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If it weren't already crystal clear that the right-wing approach to the immigration debate has had the effect of infusing movement conservatism with the toxic sewage of the racist right -- all the way to the highest levels -- last night's GOP presidential debate drove the point home rather vividly.
Rick Perlstein surveyed the damage and acidly observed:
The Republican YouTube debate was an astonishment. Not a single second on the economy, which may well be on the verge of collapse, with the middle class potentially more vulnerable than its been at any point since the 1920s. And yet, as my colleague Bill Scher points out, twenty-three minutes of ranting about the dusky hordes invading our shores. Is a great American political party really going to base its entire presidential appeal on scapegoating the Other?Question answers itself, I guess.
The problem, however, isn't limited to the Republican candidates -- what the debate last night reflected was how thoroughly the discourse has become infected with this sewage. Those candidates wouldn't have been careering off the rails on immigration if they didn't believe that was what their voters wanted to hear.
We can object to this kind of scapegoating on logical grounds, but we should also be really outraged on a moral level as well. It's important to remember, after all, that this rhetoric manifests itself in the real world as a much more visceral and vicious kind of hate -- most especially as hate crimes.
I've been documenting for some time the way the revival of right-wing nativism has provided a significant meeting-ground for far-right racists and mainstream conservatives, empowering the former and driving the latter over a political cliff.
This confluence is manifested in organizations like the Minutemen and their various spinoffs -- which really are nothing more or less than the latest incarnation of the militia movement of the '90s -- as well as the naked immigrant-bashing of mainstream conservative pundits like Patrick Buchanan and Lou Dobbs before national TV audiences. And dare I mention the Ann Coulters, Rush Limbaughs, and Michelle Malkins?
And it rises all the way to the upper crust of the movement, from Newt Gingrich to those presidential candidates, whose ranks were already swelled by such immigrant-bashing stalwarts as Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul. It's all been internalized and normalized for the right.
On the ground, and away from the hustings and TV cameras, all this scapegoating manifests itself -- as it always does -- in much more than mere harsh words. It becomes simple, vicious hate.
Brentin Mock at the SPLC recently compiled a useful list of some of the most vicious anti-Latino hate crimes, the foremost part of the recent surge in hate crimes reported by the FBI. As Mock observes:
There's no doubt that the tone of the raging national debate over immigration is growing uglier by the day. Once limited to hard-core white supremacists and a handful of border-state extremists, vicious public denunciations of undocumented brown-skinned immigrants are increasingly common among supposedly mainstream anti-immigration activists, radio hosts and politicians. While their dehumanizing rhetoric typically stops short of openly sanctioning bloodshed, much of it implicitly encourages or even endorses violence by characterizing immigrants from Mexico and Central America as "invaders," "criminal aliens" and "cockroaches."The results are no less tragic for being predictable: Although hate crime statistics are highly unreliable, numbers that are available strongly suggest a marked upswing in racially motivated violence against all Latinos, regardless of immigration status. According to hate crime statistics published annually by the FBI, anti-Latino hate crimes rose by almost 35% between 2003 and 2006, the latest year for which statistics are available. In California, the state with the largest population of Latinos in the country, anti-Latino hate crimes almost doubled in the same period.
Mock then goes on to give us a useful sampling of these hate crimes and their very flesh-and-blood consequences. Be sure to read the whole thing, but here's a handful:
JAN. 9, 2004
Dateland, Ariz.
Pedro Corzo, a Cuban-born regional manager for Del Monte Fresh Produce, is gunned down by two Missouri residents — 16-year-old Joshua Aston and his 24-year-old cousin Justin Harrison — who traveled with Aston's younger brother, 15-year-old Nicholas Aston, to a remote section of southern Arizona with the specific intent of randomly killing Mexicans. The brothers shaved their heads before embarking on their odyssey. Corzo was ambushed after he stopped at a roadblock the group constructed from boulders. Joshua Aston, the ringleader, is later tried as an adult and receives two life sentences for the murder. Harrison also is sentenced to life. Charges are eventually dropped against the younger Aston brother.DEC. 29, 2004
Redlands, Calif.
Two Latino men and a Latina woman are beaten and kicked in the parking lot of a strip club by a "gang of about 10 skinheads," as later reported by the San Bernardino County Sun. The neo-Nazi skinheads yell racial slurs at their victims, prompting the Redlands police chief to declare that hate crime charges will be pursued if and when the perpetrators are caught.MAY 7, 2005
Maryville, Tenn.
A Mexican grocery store is vandalized by five white men who shatter windows, damage a refrigerator and spray-paint neo-Nazi symbols, causing over $17,000 in damage. Two men — Thomas Lovett and Jacob Reynolds — eventually plead guilty and are each sentenced to six months in prison.
And one was particularly noteworthy, because it illustrates how far the discourse on national TV at least has descended:
FEB. 17, 2005
Fabens, Texas
Osvaldo Aldrete-Dávila, who is unarmed and fleeing apprehension on foot, is shot at 15 times by two U.S. Border Patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean. One bullet strikes Aldrete-Dávila in the buttocks, severs his urethra and lodges in his groin. Though seriously wounded, he manages to escape into Mexico.Though the border patrol officers later find that the van driven by Aldrete-Dávila contained a shipment of marijuana, they are unaware of this fact when they open fire. Ramos and Compean attempt to cover up their actions by cleaning up the spent shell casings and failing to report the use of their firearms to their superiors, as required by Border Patrol regulations. The two agents also fail to report the shooting in their incident reports. El Paso Border Patrol Sector Chief Luis Barker later testifies that Compean told Barker that he and Ramos covered up the shooting because they "knew [they] were going to get in trouble."
After the shooting comes to light a month later, Ramos and Compean are arrested and eventually convicted by a federal jury of felony assault charges, discharging a firearm in a crime of violence, civil rights violations, and obstruction of justice. They're sentenced to 11 and 12 years in prison, respectively.
Ramos and Compean will eventually be transformed by a major right-wing misinformation campaign into high-profile martyrs of the anti-immigration movement. The agents, for their part, will remain unrepentant. Ramos tells a Texas Monthly writer in 2007 that Aldrete-Dávila "got what he deserved."
Indeed, Salon's Alex Koppelman exploded the Ramos-Compean storyline back in September -- but hardly anyone seemed to take note. Even so, as I noted at the time, this kind of afactual, horribly irresponsible reportage, which now surrounds so much of the debate, has made it divisive and toxic instead of healthy and unifying.
Yet as recently as last week, Dobbs was flogging the Ramos-Compean story as somehow legitimate -- never having even acknowledged its thorough debunking. Ah, but those mainstream journalists have so much more credibility and accountability, I am told. Evidently, this innate credibility allows them to flog fraudulent stories without consequence.
I am also looking forward to the next round of blogger ethics panels. Maybe Joe Klein and Lou Dobbs will be together on it.
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The party of hate & racism. That’s the GOP.
David!
read - no zed
SteveAudio @ 2
Their talent is their ability to make racists feel like their hate is something honorable and patriotic, rather than something to be ashamed of and keep hidden.
I watched that Republican thing last night. And the GOP was playing the race card in terms of the immigration issue. That much was clear. And those views will filter down into the populace. When you don’t have solutions, (the Republicans have learned their lessons well), resort to racism. This sort of nastiness still works.
I fear the way this is heading, in the sense of reversability. Once these hates are fanned, it’s very difficult to damp them down. Therefore, even if there’s a D tsunami in 08, and even if there aren’t too many Blue Dogs, it seems unlikely the mood of the country will allow for reasonable immigration legislation.
Hi, Dave!
Nice to see you here.
Alvord, if you’re still here, I wrote you an apology near the end of the last thread.
FunnyDiva
(As opposed to those stupid scoldy no-fun liberals, who are all the time making a fuss every time the white man tries to stick up for himself and his country…)
Terrific post. I feel so strongly about this issue and am always glad when someone shines a light on it. Thanks.
eCAHNomics @ 7
Well, unless the Democrats figure out that Hispanics are a growing constituency, and that they should be trying to appeal to them rather than jumping on the anti-immigrant hatewagon.
Or that, y’know, it’s the decent and moral thing to do. But doing the right thing out of self-interest is probably a better bet (it’s bound to happen eventually, right?).
The other theme in last night’s ridiculously fake debate was the Bible. And if you can frame it right, the Bible can be twisted into supporting racism.
David! Long time no see. I appreciate the real version of the Ramos-Campean story. We lost Air America in San Diego, so I’m listening to the only station I get. KFI, Los Angeles. It’s been so obvious that they haven’t told the whole story…
Eli @ 11
Not if Rahm can help it.
Eli @ 11
Yeah, there’s the Rahm problem. But even if that were to go away, what would happen in Congress if legislation were brought up. The remaining Rs, who will be much more to the right than the current crew, will raise holy hell. Ugly ugly ugly.
Eli @ 11
The other thing is we need to elect someone who can inspire Americans to thinking about a better “way” and smarter future (a la JFK). Read: Not Hillary.
Oh poop on the Republicans!
What pisses me off about this is that Rahmbo is telling the dem candidates to follow suit and veer right on immigration. We know that racism is very much at the root of the repig “revolution” but the dems aren’t supposed to play along with it. We need to hold our people’s feet to the fire to do the right thing.
After all, we were all immigrants at some point in our family tree—all except those who were natively born here, whose ancestors didn’t come over the sea via a boat.
Who are the “Republican base”? For the most part they are white, male and rich. That leaves out most everyone else.
eCAHNomics @ 15
Let. Them.
The madder they get, the more the mask slips. Good for Democratic brand, terrible for Republican brand. Plus it would be nice to see the Democrats start saying, “We have the votes, so fuck you.”
Loo Hoo. @ 13
Stream it over the toobs via iTunes. That’s how I listen.
iirc, before this issue really took this ugly hold, the majority of americans favored some way to legalize the status of those here illegally — payment of fines, highers fees, etc. it’s been remarkable to see how easily manipulated people are and how thoroughly corrupted the media is.
Richmond @ 16
Or even a smarter way and a better future. *g* Still not Hillary.
FunnyD
Richmond @ 16
Do we need to even mention Rabbit Rahm’s crap lately?
Oklahoma kiddo @ 19
Except for the fact they seem to own both parties and the MSM.
eCAHNomics @ 7
I think if the democratic presidential candidate speaks to this Christian Nation about what the right thing to do is, there is hope. Nobody really hates the Mexicans. They are angry that the firms that used to hire Americans are now hiring undocumented folks, but they do not hate the people. This whole conversation needs to be redirected. I know it won’t be easy, it’s so easy for Americans to have a scapegoat-particularly if the economy continues to go in the tank. But the right person needs to frame this in the right way.
Even my diehard republican neighbors like Mexicans!
RevDeb @ 18
If the Republicans want to throw away the Hispanic vote for, well, forever, and make the whole country more like California, why on earth would you want any part of that?
“Look, Hispanic people! We hate you just as much as the Republicans do! Isn’t that great?”
The best case is if it turns out Rahm is seriously out on a limb here and marginalizes himself within the Democratic party, but I’d prefer for that to happen *before* he sabotages a national election.
Oh come on guys. I mean, really, what are your priorities?
What’s more of a threat to this country- a little economic meltdown,
or hoards of brown people who are never going to
contribute to the RNC?
You’re forgetting human nature. The more racism becomes public, the more it spreads, like a virus. This is not a positive development for Ds. It makes progressives’ policies more difficult.
So….I wonder how many of the victims of 9/11 were people of color???? Do these flagwavin’ 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Homelandian racists only care about the victims that were white and Christian - does that translate for them into only, say, for example, 400 white Christian people that they care about who perished??? Did the rest of the victims have no right to be here in Homelandia because they didn’t look like them, and were probably illegal aliens from Mars?? Really, they are that empty headed.
What a bunch of ignorant boneheads.
Funnydiva2002 @ 8
i thought your apology was a class act. wish joe klein would take note.
That thing which works everywhere else does not work in New Mexico. Lew Wallace, first colonial governor said that (more or less) before or after penning Ben Hur.
We are not first of best in much, but we do better than most at diversity.
They should listen to Richardson on the issue.
OT (Very). I don’t know if it was mentioned earlier, but Eric Schlosser has a killer op ed in the NYT today about tomato harvesters getting screwed by Burger King (see also http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...../132624/89).
What to me is most disgusting in this sorry mess is the role of both Goldman-Sachs and Mitt Romney (Bain Investment) in depriving the harvesters of their rightful earnings. In addition to boycotting Burger King, their out to be sign holders (picketers) outside G-S and Bain head quarters. Also, Romney needs to be asked about this by MSM.
eCAHNomics @ 29
It didn’t work out so well for Senator Allen. Excuse me, Ex-Senator Allen.
allan_in_upstate @ 28
the brown islamofascist horde that’s gonna come halfway around the world and fight us here.
FunnyDiva
“hey, shrink! You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant!”
So, what would the Republican equivalent of Krystalnacht look like?
And when the bottom drops out of the mortgage market and economic chaos ensues, will they find some reason to blame it all on “illegal aliens”?
And will President Bush find a reason in all of this to call for more tax cuts?
Warning: contents of this message may contain snark.
Bob in HI
Eureka Springs @ 25
I wasn’t going to put it that way. But the thought has crossed my mind though. ;0)
eCAHNomics @ 29
yep. Those of us who care about the common good as much if not more than in our own self-interest are definitely in the minority. It will take a lot of time and work to undo the “greed is good” mentality that the repigs have infected the country with.
RevDeb @ 18
You beat me to it. Rahm has got to go.
Thanks for this, David.
The Republicans can’t talk about the economy because they’re still talking up the “Bush Boom” — or were up until a couple of weeks ago. But they can scare the crap out of people.
That racism stopped one candidate does not deny my point. Fearmongering can turn people on the margin against immigrants. You remember war fearmongering & how it turned the country into rabid revengers.
Phoenix Woman @ 40
“But if the economy *were* tanking - and we’re not saying that it is - it would *totally* be the Mexicans’ fault.”
Rahm, the DLC, Harold Ford Jr., James Carville, among others, are insidious.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 19
That is the paradox, probably less than 5% are rich. There are a lot of middle, lower middle and poor whites voting against their self interest.
Let’s be careful here.
CNN chose which questions would be asked. During the Democratic debate, CNN forced a young woman to ask “diamonds or pearls?” of Hillary when she really wanted to ask about Yucca Mountain.
Yes, there was a ton of wingnut crap to choose from, so a fair choice of questions would have included a lot of it. But people did ask serious questions; CNN chose not to use those questions.
What we need is to take the professionals out of the picture altogether: the public can submit the questions, and then vote up the questions that they most want to see asked.
RevDeb @ 18
one thing (among many) that really bothers me about this, is how the economic policies of the dems during clinton’s presidency has contributed to the problem - from fucked up trade policies that increase immigration pressure to off shoring jobs that create economic insecurity here. if the dems would be the party of the working class instead of just throwing the occassional bone - the economic pressures that make us ripe for scapegoating (of immigrants or whoever) could be defused.
lecturing people about their racism, i fear, will just add to the resentment.
Joe Buck @ 45
I think we should ask the League of Women Voters to consider putting on a presidential debate.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the next 11 months ramping up a carefully choreographed series of supposed “illegal alien” terror-type incidents…KKKarl has been counting on immigration being “the issue” for 2008, and it has been carefully cultivated over the past few years, it is the only issue that can compete with Iraq other than an Iran attack, but they’ll rationalize that too….they will ramp it up…just watch.
AP - Thousands of Iraqis whose support for the U.S. war effort in Iraq has put them and their families in grave danger at home are being excluded from a new fast-track system aimed at speeding up refugee resettlement in the United States for American allies, officials said Thursday.
selise @ 31
Thank you, Selise.
Temper gets the best of me sometimes, but I’m learning and trying to mitigate the damage when I can. Because I owe that to FDL at the very least. And to myself. And because the personal cost of an apology is so much smaller than the value of keeping this community in the ‘class act’ category.
FunnyD
It’s all in the framing…
“Do you believe the Justice Department should be giving immunity to illegal alien drug smugglers in order to prosecute U.S. Border Patrol agents for breaking administrative regulations? … Yes or no.”
eCAHNomics @ 41
I think it could be turned against them with strong pushback that points out just what it is they’re saying. Unfortunately, the Dems aren’t so hot at strong pushback, and the media isn’t real keen on reporting it when they are.
I still believe we would reap quite a lot of “Oh my God, I can’t believe he actually said that” moments, and the Republicans would go from 40% of the Hispanic vote (2004, IIRC), to 20% (2006), to something like 5%. As the Hispanic population grows.
SteveAudio @ 2
Well, they covered those two topics big time last night at the debate.
Eli @ 42
Not at all - George Soros put them up to it.
After consulting with Kos, of course.
Steve-AR @ 44
we haven’t been giving them enough of a choice lately.
if someone lost their good paying job due to nafta (or even thinks they did)… they may not blame the Rs for that.
On Rahm, he would be (in essence) insignificant if he didn’t have his leadership position. Who would we have to convince on that one, and who would we replace him with? Other than that, we would need to convince someone (a minority person?) to run against him.
Richmond @ 47
i agree. but both parties rejected them in the ’90s (iirc because they would not exclude ross perot from the general election debates)
Steve-AR @ 44
We do that here in Oklahoma a lot. We are considered a ‘poor state’. Just behind Mississippi, another red state. Go figure.
Oklahoma was not always thus. And we do seem to be getting a tiny bit bluer.
Richmond @ 47
Amen!
Bob in HI
Eli @ 42
You’d almost think they were being set up to be the scapegoats.
LS @ 30
Wrong, I think. They care only about the Jews and the Christians.
eCAHNomics @ 29
I’m not sure it doesn’t spread at least as harmfully when it’s underground…also like a virus. But your point is taken: having blatant racism out in public is double-edged. Good thing the reality based community has brains on its side–we’re likeliest to find a way to maximize the benefits and mitigate the pitfalls of having racism show its true, ugly face.
FunnyD
Richmond @ 56
if i understand correctly, leadership positions are affected heavily by fund raising ability. :(
On League of Women Voters and debate: perhaps Moyer could give up one of his PBS shows for an hour debate. The problem with the for-profit Teebee stations is that they all want to showcase their own “news”casters (who of course are biase).
I’m up for another round of YouTube Debates, only this time, the netroots vote on the Ques…! ;-)
Richmond @ 64
i still want amy goodman to moderate
Hiya y’all. Racism is stupid.
selise @ 63
Hmmm. Thinking, thinking, thinking. By the way a terrific piece on ActBlue in the NYT the other day. Clearly we are being taken seriously.
Eli @ 42
And Bill Clinton’s!
One of the questioners was on wnyc this morning. He thought the Qs selected were representative of the topics of interest & that they were quite good. The reporter on the segment thought that the debate sounded just like the R town meetings with R prez candidates that she’d attended. If this is accurate, you can conclude that last night’s debate was completely representative & not biased by CNN selection.
Funnydiva2002 @ 69
And the numbers of hetero-women and gays in the workforce taking away jobs from those truly worthy of them.
Steve-AR @ 44
Economic self interest. Never underestimate the self interest value of self righteousness. The GOP sure as He** doesn’t!
FunnyD
ot - eCAHNomics, i listened to clark today (wnyc podcast) based on your comments. speaking of the mask slipping… the guy is a raving lunatic (where lunatic = warmongering imperialist)
OT-Any of you get a feeling that Leahy’s new Rove-net strategy is a workable one?
Funnydiva2002
Then you weren’t very alert from 1992-200(approx)4, or whenever it was that W raised the issue. Most of the undocumenteds came in during that period and no one scapegoated them when the econmoy was in trouble after the tech bubble burst or after 9/11. Only when the issue became front & center did racism start to rear its head. And even then, it’s taken quite awhile for it to be provoked. California excepted, when it became an overt issue much earlier.
Richmond @ 74
I think he might have gotten a bunch of RNC emails… (per a rumor in a comment yesterday at Thinkprogress via Atrios)…I think he’s got Rove by the cojones on a bunch of stuff….with the news today, I’m even more encouraged…
And, on a good note, I read/heard somewhere that radio shock jock Savage is going down (advertisers have pulled away).
Maybe we can convince non-military companies to pull away from the war-support. There have to be many business people who realize this has been disasterous. Without the pro-war people behind Rahm, he really doesn’t have that much going for him.
SnarKassandra @ 67
You got that right!
Bob in HI
Funnydiva2002 @ 69
this time, i think, there would be some truth to it - see nafta & china trade (*), see banking deregulation, see media consolidation,…
(*) i think trade is great. just not the kind we got with clinton - w/o labor or environmental protections, etc.
LS @ 76
LS- I had to read your comment twice. I thought you meant at first -angry emails from the RNC. But you mean evidence. Terrific.
bobschacht @ 78
and some of us brown americans had family here long before the white people showed up.
selise @ 73
Yessiree. I was amazed. I never heard him slip his mask so completely. But then he’s proud of bombing Kosovo, so I guess we shouldn’t be too surprised. You know, the libertarians have been blaming Clinton for Iraq, on the stream of causality that he thought humanitarian intervention via war was just fine, which set a new meme. I originally dismissed this as just another “Clinton did it too” excuse. But the more I review history, the more truth I see in it. That’s one of the reasons I distrusted Hillary so early.
eCAHNomics @ 70
which gives redstate even less grounds for whinging! (see previous post)
FunnyD
SnarKassandra @ 67
Truer words were never spoken, Cassie, but one thing we do really well in this country is stupid.
selise @ 55
No they blame “free loading” Blacks, Mexicans, Libruls, etc. Since Goldwater the R’s have developed the ability to “push buttons” in the primitive part of people’s brains, (Fear, hate, fear of the “other”, envy etc.) and have people vote against their own and their families interest. It doesn’t respond to logic.
SnarKassandra @ 81
So, you like me and my family need some “perfecting.” (*snark).
Wow, An awesome smackdown of Scottish Haggis’ little pipe dream on FISA…
“Seeking a compromise that would answer both of these concerns, Senator Specter has proposed substituting the government as the defendant in place of the telecom companies in these cases. Senator Specter has the right goals, but substitution won’t accomplish them. Substitution – allowing someone to step into the shoes of a party and inherit that party’s legal position – works well when the substituted party has the same interests as the original party. That’s the case, for instance, when a party dies and his heir is substituted in, or a government official retires and her successor is substituted in. But substitution doesn’t work when the original and substituted parties have conflicting litigation interests and positions. And that’s the case between the telecoms and the Bush Administration.
The major litigation goal of the telecom companies is to avoid costly damages and legal fees; a secondary goal is to uphold their reputations as patriotic and law-abiding corporate citizens. In contrast, the litigation goal of the White House and Justice Department is to avoid the political and legal repercussions of revelations about its surveillance programs. This difference could play out in a couple of ways, were the Government substituted for the telecoms in the lawsuits.”
http://balkin.blogspot.com/200.....uting.html
Richmond @ 74
It is– if they actually vote contempt on *someone*. *anyone.* But until they do, Rove will just laugh and waive it off. Threats are no good unless you are prepared to carry them out.
Bob in HI
eCAHNomics @ 75
Exactly. That is also why Bush took the opposite tack from the rest of the Repubs (i.e., comprehensive immigration, etc.)…so it would not appear to be his position, but it originated with Rove, because he knew all along the Repubs would lap it up like a kitten to milk, and they have, and it’s gonna get worse…Rove knows the base.
Richmond @ 71
Well, nobody can accuse this hetero-woman of taking anyone else’s job right now. Who knew there’d be an upside(?) to getting canned?
FunnyD
bobschacht @ 88
alas. sigh…