No zed for Busted?

So the Paper of Record’s excuse is: there wasn’t enough time to get the story right? Wow.

Right. I type with two fingers.
Gives me plenty of time to include something relevant.
Actually, it gives me time to post the most irrelevant things that flash across my mind while typing.

Hi Blue Texan!

And they were having such a spirited discussion downstairs!

And they were having such a spirited discussion downstairs!

I enjoyed the earlier spirited discussions concerning Iran more. It was time for a new thread. Thanks BT.

thanks for the update B/T

Don’t forgot, he only had 400 words so he couldn’t spare any for this detail. Gee, or maybe he didn’t see the relavence. Just another case of a “journalist” who should not be employed until he has a better grasp on his trade. The old “fourth estate” sure ain’t what it used to be.

Hi, Blue Texan, good post!

All the news that fits, we print. (Or something like that)

From Bush’s presser today on the Saudi rape case:

Q Thank you. Another issue — on another issue of credibility in the Mideast, at the Annapolis summit, you used your influence to get Saudi Arabia to the table. But I wonder whether now you will use your influence to do something about the Saudi rape case that’s gotten so much international attention. What goes through your mind when you hear about a 19-year-old Saudi women getting gang-raped by seven men and basically a Saudi court blames the victim and sentenced her to 200 lashes? You spoke to King Abdullah by telephone in the last couple of weeks. Did you press him on this case? If so, what did you say? And if not, are you giving him a pass?

THE PRESIDENT: My first thoughts were these: What happens if this happened to my daughter? How would I react? And I would have been — I would have been — I’d have been very emotional, of course. I’d have been angry at those who committed the crime, and I’d be angry at a state that didn’t support the victim. And our opinions were expressed by Dana Perino from the podium and —

Q But did you press King Abdullah about it, personally?

THE PRESIDENT: I talked to King Abdullah about the Middle Eastern peace. I don’t remember if that subject came up.

Q But if it’s that important to you, why wouldn’t you bring it — at that level, bring it directly up to King Abdullah?

THE PRESIDENT: We’ll have plenty of time. He knows our position loud and clear.

So, he only had time for half the story – so he left out the half that demonstrated that Willard wants tolerance for HIS religion, but other religions? Not so much.

Par for the course.

Read: *As long as the oil keeps flowing he can do anything to that girl he wants and I won’t say a word*

Hugh – I watched the presser and i could have sworn chimpy said: “And our opinions were expressed by Dana Perino from this pulpit… errr… podium and —”

Hmmm.
Goose. Gander.
At least he took the time to write you back.
You had very few comments to the few downstairs which had questions about your post.
Am I wrong?

I don’t remember if that subject came up.

They need to hold hands more often.

O/t -

Ahhh, the smell of circular firing squads in the morning:

A question is not the same as a bullet.
Is it not PC to ask a question here?

Hugh – I watched the presser and i could have sworn chimpy said: “And our opinions were expressed by Dana Perino from this pulpit… errr… podium and —”

Could be. I was quoting from the White House transcript:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..204-4.html

Mitt knows brown people belong on the lawn, not in the cabinet.

OT…

Senate Votes 77-18 in Favor of U.S.-Peru Trade Agreement

The vote isn’t up yet, so I don’t know who the 18 are.

Will give the linky thing another try:

Blue Texan writes:

So the Paper of Record’s excuse is: there wasn’t enough time to get the story right? Wow.

so this guy went to the Joke Line school of journalism and reporting huh?

The money quote:

“One of the reasons why this is out in the public arena is because I wanted — and our administration believed that, one, it was important for people to know the facts as we see them. Secondly, that members of my administration had been very clear about the weapons program earlier this year and, therefore, it’s important for the American people to see that there has been a

– a reevaluation of the Iranian issue.”

Waccamaw December 4th, 2007 at 12:33 pm – 21
Will give the linky thing another try:

OK…No third attempts: it’s an article over at DU involving Huckabee

BTW paleontologists in Norway have found the remains of a short necked reptile as big as a bus with teeth the size of cucumbers. My question: Has anyone seen Karl Rove recently?

Good catch, Blue. 400 words and a half hour deadline makes a smoochfest for Romney in the Times. Romney is a big ol’ flip-flopper. He has no sincerity or dedication to any issue. He has a square jaw and a nice head of hair. Therein ends any similarity to JFK.

This actually follows kind of nicely with the previous post. Newspaper gives half of story, waits for public to react. People are still downstairs vowing to never support Edwards because of the Des Moines Register story, and we still have no idea whether Edwards Vowed anything. But they gave the portion of the story they wanted us to react to and we reacted…

OT

http://video.google.com/videop…..4894802811

http://video.google.com/videop…..3224520614

See this documentary PLEASE

Left the link over on IamTrex.

Hello Blue Texan.

Pleased to meet you. Thank you for this post. Writing about this topic puts it front and centr. Unfortunately, this is repeated throughout the country. We need a lot of Blue Texans out there.

However, this is completely fitting – just tell half-truths. Shakespeare often wrote about half-truths and the consequences of half-truths in his tragedies. The result was death to the offender while taking many innocents with him.

As for religious bigots, how long have they been in practice? How about thousands of years. What makes humans love it?

You had very few comments to the few downstairs which had questions about your post.
Am I wrong?

Er, seriously? 7 replies in comments — and an update on the main post — not sufficient?

Sheesh, tough crowd.

Sander that is 3 HOURS of documentary you are askin us to watch.

No CliffsNotes?

Hugh -

BTW paleontologists in Norway have found the remains of a short necked reptile as big as a bus with teeth the size of cucumbers. My question: Has anyone seen Karl Rove recently?

His “remains” seem to be talking to a lot of reporters in recent days.

You can’t call yerself Gumby in this day and age and not be tough…

Sorry BT,
I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings, but
I don’t think you heard what I was saying.
It doesn’t matter, anyway.
There’s plenty else here.

It’s actually 4, but it is an amazing view of our world and what is going on.

View it at your leisure.

It’s worth it and it explains why Americans behave as they do.

OT:

Don’t let the Administration off the hook regarding the NIE.

Sources say that Romney has a fish tail instead of legs.

gonna love this, sorry it’s off topic but it’s great

the intelligence community is finally extracting their due for Valéry, though to me they would have done this even if the traitors that exposed our covert assets were brought to justice

anyway, look at this Cheney smack down (gleamed from think progress);

“This is absolutely absurd. The NIE has been in substantially the form in which it was finally submitted for more than six months. The White House, and particularly Vice President Cheney, used every trick in the book to stop it from being finalized and issued.

There was no last minute breakthrough that caused the issuance of the assessment.”

oh man, are they trying to get bush to fire Cheney or WHAT?

they are going after him big time

democrats need to jump on this…they can make the president feel like a fool for ever listening to Cheney, they can say things like;

“the vice president has treated you like a child, doing things you would have never approved and then making you look like a total fool by not informing you of information like this…the same information he kept from you that convinced you Iraq was a threat when the intelligence community kept telling him Iraq was no threat…you have been played for a puppet and will continue as a marionette in the public’s eye until you get rid of Cheney and start making decisions yourself”

we can play bush just like cheney, krystol and the rest of those sickos in the pnac play him

we can get bush to throw cheney under the bus just by insinuating cheney is making him look like a fool

Since I am a writer, I thought I would take a stab at editing the report to include this information, with the understanding that it must be done in a very limited time. I HAVE limited time, so this should be an ideal test.

Only the first three paragraphs of the article concern Mitt Romney, and they total only 267 words. So I COULD just insert 133 more words, but lets pretend the limit is 267.

“Mitt Romney will address suspicions about his Mormon faith in a speech scheduled for Thursday, not far from where John F. Kennedy delivered an address nearly 50 years ago credited with defusing concerns about his Catholic faith in his election.

Mr. Romney will give the address, entitled ‘Faith in America,’ at the George H. W. Bush Presidential Library. According to his campaign, he will “share his views on religious liberty, the grand tradition religious tolerance has played in the progress of our nation and how the governor’s own faith would inform his presidency if he were elected.”

Although some of his aides have been trying to dissuade him, Mr. Romney decided about a week ago to give the speech, feeling that it was the right moment, his advisers said. It was about a week ago that Mr. Romney made the controversial statement that he would be unwilling to include anyone of the Muslim faith in his Cabinet.

Suspicions about Mr. Romney’s Mormon beliefs, which many conservative Christians consider to be heretical, have dogged his candidacy since it began, with many polls showing that large numbers of Americans would not vote for a Mormon candidate. The announcement comes a week after Mike Huckabee, a former Baptist pastor whose rise in the polls in Iowa has been fueled by evangelical Christians, began running a television advertisement that describes him as a “Christian leader,” which some viewed as a jab at Mr. Romney.”

Now, I’m not a journalist, and I was fairly free with the editorial knife, but the final result is only 240 words long, leaving either 27 (or 160) words in which to correct any excessive edits on my part.

And it took me…. six minutes.

Sander that is 3 HOURS of documentary you are askin us to watch.

No CliffsNotes?

Cliff notes

It’s a 2002 4 part BBC documentary. I’m watching part 2 at the moment. Does seem pretty interesting and a well done documentary.

Speaking of the Times.
How come they haven’t picked up on the Waxman/Fitzy/White House
affair?
I’ll take my answer off the air, and will a lawyer
pleeze tell me why Libby’s appeal has not been adjudicated yet?
Time IS NOT of the essence….

perris @ 39 -

Very interesting info…any particular location at Think Progress?

popping in out of lurkistan . . . does this new redesign have a “refresh comments” button anywhere?

I can’t find it . . .

ot – another fisa bill has been submitted in the senate (this one by specter). the sjc will be considering it during their business meeting on thursday. (haven’t updated the hearings list yet, but will soon). see marcy and talkleft for more.

even further ot – the center for constitutional rights will be arguing before the supreme court tomorrow:

Tomorrow, December 5, the Center for Constitutional Rights will return to the Supreme Court for part III of what The New York Times has called “the most important civil rights case in 50 years.” Please go to our website to learn more about the arguments and principles at stake in this Guantánamo case.You can also listen to the arguments in real time tomorrow on C-SPAN radio beginning at 11:15 EST.

“we can get bush to throw cheney under the bus just by insinuating cheney is making him look like a fool”

But, but, Bush is a fool.

puravida (the commenter formerly known as mc)

It gets better stick with it.

NYC area FDL meetup tomorrow night, Wednesday, 12/5, 5:30, Parnell’s Pub, SW corner of 53 & first. Come one, come all.

Bolton on CNN claiming “there’s a very real chance of disinformation” having been used in the NIE. Now, why does that not surprise me?

Scout,
When new comments are ready, there should be a link at the bottom of the page that says “XX new comments. click here” or something along those lines.

They’re talking about the US in Guatemala now. This ties-in in a big way with much of what Naomi Klein talks about in The Shock Doctrine. Thanks for calling attention to it, SanderO.

Thank you dakine01

I actually just saw that and realized that this feature is only visible when you are actually logged in with your screen name.

I usually lurk without logging in and have been hard refreshing the whole page for days.

I guess I will log in when reading now.

Thanks again.

That’s the problem with lurkistan. The link appears for me only if I am receiving cookies and registered. Otherwise I have to do hard refresh and remember the number of the last comment.

Not happy for this confirmed lurker.

The new comment gizmo fades in right above the box you type in.
just comes out of nowhere and tells you there are new comments.

perris, I’d prefer to have Dick Cheney the face of the republicans come election time.

I have a suggestion for a front pager. Why don’t you do a post & ask that the comments be primarily from traditional lurkers? Sometimes Brian Lehrer & C-SPAN reserve a slot for first time callers.

Do you mean Brian Lamb?

When there are new comments, it will tell you above the Leave your response button. Also, hard refresh will help.

Washington Journal in general. Don’t remember which hosts do first time callers.

Oh no, the Brian I was referring to is Brian Lehrer on WNYC weekdays from 10-12.

In Costa Rica?

Pura vida!

New Thread upstairs!

Blue Texan, it is very interesting reading this post in the context of your piece on John Edward’s possible cabinet appointments.

It does not look like you hold yourself to the same standards to which you hold the New York Times.

No, not sufficient. This is not a “tough crowd” ….. just one that won’t tollerate bullshit.

Change your headline or produce evidence where John Edwards said what you attribute to him as of yesterday.