Comments on: Dick Cheney: Criswell has nothin’ on me

By: bradybonk

bradybonk — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:13:48 +0000

It’s time you straightened right out…creating problems in town…ahhhhh, Rudy…

(Who knew Dandy Livington was so prescient?)

By: KevinHayden

KevinHayden — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:01:24 +0000

Sure, but he wouldn’t be the first politician who matured and moved leftward.

By: Rayne

Rayne — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:51:33 +0000

Yes, you are validating my long-time theory that Plame was outed not just because of Wilson, but to put a stop to any work she and others in CPD were doing with regard to Iran.

I just hope it all comes out before November 2008.

By: Rayne

Rayne — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:49:35 +0000

pastfedup — they will welcome your edgier, more militant feedback at Tbogg when you feel the need. Something for everybody here, only a click away.

By: cinnamonape

cinnamonape — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:48:33 +0000

Interesting that the Iranians apparently stopped their efforts to make nukes after that Can job set up by the CIA with the phony triggers. That was probably Plame’s last job running something in the counterproliferation unit (although it may have occurred before she took over the Iranian ops in 2001). But after that the Iranians either realized that the CIA was all over their efforts (note Joe Wilson also outed the Iranian efforts to try to obtain Nigerien yellowcake back in 1999). To me it sounds as if they realized that such efforts were likely to be detected. Pakistan and Libya had been caught. And their one major regional threat, the Iraqi’s were being invaded and it was increasingly unlikely that they had ever had WMD’s.

So Khatami decided to shut down whatever efforts they had. In 2003. That was just about when Plame was outed.

BTW Khatami sent personal back-channel messages to the WH in 2003 offering to negotiate away both their capacity to obtain nuclear weapons (likely for Cold-water nuclear reactors with uranium supplied from outside) as well as working for legitimising a two-state solution for Israel and Palestine. Such negotiations were turned down.

By: pastfedup

pastfedup — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:47:40 +0000

I tend to agree with Beerfart Liberal @ 41. This site is one which I would categorize as more on the ‘nice’ side. The mods tend to keep it that way, and that’s OK. I visit FDL every day, and it’s one of my favorites, because of the rational discussion (with humor), the great posts and many topics that I care about. The posters are all smart, intelligent people, that goes for the comments as well. However, being the ornery vet that I am, living in a red state with a super capital R, I need something more ‘militant’ (for lack of a better word)to balance out the ‘nice.’ And though I usually get here too late to join in the discussions on favorite topics, my comments here (mostly about Repugs) have been more on the not-so-nice side. For more edgy stuff, I go to The Rude One or Maru; that’s why I enjoyed TRex here, he offered some of that balance.

Just my two cents, for what it’s worth. Jane, Christy and all do a lot of good work here and out in that vast neocon wasteland. Cudos also to Old Coastie for helping to get some MSM publicity about the California initiative signature fraud thing.

By: WarOnWarOff

WarOnWarOff — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:37:22 +0000

New thread above!

By: Elliott

Elliott — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:36:59 +0000

Jane’s upstairs!

By: Rayne

Rayne — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:36:25 +0000

=Xp..

How’s that, for starters? I can’t think of any other way to “Tweety-fy” an emoticon…

By: Rayne

Rayne — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:34:19 +0000

Ugh. See? That’s EXACTLY why they call us “clannish”.

And “wholesome”.

Because we pat team members on the back, and we’re grateful, and stuff.