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Question: How long after the breaking of the story of the bomb threat at Hillary Clinton’s campaign office before a Freeper wonders if it was staged by her own campaign?
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Jane!
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I’m getting those aural messages from you this afternoon, Jane.
The hate site link no worky Jane.
EPU’d. Cui Bono? And singles.
Worst person…in the world!
Speaking of Perino… on Leahy
“If he is now saying that the president wasn’t aware of it, as we have said from the beginning, then I don’t understand why he continues to have this rope-a-dope that’s not going to go anywhere,” Perino told reporters.
She doesn’t understand that Pat is after Rover?
If they find a connection, then what’s the
possibility of a criminal conspiracy indictment
against the White House?
OT, from thinkprogress
Don’t you think it should be required from now on for one non-planted reporter to ask the W Admin official at every news conference to identify which Qs are planted and which are not?
eCAHNomics @ 9
At Bush’s eve-of-war press conference I found it a tip-off when he called on them before they raised their hands.
Bay State Librul @ 8
Rope-a-dope sounds like a good description of what Leahy is trying to do to George Bush, just not in the sense that Perino intended it.
Right wingers are simply nuts.
eCAHNomics @ 9
Leaks and plants and rope-a-dopes?
Bay State Librul @ 8
Dana Peroxide is beyond lame. She had to have been hired for her looks.
Best comment from the Freepers.
I have nothing to add to that.
Freeper wingnuts will definitely find some use for this incident. You can bet your
wifelife on it.Bay State Librul @ 13
Wasn’t that a song in the Wizard of Oz?
Notice that only offices of the other Democratic candidates were evacuated by police. Why not the GOP Offices also?
Jeez, I leave for a couple of hours and come back to this. Awful. I pray everyone gets out of this.
Michelle Malkin – what is wrong with her????
They were groomed in their hatred by Karl Rove who actually DID bug his own offices to play a dirty trick on an opponent, so of course they project onto us the way they think.
I’m painting with a broad brush, I know. I hope it ends safely.
RonD @ 15
Projection, anyone?
RonD @ 15
multiply x 800
ssshhhhh, don’t anyone tell FEMA about this…..
You mean you don’t know? You’re kidding, right?
Hugh:
She’s got “rope-a-dope” backwards, anyway. Leahy’s the “dope” here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T…..the_Jungle
BobbyG @ 14
Wasn’t she chosen because she was one of the few people that could make Tony Snow look deep?
LS @ 19
I could answer that – how long have you got?
Pectopah @ 18
The GOP candidates are too busy self-destructing. It would be redundant.
LS @ 19
Everything under the sun.
Biodun @ 24
You’re kidding, right??!! Not, what is wrong with “her”….what is “wrong” with her.
Pectopah @ 18
Because is always Democrats that get the terror treatment (assinations, etc.) Although if Ron Paul starts to be a real threat he’ll get the George Wallace treatment.
RonD @ 15
They are freaking out – if this guy is a right winger who visits Malkin’s site on a regular basis – they are screwed!
Fox, interviewing local young man says the name of the HT is Roy Stanley. Has heard stories from friends. HT compains of govt planting things in his head.
Hugh @ 28
lol, good one.
Pectopah @ 18
Great question for reporters. To me it seemed obvious the guy is Republican, but why the police were so sure has to be hammered out.
After, of course, they examine why Hillary Clinton is so calculatedly exploiting the episode.
rope-a-dope (slap Perino)
I hope the White House does send out layoff notices in December. And then I want to know the salary of a person who gets one compared to Halliburton profits in one month.
CNN reporting all hostages freed – perpretrator still inside.
and the media using false claims to judge Senator Clinton’s “handling” of this crisis.
Another msgop pet gooper fatuous failed fbi agent van zandt opined Carter could have made things bad for hostage negotiators –although he went on to say ..nothing happened. Never miss an opportunity to make a false claim about a Democrat.
Hmmmm…I wonder if this terrorist was radicalized on the internet…or by listening to right-wing hate radio.
If this guy wanted publicity, why do this on a friday? Wouldn’t monday carry the story through the week?
Maybe Dana, unwittingly got Leahy’s strategy right….
“Muhammed Ali was facing one of his toughest opponents ever. Grizzled and worn from years of boxing, Ali wondered if his best fight would be good enough to keep his championship belt. This opponent had taken him to the limit before, and Ali decided that something special was needed to give him an edge, something that his opponent would not be prepared for and would likely be unable to counter effectively. Ali decided to employ a strategy he called Rope-a-Dope: just wait at the ringside and position himself defensively, wait for his opponent to tire himself out with ineffective blows, and then finish him off.
This strategy of using an opponent’s own aggresiveness against him was somewhat effective, though certainly anything from being a crowd-pleaser. Amid boos and jeers, Ali managed to avoid enough serious blows to win the bout and maintain his heavyweight title. Not exactly the prettiest bout in world history, certainly nothing for ringside scholars to provide to their students in the way of form, the tactic nonetheless did the job. Although some would question the sportsmanship of such a strategy, there was nothing in the rules against it, and the title stayed with Ali.”
Has Hillary said anything so far in response to this?
Well, I guess this just proves Glen Beck’s point that a woman cannot be President.
‘Course if The Hill were to buckle on some body-armor, snake crawl her way to the storefront and ventilate this this obvious IslamFascist Tehhahist that would go a long way to securing the fat, dumb, white Southron male vote.
Would it not?
I understand Penn is running a poll on what she should do right now.
Stay tuned and the more sane members of FDL will get to the bottom of this.
Me?
I need to work on a new tin-foil hat. Thicker foil is now required.
Fox: Breaking News in the Natalie Holloway case.
LS @ 39
Maybe he went to the “madras” with Obama…
Just kidding.
I’d be really curious how she does react, if she hasn’t yet. She’s probably in a huddle with her campaign, calculating, with imput from the Big Dawg. And this Sunday the talk show might run with it. Keith will lead–and run–with it tonight.
eCAHNomics @ 44
What’s happening? They found her body?
A.Citizen @ 43
Get some from her.
One indication that the perp might be a R is that he was not smart enough to figure out what Hillary’s schedule is & plan his activity for a day when she was in town.
Bay State Librul @ 41
Ali was actually the challenger in that fight and George Foreman was the reigning World Heavyweight Champion.
Hugh @ 26
dana-bot will report to oval office.
dana-bot will memorize quotes.
dana-bot will recognize supreme authority.
dana-bot will brush hair.
dana-bot will brush teeth.
dana-bot will pronounce ’sunni’ and ’shite’
This is so sad. The guy thinks he has things planted in his head? Now he’s in there alone, with a bomb?
Could we take a minute to think about this tortured soul? He let his hostages go unharmed, he still has some shred of humanity left, could we worry about him for just a minute?
ReneND @ 40
If he’s a nutcase, reason’s fled him.
Mike Malloy calls the WH spokesmodel “Too much cappacino Perino” which is quite appropriate. When she’s nervous she talks way too fast.
hayduke @ 31
a lone nut never falls far from the tree!!!
Biodun @ 47
Just put that in to show Fox’s priorities. Greta van Sustrand reporting that the Cappo brothers are being released.
What looseheadprop says!
I really, really think given what we know, it’s going to turn out to be a fake bomb. He’s unlikely to get shot, in that case.
Biodun @ 46
Oh please! Give her a break. You know she will be judged harshly by the press no matter what she does.
looseheadprop @ 52
Amen. Thank you.
looseheadprop @ 52
You are so right.
I heard hostage taker was looking for Cybill Shepherd; liked the “Organazised” poster.
Mabel’s Wig Shack:
There you go again. OK, I give up…*g*
looseheadprop @ 52
thank you.
looseheadprop @ 52
I wish they had something they could quietly inject into the place to knock him out and then just take him into custody peacefully.
This just goes to show that if Clinton is elected the Republics. will not stand for it. If she wins and doesn’t reverse some of Bush more insane decrees, presidential directive 51, homeland security, etc. they will revolt violently against her personally. All the things Bush got away with will suddenly been seen in a different light by these people (they’ll finally see them for what they are, executive overreach).
This county is about to boil over with racism, misogamy, and homophobia and xenophobia once again. A significant faction of these so called Repbulicans have been brought to the boiling point by mega churches and 20 year of Reich wing AM radio. These people have got the religious zeal and they are all fuckin nuts and there is no way they are going to have a woman as their commander gal in chief. I am absolutely no fan of Hillary’s but the rage directed toward her from the right is insane. It’ll boil over again this is just the first taste of it.
psychiatric medication can affect a lot of people adversely.
actually it can make a lot of people ‘nuts.’
Fox: Roy Stanley’s son, Roy Stanley Jr., told law enforcement that the “explosives” his father has are road flares.
LS @ 61
It’s amazing that things like this don’t happen more often given the number of homeless people who need treatment for mental illness. I hope that he will get the help he needs. We might find ourselves in this condition some day.
this is funny but I apologize in advance
The mad bomber in NH has a “history of mental illness.” (His car has bumper stickers for Bush 2000 and 2004.)
Posted by: nash | November 30, 2007 3:58 PM
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 66
so can a bunch of non-psychiatric medications.
RagingGurrl @ 59
Indeed.
Want a good laugh? Watch the Live Stream on Fox. When they’re not on the air, the “reporter” keeps sniffling and wiping his nose on his hand.
Ewwww!
selise @ 70
yes.
RagingGurrl @ 59:
You’re right. My bad. I needed to be told that… Some of us are not as good at snark as we’de like to be…
Twain @ 68
please. the vast majority of people with mental illness are no danger to anyone (except perhaps themselves)
can we pleeeze get a photo of the ‘nut’ with his car?
sorry to be cruel!
looseheadprop @ 52
Sounds like a schizophrenic. They sometimes go off their meds because they think they are all right or don’t need them and then things start to fall apart. I agree I hope he gets out of this OK and gets the treatment and monitoring he needs.
BobbyG @ 14
I’d be satisfied with bush/cheney being found guilty as unindicted co-conspirators while Rove was frog marched off to jail.
Ugly In Pink @ 58
Unless it was here in Vegas. Our cops shoot everyone they want to, and are always then vindicated at the inquests. Battin’ 1,000 in the 15-plus years I’ve lived here. What’s that? A comb in your hand? BOOM!
Swat team now stringing blue cord across the scene. WTF is that?
Biodun @ 74
No problem. Practice makes perfect, though!
selise @ 75
I meant doing weird things that frighten people. I try to be politically correct but sometimes you have to say what you mean.
MSNBC – He’s demanding to talk to HRC.
Ugly In Pink @ 80
http://www.bluecord.org/biblewiki/
in times like these…..
looseheadprop @ 52
Looseheadprop,
I was going to say something about people (and their loved ones) who suffer due to mental illness. I know very much about it as a loved one. It turns lives upside down.
OT — Not sure this has been mentioned, but I just got an email from MoveOn:
Big news! Last night, Facebook changed their policy and announced that no private purchases made on other websites would be displayed publicly on Facebook “without users proactively consenting.”
LS @ 83
Oh, oh. This doesn’t bode well…
MSNBC – Suspect’s son says he’s been drinking too….eee gads…
msmolly @ 87
I deactivated my Facebook when I read about what they had been doing. Doubt that I’ll re-activate.
BobbyG @ 90
by the way I was wondering about those encyclopedias you bought online. are they worth it?
and the corduroy pants on sale?
Son says he has road flares attached to his chest.
I’m sure that Sherri Annis’s lesser half will be right on the
case in tomorrow’s Media Notes.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 77
Googled it, but it doesn’t appear to be on the toobz yet.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91
Tech note:
Admittedly, the last seven years have made me a ‘worst-case- believer, but I hope the other dem candidate campaign offices have their computers and laptops secured before being evacuated. Otherwise some ‘thief’ with an R after his name is having a grand time getting ahold of campaign info.
Just wondering. But I hope that what we heard that all hostages were released safe is true. And the man is not hurt either. He needs help.
GrandmaJ @ 96
Hmmm. Maybe that’s what Roy Stanley’s doing. Copying all the data onto a thumb drive.
the ballad of roy stanley
allan_in_upstate @ 92
Wouldn’t be until Monday at the earliest. Media Notes not published over the weekend. But there’s always his CNN show on Sunday.
I have been mostly lurking here, posting once and awhile. I don’t post more often because this site, so far as the responses are concerned, appears to be a stage for trying to be first in line.
I find this behavior puerile and demeaning. I have to scroll through several attempts at being first to get to the meat of the responses, and by the time I do, I mostly leave.
I can see why people call themselves firepups, as this does not constitute adult behavior in my estimation.
The work that Christy, Jane and others do is immensely admirable. I check it first, but avoid for the most part, the responses.
Perhaps that is best.
selise @ 64
My response to this is to look at pectopah’s question @18. The assumption of everyone at the scene was that this was a political threat against a Democrat, possibly more than one Democrat. It may be the case they evacuated Republican operations, too, but I haven’t heard so yet.
It’s not just a random, sick soul. This “nut” was receiving signals, in a manner of speaking: he was obsessed with Clinton. Did that come out of a void? Mentally ill people aren’t more violent than other people, generally. But mentally ill people regularly exposed to “mainstream” Republican paranoia? It bespeaks my prejudice that I bet they are.
As for worrying about the “bomb” — one look at the pictures of Rochester, NH will tell you no chowderhead there is making them.
why in the world would somebody wish this was ‘real.’
what’s in it for her?
a couple people with opposing views get taken out?
good lord.
BobbyG @ 65
Don’t know if this has been brought up, but there are studies showing a relationship between rapture-nuts (very rigid religious fols) and tendencies towards mental instability. All this is to say is that the choice of Hillary as a subject of this attack (as opposed to Rudy or Romney say) seems linked to the vilification of her by the ueber right wing.
Starbuck @ 99
Leisure Guy!!!
The man, according to reports of MSNBC talking with the son-in-law, said that he wanted to be hospitalized.
hehehe…lurker/commenter.
Starbuck @ 100
Your loss, banal scold.
Calls in Sudan for Execution of British Teacher
The call for her execution may have come from Mitt Romney.
But I have neither the time nor experience to evaluate
the validity of that claim. Besides, I smell weenies roasting.
And yes, it’s best…
Boston1775 @ 105
knows he needs help.
didn’t really want to hurt anybody.
a terrible cry for help.
trusts authority.
eCAHNomics @ 56
The punchbowl is empty, the chairs are gone, and the music has stopped. Do you know where your money went?
(Well if Shlox Ooze can break with a Natalie update, how’s about a tidbit from the cascading credit crisis…)
Montana fund sees $247 mln of withdrawals
Florida’s investment woes spark subprime fears in other states
What?! The money is gone?
No reason to panic or anything…
Isn’t it reassuring to know that people named Paulson have everything under control…
Not the “R” word again… (I meant Republican.)
Richmond @102:
You may be confusing cause and effect. My father’s half siblings both went mad and despite no particularly strong religious upbringings their breakdowns were characterized by religious ecstasies.
Starbuck @ 100
When I see friends or family I haven’t seen in a long time, I spend a bit of time asking how they are, seeing what is happening. Like family, we also sometimes rush to see who can get to the “good” seat first. This is no different. Consider us part of a larger family, and we have various “fun” rituals, that if you don’t like, then just go beyond them. By the time there are a few comments anyway you will have to scroll to see what we are saying. And, dare I say without being unwelcoming- lighten up! Many of us have in our real lives pretty serious professions. This is a fun break – as serious as the issues are!
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 91
and the strap on?
Richmond @ 112
So nicely put, Richmond.
Lighten up Starbuck. It’s Friday afternoon. If the MSM has it right — for the first time in seven years — and the guy’s to be pitied, then fine, we’ll all apologize and feel guilty. If.
Starbuck @ 99:
And the point is…? That we should stop our puerile commenting? Fat chance!
Just for that,
FITZ!!
KinMO @ 114
Shit. You found out about that too?
;)
Evil Kneival dead.
brendan @ 112
I wasn’t saying it was one not the other but rather referencing recent studies of this phenomena. There may be some after the fact labeling of mental illness sufferers, but some of this is also self-labeling, and related action. Perhaps there is discomfort with choices by those whose reality is uncomfortable.
Starbuck
Welcome to the world of online communities
Regular comment threads tend to have the ‘first’ feature.
I suggest a mouse with a scroll wheel.
BobbyG @ 107
Oh come on, BobbyG. This site, or any other, is not for everyone and Starbuck has as much right to call it his way as anyone else. Don’t be defensive.
rwcole @ 120
RIP has real meaning for him, all those broken bones and the misery he must have suffered through all these years.
BobbyG @ 119
kinMO found out about that!!!
I only heard about the cords and books!!!
Starbuck @ 99:
You should really try Eschaton’s comments.
Bustednuckles @ 124
His aunt, long since deceased, used to own one of the oldest stone houses in New Paltz, NY.
A sad, sad situation for a troubled soul?
Add my concern to lhp’s expression and others.
These days, it’s not just hate radio and RW internets building the fear/paranoia.
ABC Nightly did a teaser last night during our early local news for a report on the story of controlling salt. Dark, heavy emphasis on the word “government.” Shame on them.
And it’s time we grab the frame. We’re not talking about “the gummit” anymore…it’s “the Bush Administration.”
Starbuck @ 100
I have been mostly lurking here, posting once and awhile. I don’t post more often because this site, so far as the responses are concerned, appears to be a stage for trying to be first in line.
I find this behavior puerile and demeaning. I have to scroll through several attempts at being first to get to the meat of the responses, and by the time I do, I mostly leave.
I can see why people call themselves firepups, as this does not constitute adult behavior in my estimation.
The work that Christy, Jane and others do is immensely admirable. I check it first, but avoid for the most part, the responses.
Perhaps that is best.
what changed today?
what made you want to comment today?
just wondering.
Starbuck @ 99 -
thank you so much for taking on this serious issue. i don’t know why it doesn’t get more attention – especially given the serious nature of the damage that it does. right up there with global warming, health care and a looming economic crisis.
/snark
Starbuck @ 100
Good morning captain good morning son
Do you need another mule skinner
Out on your new road line
Well I like to work I’m rolling all the time
Lord I like to work boy I’m rolling all the time
I can pop my initials Right on a mule’s behind
Well it’s hey little water boy bring your water ’round
Lord it’s hey little water boy bring your water ’round
And if you don’t like your job just set that water bucket down
I work out on the new road from a dollar and a dime a day
Lord I work out on the new road I make a dollar and a dime a day
I’ve got three women on Saturday night Waiting to draw my pay
Well I’m going to town honey what can I bring you back
Well I’m going to town baby what can I bring you back
Just bring a pint of good rye And a John B.Stetson hat
Lord it’s raining here and it’s storming on the deep blue sea
Lord it’s raining here and it’s storming on the deep blue sea
Can’t no blonde headed woman make a monkey out for me
If your house catches fire and there ain’t no water ’round
If your house catches fire and there ain’t no water ’round
Just throw your good gal out the window let your house just burn on down
Well I’m leaving here and I ain’t gonna take no clothes
I’m leaving here and I ain’t gonna take no clothes
There may be good times in this old town but it’s better on down the road
Bustednuckles @ 118
LOL. Can we close out the threads with “Fitz”, too?
neokneme @ 111
Boy, is that article interesting! The subprime thing is so Enron-esqe. Fake “wealth” being discovered everywhere.
We’re all holding this bad holder-in-due-course paper, our cluelessness notwithstanding.
cahuenga @ 125
lol.
raven
707
For those of you who have been spared: Treatment for those with mental illness is often impossible to find. There is meager insurance coverage (considering that it is often a chronic disease), lack of facilities and often even less of everything for children.
Yo raven!
Right-ee-oo BobbyG!
jayt @ 104
707!
I hope Leisure Guy comes back to scold us someday, too.
1,674 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND..
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Unfortunately, from now on our politics are gunna be defined by fabricated or stage managed “crises”…indeed, post-modern politics, economics and art are gunna have a smooth continuity to them: from one “disaster” to another. This will be true until we re-educate ourselves on politics and economics startin’ with our enlightenment Founding Fathers and then a crash course in Das Capital and The German Manuscripts.
Until we synthesize democracy and our economics we will be headed with increasing speed toward the Dark Ages.
I am not a Mrs. Clinton fan, but so far as I have seen or heard, she has handled this situation with intelligence and and understanding…I hope she doesn’t get done in by a couple of her staff “acolytes” or true believers and I hope we don’t find out that this whole thing was managed by Rupert Murdoch
KEEP THE FAITH AND YOUR EYES ON THE IOWA CAUCUSES!!
CNN: Still one hostage inside.
eCAHNomics @ 68
Just like in the movie “Tommy Boy”. I feel for the man and his tortured soul.
“Unfortunately, from now on our politics are gunna be defined by fabricated or stage managed “crises”…i”
What Norske said. And yo Raven.
neokneme @ 137
I used to work in revolving subprime risk management. It was all about churn ‘n burn. Book ‘em and sell ‘em, Get your fees and run. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat…
Let some other chumps be left holding the empty bag several years down the line.
retirin’ in five @ 142
yo ya’ll dawgs
raven rocks
CNN expert being interviewed: There’s an FBI office in Rochester, NH.
WTF? Why in the world would the FBI have an office in such a small town?
Richmond @ 103
“rigid religious” isn’t quite the right description, believing in “the rapture” isn’t “rigid” it’s a bizarre interpretation of the changing of the era
they have interperated the change from the era of pisces to the era of the water bearer as some kind of ascending to the heavens
BobbyG @ 14
Now, now, that’s very unfair and sexist.
It’s obvious to me from her Junior League bob and attitude that she was hired for her pedigree.
rwcole @ 120
For real? Link? I loved Kneival when I was a kid. I had his action stunt set that I used to jump off the family room stairs.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..ml?cnn=yes
Evil Link
BobbyG — That’s what I heard too.
(Deja vu?)
Anyway, that’s the problem in a nutshell.
mc says
November 30th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
707!
I hope Leisure Guy comes back to scold us someday, too.
Phew! – I’m glad somebody knew what I was talking about…..
She’s a lying sack of cute. Who wouldn’t believe that impossible innocence? She’s the least of them all, so far.
eCAHNomics @ 145
There was an “FBI office” in my small hometown in KY (pop at the time approx 5.2K) A one person office but FBI office nevertheless. Rochester may have a two person office at 30K pop.
William James documented the thin line between religious experience and mental illness a long time ago.
jayt @ 152
I was scolded by Leisure Guy and all I got was this lousy tee shirt.
IrishJim @ 149
Dunno about Evil Kneival, but Evel Knievel is indeed gone.
;)
twolf1 @ 156
I like the tee shirt…what, it’t not union?
dakine01 @ 154
Part of the govt been spying on us for a lot longer than W’s time. Can’t imagine why all those tiny offices would be necessary.
perris @ 147
I probably could NOT have stated it more poorly if I tried. But that is Friday afternoon for you. Others have written about it and have articulated this better!
This is still a hostage situation according to the NH police.
Oh, Goddess…I just saw swat guys with black masks and big guns getting ready to do something….
They just asked the spokesman if there are hostages, and he won’t answer it.
MSNBC
According to hearsay comments reported on CNN by a “Chelsea Cool,” the perpetrator is not mentally healthy.
Whether or not that is truly the case, speculation remains premature. Anything we speculate simply reflects on us. The best thing to do is to hope for the best for all concerned.
“Are there still hostages in the building?”
“Uhhh, we don’t know.”
WMUR totally useless news conference
If you refuse to answer all questions, what the hell’s the point of having a press conference? He’s literally not answering any of them. Jesus.
Seems there are still hostages or hostage…
eCAHNomics @ 158
The local agent lived across the street from us and I remember playing with his kids some (they were younger). I also remember my father saying one time that Mr M_____ probably knew more about me than he (my father) did. This was around about the time I was going for an ROTC scholarship.
Ugly In Pink @ 165
Maybe better than not having a presser?
What does it tell you that most people, from what I can tell, took the idea this was really a bomb seriously instead of dismissing it out of hand? You’d think we lived in a country where bombmakers are as common as meth labs, or in Gaza or something.
And the good economic news keeps on rollin’.
Moody’s rediscovers the mystical art of rating of securities….
Well if your idea of fun is watching someone say “We can’t release that at this time” over, and over, and over, and over.
dakine01 @ 167
palm prints.
fingerprints.
footprints.
still photos.
family history.
psychological profiling.
this stuff all comes in handly later on when recruiting people to walk across foggy bridges in vienna during the height of the cold war wearing a long trenchcoat carrying a valise with important and purloined documents.
Suspect had told family member to watch the news today…that is not good.
Different person possible…uh..oh…could be a Leland Eisenberg…
That could change everything, because everything the Stanley family member becomes moot.
“Lee, do you want to do some important work for us?”
“Yes sir, I surely do sir.”
MWS @ 172 & dakine01 @ 167
Exactly.
brendan @ 168
I don’t know where you’re from, but where I grew up, folks have been taking bomb threats seriously all along. I did a lot of standing around out doors when I was in college due to called in bomb threats and such.
cahuenga @ 170
Bullseye cahuenga!
brendan @ 169
One ought never dismiss a threat such as this out of hand. The cost of such recklessness is much higher than the cost of caution.
CNN: Perp is upset about mental health system in U.S. Guess he got himself to the head of the long complaint line today.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 129
Because this subject is so distressing, I decided to post my comment here. I have had it in the back of my mind for some time now.
Much of what gets posted in any contemporary threads today does cause consternation beyond what would happen in a face to face or phone conversation. Perhaps at some future time when we regain some of the lost art of writing, meaning may come through much more succinctly that I perceive it to be these days, not only here but other forums as well.
Thank you all for responding.:-)
brendan @ 169
We get our mail through a P.O. box because of all of the mail boxes being blown to bits and I’m not talking about baseball bats. It’s nuts.
looseheadprop @ 52
Yes. Thanks for the reminder. That level of emotional/psychological distress is truly horrible to endure.
OK, this is a comment to quote next time FDL-ers get branded as haters. ‘cept those doing the branding would say “oh…that’s just someone being sarcastic.”
FunnyD
Mental illness is no laughing matter.
twolf1 @ 156
OK, for us newbies, who is/was Leisure Guy?
neokneme @ 151
In late 2004 my bank got bought by a big Wall Street “bad paper” firm. They insisted on a new “growth” strategy that went something like this (in E-Z round numbers to illustrate):
Solicit and book 100,000 new subprime VISA accounts each with a credit line of $1,000. We knew from my portfolio analysis studies that these folks would run the cards all the way up to the line within 5 months or so. That then represents an aggregate “asset” with a nominal face value of 100 million dollars. Bundle it all up and sell it on the Street as a “securitized debt obligation.” Buyers would bid on the anticipated risk-adjusted future value of the “security.”
Take the money (and pocket all those swell fees) and go out and book 100,000 more, etc etc etc etc. Meanwhile the downstream loss risk has been sold to others (who will then sell it to others etc etc).
Pretty much similar thing happened with subbie mortgages. Lotta cats made out great off all that transactional fee money, but the chumps left holding the bad paper when the music stopped are now SOL.
I quit in early 2005. Couldn’t continue abetting what was an obvious rip-off.
Richmond @ 160
not to worry, it gives me the opportunity to point out one of my running themes;
some “rapturists” are “dispensationalists”
George bush is a dispensationalist
these are people that believe Armageddon is a GOOD thing, they believe it means the “rapture” will follow
from the link;
they want Israel in war, they want Israel to prevail and then they think the Jews will come to know Jesus as their savior and the rapture soon to follow
If you look to the events as they have transpired it would seem that they not only want “Israel to prevail against her enemies” but they want Israel to have as many enemies as possible
or something like that, I am no expert on them that is for sure
Albatross @ 178
The correct way to handle small-probability, high-consequence events.
That’s what upset me so much about the anthrax attacks. The CDC didn’t do squat for days & days, *ssholes. It was serious enough as it was; suppose it was even more widespread? That was the first sign of how incompetent W’s govt is.
Albatross @ 178
The police in Rochester, NH can’t dismiss it out of hand, but I sure can.
Starbuck @ 180
That’s why I’m here. Venting helps!
Starbuck @ 180
From what I can tell (as a relative newcomer to the blogosphere) the folks at FDL are intelligent, interesting, funny, sometimes snarky, mostly very civil. From what I’ve seen at a few other blogs, that is not often the case. We feel like family here, and both the informality and the underlying respect are indicative of the community we’ve formed. Your comments are welcome.
Hey – if the coverage of this ordeal pre-empts Tucker, I’m sending the guy a thank-you note.
Because this subject is so distressing, I decided to post my comment here. I have had it in the back of my mind for some time now.
Much of what gets posted in any contemporary threads today does cause consternation beyond what would happen in a face to face or phone conversation. Perhaps at some future time when we regain some of the lost art of writing, meaning may come through much more succinctly that I perceive it to be these days, not only here but other forums as well.
Thank you all for responding.:-)
Starbuck
well Starbuck.
certainly the immediacy of the medium makes for a quick ‘hit’ ..I love it for that reason precisely….but many of the posts here are lengthy and comprehensively thoughtful.
if you focus on those replies you may find kindred spirits you share ideals with-
but in the meantime just fly past the comments you dont jive with—–
just a thought-
oh and the wig in the corner is 78.35 plus tax.
:-)
Watched To Hell and back on msnbc last night. It was about a pentacostal minister who questioned the bible version of hell. It was quite good. Not what I expected.
I heartily endorse what Starbuck said. It has always been a great mystery to me that such brilliant, incisive writing on the part of contributors here manages to attract the lame dimwitted comments that are such a negative feature of this site.
usa today says all hostages are released
Cafferty reading responses to his Q about Mohammad teddy bear. One said these “yahoos” are the same people who wanted to kill newspaper cartoonists. That, of course, is in contradistinction to U.S. govt that actually does kill reporters.
Starbuck, you’ve wandered into a group of people who’ve been hanging out and talking together for a while. We all know we’re Serious People, and these are Serious Times. If you only drop in on the conversation once in a while, all you hear is our shorthand, our jokes, our jockeying for position. Do you only discuss Serious Subjects with your friends and family? ‘Course not.
But, like any group of good people, we are a welcoming bunch. Hang out with us for a while and you might even want a zed. We love Christy and Jane and each other, too.
Jane has a new thread upstairs!
jane is anew upstairs
good lord, i spent most of the day here online.
after taking the day off work because dang blang it I was just ‘tired.’
but now duty (not ‘active duty’) calls and this baby gets shut down——
take care all and thanks for all the thoughts and inspiration
3,2,1
out
Leiaure Guy was a person who showed up one day, told us we were all idiots for hollering “Fitz”, or Frist, or whatever it was at the time, that we should all be ashamed for being so childish, etc. Never heard from him again.
Then someone named Kitt did the same thing, but I’ve seen him/her here a few times since then with good comments (although always *after* the first 6 or 7 comments, when the noise has settled down).
Dan Brisson @ 193
You don’t have to read the comments. Just stick to the front pagers & that should take care of your problem.
Wig out
msmolly @ 183
Some time ago ( a year or so, I guess) “Leisure Guy” scolded us for the “Fitz” nonsense at the beginning of each thread. I don’t think he ever came back.
A little history: It all started with “Frist” then morphed into “Fitz” and now “Zed” seems to have held on for quite awhile. Personally, I like shouting “Jane!” at the beginning of each thread but now I’l switch to “Starbuck”.
I’m puerile that way.
Dan Brisson @ 193
707!!!
Right. FDL, warts & all, commenters & all, is a self-deprecating Mensa Society relative to all of Wingnuttia.
Take 2 and call me in the morning.
Dan Brisson @ 193
Oh then agony and wasted time of scrolling past 3 or 4 one word comments out of a list of 205. Our time would be better spent complaining about those trivial comments IMO. It’ll be the downfall of the progressive movement i tell ya.
mc @ 203
LOL, mc!
BobbyG @ 184
And now we watch it all unravel…
Starbuck @ 206
Damn, you can take a joke. Now I’m gonna have to go back to “Leisure Guy!”
Happy Friday, Starbuck. It’s beer o’clock here on the East Coast.
Mabel’s Wig Shack @ 110
eCAHNomics @ 146
Rochester is not that small. It is a city by NH standards. It is right off I-95 and about 45 minutes to Boston’s Logan airport, and close to other NH towns like Nashua, Rye, Hampton, Seabrook (think Nuclear Plant). It is a gateway to the state. Despite its small size, NH is hard to get around. Great North/South highways, but virually impossible to go West-East. So it makes sense to have field offices.
neokneme @ 207
What makes the subbie mortgage thing even worse than what we were doing is that, whereas the bid value (and projected longer term value) of the bundled revolving credit accounts we securitized was a function of our astute proprietary risk modeling, subbie mortgage vetting became “you got a pulse? fine, here’s your loan.”
Churn & burn to the max. Everyone just assumed that real estate values could only go up.
mc @ 208
2 1/2 hours to go!!
Got some really good, even organic microbrews here, and a place that makes the best Moscow Mules evah!
arrested
live
http://www.wmur.com/video/14738085/index.html
I am very glad no one was hurt, but is it just me or does this remind anyone of the anthrax attacks right before the passage of the Patriot Act in Oct. 2001?
We have the S 1959 “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007″ waiting in committee and it just passed the House 404 to 6.
And the guy being interviewed said that this guy (he was “told”) was into “conspiracy theories and such”.
http://willyloman.wordpress.co…..triot-act/
Today in Portsmouth, New Hampshire as I waited for new tires to be installed on my car two of the other people waiting for tires expressed those sentiments. They both thought that Hillary was the instigator! I was shocked.
We all know now how Michelle Malkin spent her afternoon. Deleting hateful comments from her Hilary/bomb scare/hostage thread. Ha, ha.
eCAHNomics @ 33
See, this wouldn’t have happened if he wore his tin-foil hat, like he was supposed to.
Didn’t somebody send him the memo?
Poor guy. He’s probably very disturbed and will end up spending the rest of his days watching Michele Malkin on t.v. while he spends his days in a mental hospital. Somehow I don’t see that helping his condition.