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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129963</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And I like the way sales was spelled.  It’s more accurate.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I like the way sales was spelled.  It’s more accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: PetePierce</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129956</link>
		<dc:creator>PetePierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let me assure you that the vote is coming before Santa,  and it’s going to result, as I’ve said many times, in a bill no one here will like at all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Want to know one reason why?  Go out in the street tomorrow and try asking anyone you see (get over the momentary embarassement) if they know the FISA vote is coming soon.  They simply won’t have a clue what you’re talking about.  It’s not even a blip on their radar. And if and when you context it a bit, they will still look at you with a querulous expression.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is colossal indifference to the a different type of “takings clause”–that’d be the taking of the Constitution &lt;strong&gt;from you.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Has the mainstream media been covering it?  Hell no. Daily Britney, O.J., “cop murders wife” maybe with his own on the fly reality show–Hell yeah. That’s your America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And that’s why when it matters no one’s going to step up to the plate, chiefly &lt;em&gt;your “Democrats.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Again “Children who became adult bodies who are perpetual adolescents or tweens nearly 200 million to people who aware 1″ is the ratio.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This tragedy about to happen has not been a blip on the media radar in the medium that most of America still watches to get their “news” –the T.V.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tweety and MSN “OJ/Britney” BC and Floyd Abramns’ little boy getting a new liberal wind in his sales barely scratches the surface with this.  How long before they start an O.J./Britney Tuesday?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The perpetual adolescents who are your country simply don’t know and don’t care and they are far more concerned about reruns and wonder why they’re happening, and &lt;em&gt;“Gossip Girl”&lt;/em&gt; has ratings that outnumber the jokes that are titled Presidential “debates” (with “Lightening Rounds and insipidly stupid questions from people like Blitzer) eight or nine to one.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pssst.  Preview isn’t a preview.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me assure you that the vote is coming before Santa,  and it’s going to result, as I’ve said many times, in a bill no one here will like at all.</p>
<p>Want to know one reason why?  Go out in the street tomorrow and try asking anyone you see (get over the momentary embarassement) if they know the FISA vote is coming soon.  They simply won’t have a clue what you’re talking about.  It’s not even a blip on their radar. And if and when you context it a bit, they will still look at you with a querulous expression.  </p>
<p>There is colossal indifference to the a different type of “takings clause”–that’d be the taking of the Constitution <strong>from you.</strong></p>
<p>Has the mainstream media been covering it?  Hell no. Daily Britney, O.J., “cop murders wife” maybe with his own on the fly reality show–Hell yeah. That’s your America.</p>
<p>And that’s why when it matters no one’s going to step up to the plate, chiefly <em>your “Democrats.</em></p>
<p><em>Again “Children who became adult bodies who are perpetual adolescents or tweens nearly 200 million to people who aware 1″ is the ratio.</em></p>
<p>This tragedy about to happen has not been a blip on the media radar in the medium that most of America still watches to get their “news” –the T.V.</p>
<p>Tweety and MSN “OJ/Britney” BC and Floyd Abramns’ little boy getting a new liberal wind in his sales barely scratches the surface with this.  How long before they start an O.J./Britney Tuesday?</p>
<p>The perpetual adolescents who are your country simply don’t know and don’t care and they are far more concerned about reruns and wonder why they’re happening, and <em>“Gossip Girl”</em> has ratings that outnumber the jokes that are titled Presidential “debates” (with “Lightening Rounds and insipidly stupid questions from people like Blitzer) eight or nine to one.</p>
<p><em>Pssst.  Preview isn’t a preview.</em></p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129937</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CBS News Reports that:&lt;br /&gt;
Mike Huckabee has Chuck Norris in his corner. Melissa Gilbert is backing Rudy Giuliani. And the Osmonds are swooning for Mitt Romney.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CBS News adds: “not surprisingly, most of Hollywood’s celebrities are backing Democrats”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you hear the dog-whistle? I can.
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&lt;p&gt;Excuse me, weren’t Norris Gilbert AND the Osmonds all actors and on Hollywood t.v. shows?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seems you can’t expect someone to tell the truth if he’s paid not to. Or, maybe they just don’t have script writers doing the work for media ‘journalists’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>CBS News Reports that:<br />
Mike Huckabee has Chuck Norris in his corner. Melissa Gilbert is backing Rudy Giuliani. And the Osmonds are swooning for Mitt Romney.</p>
<p>CBS News adds: “not surprisingly, most of Hollywood’s celebrities are backing Democrats”.</p>
<p>Can you hear the dog-whistle? I can.
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<p>Excuse me, weren’t Norris Gilbert AND the Osmonds all actors and on Hollywood t.v. shows?</p>
<p>Seems you can’t expect someone to tell the truth if he’s paid not to. Or, maybe they just don’t have script writers doing the work for media ‘journalists’.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129927</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;The FISA vote is coming! The FISA vote is coming!&lt;br /&gt;
One if by land line, 2 if by cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;That would be hilarious if it weren’t such a sad situation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>The FISA vote is coming! The FISA vote is coming!<br />
One if by land line, 2 if by cell.<br />
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<p>That would be hilarious if it weren’t such a sad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;
OldCoastie December 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 am&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;OT - watching Huckabee on the stephanupolous show… I’m thinking the big money interests will come after him hard if he gets any traction in the primary.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Yeah, they won’t like the tax tax tax man.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Still, that might not stop the fundies in some midwest states from picking him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. I don’t see Preview working here.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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OldCoastie December 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 am<br />
77</p>
<p>OT &#8211; watching Huckabee on the stephanupolous show… I’m thinking the big money interests will come after him hard if he gets any traction in the primary.<br />
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<p>Yeah, they won’t like the tax tax tax man.</p>
<p>Still, that might not stop the fundies in some midwest states from picking him.</p>
<p>P.S. I don’t see Preview working here.</p>
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		<title>By: calvinthecat</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129750</link>
		<dc:creator>calvinthecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LHP:  You need to read REAL American Hx.  Revere was “created” many years after the American Revolution by famed American poet, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, in “Paul Revere’s Ride”.  What really happened was much different and is accurately portrayed by Ray Raphael in “Founding Myths”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;calvin highly recommends that book and Howard Zinn’s, “A People’s History of the United States.”  We need to know our history.  There was a revolution, a real one, not the one in our nation’s history books.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is in our history books is what our conservative “keepers” want us to know.  However, we did have a real people’s revolution.  It’s well-worth the time to delve into our “real” history.  It’s worth to find out how we’ve been bamboozled all these years.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LHP:  You need to read REAL American Hx.  Revere was “created” many years after the American Revolution by famed American poet, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, in “Paul Revere’s Ride”.  What really happened was much different and is accurately portrayed by Ray Raphael in “Founding Myths”.</p>
<p>calvin highly recommends that book and Howard Zinn’s, “A People’s History of the United States.”  We need to know our history.  There was a revolution, a real one, not the one in our nation’s history books.  </p>
<p>What is in our history books is what our conservative “keepers” want us to know.  However, we did have a real people’s revolution.  It’s well-worth the time to delve into our “real” history.  It’s worth to find out how we’ve been bamboozled all these years.</p>
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		<title>By: SunnyNobility</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyNobility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We should pay attention to affinity cards.  They not only track your purchases, but your physical location every time you shop.  Great stuff for  serious profiling.  At the same time they were introduced, all of the grocers stopped doing sale deals to anyone but affinity card holders, so the net gain to shoppers appears to be zip (except check cashing convenience maybe).  The only thing they seem not to track are beer and cig sales - perhaps afraid someone would try to subpoena the data for a divorce trial and gum up the works.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When they were first introduced, I watched a groc store manager use a chain drug store affinity card in lieu of theirs for someone who had forgotten her card, saying I could lose my job for showing you this.  I assume  retailers are being compensated (directly or indirectly)by data aggregators for the data.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, they are convenient for cashing checks, etc.  but the amount of info being served up is major and not random.  At the beginning there were groups of folks who swapped around cards periodically, but then the merchants started mailing bonus coupons, etc.  Possibly in part to discourage this behavior.  I don’t think people in this country care about privacy…  Perhaps another thing that comes under the heading of if you’re not doing anything wrong, why should you care.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone know who the aggregator is… Choice Point?  It would be interesting to know exactly how this works.  Do the grocers get compensated or get computer systems and valuable inventory, sales-profile and check credit data?  Does the aggregator handle the bad checks?  What does the aggrogator do with the data?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should pay attention to affinity cards.  They not only track your purchases, but your physical location every time you shop.  Great stuff for  serious profiling.  At the same time they were introduced, all of the grocers stopped doing sale deals to anyone but affinity card holders, so the net gain to shoppers appears to be zip (except check cashing convenience maybe).  The only thing they seem not to track are beer and cig sales &#8211; perhaps afraid someone would try to subpoena the data for a divorce trial and gum up the works.</p>
<p>When they were first introduced, I watched a groc store manager use a chain drug store affinity card in lieu of theirs for someone who had forgotten her card, saying I could lose my job for showing you this.  I assume  retailers are being compensated (directly or indirectly)by data aggregators for the data.  </p>
<p>Of course, they are convenient for cashing checks, etc.  but the amount of info being served up is major and not random.  At the beginning there were groups of folks who swapped around cards periodically, but then the merchants started mailing bonus coupons, etc.  Possibly in part to discourage this behavior.  I don’t think people in this country care about privacy…  Perhaps another thing that comes under the heading of if you’re not doing anything wrong, why should you care.</p>
<p>Anyone know who the aggregator is… Choice Point?  It would be interesting to know exactly how this works.  Do the grocers get compensated or get computer systems and valuable inventory, sales-profile and check credit data?  Does the aggregator handle the bad checks?  What does the aggrogator do with the data?</p>
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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129386</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My son says the best grafitti he ever saw read: “If voting changed things it would be illegal.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son says the best grafitti he ever saw read: “If voting changed things it would be illegal.”</p>
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		<title>By: Mommybrain</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/02/the-fisa-vote-is-coming-the-fisa-vote-is-coming/#comment-1129170</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 18:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I checked and as of a few minutes ago, PaulRevere.com is still available.  Paul Revere.org belongs to some policeman in Iowa who doesn’t want our guns taken away. (PS I don’t either, any more.)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked and as of a few minutes ago, PaulRevere.com is still available.  Paul Revere.org belongs to some policeman in Iowa who doesn’t want our guns taken away. (PS I don’t either, any more.)</p>
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		<title>By: jexter</title>
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		<dc:creator>jexter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/12/can_you_hear_me.html&quot;&gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/thebl…..ar_me.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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