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	<title>Comments on: New York Times Blows It On Romney&#8217;s &#8220;JFK&#8221; Speech</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131539</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gee, more smelling salts. I now find out that the Justice Dept has brought NO lawsuits under fair housing laws while all this disproportionate subprime lending has been going on to protected classes.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Don’t automatically presume it occurred because of stupidity or an accident.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Consider one hypothesis, what would you do with billions of hot cash taken from Iraq? Want to launder it back into the American economy? How?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Want to buy a lot of cheap houses with cash?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think how many drug dealers have had to launder ill-gotten cash and bought stuff with cash?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bush criminality…black market criminality.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This could be wrong of course. It is, after all, just a theory — like evolution.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gee, more smelling salts. I now find out that the Justice Dept has brought NO lawsuits under fair housing laws while all this disproportionate subprime lending has been going on to protected classes.</p>
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<p>Don’t automatically presume it occurred because of stupidity or an accident.</p>
<p>Consider one hypothesis, what would you do with billions of hot cash taken from Iraq? Want to launder it back into the American economy? How?</p>
<p>Want to buy a lot of cheap houses with cash?</p>
<p>Think how many drug dealers have had to launder ill-gotten cash and bought stuff with cash?</p>
<p>Bush criminality…black market criminality.</p>
<p>This could be wrong of course. It is, after all, just a theory — like evolution.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131489</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; would like to point out that Islam also considers the Bible to be “a” holy text, and it is subsumed as part of their teachings. Islam and the Prophet Muhammed doesn’t seem all that different from Mormonism and Joseph Smith the Prophet.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Another similarity. Both Islam and Mormonism hold that the Bible AS WRITTEN is filled with errors introduced after the Catholic Chrutch got its Mitts on it starting about the 2nd century.  They thus believe that their own texts brought to their leaders by Angels are more true to the original meaning of Scripture, plus supplements it with the tales of God’s grace to a new “chosen people” living in the desert. Both have more than their share of earlier polygenistic Abrahamian theology in their religion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So when the fundamentalist got on YouTube/CNN debate and started raving about…”Do you believe THIS!” Romney was being a bit disingenous in saying that he DID. He believes in only SOME of the King James Bible, with a lot of stuff taken out and other interpretations added in.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mormonism = Scientology in a Conestoga Wagon!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> would like to point out that Islam also considers the Bible to be “a” holy text, and it is subsumed as part of their teachings. Islam and the Prophet Muhammed doesn’t seem all that different from Mormonism and Joseph Smith the Prophet.</p>
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<p>Another similarity. Both Islam and Mormonism hold that the Bible AS WRITTEN is filled with errors introduced after the Catholic Chrutch got its Mitts on it starting about the 2nd century.  They thus believe that their own texts brought to their leaders by Angels are more true to the original meaning of Scripture, plus supplements it with the tales of God’s grace to a new “chosen people” living in the desert. Both have more than their share of earlier polygenistic Abrahamian theology in their religion.</p>
<p>So when the fundamentalist got on YouTube/CNN debate and started raving about…”Do you believe THIS!” Romney was being a bit disingenous in saying that he DID. He believes in only SOME of the King James Bible, with a lot of stuff taken out and other interpretations added in.</p>
<p>Mormonism = Scientology in a Conestoga Wagon!</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131091</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The “80 miles” distance at least demographically couldn’t be more far apart if the cities were divided by an ocean. The NYT is just making crap up to add to a nothing story which nothing more that Mitt Romney gives a speech in Texas.
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&lt;p&gt;Zackly. And K-Lo thinks College Station is in the “&lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWQzNWQ1M2NkZjZkZDUzNjM1ZDQwNDhmZDFmZDdkNjk=&quot;&gt;Houston area&lt;/a&gt;.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yikes.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The “80 miles” distance at least demographically couldn’t be more far apart if the cities were divided by an ocean. The NYT is just making crap up to add to a nothing story which nothing more that Mitt Romney gives a speech in Texas.
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<p>Zackly. And K-Lo thinks College Station is in the “<a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWQzNWQ1M2NkZjZkZDUzNjM1ZDQwNDhmZDFmZDdkNjk=">Houston area</a>.”</p>
<p>Yikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131084</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are plenty of bigots who can not stomach the idea of a “Mormon” president, just as other bigots can not stomach the idea of a President of who is Muslim, Jewish, etc. I look forward to the day when all US citizens are grown up enough to support and oppose Presidential candidates for reasons of policy rather than on the basis of their religious beliefs or on the basis of whether candidates wear “magic underwear.”&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I agree except that religion has been forcefully injected into politics over the past twenty years or so.  In the current environment, there is no way that I would want to see an Evangelical Christian in the WH or on the Supreme Court.  Jeebus they just fired a person from the Texas school text book board because she believes in evolution.  Mitt didn’t help his situation with his statements about having a Muslim in his cabinet.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are plenty of bigots who can not stomach the idea of a “Mormon” president, just as other bigots can not stomach the idea of a President of who is Muslim, Jewish, etc. I look forward to the day when all US citizens are grown up enough to support and oppose Presidential candidates for reasons of policy rather than on the basis of their religious beliefs or on the basis of whether candidates wear “magic underwear.”</p>
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<p>I agree except that religion has been forcefully injected into politics over the past twenty years or so.  In the current environment, there is no way that I would want to see an Evangelical Christian in the WH or on the Supreme Court.  Jeebus they just fired a person from the Texas school text book board because she believes in evolution.  Mitt didn’t help his situation with his statements about having a Muslim in his cabinet.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131081</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You can read the NIE in pdf here:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/international/20071203_release.pdf&quot;&gt;http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p…..elease.pdf&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It completely blasts the whole “Let’s go to war with Iran” argument out of the water.  It will, of course, have no effect on Dick Cheney’s delusions or war mania however.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can read the NIE in pdf here:</p>
<p><a href="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/international/20071203_release.pdf">http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p…..elease.pdf</a>  </p>
<p>It completely blasts the whole “Let’s go to war with Iran” argument out of the water.  It will, of course, have no effect on Dick Cheney’s delusions or war mania however.</p>
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		<title>By: TxExspeedy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131077</link>
		<dc:creator>TxExspeedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just so you know; For the New York Times to suggest that Romney selected College Station because of its proximity to Houston (where JFK spoke)to invoke the JFK imagery on religion is ludicrous. Anyone from Texas knows that College Station could not be a more conservative place. Texas A&amp;M university is located there. It has the George H.W. Bush library there. The “80 miles” distance at least demographically couldn’t be more far apart if the cities were divided by an ocean. The NYT is just making crap up to add to a nothing story which nothing more that Mitt Romney gives a speech in Texas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know; For the New York Times to suggest that Romney selected College Station because of its proximity to Houston (where JFK spoke)to invoke the JFK imagery on religion is ludicrous. Anyone from Texas knows that College Station could not be a more conservative place. Texas A&amp;M university is located there. It has the George H.W. Bush library there. The “80 miles” distance at least demographically couldn’t be more far apart if the cities were divided by an ocean. The NYT is just making crap up to add to a nothing story which nothing more that Mitt Romney gives a speech in Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131076</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, “sin” sounds about right.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, “sin” sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: spurious</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131075</link>
		<dc:creator>spurious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are plenty of bigots who can not stomach the idea of a “Mormon” president, just as other bigots can not stomach the idea of a President of who is Muslim, Jewish, etc. I look forward to the day when all US citizens are grown up enough to support and oppose Presidential candidates for reasons of policy rather than on the basis of their religious beliefs or on the basis of whether candidates wear “magic underwear.”&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Amen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are plenty of bigots who can not stomach the idea of a “Mormon” president, just as other bigots can not stomach the idea of a President of who is Muslim, Jewish, etc. I look forward to the day when all US citizens are grown up enough to support and oppose Presidential candidates for reasons of policy rather than on the basis of their religious beliefs or on the basis of whether candidates wear “magic underwear.”</p>
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<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-AR</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131068</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve-AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Snow report says it’ll start again tomorrow. Went from 17″ base to 32″ base in about a week. If those storms hit this week, base should be adequate by 12/15, but I’ll wait for another couple of days before finalizing my plans&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;If Utah is a bust for mid-Dec…There is always Grand Targhee WY, 70″ base and it always snows there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Snow report says it’ll start again tomorrow. Went from 17″ base to 32″ base in about a week. If those storms hit this week, base should be adequate by 12/15, but I’ll wait for another couple of days before finalizing my plans</p>
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<p>If Utah is a bust for mid-Dec…There is always Grand Targhee WY, 70″ base and it always snows there.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/new-york-times-blows-it-on-romneys-jfk-speech/#comment-1131065</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jane!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/12805/&quot;&gt;Union Busting For the Holidays&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane!!</p>
<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/03/12805/">Union Busting For the Holidays</a></p>
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