Is this thing on?
Hi. I’m Julia, and I’m new (when I get to it, I blog here). Anyway, as long as I have you all here, I thought I’d take advantage of the opportunity to put in a bid for my favorite Giuliani scandal, which I think is being unjustly neglected.
It was doing so well, too. Remember this, from last week, when Mr. Kerik was indicted?
Bernard Kerik did an irresponsible job training police in Iraq, presidential contender John McCain said Friday, adding to criticism of Kerik as Rudy Giuliani’s former police commissioner surrendered to face charges in New York.
McCain cited Kerik’s relationship with his Republican presidential foe as a reason to doubt Giuliani’s judgment.
Giuliani’s longtime associate, business partner and friend surrendered Friday to face federal corruption charges in New York, where he had been police commissioner when Giuliani was mayor. Kerik was also a failed nominee to head the Homeland Security Department, a post Giuliani recommended him for.
McCain, a Republican senator from Arizona, pointed to Kerik’s performance in Iraq, along with complaints about how Giuliani treated first-responders after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, as reasons why the former mayor’s presidential campaign should deserve greater scrutiny from voters.
…
McCain campaigned on Friday with Tom Ridge, the former governor of Pennsylvania and the nation’s first secretary of homeland security under President Bush.
“It was clear the mayor and I had a different view what the department does and the kind of leadership it needed,” Ridge told reporters. “His judgment would’ve been different than mine.”
He said the situation reflected a fundamental misunderstanding by Giuliani of how the U.S. government works.
“We’re not talking about some urban city patronage job,” Ridge told The Associated Press. “That’s not what a Cabinet secretary’s about.”
Mr. Giuliani’s campaign wasn’t the least bit happy about that
Randy Mastro, a former New York deputy mayor, said it was unfair to base an opinion of Giuliani on one incident, citing his record as mayor on crime, jobs and cutting taxes.
“It’s no fair to judge Rudy Giuliani on the basis of this one issue (any more) than it is to judge John McCain in the basis of the Keating scandal,” said Mastro, who worked in Giuliani’s administration. He added: “All the candidates should be judged on the totality of their records, not on any one single issue or incident.
Only it sorta faded out after that, which is when it occured to me that you folks who aren’t from New York might not be enjoying this as much as I am. I feel bad about that, particularly since so many of the people who were involved are prominent in Mr. Giuliani’s campaign.
So, here you go: a brief history of the Kerik unpleasantness.
Bernie Kerik, a high school dropout with a complicated past started out as Giuliani’s bodyguard and driver, which apparently qualified him to become the head of Corrections and then Police Commissioner (Our Beloved Former Mayor is nothing if not a man who appreciates singleminded devotion to Our Beloved Former Mayor).
Unfortunately for all concerned, Mr. Kerik’s devotion to his patron shared space with an equally fierce devotion to his own financial advancement. To that end, he got in contact with a friend, Mr. Ray.
Mr. Kerik earned $150,500 as commissioner but pleaded poverty. He turned to Lawrence V. Ray, a friend of a few years, who had an engaging manner and a big bankroll.
In 1998, Mr. Ray was the best man at Mr. Kerik’s wedding — and paid for much of the event. Weeks later, Mr. Kerik recommended Mr. Ray for a $100,000 job with Interstate Industrial Corporation, a New Jersey-based construction firm with tens of millions of dollars in city contracts.
Two years earlier, the owners, Peter and Frank DiTommaso, had paid more than $1 million to buy a transfer station from Edward Garafola, a mob soldier, and hoped to obtain a city operating license. But city investigators had found that the company employed mob figures and used mob-controlled trucking firms.
The DiTommasos, who adamantly and repeatedly have denied any ties to organized crime, hoped Mr. Ray could help resolve their problem with the Giuliani administration. Soon after being hired, Mr. Ray took Frank DiTommaso to meet with his friend the correction commissioner.
and why would Kerik put up with that?
Well, cynics thought it might have something to do with the fact that, after quite a bit of whining from Mr. Kerik, Mr. Ray paid for his wedding.
for many years, one of Kerik’s main benefactors was Lawrence Ray, the best man at Kerik’s 1998 wedding, according to Ray, other sources and checks shown by Ray to The News.
Ray and another Kerik pal, restaurant owner Carmen Cabell, helped bankroll Kerik’s 1998 wedding reception, contributing nearly $10,000.
Ray also gave Kerik nearly $2,000 to buy a bejeweled Tiffany badge that Kerik coveted when he was Correction commissioner.
And Ray said he gave Kerik $4,300 more to buy high-end Bellini furniture when Kerik allegedly griped that he couldn’t afford to furnish a bedroom for a soon-to-be born daughter.
and who are the DiTommasos? Jersey Gaming Enforcement had some stuff to say about that when they wanted to go to work in Atlantic City
The Attorney General noted that the complaint outlines how Gaming Enforcement presented information at the original Interstate hearing, and has since developed further information, that the DiTommaso brothers had ties to the DeCavalcante and Gambino organized crime families dating back to the 1980s. The complaint also charges that the DiTommasos gave false information to Division investigators in an attempt to mislead them concerning the DiTommasos’ relationship with former New York Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik, who was nominated as the United States Secretary of Homeland Security.
According to the complaint, Joseph Watts, a Gambino associate, and Dominic Borghese, a Gambino solider, met in the 1980s with Frank and Peter DiTommaso and were paid $60,000 for “protection,” including the handling of any union problems that arose at Interstate. The protection money was paid in two $30,000 installments, once in the summer and once at Christmas time.
In another instance outlined in the complaint, Anthony Capo, a cooperating witness for the federal government, had a conversation with another organized crime associate, Anthony Rotondo, in which Rotondo told Capo: “The DiTommasos were ‘with’ the DeCavalcante Family and its boss, John Riggi.” Capo was given employment by Frank DiTommaso at the recommendation of Rotondo, according to the complaint.
In the 1990s, Capo attempted to obtain work as a subcontractor for Interstate, but Capo was told by Watts that Capo could not get work because Interstate had become associated with the Gambino Family of LCN [La Cosa Nostra] through Watts.
In December 2004, a federal jury in New York convicted Peter Gotti and Thomas “Huck” Carbonaro on numerous counts, including Gambino Family racketeering involving corruption within the construction industry in New York. Three “made” members: Rotondo, Michael “Mickey Scars” DiLeonardo, a Gambino capo, and Frank Fappiano, a Gambino soldier, provided testimony for the Federal Government about “longstanding and knowing ties among the DiTommasos, Interstate and organized crime.”
“The Division presented evidence during the Interstate hearing in 2004 that the DiTommasos had a relationship with more than a dozen members and associates of organized crime and multiple organized crime-related businesses,” Director Auriemma said. “These witnesses’ testimony corroborates and substantiates much of the information that was presented by the Division at the hearing in 2004.”
On the other hand, they did give jobs to Mr. Ray and Mr. Kerik’s brother, so he overlooked all that, and he was a great help to them
In July 1999, Mr. Kerik met in a bar with Raymond V. Casey, then the chief city regulator investigating Interstate, and another man, then the Correction Department inspector general, to talk about Interstate, according to court papers filed by New Jersey regulators. At that meeting, Mr. Kerik vouched for Mr. Ray’s integrity, and said he could be helpful to regulators in “alleviating their concerns about Interstate,” the court papers said.
Several months later, Mr. Kerik made his Correction Department office available for Mr. Ray to meet with two New York police investigators, a detective and a sergeant, who were assigned to Mr. Casey’s office and investigating Interstate.
Mr. Casey didn’t approve Interstate for contracts. Mr. Casey (and Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mastro) also said he never told Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Mastro, which seems a bit irresponsible of him, since Mr. Casey was a city official, Mr. Mastro was his boss, and Mr. Giuliani was (still is, I imagine) his cousin.
Mr. Mastro (now of the Giuliani campaign) has an Interstate connection of his own
Interstate Industrial Corporation hired former deputy mayor Randy Mastro, who served as Giuliani’s top gun in chasing down mobbed up outfits doing business with the city. But Mastro said he never told his former boss—or anyone else—about what he learned of Kerik’s dealings with the firm, including the former top cop’s recommendation to the company that it hire a close pal named Larry Ray, who was later indicted in a mob stock fraud scam.
“Larry Ray predated my time. That had already occurred; he was gone,” Mastro said. “There was no retrospective review.”
Giuliani has said he knew nothing about Kerik’s connection to Interstate until the recent explosion of news reports in the wake of Kerik’s decision to withdraw as President Bush’s nominee for Homeland Security director—a post he initially won with Giuliani’s enthusiastic backing.
Mastro said he learned about Kerik’s association with Interstate during his “two or three years” with the firm as a kind of inside watchdog, reviewing new deals and hires for any mob taint.
“At some point I was told by people at the company [about Kerik],” he said. “I don’t recall exactly when.”
Asked if he ever discussed the matter with Giuliani, Mastro said: “No. It wasn’t an issue that I ever discussed with anyone.”
which is to say that Matro knew about Kerik’s issues when he endorsed him for Homeland Security Commissioner.
Of course, so did fellow DiTommaso supporter (and Giuliani NY campaign chair) Guy Molinari
Records reveal that Molinari signed up in April as a
$25,000-per-month lobbyist to represent Interstate Industrial Corporation, a company owned by two sons of a longtime friend and accused of doing business with the mob. The client is one of at least seven firms that have retained Molinari over the past year to represent their interests before city officials, filings in the City Clerk’s office show.…
Although he has met with only mixed success—the city’s rejection of the allegedly mobbed-up firm was not overturned—records show Molinari has parlayed his connections into a lucrative lobbying practice.
…
Molinari said customers have sought him out, not the other way around. The reason? “We are good at what we do,” he said. Some clients, like Interstate Industrial Corporation, were already friends.
Interstate is the same firm that former city police commissioner Bernard Kerik advocated for while in office, and Molinari told the Voice that he went to bat for the company because he believed that owners Frank and Peter DiTommaso were “good people. I know them since they were kids.” Molinari, 76, said that he had spent 40 years playing handball and volleyball with the DiTommasos’ father and an uncle at a Mariner’s Harbor athletic club the men jointly founded. “We had loads of fun,” said Molinari. He is so close to the family, he added, that he was named godfather to a third son, David DiTommaso.
“Guy is a lifelong friend,” Interstate president Frank DiTommaso told the Voice. “He knows me and my family intimately. He felt very bad for the way we were treated,” he said.
But the agreement Molinari signed on April 29 to represent the DiTommasos was strictly business. The two-page letter called for the Molinari Group, as the former politician’s firm is called, to provide “general consulting services” over a one-year period in exchange for a monthly $25,000 retainer plus expenses. At the time, Interstate had been rejected by three separate city agencies that cited a series of company transactions with members of the Gambino crime family. The company had appealed those determinations, but they were upheld by Bloomberg administration officials early last year.
The brothers then turned to Molinari.
“They had an interest in trying to be able to get back in good standing with the City of New York in terms of bidding for future work,” he said. “I believe they had a very good record with the city in the past.” To that end, Molinari said, he arranged meetings with Bloomberg aides on Interstate’s behalf.
On July 14, city officials confirm, Molinari, the DiTommaso brothers, and their lawyers met with Department of Investigation commissioner Rose Gill Hearn and two top aides. Randy Mastro, who served as an anti-mob troubleshooter for the Giuliani administration and who was later hired by the DiTommasos to screen employees and subcontractors, also showed up at the meeting to vouch for the company’s current operations. But DOI officials told the DiTommasos that in order to be “rehabilitated” they would have to acknowledge past misdeeds and take on an outside monitor to watchdog all future work.
Molinari said they got the same message at a subsequent meeting with Marla Simpson, the director of the Mayor’s Office of Contract Services. “Essentially, we were advised after some time that it was not doable,” Molinari said.
What city officials didn’t tell Molinari or his clients, however, was that they had already received a preview of information concerning Interstate from a pair of mob informants who were due to take the stand at the murder conspiracy trial of Gambino boss Peter Gotti. One of those witnesses, Michael “Mikey Scars” DiLeonardo, testified in December that he “serviced” the DiTommasos for the Gambino crew, taking payoffs of more than $100,000 to help them avoid using union labor. DiLeonardo said some of the payoffs were laundered through a dirt-hauling firm that he later sold to the DiTommasos for $1.7 million.
Molinari said that after the city’s rejection he ceased representing the company, but that he remained a supporter. “We tried our best,” he said. “I still believe [the DiTommasos] are very responsible people.”
In December, Molinari spoke out in defense of the DiTommasos after it was reported that Kerik had gotten the company to hire his brother and a close pal. But Molinari never mentioned his own paid work on behalf of the company.
A great deal of this came out, you may remember, when neither Mr. Giuliani nor anyone working for him saw fit to mention any of this to Mr. Gonzales, who was vetting Mr. Kerik to be the head of Homeland Security.
Oddly, they’re still not bringing it up.
Where are they now? Well, Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Kerik, Mr. Mastro, and Mr. Molinari you know about.
The DiTommaso brothers go on trial for perjury in a Bronx court next week (they denied paying for Mr. Kerik’s home renovations. He rolled over on them for a misdemeanor plea). They’re currently doing construction on on Yankee Stadium for great and good Giuliani friend Mr. Steinbrenner.
Also this particular scandal doesn’t put you at risk of having a mental image of the current Mrs. Giuliani.
Can’t argue with that.



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Hi, Julia!
hey Julia – welcome to Late Nite
and Snarky!
SnarKassandra @ 3
lol :)
Doing my best Chris Crocker impression:
Leave Bernie Kerik alone!
-GSD
OK Cassie! Now go back and read the whole thing.
Hi Julia! I am Cassie. Welcome!
Giuliani is a freak.
Good post, Julia!
I’m only “sort of” here, it’s the end of the month and there’s much work to do…but, Hi!
wangdangdoodle @ 11
Well Duh! He is a republican!
Ooooh, keepin’ the pressure on! Love it, Julia.
Hey, is Guy Molinari Susan Molinari’s daddy? Chipette off the ol’ block.
Wow, Julia! Quite a mouthful…! *g*
wangdangdoodle @ 11
si signora!
Welcome, Julia! My daughter’s best friend is named Julia. (although she calls her hulia).
SnarKassandra @ 13
It does seem to be a prerequisite.
Welcome, Julia!
hello, Julia…
Wow! headspinning…!
I don’t think it’s too early for some Christmas music.
I wanna know Rudy’s position on shrub’s doozer of a pronunciation on how to fight AIDS today:
“Faith-based groups like these are the foot soldiers in the armies of compassion,” he said. “They are helping to defeat this epidemic one soul at a time.”
…..even for shrub, this one was special. Safe a soul, fight the epidemic.
A little ‘Changes’ is nice too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related
Great stuff!
There’s enough fun here without “the Judiths” but they do make the whole scene sleazier (even when you don’t have to look at them).
Wouldn’t you love to sit in on the depositions in Regan’s lawsuit, assuming it gets that far?
Welcome to Late Night!
YOUTHinkLeft is back up and I have a new post at my place.
Way too much to unpack here.
Guy Molinari http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Molinari U.S. rep from Staten Island, succeded by his daughter Susan Molinari, who resigned in 1997.
cassie, your ‘my place’ link is to this page at the lake
Prairie Sunshine @ 14
Yeah, sure is, and he’s a piece of work. The Times beat him up a few years ago for wading into a judicial campaign and announcing that the Democratic candidate wasn’t morally fit for public office because she’s a lesbian.
I don’t want to fill up the thread – thank you as a group. Nice to be here.
IIRC, Susan Molinari married another rep. and they both later left the House. They are now lobbyists….fitting.
Thanks Suzanne. I fixed it.
Thought I was going nuts when Kenrik resigned after 3 months of Iraqi troop training, claiming he had done his job. Followed by Sec of Homeland Security. Both of those were during my pre-FDL days, so I had no reality checks.
Julia @ 29
so, were you warned about us here on late nite? (laughing)
SnarKassandra @ 1
Hey – you probably don’t remember, but we crossed comments here a few months ago. It’s nice to see you again.
The pressure of increasing data is building in the lefty blogs; any guess if/when the MSM dam on this stuff will break?
Thought I was going nuts when Kenrik resigned after 3 months of Iraqi troop training, claiming he had done his job.
fill wheelbarrow.
wheelbarrow to plane.
plane go bye bye.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
either that or he figured the jig was up and they were onto his lying application.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
bricks of cash?
Blub @ 22
good lord.
soldiers army = compassion
epidemic faith = defeat
Jane (nyc) @ 30
Suzie and her husband, Mr. Paxon, are hooked up with one of the groups that laundered Abramoff money for Republican congressmen.
He’s best known for being the only member of the Republican leadership who was fired for the attempted coup against Gingrich (as well as an unusual number of rumors about his personal life)
Personally, he’s always pissed me off because he got a lot of press for being A New Man because he took his daughter to work once a week and let his staff take care of her.
Welcome Julia, and thanks for filling in so many “John Doe” blanks wrt the indictment, which I am updating right now! Do you know who the “wealthy Israeli industrialist whose companies did business with the federal government” is?
I’ve been waiting and waiting for this stuff to get out — thank you Julia. These guys are just gangsters.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 36
Hmmm… I wonder how many duffel bags he left with, duffel bags are traditionally not inspected by the USAF… ;-)
bricks of cash?
artifacts from the baghdad museums
manuscripts from the libraries
rare ancient stuff
looted for private collectors
like quantrell’s raiders on the loose
or maybe
the james gang without any robin hood mythologizing
Hiya and welcome, Julia. Gonna love me some more of this kind of stuff!
I swear to goD, I’m so tired of the politics of who’s got their c*ck where and for how much. Won’t somebody think of the children?
btw; this is an amazingly informative thread.
what details about ghouliani’s new york.
man that guy is so………….tony soprano
Julia @ 40
Susan’s wiki ends with saying that she might be a R candidate for NYC mayor in 10. Bwahahahaha.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Molinari
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 46
but not as nice.
the names in the current stories are Eitan Wertheimer and Shimon Cohen
tony was likeable ……if you didn’t fook with him………
Suzanne @ 33
Nah, I’ve been reading here for ages.
Julia!
Good to see you here and congrats!
I hope you don’t mind if I also take a hit off that Giuliani schadenfreude bong you’re passin’ around.
Fwwwwwwwwwwwwwph!
(In a Gene Wilder/Waco Kid falsetto) Ohhh my, but that’s good! :)
Julia @ 51
We may bite… ;-)
Welcome, Julia!
Re: Kerik’s short stay in Iraq, I can’t find the link but I saw a story this week quoting one of his co-workers there who said Kerik planned the three months from the get-go. Kerik’s computer had, as screensaver, a photo of his new house under construction, to be finished in three months.
“So you’re basically in Iraq until your house is ready,” the co-worker said to him, and Kerik supposedly answered with a nod and a wink.
CTuttle @ 53
i only bite cookies
CTuttle @ 53
ct, don’t make me put my hands on my hips now… ya gotta make nice for her first post here on friday nites so she comes back next week
LowerManhattanite @ 52
I know not that of which you speak :(
Hey, hon. Nice to see you.
Julia @ 49
Duly noted. Thank you!
OT, but when I see something like this go up late on a Friday, I know something’s up:
“Dems Reach Deal on Energy Bill”
And sho nuff…
Meanwhile it became increasingly likely – though not yet certain – that Democratic leaders will abandon attempts to repeal nearly $16 billion in tax breaks to the oil industry as had been approved by the House earlier this year
And as usual, the “compromises” essentially make this bill meaningless. 35mpg in the next decade or two?!?! Does Detroit not see the Japanese companies profiting immensely from hybrids while Detroit loses billions each Quarter? Oh, and newsflash to Big Auto: The “green movement” is growing rapidly and showing signs it’s just getting started.
Seems clear that the public is demanding better environmental products, especially autos. In fact, the market is proving that. Yet, the old auto companies still seem completely obblivious to this fact, and are trying to conduct business in the same ways that have driven them into financial ruin.
Roger Smith, from Michael Moore’s “Roger & Me,” just died, and Detroit seems intent on following suit. I guess we’ll just hope Toyota, Honda, etc. keep opening factories in America as they have been, and providing many good-paying jobs for Americans. Now we just need to get unions organized at more of these plants.
I keep hearing New Yorkers snigger and say you just wait, there’s more, you’re gonna love it.
I just can’t get over how blatant they are. It’s been in the papers, it’s old news, do they honestly think no one will remember, and if it does come up they can make it go away, just like that?
Oh, look…they’ve just re-re-re-arrested those Dutch guys in Aruba.
Suzanne @ 56
Aww, I wouldn’t scare ‘em off, I enjoy the cat-’n-mouse too much… *g*
LowerManhattanite @ 52
i had been wondering how to type that sound (laughing – thanks)
Thank you, Julia, for a very informative post.
is that LowerManhattanite from GroupNewsBlog in the thread? Wow! One of my current blogging heros.
Good evening all. Welcome Julia.
Just saw this on the same topic:
Kerik Approved “Security” Detail For Rudy’s Girlfriend’s Family
from TalkLeft by Big Tent Democrat
Via Kagro, it gets worse:
[Rudy Giuliani’s then- girlfriend when he was married to Donna Hanover, Judi] Nathan’s detail was approved by the NYPD after a stranger made an unspecified threat to her. The commissioner at the time was Bernard Kerik, who was recently indicted on tax fraud charges in an unrelated matter. “It wasn’t about her being the mayor’s girlfriend,” Kerik said. “The person spoke to her by name and made comments to her.”
Kerik signed off on all of this. Makes Rudy’s support for Kerik, even after being informed of his alleged criminal activities, easier to understand.
http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r…..3289584/24
Meanwhile it became increasingly likely – though not yet certain – that Democratic leaders will abandon attempts to repeal nearly $16 billion in tax breaks to the oil industry as had been approved by the House earlier this year
im personally consumed by nancymania, and harrymania
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 65
mania or anger?
CD @ 54
Now I’m not surprised, but boy was I shocked at the time. How quickly we learn to be cynical.
angermania!!!
Hi Betsy! Saw fire trucks at your school Wednesday evening on my way home.
Ah yes, it was a drill.
TexBetsy @ 70
Sure made me slow down and do the speed limit!
;)
TexBetsy @ 70
TB, did you do snacks, by any chance? If so, I missed them. In the mood for somthing salty.
Big Brother is watching me. Gotta go to bed. Ugh!
Bye.
For your listening pleasure.
SnarKassandra @ 72
a chance from aunt petunia (laughing) g’nite cassie
Sweet dreams, Cassie.
(((Mwah!)))
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 68
Hopefully you’re not pulling yer hair out, otherwise you might hafta bust into the Shack’s inventory.
SnarKassandra @ 73
G’nite, Cassie.
Once she split from hubby Bruce, Ms. Nathan was so blatantly manhunting that she probably had not yet learned how to “turn it off”. I’ll bet Rudy wanted her monitored.
He was probably worried she would be as bad as he is. Am certain his minions reported on her behavior.
The real victim during this time was her poor daughter. She had a really rough go of it.
SnarKassandra @ 72
They’re most intrusive, aren’t they… Nite, Missie!
Tortilla soup. (We had some for dinner.) Feel free to add corn chips.
Jane (nyc) @ 79
Jane
A few of us are planning a NYC meet up. Date TBD. Would you like to join us?
much nicer looking than the chicken tortilla soup i had wed. thanks tex
TexBetsy @ 80
With the avocado? Yummm…
TexBetsy @ 81
That looks fabulous. Thanks.
i wonder if judy (i refuse to call her judith) is screeching in rudy’s ears with ‘i told you to be more careful but no, you had it taken care of and covered and i’ll never be able to wear my tiara like nancy raygun‘
eCAHNomics @ 82
Would love to if I’m in town. Continue to be stuck in rural NC tending to my elderly mother.
Talk about living a dichotomous life! Would love to meet up if I’m around. I’m glued to the keyboard down here. The FDLers are preserving my sanity.
wangdangdoodle @ 74
I have missed you, WWD! I didn’t know Dinah Shore had it in her!
Jane (nyc) @ 79
Jane, where do you live? I grew up in Manhattan, and I’m still in the city limits, but I’m afraid I’m tunnel traffic now.
OTOH, there’s the back yard thing. I never appreciated, as a city kid, that if you have yard all the snow that falls in it is Your Snow.
bonkers @ 59
U.S. corporations, their boards, and their CEOs are judged on near-term dividends.
Jane (nyc) @ 87
OK. email me at rosannecahn at aol dot com. I’ll keep you on the list, and if you’re here, all the better. We have 3 now, hoping for a couple more.
Suzanne @ 86
hehehe! Let the mascara flow down the face.
Jane (nyc) @ 87
Bless you, for your sacrifice… *g*
So Julia, you’re in metro area too? Would you like to join a FDL meet-up? My email is in 91.
Julia @ 89
Live on the UWS but have worked downtown and kid went to school on UES. Have pretty much traversed the city on a daily basis in the 26 years there.
Whew! What a day, huh? Lordy.
Loo Hoo. @ 88
Me too you and me neither!
Loo Hoo. @ 95
yeap, a week of highs and lows but its friday night and the weekend is finally here
Wigwam, speaking of sacrifice, “Democratic leaders will abandon attempts to repeal nearly $16 billion in tax breaks to the oil industry as had been approved by the House earlier this year.”
Nice to see our newly elected Majority cave once again… 8-(
Loo Hoo. @ 96
What, what did I miss ?!! *g*
Welcome Julia !
Evenin’ all !
CTuttle @ 99
(spitting) forkers
hey petro, you shortened your name?
Suzanne @ 102
Sorry Suz, too tired to notice.
CTuttle @ 99
I swear, the cynic in me is starting to believe that all this illegal domestic communications surveillance has been to “get the goods” on Demo congress people. That, or there some secret neutering operations have been going on.
Suzanne @ 86
Pipe dreams of White House State dinners…
Don’t know how to find the audio, but I’ve a proposal for a theme song: Hold on, Change is Coming. Sounds of Blackness sings it. A great song for a Friday late nite, perhaps? A great song for an overarching theme for what we’re growing for 2008?
CTuttle @ 99
Hey Buddy, how’s life in Paradise ?
Petrocelli @ 103
no biggie, pet. nice to have ya back – sorry your too tired. i am by habit an observer.
Jane (nyc) @ 104
More like they’ve all been making a killing in oil futures … how are ya jane(nyc) ?
Christine Edmonson @ 105
the designers lining up to beg her to wear their gowns
eCAHNomics @ 94
I would, but not for a little while yet – I’m having a really busy time at work right now.
Thanks so much for asking.
Suzanne @ 110
The runway shows in Paris … the WWD pics…
Suzanne @ 108
… and a mighty fine one at that.
I am tired but relieved … which is better than the opposite …
Petrocelli @ 109
I’m OK except for being in my natal town (10,000) — long way from Manhattan. Gets me in touch with real ‘merrkins though.
How are you up north?
hi petro. how are you? how’s the family?
G’night, pups. Keep the home fires burnin’.
Ack!
Shocked Leno staffers fired as strike drags on
Reuters – 52 minutes ago
By Paul Bond LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – A couple of days after the Writers Guild of America strike began November 5, the star of “The Tonight Show With Jay Leno” told some 80 of his idled staffers that they need not worry about their finances.
g’nite PS, right behind ya…
sleep well sunshine
Christine Edmonson @ 112
You’ve got Ms. Nathan’s #! Am not sure she can afford for Rudy to be prez. Her allowance would be cut back. She loves the social connections but is all about the Benjamins and the accessories.
Pipe dreams of White House State dinners…
the designers lining up to beg her to wear their gowns
The runway shows in Paris … the WWD pics…
front row seats during fashion week and her own press corps to capture every moment for her
sleep well doodle
Prairie Sunshine @ 106
Maybe someone already found it by now, but here’s a youTube of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LMfkCfG_r8
Great song!
and restful sleep to you, Betsy
Suzanne @ 121
Yep. It’d be bad.
Jane (nyc) @ 114
It’s starting to look a lot like Christmas … *g* … not quite, getting cold though, with a skif of the white stuff …
I’ll trade ya some sunshine for some Maple Syrup … *g*
TexBetsy @ 115
Hiya Betsy, I’ll catch ya on Messenger …
There’s a phrase in the south “ridden hard and put away wet”. Ms. Nathan will need some work before her WH days…and closer photographic scrutiny.
Or, as I tell people down here, if she gets there, paint the damn place black ‘cuz we’re done.
just found my Mondale/Ferraro button.
so.
(h/t to el negro gato)
what year do we think they ran?
Suzanne @ 121
PRICELESS
Jane is bidding us adieu???
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..e/#respond
wigwam @ 90
Not necessarily. Rick Wagoner is being kept at the helm of GM for his long term plan, even though GM’s dividend has been dropping for years, especially this year.
Too bad his “vision” isn’t visionary, like Toyota’s or Honda’s.
Just got done working, so I thought I’d stop in. I don’t have time to read the entire post, or I’ll be up till 6:00 AM, but I did skim it. That’s when I knew I had to comment, since it seems to be in large part about one of my first cousins. Guy was my father’s oldest sister’s oldest son. Uncle Bob, Guy’s father, was also in politics, so that means 3 generations.
I was 11 when my father died, and the family pretty much lost track after that. I only saw my grandfather and one of my uncle’s (my dad’s brother)once since then, and no other members of that side of the family. We heard when Guy got married and when they had Susan, but the extent of family contact with that side of the family has only been reading about them in the news, so I doubt that Susan even knows I exist. The funny thing is, we were looking thru some old pictures Thanksgiving and there were several with two young boys that I think were Guy and his brother Bobby. I’ll have to read the post in the morning when I have more time to comprehend. Sure is odd that the world is getting so much smaller every day!
CTuttle @ 99
Once again, we need inside insight (aka “situational awareness”). Who were the dem leaders pushing this? Hillary? Reid? Obama? Lieberman? We are into primary season, the time when the rank-and-file have their greatest leverage.
Hi Julie, a revered commenter here and at tnh, Mary, had an excellent take on the synergies you lay out. Once you have unified intelligence networks, the Mob becomes the government’s death squad. A wise guy might not relish taking out a journalist a blogger, or a whistleblower, but if it keeps him out of jail, he’s going to do it, just the same.
Giuliani has been a known liar, crook, phony, fraud, and otherwise bad guy since his years as US Attorney. A headline hunter and glory grabber, he has a clear record of bogus indictments, slander, and libellous accusations aimed had promoting Rudy and destroying people’s lives as collateral damage. Even the Schumer/Feinstein betrayal of the Constitution in the Mukasey confirmation, still unexplained, can be traced to Rudy, New York politics, and the interlocking relationships involving Schumer, Rudy, Mukasey, et al. What bothers me is that there are a voteload of boondocks morons who accept Rudy as America’s mayor and can’t be pursuaded by facts or even the rumor of contrary facts. Rudy’s worse than Bush, a two bit prosecutor with no qualifications for any office involving real intelligence, humanity, empathy, or common decency. It aint a joke. Sociopath is merely a definition of the man.
What you have not heard and you’re about to learn is, Larry Ray is an innocent man. He was set up with the stock fraud incident to quiet him. To learn more go to http://www.truthwins.info
The true characters of the aformentioned individuals will be coming out soon…..watch for the articles written in the Washington Post in next week or so….Larry Ray is a hero…. he has been a victim and suffering for exposing information to save this country from more internal disaster.
Gary Hart, April 29,2007
Your letter is a responsible and refreshing stride toward the truth. There are “many truths” along the path in a journey of this nature. Where one stops as the destination is a matter of intention. To those who are unaware and believe what they are told, often have no means of knowing whether it is the whole picture or the real truth.
The fact is that Rudy Giuliani is a criminal and a member of a criminal enterprise. Others involved in the enterprise are President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Bernard Kerik and too many to mention in this letter. They did not want to stop 9/11 they intended to let it happen, then profit from it. Giuliani is one of those who made enormous profits in the first Twenty Four Hrs. Those involved already effectively owned the stock of select companies, which would be selling technology and related products/services post attack. Members in “The Criminal Enterprise” had been paid well before 9/11. Americans were sold out in a sinister plot, which transacted its early deals in the Middle East by Dick Cheney and others, years before the Clintons stepped foot in the White House. Bernard Kerik and I met in what seemed unintended in 1995 in a Luncheonette in N.J. It was not an accident on the part of Kerik and others. By 1998 Kerik asked me to be his best man. An important step in their plan in 1998, which has now failed. Their advance planning techniques are effective to most. “Plausible deniability” being the single most frequent trait in a simple pattern. A common calling card when any bright prosecutor is an active criminal disguised as a prosecutor. When they could not buy me or my services they decided to ruin my credibility, starting by framing me in a Federal indictment in March 2000, based on a report by Bernard Kerik’s best friend special agent Gary Uher who I briefed on their criminal activity in 1998.
For many years I have been working to expose the truth, in an effective yet responsible manner about Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, kerik and a criminal enterprise. Objectives being to prevent as much of the harm and damage to our country as possible and to see these reprobates brought to Justice. The record of my work in this regard is clear. I am the one who exposed Giuliani and Kerik In November 2004 to the N.Y. Daily News reporter Russ Buetner. No one else did. They subsequently attacked my two minor daughters, Talia and Ava in a gruesome manner. They got my ex-wife to go along because she coincidently had her own tragic-secret to hide so it served her purpose.
Included in the more than 2,600 audio recordings I made of conversations with others, I have recorded Government officials saying they were told “it is the republican party Line to destroy Larry Ray”, before I exposed Giuliani and Kerik in November 2004. Why would they want to do that? I agreed to work with the New York City Department of Investigation on the Kerik/Giuliani investigation Dec 20, 2004. Walter Arsenault had contacted me after I put out the news in Nov/Dec 2004. It seems D.O.I.was actually a “Trojan Horse” intending to do damage control, find out what evidence I had, secure it, bury the investigation, bury me and I can prove exactly that. Where were they before I gave it to the Daily News? These criminals fleeced New York on the watch of The First Deputy Commissioner of New York City’s Dept. of Investigation Walter Arsenault. During the 2 yr investigation Walter Arsenault was in regular communication with the Bush White House. I have recordings of my conversations with Walter Arsenault.
Being that Kerik had to step down after being nominated by President Bush to head America’s office of Homeland Security, why hadn’t the F.B.I. launched a thorough investigation? After all, it involved National Security, it involved the President of the United States, it crossed state lines and it happened in the White House. I believe the jurisdiction belonged to the F.B.I. Seems Federal to me. Why wasn’t the president outraged and responsible enough to order the F.B.I. to investigate? What was the Attorney General of the United States thinking ? Is Alberto Gonzales even allowed to think ? How come Gonzales did not take action? What about Vice President Cheney’s take charge personality? Cheney may have been to busy, maybe aboard the Sequoia with Greenspan as his guest.
Now that America knows the Bush/Cheney White House knew about Kerik before President Bush nominated him, it is also abundantly clear they did do something. President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Alberto Gonzales and others agreed to lie to America by telling the world at large Bernard Kerik stepped down because he forgot to pay her taxes, a bald faced lie. With what I came to know about Bernard Kerik his
The F.B.I. is the best Investigative Law Enforcement Agency in the entire world in my opinion. I have worked with the F.B.I. on and off for twelve years and have experience with different agencies in various parts of the world for twenty-six years. The men and women I have worked with at the F.B.I. are honorable, bright, dedicated and well trained. They were told to stand down regarding Giuliani/Kerik. Not what these professional men and women wanted to do. Instead an agency in N.Y.C. did the investigation.
Had the D.O.I. done their job in the nineties, Giuliani and Kerik would have never been thru the gates at the White House, they would have been behind the gates of a prison. If others and I were aware, so was Walter Arsenault.
We had been working in the Eastern European Region and in 1994 it became clear to me that there existed a very dedicated effort to execute a large scale terrorist attack on the United States. None of us knew at the time in 1994 the attack would come to be known as 9/11. My effort since to expose the truth has been unnaturally difficult, unnaturally long and unnaturally costly. The American Terrorists; the very corrupt Bush/Cheney White House, and many corrupt politicians and officials such as Gonzales, Chertoff, Giuliani/Kerik , and Wolfowitz to only name a few. The ENEMY WITHIN.
My two little girls and I have paid an unimaginable price and still are. Hurting my children is more painful than every other tactic they used to discourage and /or stop me in their effort to make sure I did not expose what I discovered in my work in Eastern Europe during the Bush Sr. Presidency regarding activities of Dick Cheney and others.
N.A.T.O. I had been brought in to the Kosovo Crisis in an effort to avoid the senseless casualties to come in a ground offensive. I feel the Pentagon very accurately estimated anticipated casualties if a ground assault commenced. After I listened to the intelligence briefing the first night I was in Belgium at N.A.T.O. Headquarters, based on my analysis I presented a recommendation, which I believed to be the only available option. All in the room with the exception of Colonel Sponbeck agreed with me and asked how do we implement. I designed and submitted my tactical plan as I saw it. The necessary steps were completed over the next two days and I was then authorized. My first stop in the operation was Moscow. I accomplished both objectives, the cessation of the bombing campaign and mitigate the need for a ground offensive, thus avoiding the senseless loss of ground troops.
I had also been tasked after flight 800 went down while Departing N.Y., to locate and retrieve any of the surplus Stinger Missiles we supplied when we appropriately backed the Mujahidin during the Afghan Conflict. I was tasked originally by the F.B.I. I located and arranged to take that load of stingers out of circulation. There were logistical problems for the Bureau and time not being friendly I completed that task with the C.I.A. I am told it was the largest load recovered at the time, which concerned me since I was tasked due to an emergent need, before that I had never paid attention to that recovery program and I would have thought we as a Nation would have been more successful in that regard.
Mr. Hart I presume you have more than enough experience to know that any individual who is capable of successfully attaining objectives as the ones I state in this letter must be regarded in a particular manner to be tasked to begin with. I am and always have been proud of the fact I am an American.
The current exposure of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and others yet to be named, for lying to the American people about the link between Sadam Hussein and Al queda is directly due to my effort. It is well documented. The Washington Post Easter Sunday Cover Article, about the Bush White House and U.S. Attorney Gonzales knowing in advance about Bernard kerik Rudy Giuliani happened because I gave it to the Washington Post. Take a look at what was going on before and after that article.
President Bush, Vice President Cheney and others are responsible for the murders of United States Marines and other U.S. Military Personnel. How did it get this far?
The thread of conspiracy runs from President Bush, V.P. Cheney, Mike Chertoff, Bernard kerik all the way down trhu Judge Thomas Dilts, Judge Julie Marino, Judge Anne Bartlett, the D.Y.F.S office in Somerset County Court, Union County Prosecutors Office, Livingston twp and others in New Jersey who continue to harm my two children in the effort to harm me so I will not or can not expose the truth and/or testify. I will not rest until all responsible are exposed and charged for their crimes. Then it will be the responsibility of the Justice system in America to administer the law in a balanced and honest manner, nothing less, nothing more. It is of paramount importance to all of us the system do as it is intended in order for our country to begin healing. No witch hunts and burnings, yet no special favors either. All Americans and the entire world are already watching.
Senator Hart, I was aware pre 9/11 of the reports you reference, including briefings with N.Y. Port Authority. Giuliani did do things, one was to build the Ultra Expensive Emergency Command Office in the World Trade Center, just one more for people to ask ” how could Rudy have made a mistake like that “? It is simple he didn’t make a mistake, it is the same pattern of his advance planning, he intended it to be one of several seeds of doubt to the public, worst yet maybe a jury. The same as asking, how could a man as smart as Rudy make someone who, is as ignorant, has a record of ties to organized crime and as uneducated as Bernard Kerik not only commissioner of corrections but then make him the New York City Police Commissioner? To ask it is to answer it.
It is interesting after I fought alone for so long and have endured so much stating all along that Bush/Cheney wants America to go to war with Iraq for a sinister criminal agenda and finally get it out in the media, now George Tenet comes out stating the same thing. Curious.
I hope some committee is already prepared to plug the wholes in our National Security due to many people who hold positions across the country in Homeland Security jobs as installs by Giuliani, Cheney, Kerik, or Chertoff.
I am confident Mr. Giuliani and others will soon be charged, arrested and in jail awaiting trial for more than just witness tampering. I know, since I am one of the witness’s Giuliani has tampered with.
Many of them are guilty of Treason.
I have recently contacted the office of Hillary Clinton since she wants to question Rudy Giuliani in an open forum regarding the removal of the World Trade Center debris. I have not heard back from her.
I have supportive evidence and can prove any of the above. I am willing to speak with you further if you like. You can contact me by email nisacray@gmail.com or can always ask Chuck Pitman, or Jim Jones, two very honorable friends.
Warm Regards,
Lawrence Ray
I’m afraid hero isn’t the word I would have come up with for Larry Ray