Jane!

It might not be the Stanley guy – per MSNBC..

Jane!

One has to wonder how long it will be before the Freepers set up a legal defense fund for him. Undoubtedly the wingnut conspiracy theorists are already beginning to build a Bridge to Vince Foster.

Now they are saying it is a Leland Eisenberg, but the other info sounds the same…the flares, etc., hmmmmm….confusing.

According to CNN, the man is apparently upset with the state of mental health care in America.

Starbuck!

LS, the kid who was interviewed said he knew the man’s son. It’s entirely possible the kid was naming his friend to the reporter and Tony (his friend)is the man’s son.

mc @ 6

Starbuck!

LOL!

Mommybrain @ 7

LS, the kid who was interviewed said he knew the man’s son. It’s entirely possible the kid was naming his friend to the reporter and Tony (his friend)is the man’s son.

Could be.

Sorry to come across like a concern troll, but I believe that speculation only reflects our fears. I urge everyone to continue hoping for the best for all involved, and to avoid speculating about the perpetrator and his or her motives. Reporting on rumors is little better. I think this is an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from many who will rush to judgment. Looseheadprop’s comments in the prior thread show the kind of forbearance and compassion that I think better represents the progressive community.

The Freepers will endeavor to make hay out of anything we say of course, but that’s no reason to make the job easier for them.

As I said over at Digby’s:

Constant immersion in the Fear drug produces Hate as its only perceived “viable” response.

Repug strategists have wittingly (or even *cough* unwittingly *cough*) fed this Fear addiction as their means to bestir their legionaires to rise up and smite the heathen DFHs.

That they’ve unleashed totally irrational Fear-driven, Hate-laden mindless zombies is apparently of no concern to the master planners.

Yes, even paranoids have enemies, but once identified, paranoids never, ever, forget whom they’ve identified.

Coincidentally, this post and the ongoing “hostage crisis” at the Clinton NH Campaign Headquarters seem of one and the same fabric.

Unfortunately, I have been concerned as Campaign 2008 really ramps up, we will only see more of the same.

I remember the 60s too well as Democrats became targets of a similar Fear-drugged and Hate-induced Repug base.

according to rhandi rhodes, not withstanding the two people who have been released there are still two hostages left

Matthews seems to be very sympathetic to the hostage taker.
When can we get Rachel Maddow to replace his sorry ass?

Found this: Evidently he was objecting in March of 2007 to police going into peoples’ cars and placing fliers — doesn’t sound too crazy to me!

“Leeland Eisenberg of Gonic is questioning the new police strategy that had officers checking for unlocked vehicles, opening the doors and placing fliers on the driver’s seat urging residents to lock their doors.”

Albatross @ 10 –

you don’t sound like a concern troll to me…. no fainting couch to be seen. not even any pearl clutching. just a sound reminder. thank you.

Fox: Ex-wife sez Troy Stanley is a paranoid schizophrenic who has not been taking his meds (lithium).

bellesouth @ 14

Found this: Evidently he was objecting in March of 2007 to police going into peoples’ cars and placing fliers — doesn’t sound too crazy to me!

“Leeland Eisenberg of Gonic is questioning the new police strategy that had officers checking for unlocked vehicles, opening the doors and placing fliers on the driver’s seat urging residents to lock their doors.”

Hmmmmmmmm….

I the WGA were not on strike, next week’s L&O (ripped from the headlines) would be in the works.

eCAHNomics @ 16

Fox: Ex-wife sez Troy Stanley is a paranoid schizophrenic who has not been taking his meds (lithium).

I think paranoid schizophrenics take antipsychotics. Lithium is a mood stabilizer. Even Ted Turner and Jane Pauley take it.

selise @ 15

Albatross @ 10 –

you don’t sound like a concern troll to me…. no fainting couch to be seen. not even any pearl clutching. just a sound reminder. thank you.

I don’t think I’m remiss in assuming that all of us want this to end peacefully, with no loss of life. Thanks, Albatross.

Jo Fish @ 3

Jane!

One has to wonder how long it will be before the Freepers set up a legal defense fund for him. Undoubtedly the wingnut conspiracy theorists are already beginning to build a Bridge to Vince Foster.

No surprise, that freepers have poked their heads out from their butts long enough to weigh in on current events.

At least, Ted Turner is supposed to be taking it. But it’s 100% different from Haldol.

It’s nuts – two different people are being touted as being the suspect.

mui @ 19

eCAHNomics @ 16

Fox: Ex-wife sez Troy Stanley is a paranoid schizophrenic who has not been taking his meds (lithium).

I think paranoid schizophrenics take antipsychotics. Lithium is a mood stabilizer. Even Ted Turner and Jane Pauley take it.

Just repeating what I heard. Can;t vouch for accuracy of it.

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

Kinda makes you miss the days when people would report what the actually knew, huh?

Another downside of the 500-channel universe.

LS @ 23

It’s nuts – two different people are being touted as being the suspect.

Who’s the other one & link, plz.

mui @ 19

eCAHNomics @ 16

Fox: Ex-wife sez Troy Stanley is a paranoid schizophrenic who has not been taking his meds (lithium).

I think paranoid schizophrenics take antipsychotics. Lithium is a mood stabilizer. Even Ted Turner and Jane Pauley take it.

If he was taking Lithium, chances are better that he’s bipolar.

Bob in HI

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

Nice to get flowers, but annoying that there’s no note. I’m surprised the delivery person can’t track it down electronically.

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

Well Hey! If you want, I’ll take credit for ‘em! ;})

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

All firepups shout in unison, “It was me!”

bellesouth @ 14

Found this: Evidently he was objecting in March of 2007 to police going into peoples’ cars and placing fliers — doesn’t sound too crazy to me!

“Leeland Eisenberg of Gonic is questioning the new police strategy that had officers checking for unlocked vehicles, opening the doors and placing fliers on the driver’s seat urging residents to lock their doors.”

Rochester NH police blotters have his name twice — once for stalking and another for drunk driving. He also recently went through a divorce. He’s in his 40s — if the mental illness is fairly recent, he’s probably in a world of hurt right now. I hope he gets some help and that nobody gets hurt.

eCAHNomics @ 24

mui @ 19

I think paranoid schizophrenics take antipsychotics. Lithium is a mood stabilizer. Even Ted Turner and Jane Pauley take it.

Just repeating what I heard. Can;t vouch for accuracy of it.

Count on Fox to mix up paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar syndrome. It’s freaking insulting.

dakine01 @ 30

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

Well Hey! If you want, I’ll take credit for ‘em! ;})

Thanks, Dakine!

This makes up for the Red Sox.

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

It wasn’t me, but I hope they’re nice flowers! Hope they’re nothing more than a tangible gesture of appreciation and/or affection for all you do.
FunnyD

musicsleuth @ 32

bellesouth @ 14

Found this: Evidently he was objecting in March of 2007 to police going into peoples’ cars and placing fliers — doesn’t sound too crazy to me!

“Leeland Eisenberg of Gonic is questioning the new police strategy that had officers checking for unlocked vehicles, opening the doors and placing fliers on the driver’s seat urging residents to lock their doors.”

Rochester NH police blotters have his name twice — once for stalking and another for drunk driving. He also recently went through a divorce. He’s in his 40s — if the mental illness is fairly recent, he’s probably in a world of hurt right now. I hope he gets some help and that nobody gets hurt.

I have a bipolar friend that got waaaay out of control and acted like he was on speed all the time, didn’t sleep etc. He got to a point where he was psychotic. (I called his mother I was so worried. He couldn’t even focus on grocery shopping when I took him to the store.) At that point it’s hospital time.

Leeland Eisenberg was an inmate in the custody of the Massachusetts Department of Corrections and was institutionalized at the DOC facility in Bridgewater

Jane Hamsher @ 34

dakine01 @ 30

Well Hey! If you want, I’ll take credit for ‘em! ;})

Thanks, Dakine!

This makes up for the Red Sox.

*mumble under his breath – we really have to get her away from the Evil Empire – /mumble*

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

eCAHNomics @ 35

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

I’ve never made it past 12 hours.

mui @ 33

eCAHNomics @ 24

Just repeating what I heard. Can;t vouch for accuracy of it.

Count on Fox to mix up paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar syndrome. It’s freaking insulting.

Not to defent Fox, by any means, but don’t the two go together sometimes? And have a synergistically bad effect?

FunnyD

oops.

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

I’ve been trying to get front pagers to do a post on that for over a week. Scares the living daylights out of me. Listen to this:
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20…..giraldi-8/

eCAHNomics @ 35

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

I wish I couldn’t answer that. Been there. Not no mo, tho.

Basically it’s drink, pass out, wake up and drink, pass out, etc.

bellesouth @ 43

I thought I just posted something? (not including this)

I see you there at 38, hard refresh?

FunnyD

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

“(899B)(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

Those dangerous tooobz!!!

Funnydiva2002 @ 36

Jane Hamsher @ 25

Whoever just sent me flowers didn’t sign the card and the florist wants me to call an 800 number and spend the next hour trying to figure out who it was.

Aargh. Maybe tomorrow.

It wasn’t me, but I hope they’re nice flowers! Hope they’re nothing more than a tangible gesture of appreciation and/or affection for all you do.
FunnyD

It wasn’t me I like to send teddy grams.

I’ve seen people “go on a drinking binge” far longer than 72 hours. I’ve seen people go on drinking-coke binges for a week, if the money didn’t run out. People who do that don’t live very long lives.

eCAHNomics @ 44

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

I’ve been trying to get front pagers to do a post on that for over a week. Scares the living daylights out of me. Listen to this:
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/20…..giraldi-8/

I’ll second eCAHN vis a vis wanting a front-page post on this. Although I imagine one could be in the works but that fact-checking, document obtaining, etc could be taking time.

FunnyD

Well, he looks like someone in a lot of pain, very disturbed. It looks like he’s in a very sad situation.

Funnydiva2002 @ 42

mui @ 33

Count on Fox to mix up paranoid schizophrenia and bipolar syndrome. It’s freaking insulting.

Not to defent Fox, by any means, but don’t the two go together sometimes? And have a synergistically bad effect?

FunnyD

No they are different. Where is Kirk when we need a psychiatrist? Manic depressives can go psychotic, but it doesn’t have to happen.

OK, pups

Must go attend to my offline life for awhile…such as it is *g*

See all y’all later.

FunnyDiva

Fox: Another hostage was just released.

eCAHNomics @ 35

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

I don’t know anything about this guy, of course.

But trust me. Plenty of hard core alcoholics have no problem with this.

eCAHNomics @ 35

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

Hey look at Lou Dobbs :)

eCAHNomics @ 54

Fox: Another hostage was just released.

ya, as I said, there were more then the first two according to rhandi rhodes

katherine Graham Cracker @ 56

eCAHNomics @ 35

Fox: He’s been on a 72-hour drinking binge.

Now that’s one I’d wait for confirmation! How could he even stay upright if that were true?

Hey look at Lou Dobbs :)

The preznit looks worse for wear too.

mui @ 52

Funnydiva2002 @ 42

Not to defent Fox, by any means, but don’t the two go together sometimes? And have a synergistically bad effect?

FunnyD

No they are different. Where is Kirk when we need a psychiatrist? Manic depressives can go psychotic, but it doesn’t have to happen.

‘K, thx. though that’s why I said “sometimes”. And you’re right, causality and associations are very complicated.
Maybe I’ll remember to ask Laura Doty later…

(((Mui)))
FunnyDiva

Fox: Troy Stanley may have alias.

katherine Graham Cracker @ 56

Hey look at Lou Dobbs :)

The preznit looks worse for wear too.

Hard drinkin’ will do that to ya.

Ed*ard Teller @ 48

I’ve seen people “go on a drinking binge” far longer than 72 hours. I’ve seen people go on drinking-coke binges for a week, if the money didn’t run out. People who do that don’t live very long lives.

a childhood friend drank herself to death (she was in her 30’s). no coke that i know of…. liver failure finally took it’s toll. very, very sad.

James Pindell of the Boston Globe does not have the name of Eisenberg as the person.
Pete Williams of MSNBC broke the name of Eisenberg.

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

OK, I’ve just reviewed Dinelli’s hyperventilating post and the bill.

“What I’m saying is anything could be defined as force. And since a “planned use of force” is considered a criminal act, if I just sat around and planned out a grassroots campaign, I’d be considered a terrorist.”

Get serious.

Moody’s mood darkens further…

Moody’s Says Citigroup SIV Debt Ratings Under Threat (Update2)

Nov. 30 (Bloomberg) — Moody’s Investors Service said $64.9 billion of debt sold by Citigroup Inc.’s structured investment vehicles was cut or placed on review for a downgrade as part of a review of $130 billion of SIV debt.

Oooh, celebrity names and all!

“In recent weeks, Moody’s has observed material declines in market value across most asset classes in SIV portfolios,” the ratings company said in the statement.

How much is that in dollars?

Citigroup, the largest U.S. bank by assets, provided $7.6 billion of emergency financing to the seven SIVs it runs earlier this month after they were unable to repay maturing debt.

Citigroup, based in New York, created the first SIV in 1988 and is the largest manager.

Wow, it’s like they’re giving money away!

The SIVs’ struggle for survival, and the threat of having their assets dumped on the market, prompted Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to broker talks with Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America Corp. to form an $80 billion fund to help bail them out.

Can anybody play? Pick me! Pick me!

BobbyG @ 47

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

“(899B)(3) The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens.

Those dangerous tooobz!!!

The Internet? A Johnny-come-lately! Lookit what the printing press has done to promote radicalization! To say nothing of video recording devices!

Really we probably ought to ban anything more advanced than cave paintings… and some of THOSE are pretty dangerous, too!

AL-ba-tross!!!

Schizoaffective disorder is a psychiatric disorder involving disturbance of mood and mentation (can look like paranoid schizophrenia, but also there can be depression and/or mania or hypomania). Lithium sometimes is used for such folks.

Leeland Eisenberg

Amazing. I heard this name 5 minutes ago, googled it, and it brought up this post FIRST, just half an hour after the name first was posted @ 14.

Google must have a wire attached to Jane’s poodles.

BobbyG @ 64

joel hanes @ 39

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

OK, I’ve just reviewed Dinelli’s hyperventilating post and the bill.

“What I’m saying is anything could be defined as force. And since a “planned use of force” is considered a criminal act, if I just sat around and planned out a grassroots campaign, I’d be considered a terrorist.”

Get serious.

Ditto!

Fox says it’s Stanley, MSNBC says its Eisenberg.

Funnydiva2002 @ 67

AL-ba-tross!!!

It’s my name, don’t wear it out!

Pens. Has anyone ever considered how dangerous pens are? Mightier than swords, even.

The SIVs’ struggle for survival, and the threat of having their assets dumped on the market, prompted Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to broker talks with Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Bank of America Corp. to form an $80 billion fund to help bail them out.

Wasn’t it 1907 when J.P. Morgan formed a fund to try to bail out Wall St.?

Laura Doty @ 68

Schizoaffective disorder is a psychiatric disorder involving disturbance of mood and mentation (can look like paranoid schizophrenia, but also there can be depression and/or mania or hypomania). Lithium sometimes is used for such folks.

Thanks (Dr) Laura!
Hoo boy, that’s even more complicated than I imagined, and I have a good imagination.

FunnyDiva
maybe I needed a reminder that severe depression isn’t the worst thing to be dealing with…

LS @ 71

Fox says it’s Stanley, MSNBC says its Eisenberg.

Fox said Stanley may have an alias, so perhaps that will resolve the discrepancy.

Albatross @ 65

BobbyG @ 47

Those dangerous tooobz!!!

The Internet? A Johnny-come-lately! Lookit what the printing press has done to promote radicalization! To say nothing of video recording devices!

Really we probably ought to ban anything more advanced than cave paintings… and some of THOSE are pretty dangerous, too!

This Dinelli cat needs to take a fucking chill pill.

Y’know, not too long ago they had this frigging Big Deal Postal Commission thingy. One of their bozo-assed recommendations was requiring sender and recipient ID for all 1st class mail, to combat “terrorism.” Yeah, that really got far.

Turns out Pitney-Bowes essentially wrote that section of the Commission report (they wanted to get the contract).

Albatross @ 72

Funnydiva2002 @ 67

AL-ba-tross!!!

It’s my name, don’t wear it out!

Heh. Knew you’d get it.
FunnyD

Laura Doty @ 73

Pens. Has anyone ever considered how dangerous pens are? Mightier than swords, even.

Especially the top-o-the-line, TRex/Burns/Suzanne coveted kind.
Though I guess it’s also the mind that drives the pen…

FunnyDiva

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

jayt @ 80

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

better then that. watch scarborough laugh out loud at roves allegation…rove is a laughing stock even to republicans

I love it

Though I guess it’s also the mind that drives the pen…
Well, yeah. But, then the Heart has a job (influence) there too.
At least, that’s what I think.
Oh, yeah, and a bunch of other factors, like circumstance and other aspects…..

I live in Rochester, NH. Our local news and paper said it is Leeland Eisenberg. I have no idea where the name Troy Stanley came from. Check out our local paper and tv station..

http://www.fosters.com
http://www.wmur.com

jayt @ 80

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

Heh. McClellan threw Rove and Card under the bus, Rove rolled his eyes over McClellan, and Card throws Rove under the bus. Leahy’s throwing a bunch of them under the bus. Geez.

Okay then. For a secure homeland, we ban printing presses, pens and buses.

LS @ 84

jayt @ 80

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

Heh. McClellan threw Rove and Card under the bus, Rove rolled his eyes over McClellan, and Card throws Rove under the bus. Leahy’s throwing a bunch of them under the bus. Geez.

Boys… we gonna need a bigger bus.

April 6th police blotter: “7:51 p.m. –Leeland Eisenberg, 46, of Milton Road, 16, is charged with two counts of stalking.”

June 11: “With the help of a resident who called to report a suspected drunken driver on Washington Street, police charged Leeland Eisenberg, 46, of 182 Milton Road, Apartment 16, Rochester with driving while intoxicated.”

And a March 20 letter to the editor says:

Rochester police get slap in the face

To the editor:

The Rochester Police Department was trying to be proactive and help the citizen’s of Rochester from thieves and what they got was a slap in the face.

For every minute that Capt. Dumas has to spend dealing with the antics of Leeland Eisenberg it is one less minute he has to spend helping someone with something important. Mr. Eisenberg is wasting the time and the money of the taxpayers.

Police officers risk their life every day helping people, and to make them question if they should put a piece of paper in a car is just wrong.

Why can’t people focus on the important things?

Melissa Picard
Rochester

News accounts say the guy’s unemployed, drunk, going through a divorce and maybe the bomb is road flares.

LS @ 84

jayt @ 80

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

Heh. McClellan threw Rove and Card under the bus, Rove rolled his eyes over McClellan, and Card throws Rove under the bus. Leahy’s throwing a bunch of them under the bus. Geez.

Hmmm…wonder where we can find good bus stock to buy?

eCAHNomics @ 74

Wasn’t it 1907 when J.P. Morgan formed a fund to try to bail out Wall St.?

Fed’s Poole: Market Bailouts and the “Fed Put”

From William Poole, President, St. Louis Fed: Market Bailouts and the “Fed Put”. In this speech, Poole addresses the “Bernanke Put” and the possible moral hazard created by the Fed. Poole defends the Fed and the recent rate cuts. Here is his conclusion:

I can hardly wait…

That the monetary policy principles I have discussed here are unclear to many in the financial markets is unfortunate. Macroeconomic stabilization does not raise moral hazard issues because a stable economy provides no guarantee that individual firms and households will be protected from failure. Improved public understanding of this point will not only help the Fed to do its job more effectively but also will help private sector firms to understand better how to manage risk.

Oh… he says it might not work…

Boston TV (WCVB) just reported the hostage taker as Leland Eisenberg, not Troy Stanley

LS @ 84

jayt @ 80

OfT – video of Andy Card on JoeScar this morning – watch Card’s reaction when JoeScar asks him if it’s true what Rove said about the Democrats pushing the prez into war:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..74779.html

Heh. McClellan threw Rove and Card under the bus, Rove rolled his eyes over McClellan, and Card throws Rove under the bus. Leahy’s throwing a bunch of them under the bus. Geez.

Who is behind the wheel of this bus? They will be needing overtime pay soon.

KinMO @ 91

LS @ 84

Heh. McClellan threw Rove and Card under the bus, Rove rolled his eyes over McClellan, and Card throws Rove under the bus. Leahy’s throwing a bunch of them under the bus. Geez.

Who is behind the wheel of this bus? They will be needing overtime pay soon.

they don’t believe in unions so overtime is not an issue

rticle Date: Friday, March 16, 2007

ROCHESTER — Police have stopped placing fliers in unlocked cars warning residents about motor vehicle thefts after one resident complained his constitutional rights were violated.

Leeland Eisenberg of Gonic is questioning the new police strategy that had officers checking for unlocked vehicles, opening the doors and placing fliers on the driver’s seat urging residents to lock their doors.

…

“What they’re doing is going around during the middle of the night under the pretense they’re looking out for your property rights and they’re telling you ‘we found your car unlocked and you should always lock your car and valuables up, don’t be a victim of property crime,’” Eisenberg said. “Well, I just was a victim of property crime; you entered my vehicle unlawfully without a warrant.”

He’s Jewish. Oh my gosh, this is just terrible for Hillary. We’re doomed. I knew something like this would happen to hurt Hillary’s campaign. This guy wrote a bunch of letters to Hillary Clinton according to CNN only to be ignored. This is just terrible for Hillary…oh my gosh!

well shit – this is no crisis – it didn’t even pre-empt Tucker – dammit.

There goes your thank-you card from me, Mr. Eisenberg, or Stanley, or…

did I mention that Tucker didn’t get pre-empted?

neokneme @ 89

eCAHNomics @ 74

Wasn’t it 1907 when J.P. Morgan formed a fund to try to bail out Wall St.?

Fed’s Poole: Market Bailouts and the “Fed Put”

From William Poole, President, St. Louis Fed: Market Bailouts and the “Fed Put”. In this speech, Poole addresses the “Bernanke Put” and the possible moral hazard created by the Fed. Poole defends the Fed and the recent rate cuts. Here is his conclusion:

I can hardly wait…

That the monetary policy principles I have discussed here are unclear to many in the financial markets is unfortunate. Macroeconomic stabilization does not raise moral hazard issues because a stable economy provides no guarantee that individual firms and households will be protected from failure. Improved public understanding of this point will not only help the Fed to do its job more effectively but also will help private sector firms to understand better how to manage risk.

Oh… he says it might not work…

MSNBC was just reporting that the WH and several Banks have agreed to freeze the impending ARM rate increases, Hmmm… too little, too late…?

neokneme @ 89
IIRC, William Poole of St. Louis Fed, is the stronghold of Chicago School (Friedmanians) economics and is the economics analogue to libertarians, so interpret what he says with a grain of salt.

My experience is that monetary policy is tremendously powerful in bailing ot the economy. There is a mighty moral hazard, of course, which will eventually cause havoc, but that’s for then and now is now.

OT, but of compelling interest to us here at The Lake:

EFF Obtains Documents Detailing High-Level Battles Over Surveillance Law

Part one of the ODNI documents:
http://www.eff.org/files/filen…..odni01.pdf

Part two of the ODNI documents:
http://www.eff.org/files/filen…..odni02.pdf

For more on EFF v. ODNI:
http://www.eff.org/issues/foia/cases/C-07-05278

I even found a picture of Leeland

There’s likely many, many folks out there who are ready to crack under the enormous economic and social pressure under which the Republicans have placed a good portion of this nation under during the last several years. We can spend $12,000,000,000 per month fighting an illegal and immoral so called war. But we can’t, no check that, our government “won’t” deal with things like forclosures, job loss and perhaps most importantly, mental and physical health. It’s downright criminal.

Mad Dogs @ 98

OT, but of compelling interest to us here at The Lake:

EFF Obtains Documents Detailing High-Level Battles Over Surveillance Law

Part one of the ODNI documents:
http://www.eff.org/files/filen…..odni01.pdf

Part two of the ODNI documents:
http://www.eff.org/files/filen…..odni02.pdf

For more on EFF v. ODNI:
http://www.eff.org/issues/foia/cases/C-07-05278

Far out, MD!

This is interesting…

In one letter, Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV claims that McConnell made “assurances” and “agreements” that were not carried out, and says, “I and others involved in these important and intense FISA negotiations are left to question whether the negotiations were carried out in good faith or whether your commitments were overruled by others at the White House or within the Administration.” Senator Sheldon Whitehouse also expressed “deeply felt displeasure with the administration’s legislative strategy on the recent ‘FISA Fix’” and says that the Protect America Act was passed “at a substantial price, one that will be paid in rancor, suspicion and distrust.”

Eisenberg/Stanley

Trying to track this down, some reports say they’ve talked to Eisenberg’s son-in-law (but those do not name the son-in-law), so it’s possible his name is Troy Stanley Jr., leading some news organizations to mistake son-in-law for son. Just an hypothesis.

somebody is surrendering….

edit: CNN

jayt @ 103

somebody is surrendering….

edit: CNN

Yes

Hostage taker surrendered.

Jane Hamsher @ 34

dakine01 @ 30

Well Hey! If you want, I’ll take credit for ‘em! ;})

Thanks, Dakine!

This makes up for the Red Sox.

huh? Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought your marriage to the Yankees was one of convenience, or blue (non-tinfoil) hattery. If I am wrong, and if, perchance, you want to make up with (as opposed to for) the Red Sox –who (I am boasting here) hosted Sen. Dodd during the playoffs and have exhibited among other indicators of progressiveness–there are forms available for Yankee to Red Sox conversion (for real!).

Before I get my Red Sox hat handed to me along with my (red) head by our esteemed traditional opponents, let me explain that I am seeking and, I hope, offering some light relief from the tense situation in our neighboring state and equal partner with the BlueState in Red Sox nation.

he gave up
http://www.wmur.com/video/14738085/index.html

eCAHNomics @ 105

Hostage surrendered.

Yeah, no one was hurt or injured…! 8-)

Poor man. Poor hostages.

Wonder how long it will take the delusional Bill ‘O and Rush to conclude the man in the Clinton office caper today was a “plant”? There are ocassions that I wonder when O’Reilly and Limbaugh will “go postal”.

Pheeewww. Glad it worked out peacefully.

All’s well that ends well.

I wonder what chicanery and evildoing BushCheneyCo was up to while TradMed’s focus was on a small campaign office in New Hampshire….

CNN: Got several telephone calls from Eisenberg this afternoon. Didn’t report it at the time so as not to compromise the operation. He claimed he wasn’t geting the mental health treatment he required.

eCAHNomics @ 105

Hostage taker surrendered.

Um, er, the hostages were released.
The Suspect surrendured.
(Not to be nitpicky, but…)
Blitzer is gushing…thank god.
He’s been so excited all afternoon.
He prolly wished it went on for a while. Now, he has to cover some Other Story.
And, I say, Thank God Anderson Cooper didn’t cry.

BlueStateRedHead @ 106

Jane Hamsher @ 34

Thanks, Dakine!

This makes up for the Red Sox.

huh? Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought your marriage to the Yankees was one of convenience, or blue (non-tinfoil) hattery. If I am wrong, and if, perchance, you want to make up with (as opposed to for) the Red Sox –who (I am boasting here) hosted Sen. Dodd during the playoffs and have exhibited among other indicators of progressiveness–there are forms available for Yankee to Red Sox conversion (for real!).

Before I get my Red Sox hat handed to me along with my (red) head by our esteemed traditional opponents, let me explain that I am seeking and, I hope, offering some light relief from the tense situation in our neighboring state and equal partner with the BlueState in Red Sox nation.

Please Jane, put that Yankee hat down and step away slowly… Come on over from the Darkside… ;-) Go BoSox!

Wolfie’s reporting that the hostage was on the phone with CNN several times today, and looks to me to be in danger of spraining an arm patting himself on the back for having had the plain common sense to have not reported it on the air.

Sorry, ECAHN,
guess it was fixed before I made this picky point.

Oklahoma kiddo @ 100

There’s likely many, many folks out there who are ready to crack under the enormous economic and social pressure under which the Republicans have placed a good portion of this nation under during the last several years. We can spend $12,000,000,000 per month fighting an illegal and immoral so called war. But we can’t, no check that, our government “won’t” deal with things like forclosures, job loss and perhaps most importantly, mental and physical health. It’s downright criminal.

Gee, O.K. that’s because foreclosures, job loss, mental and physical health problems are only the provenance of the non-praying non-christofacist amongst us. By Jeebus man, get a grip!

And as for that war, why it’s going swimmingly well, just ask St. John McCain… there’s never been a better war five years in… defense contractors getting rich right and right, now how is that bad for America?

oliver @ 94

He’s Jewish. Oh my gosh, this is just terrible for Hillary. We’re doomed. I knew something like this would happen to hurt Hillary’s campaign. This guy wrote a bunch of letters to Hillary Clinton according to CNN only to be ignored. This is just terrible for Hillary…oh my gosh!

Could you possibly explain why this is terrible?

Tuttle, what a great idea for Jane. She’ll she the light someday and come over to the Sox side.

“the clown commentator on msgop just claimed the human bomb is a libretarian

and then went on to say he has defeated his goal of less government….”

bangs head on wall.

Leeland Eisenberg is a nut. Good thing we have skilled police under the Bush administration. Could you imagine all the nuts that would be roaming around the streets if Hillary was president.

JPL @ 120

Tuttle, what a great idea for Jane. She’ll she the light someday and come over to the Sox side.

We can always hope…! ;-)

Donita is spinning upstairs…

Wow, they didn’t even tackle him like he was Rev. Yearwood.

Is it my imagination or do we have a fungus troll among us?

and an incoherent one at that.

I am very glad no one was hurt, but is it just me or does this remind anyone of the anthrax attacks right before the passage of the Patriot Act in Oct. 2001?

We have the S 1959 “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007″ waiting in committee and it just passed the House 404 to 6.

And the guy being interviewed said that this guy (he was “told”) was into “conspiracy theories and such”.

http://willyloman.wordpress.co…..triot-act/

BlueStateRedHead @ 119

oliver @ 94

He’s Jewish. Oh my gosh, this is just terrible for Hillary. We’re doomed. I knew something like this would happen to hurt Hillary’s campaign. This guy wrote a bunch of letters to Hillary Clinton according to CNN only to be ignored. This is just terrible for Hillary…oh my gosh!

Could you possibly explain why this is terrible?

The media, being stupid as it is, will say she was ignoring voters. Or some other assign crap that they’ll make up.

Is blue state redhead also oliver?

Oklahoma kiddo @ 100

There’s likely many, many folks out there who are ready to crack under the enormous economic and social pressure under which the Republicans have placed a good portion of this nation under during the last several years. We can spend $12,000,000,000 per month fighting an illegal and immoral so called war. But we can’t, no check that, our government “won’t” deal with things like forclosures, job loss and perhaps most importantly, mental and physical health. It’s downright criminal.

Amen, Kiddo. I ran the maintenance dept at a big local realtor till the housing slump eliminated the department. Unemployment ran out last week so I’ve resorted to blegging just to get December shelter/utility bills paid.

If I don’t get a job soon, I’ll be Net-less, selling off the furnishings, trying to eke out one more month after that.

Fortunately, my mental health precludes any rash actions and I know I can resort to couch-hopping or carcamping, if need be. But when I see the online fundraising for a lot of marginal politicians who’ll go nowhere, it do get discouraging spending a month begging and only drawing $600 in donations.

And when I go apply for mediocre minimum wage jobs, I get told “sorry, you’re overqualified”. And I am, but the cycle downward doesn’t offer many nets beyond friends, depending on their capacity and who you got lucky enough to know.

Albatross @ 72

Funnydiva2002 @ 67

AL-ba-tross!!!

It’s my name, don’t wear it out!

Albatross, I’ve been getting lost rummaging around your website for the first time. I love it!

Kevin, that sux! I agree, often times it’s not what you know, but, who you know…!

oliver @ 122

Leeland Eisenberg is a nut. Good thing we have skilled police under the Bush administration. Could you imagine all the nuts that would be roaming around the streets if Hillary was president.

Wow, So Bush trained the Rochester SWAT team, eh? AS I recall, it was Clinton who added 100,000 police to the streets. Bush cut that number.

But facts have never been the province of trolls who hang out and try to gain notice by farting prodigiously. Attention gotten. I rate it a 1.5 for noise and a solid 8.0 for repulsive odor.

DISCLAIMER: No Republican was harmed in the filming of this made-for-TV dramatization of a mental health issue.

“leland eisenberg” is a card carrying neocon, look it up!

Hang in there Kevin Hayden. People are pulling for you. (And let everyone you know KNOW what you’re looking for. 6 degrees of separation is a powerful thing…someone who can help you may be nearer than you think!)

oliver @ 122

Leeland Eisenberg is a nut. Good thing we have skilled police under the Bush administration. Could you imagine all the nuts that would be roaming around the streets if Hillary was president.

Time required for a wingnut loser to try to score political points off somebody else’s tragedy: virtually none.

EvilDrPuma @ 137

oliver @ 122

Leeland Eisenberg is a nut. Good thing we have skilled police under the Bush administration. Could you imagine all the nuts that would be roaming around the streets if Hillary was president.

Time required for a wingnut loser to try to score political points off somebody else’s tragedy: virtually none.

And can you imagine all the nuts who wouldn’t be roaming around the streets if St Ronnie of Raygun hadn’t decided their families should take care of them because the State has no responsibility to do so?

FunnyD

Ronnie and his other half made multo bucks emptying the CA state mental hospitals of patients when he was guv….it ’tweren’t simply washing state’s hands of responsibility–it was crossing his palms with silver (and he blessed himself every way, she said with apologies to Shakespeare).

Laura Doty @ 139

Ronnie and his other half made multo bucks emptying the CA state mental hospitals of patients when he was guv….it ’tweren’t simply washing state’s hands of responsibility–it was crossing his palms with silver (and he blessed himself every way, she said with apologies to Shakespeare).

I think I was a bit young at the time to notice, even though I’m a Cali girl. Plus I come from a winger/fundy parental environment. But when he pulled the same stunt nationally years later, it was hard to ignore.

My contempt for someone who profits by denying people the help they need and throwing them out on the street knows no bounds. May they rot in the deepest circle of whichever hell they believe in.

Not that being institutionalized was always a picnic in the rose garden.

FunnyD

but tom said just the other day…

DeLay’s health care lie (Nov 12, 2007)
Worst Person: Tom DeLay described the U.S. health care system saying, “There’s no one denied health care in America.”

http://www.olbermann.org/ko/index.cfm

so much for ‘da hammer’ being right, when is he going to jail?

joel hanes @ 40

Folks, while entertaining, this spectacle isn’t important.

What is important?

The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, Senate Bill 1959, is about to be voted on.

We’re about to lose what remains of freedom of speech in America.

Hat-tip to Jeff Dinelli at The Left Coaster for publicizing this.

You know what to do.

Very intresting………

It’s sad that any t.v. grabbing event like this is bound to get us all paranoid about what government is doing concurrently without t.v. coverage. Oh how we’ve been let down in the past.