and ethical.. values to cherish above wealth and power. The dignity of individuals that would not stoop made America a lighting rod for fair play and goodness. It sad to have to see her sinking in the slime of conservatism. The good samaritan of nations trades it all in for the mall. Even if you had nothing you were something wonderful. This is the great human tragedy we were lifting humanity now we are the bane of it. This is very painful. Happy Harbor Day
Actually, it was Eisenhower who started off the ABM systems about a half-century ago. Arms dealers had to work “on spec” from the signing of the ABM treaty in 1972 to Reagan’s revival of the program as “Star Wars” in 1983, but it’s incorrect to say that the program ever really stopped. It was just in hibernation, waiting to spring out again.
BTW, AP reports that the Bushies aren’t letting the NIE get in the way at all. No sirree, they’re going full steam ahead to see to it that war with Iran occurs on schedule.
Donita
love the video. Total Devo. have a great weekend